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| well what her friend said was kind of right but at the same time, it's just outright wrong. nana never made any 'major' mistakes in her relationship. past mistakes with other guys, yeah, but that has nothing to do with the current one. and if shouji can't understand that nana is a bit busy getting her life together, then he's undeserving anyway. |
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| Wow. This episode deserves a 5!!! I hate Shouji so much and I've never hated a character so strongly. Nana should have punched both that girl and Shouji, they both would've deserved it. On another topic... does anyone think that Nana will die? Punk Nana not Hachi. It just seems like Hachi is narrating about someone who can no longer hear her. I really hope I'm not right because I can't stand tragedies. |
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| Phew, this was definitely an anime arc to remember (so glad there's so much more to watch). The execution was great and there were lots of moments to remember, fun and sad. I can respect the many different opinions people have, because we all have different experiences in life. Some more-so, and some none. (So many scary girls here lol) *Cough*. I can say that Shouji and Sachiko will be lucky to last longer than Souji/Nana, and I wonder if Souji truly even likes her; he may just simply be attracted to her for the time-being, and because them studying/working in the same environment is convenient. In fact, I don't think Souji can commit himself to anyone the way he is now without "convenience" playing a role. The 15 year bassist with the piercings, at least he's honest in his playing around. Perhaps Souji doesn't get himself either, and honestly I will like this portrayal of him... if he can redeem himself someday. At this stage, I would at least want him to treat Sachiko well now. I guess it all depends on their "real natures'" compatibility i nthe long run, and if the lingering feelings involving Hachi play/don't play a role sometime. I really like the relationship between the Nana duo and I'm liking Osaki more and more by the episode. Hachi I'm growing fond of as well. Overall the show has a few vibes. The emotions range from laughter to tears and it can be all over the place in a graceful way. The variety of characters is nice too. Now, although it's clear Hachi Nana is only barely in stage 1 of recovery, the story seems like it will direct it's focus on to Ren/Osaki for the time being, and I've been interested in them since the first revelation. Front row seats? Let's go. I'll probably formally see you all here at the end of the next arc (if that's how the show's format is). Ren! |
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meneope said: Well there's no easy way to wriggle out of it if you are friend with both parties! Actually, thats quite easy. If you are close with both and you find out that one of them is cheating you tell them that it is an assholemove and he should choose because the situation puts a strain on the friendship for everyone. At the same time you assure them that you will support either decision. When the shit hits the fan before you can lay these "rules" out, you support the victim, tell the cheater that he is an idiot but still stay his friend. In the end its their relationship and you are just a friend. |
| Poor Nana I do hope to not see Shouji anymore... Well the ending was quite interesting perhaps now we'll see some more development on the side of the other nana? |
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| I love how Ren got incorporated into the anime again! :) I really hope Nana accepts Hachi's offer, so that he can maybe notice her! Fucking Shoji! And Sachiko should have backed off! Junko didn't really help with Hachi's pain either... Really memorable episode! |
| 1. Shouji chasing after & hugging sachiko RIGHT in front of hachi… how messed up. 2. one can never trust nice guys. 9/10 |
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| Wow Junko what a great friend you are. How can she blame Hachi on this? Sure things weren't all smooth sailing between Hachi and Shouji but basically she just said Shouji cheating on Hachi is justified. Huh?! And she had the nerve to go "I don't know why you're playing the victim. Stop saying he was cheating." Wow just wow. She knew all along that he was cheating but she covered for him instead. Worst kind of friend. Hachi, all you need is Nana. |
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| A warning... If you guys ever read this... I'm about to get really "messy" with my comment... Now I know what Game of Thrones fans who never read the books felt when they saw the Red Wedding. NO MORE DAMN IT! NO MORE! I NEED TO WATCH A LOT OF MOE COMEDIES FOR A FEW WEEKS UNTIL I REGROW MY HEART BACK! ALL OF YOU MAY BE CRYING BUT I WAS FUMING WITH ANGER! MY RAGE WAS PREVENTING MY TEARS FROM FALLING OUT! OH MY GOD! CONCLUSION: |
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| "I played the game called "Real Life" once, the Graphics were amazing but, the Story sucks. PVP was not allowed. The Physics Engine was very shitty. I wasn't fond of the Characters too. The Soundtrack was great until the 90's update. Respawn time sucked as well. " |
| Feel sorry for Nana, but at least she got rid of him... n___n Hope to see Ren in the next episode again, but for real ^-^ |
