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Dec 6, 2011 3:09 PM

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arrrgh nice episode , i should realy go to bed now tho °-° 2 am. yayz ima be sleeping in class again
btw i love it when the Yuji charr comes out and talks so casualy to evryone . I kinda wanna know his plan now tho :'

._. yeah that would be all .

Dec 10, 2011 11:15 AM

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It was nice getting to know a little bit more about Margery and her background story. But, it was kind of disappointing to find out it was just her wanting to do what she felt like. So, is there really no ''Silver'' then? Other than that, there were some pretty intense scenes which I did enjoy. Looking forward to the next!
Apr 19, 2012 9:17 AM
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I don't understand what Yuuji is trying to do. He says he wants to change how the world works, so he can protect everyone he loves. But he goes and does to Margery, really? really Yuuji? Then he kidnaps Shana and says he will protect her when she obviously does not want him to do things this way. Joining with Bal Masque obviously just creates more causalities, so yeah. I don't understand what he's trying to achieve here.
I'm just hoping the series won't end with shana defeating yuuji, then yuuji realising that he's been doing things the wrong way all this time, making the season useless and stupid.
Jun 16, 2012 11:35 AM

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OH man lol i have to take a breath here. This episode was just pure insane. Everything has just been turned around completly. Yuji you son of a bitch. Something has to be controlling him. Maybe not, maybe he chose a tottaly different path. In any case i guess he is the new bad ass of this season.

It is quite obvous that none of the flame haze have any chance in hell of standing up against him. SHana was murdered by that fool. It seems that ALastar does know him as the god of creation from the past. I wonder how he and the reji miago are linked.

Regarding silver, if im not mistaken, its the representation of the hatred that is in our soul that manifests, so in the case of margery, something i guess happened in her past that caused her to loose insanity and so thier for a dark side of her immerged. IN any case this episode was just full of crazy action, some amazing fights.

This is turning out to be a fantastic season.

Deathtoy25 said:
Awesome episode! Blew away my expectations beyond the roof! Great start to a brand new season of shakugan no shana! Im dieing to know the truth behind Yujii's rational xD :D

I know same here, and i hope it doesn't dissapoint, their has to be a reason why he took this change, and i don't believe some other worldly being is possessing him or something, that would just be stupid and cliche. But i do believe that this is the real yuji. His rational reasons behind why he wants to change things, might be for the better good. Maybe he just wants to change the world completely, free of any harm, but then why he want to start a war?

This totally has me babbled beyond comprehension.

bonifide said:
About time we got some action. Yuji is finally a man and shana is annoying as hell. He should had just destroyed them all. I hope Yuji side win but i just doubt it i bet it be like most animes.

Shana gave it her all though, she even used the other types of abilties that she was trying to harness that Margery tought her. So it wasn't like she was useless. She really tried to fight him to his full potentional, i don't think she held anything back, but yuji is just to strong and some how i get the impression that yuji was holding back, just playing with them lol.

I also love how each of these episodes has a vocal piece at the end, very nice music in this season.

Aug 12, 2012 5:56 PM

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This is so great.

Yuji has insanely good powers and has made some sort of contract with a God so that he can ultimately achieve good. And he loves Shana, not that Yoshida bitch.

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Nov 15, 2012 3:08 PM

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this episode blew my mind! holy shit he got stronger badass..though his on the wrong side -.- but w/e at least i get to see some actions, this season is still a bit confusing O_o
Feb 10, 2013 9:04 AM

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That was epic, Yuji in full badass mode.
Mar 19, 2013 5:52 PM

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Yuji that's harsh, to say truth out to Margery like that, i bet Shana knew the truth all ready, it was written all over her face
Jul 27, 2013 8:19 PM

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yuuji is a badass now and why does his voice keep changing hahahaha watching ep 5 now
Sep 27, 2013 3:25 PM

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Yuji is full of shit. He changed so Shana didn't have to fight then he fights her. He came off as extremely controlling and selfish in this episode.
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Sep 28, 2013 8:59 PM

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These past episodes have really been great. If it continues on like this I might even give it an 8.
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Oct 16, 2013 9:06 PM

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Chloe-tsundere said:
and finally it starts to get interesting and I wish to see more ... going from a poor 5 to a 7-8 :) might turn in an 8 or 9 depends :P

I stopped binge-watching for a little bit after the first episode of this season... was reluctant to get back into it, so glad I did! this episode was awesome
Dec 6, 2013 2:47 AM
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As expected there was no chance of things being settled peacefully. Although I'm surprised that the Flame Hazes were the ones who attacked first.I expected Yuji to make the first move.

Still, Yuji seems to have changed his attitude a lot, taunting Margery like that. I was laughing at Shana trying to slice Yuji up while he was just dancing around and story-telling to Margery. Talk about OP :P
Jan 10, 2014 10:08 AM

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If Yuji was truly evil he could have EASILY killed Shana, Wilhelmina and Margery right here.
Feb 10, 2014 4:50 AM

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^ True that.
And it seems I was right, this story is indeed sad. But happy in a way that Shana was able to meet Yuji again.
Apr 4, 2014 9:39 PM

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Holy shit fuck cow titty balls... I wasn't ready for this xD

Yuuji... What have you become? You are so... pragmatic. He was ready to destroy a friend mental health so he would gain a bit more time :/
That's so wrong. He really look either lawful evil or chaotic good, I'm not sure. He even used his own house as a shield so Shana would hesitate to attack, that's some jackass strategy.

He totally defeated three Flame Hazes without putting an ounce of energy. He looked like he was chilling over, not giving a fuck. All their attack looked like he was fighting toddlers. Margery talked about a God, Shana about the Creator. So who is that Snake of Festival? More importantly, how did he ended up meeting Yuuji on the christmas eve? Was he also trapped in the Reiji Maigo? How many fucking people is there in the Reiji Maigo?! xD
But damn, the Snake of Festival and Yuuji look all buddy-buddy.

So I was mistaken all along. From what Yuuji said (if it's the truth), the ''Silver denizen'' was in fact only representation of strong emotion materialised by the Snake of Festival himself... Fuck, Margery reaction was so crazy, it really hit hard. I always thought that the Silver knight was the ultimate Tomogara and somehow, ended up defeated but not dead.

Also, that wasn't the most romantic declaration I've heard, Yuuji :P
Damn, telling her all those sweet words while fucking with all your past friend, how did you think Shana was gonna take it? xD
''Will you come with me Shana? I want to walk along your sides...'', while hearing in the background scream of despair from Margery and Wilhermina o.O

Anyway, I don't think Shana will be captive for so long. It really look like a love/hate relationship have been created in this sole episode. Shana still have strong feeling for Yuuji, but she can't forgive him that he have passed on the other side.
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May 5, 2014 1:42 PM

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Yuji has finally become a badass, fitting for our protagonist.
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Jun 13, 2014 8:28 AM

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I dont know how to feel about yuji now? But it movitates me to show more
Oct 10, 2014 2:39 AM

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Tons of action already! And it's only the 4th ep. I have lots to look forward to.
Jul 28, 2015 2:57 PM

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It may sound strange, but I am forcing myself to watch every single episode. Just can't handle Yuji's new sudden change at all. Forgive me, but it even reminds me of Tokyo Ghoul series. However, I don't like TG as much as SnS, so this wicked plot twist here feels like a backstab and it's just killing me. Things seem to be so wrong. =/

I dont' know how it'll end yet, but I definetly don't want to see one final-episode explanation, which will try to justify all that regress (as I see it) in character development. Yeah, I understand, maybe it's not a regress. All in all, the third season looks and sounds great, offering us solid storyline with minor exceptions, which is my point of view on the quality itself...
But, what I really wanted, is not a complete destruction of all that subtle important moments in the relationship between characters, which were slowly growing and overcoming different obstacles throughout entire series, bringing understanding of each other's feelings, but more of them. And the first two seasons were really good at this.
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Feb 12, 2016 10:23 AM

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So, in my opinion the truth behind Yuuji's new self is:

1) while merging with him, The Snake of Festival corrupted/convinced Sakai-kun that Flame hazes (and Tomogara?) have to be erased.


2) while merging with him, The Snake of Festival altered Sakai-kun's mind and Yuuji not aware of this change.

I'm still curious why, in case of being convinced, Yuuji is OK with destroying all Flame Hazes 'cause some of them were his friends in seasons 1 and 2.

Lastly, dat scream really made me turn my head away for a moment for the first time in this series o.o .
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Mar 7, 2017 1:51 PM

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This is rather confusing, but damn did I atleast find this episode enjoyable compared to the previous ones. Yuuji was the God of Destruction all along? Margery was behind the Silver incident? So many questions!
Jun 13, 2017 2:30 PM

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Have to say I'm a big fan of the change of Yuji. I already liked him before, but his determination now is remarkable. Great episode.
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Nov 18, 2018 2:36 PM

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I dunno, he is so arrogant and acts as he owns the sole truth for the solution of the situation they are in, it's almost impossible to see him as anything else than an antagonist, yet Shana was able to believe him even after what he mercilessly did to Margery. I really don't like the fact that they want to show him in the good light even though he acts as villain from the start.

Also, still no explanation as to how he contracted with Sairei no Hebi and how he even knew he can do that... Don't tell me he was inside him from the start (or rather that Sakai was him from the start) and that noone noticed.

I know his goal is to destroy all the tomogara, flaming hazes included but the big problem here is how everything this hampers relations everyone had towards him, because he is basically the same experiment Hecate did with Fumina.

tl;dr: he was reborn and is no longer Yuuji anymore, only shares some of his memories so I'm furious to see others are still hesitant to fight him for real and believing him even when it has to be obvious to them he's doing all that just for his gains.
Jun 20, 12:02 PM

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what alistar said about seling the snake away was true but he was not arogant the others were just religious fools stuck to their religion/beliefs, if they wouln't imprisoned him then the problem would have been solved long ago, hes way would have removed to feed on ppl but new hes returned to finish hes plan with a slight change differance

thats why hes not trying to talk to shana and others about it, he knows it makes no differance and ends like before him saled again if he reveals hes plan

Modified by Sugram22, Jun 20, 12:07 PM
Jun 20, 12:10 PM

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Raratah said:
I don't know what I should say about this. I really don't like the new Yuji, and I think he is stupid for giving up his existence to change the world. I don't really know if I like where this is going. 3/5

i hope u didn't drop it cause ending was nice
Jun 20, 8:14 PM

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Sugram22 said:
Raratah said:
I don't know what I should say about this. I really don't like the new Yuji, and I think he is stupid for giving up his existence to change the world. I don't really know if I like where this is going. 3/5

i hope u didn't drop it cause ending was nice

I finished it. I was way to invested in this series to not. I just didn’t enjoy how different the last arc was compared to the rest of the series. It was an adjustment, and by the time I was getting used to it, it was over.
Aug 27, 4:24 PM

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I really liked the black aesthetic this episode. It was very nice!
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