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| dunno why everyone's saying Junko took Shouji's side; she explicitly said she wasn't. What she said is... well, it takes two to tango. Jun was basically saying they both fucked up, and they did. The anime made a huge point of showing how self-centered Nana is, but I'm guessing y'all forgot about that because you're blinded by Shouji-rage. Jun was being a good friend; she was trying to help Nana by showing her how she messed up too. She just chose the wrong time to do it... hate to say it but it would be lulz if Shouji turned goof Nana into a lesbian and goof Nana and goth Nana hooked up WHICH REMINDS ME NANA NEVER TOLD SHOUJI THAT GOTH NANA MADE OUT WITH HER |
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| Oh lol this thread. Glad the arc is over,looking forward to what's next. |
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| Glad that Nana never has to deal with that bastard again Junko kind of pissed me off this episode though |
| I just love how this show sets up one thing after another, It's gonna be really interesting to see where the next episodes will lead these characters. |
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| This anime sure knows how to startle us! Just give us Ren already! |
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| Shoji's cheating is simply the final nail in the coffin. Yes, it is morally wrong and unforgivable to many but this just highlights how weak and unstable the relationship Hachi and Shoji bore. I don't care much for him anyways since he's just a side character but if only he would break off first. Ah but then we wouldn't have a drama. Y'know watching the same show, at no point did I see Jun defended the cheating of Shoji. She merely stated a fact that the relationship failed due to both parties. I like her telling it as it is. Might be too insensitive for many but don't forget that she's been with Hachi for so long. Guaranteed not the first time she witnessed this kind of situation, considering how many exs Hachi had. I bet she knows whats best to do and to say. Just my input. So far 14 episodes in, I like what I'm watching esp the comedic moments. Hopefully our dear Hachi learns from this experience and wisen up to be a stronger person. Still 33 episodes to go after all. |
| this episode felt so magical |
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| "Fight to get him back"?! Stupid! This has obviously no future. |
| Haha white Nana trying to act like a mother was so hilarious :D but how is that Shin able to be with older rich women when he is underage? -"It's you who got nothing to do with it." - "She's right" LOL! :D "It's only you Jun-chan" ;D |
| (づ￣ ³￣)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´｡✪ω✪｡｀) I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;) |
| Jesus, Junko is one shit friend... How is it in anyway Nanas fault that Shouji the piece of trash decided to cheat?? What the hell is that kind of reasoning - nana wasn't putting enough effort into the relationship thus this meant it was ok for to him to cheat??? Wow she srsly is surrounded by shitty people she calls friends. At least she has Nana sigh, who I am actually glad didn't hit the other chick and Trashheadshouji. If Nana did, it would probably make that chick and that disgusting man feel better for going behind Nanas back. |
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| Hope we never see Shoji again, The way Nana cares about Hachiko wow she is so cool :) |
| That actually made me tear up when Hachi-Nana found out he cheated right in front of her eyes. Yes, I hate Shoji for what he did but if you guys recall Nana basically did something similar with Asano at the beginning. Luckily they stopped before anything bad could happen. Sorta calmed from last episode. |
| Poor Nana. But yeah good things do come around, though she doesn't know how other Nana feels about what those tickets represent just yet! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| This was an uncomfortable episode to get through. It's very good drama, though. But Nana Komatsu is selfish and likes to play the victim. Junko is right about that part. And that bass player used to be a nice clean cut kid. Now he's turning into a punk rocker and heading toward a life of ill repute, so it seems. How can people like all those piercings? There's a long road ahead. Looks like it's going to be a bumpy ride. But this series has been growing increasingly interesting. |
| It's officially over, I won't cover up for Shoji, but Nani is also partly at fault here. Hachikos dream could be seen as foreshadowing that it possibly will get beef between her and Nana in the future. Dat moment Nana ran out of the toilet xD |
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| I would like to see Nana Osaki punching Shouji's sorry face. Shouji doesn't care at all about Nana and Junko did warn him that he'll break both Nana and Sachiko's hearts if he doesn't do anything and what did he do? Ignoring and move forward! And the funny part is that he choose Sachiko instead of Nana. Now what? Game over!! I really hope Nana will open her eyes and see that Souji is a no good boyfriend. |
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| You know what? I don't fully agree with Jun. She might be Shoji's friend too but she acted like a bitch towards Nana. I feel like Hachi's purpose when she came to Tokyo was to live with Shoji and she realised she can't just yet , so she started working and making her way up so she won't be a burden for him. She really had good intentions and she hoped that their relationship would get better. Yeah sometimes she played the victim but not that intense how Jun made it sound like. I wonder how Hachi would react if she'd find out Jun knew about the affair. Such a friend... Dark Nana is way nicer to her. And also that concert coming up I can'ttt. Right now all I can hope for is that she'll get through this without dragging Nana into this mess. Cause obviously we have this other storyline with Nana and Ren that will probably develop more as we go. (And I really, really hoped that Nana would've smashed Shoji's face.) |
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| Nana is so cool I wish she were real person :( Now Shoji is out of the way, thank god Never liked him from the start anyway :P "It's hard on Shoji" Sureeeee :P That's why he already got another girlfriend, right? Both are at fault, but still he should break up first before sleeping with another woman I'm glad Nana get over with it pretty fast, she already can joke around Looks like it's Nana's turn after Nana's (Hachiko) storm have passed |
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| Shoji is fucking scum |
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| Shoji you idiot, that was the worst way to break up, if it weren't for other Nana being there I'm sure Nana would have ended her life I appreciate Junko's honesty there, few valid points for reflection (Nana selfishness) there but I don't think those points had anything to do with Shoji cheating on Nana, I really expected more words of comfort to her pain but she basically blamed it on Nana there siding with Shoji. Even worse is the fact that she knew about it and didn't tell her 'best' friend. I think the worst thing out of all this is the fact that Shoji didn't had the balls to at least apologize to Nana |
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| First of all, what Shouji did was loathsome, but I don't condone punching or inflicting any violence on him or any other person for something which is a non-violent offense in the first place. I can understand the sentiment and anger, but since there are many folks in this thread clamoring for that result, I just thought I'd put it out there. That said, to me, the false equivalence between Shouji and Komatsu Nana's actions is sheer horseshit. His actions and Jun's partial defense of them were 100% in the wrong without exception and really beyond contempt. What Jun said is just flat out untrue. Nana isn't to blame for even 0.000000001% of it. If he was unhappy with their relationship for any reason caused by her, caused by himself, or by a mixture of the two (diverging priorities, goals, interests, and personalities), then he has every right to end the relationship. At that point, you could evaluate the actions of both concerned parties and if Nana was unhappy with the breakup, someone could logically say "Yes, but here was your role and responsibility in it, etc.". But he didn't break up with her. He cheated on her in the fullest possible sense of the term. I don't care if she had previously smashed his computer and spit in his face. Break up with her first. You don't even need a better reason then "I like this other girl better", "You're annoying", "I'm bored" or just no reason at all; you don't even need to give any reason whatsoever and it's fully within your prerogative. So saying anything Komatsu Nana did or didn't do in the relationship prior is a cause of the cheating is an utter bullshit and really a poisonous sentiment. Nothing "causes" cheating except the person participating in it choosing to do so and actively and consciously choosing to flagrantly disregard any minute semblance of respect for the person they're concealing it from. If they had any cause to dislike any aspect about the person they were seeing enough and want to sever the relationship for any reason then they could pursue whatever they wanted sexually with another person 30 seconds after. Breaking up for any reason or no reason at all by either party doesn't even need to be justified, whereas cheating can never be justified regardless of whichever spin you put on it. I also don't know why it seemed like prior to this episode Shouji was built up, at least by his friends and those who knew him, as such a saint and great guy taking on the weight of the world and so diligent in dealing with Nana who was like a cross to bear or albatross around his neck. What was he doing prior that was so generous or heroic? And as much as characters in-universe and some fans alike like to talk about Komatsu Nana "playing the victim" of this put upon martyr, if anything that fits a person like Shouji much more to a tee. Even before the cheating I really disliked his holier than thou attitude, even when it was unspoken. He had this very arrogant "I'm suffering in silence" vibe from day one. |
WatchTillTandavaMay 29, 2020 6:05 PM
| Shoji=Bad Sachikko=Good This thing shoji did to nana affected her very much but I think nana isn't sad she is just heart broken bcoz he cheated on her but nana had mixed feelings she was also happy that she got out of the relationship which was very hard to keep from the beggining. Well but in the future so nana was the one who is incompetent in keeping relationships. |
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| Its not anyones fault or anything, they just dont fit eachother. Proof is the fact that it worked better for them when they were distance away. Still, the guy is a scum for cheating should have just broke up right away if he already finds someone else. Happens in real life this kind of thing. |
| these past few episodes have reminded me just how much sachiko fucking pisses me off - her and her 'i'm just this good little girl' attitude whilst she blatantly manipulates shouji. not that he or jun were particularly good this ep either. |
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