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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I had a feeling this episode would end the way it did. I never felt Chloe was intended to be the true Noir. In the painting of Noir, the two maidens are seen as one with long hair facing the other maiden, who has short hair. This made me feel like it was Kirika and Mireille who were really supposed to be Noir. I also knew Chloe had feelings for Kirika all along. It really explains a lot about that kiss :) along with her constant jealousy and animosity towards Mireille. |
barelyaliveSep 25, 2011 8:22 PM
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barelyalive said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I had a feeling this episode would end the way it did. I never felt Chloe was intended to be the true Noir. In the painting of Noir, the two maidens are seen as one with long hair facing the other maiden, who has short hair. This made me feel like it was Kirika and Mireille who were really supposed to be Noir. I also knew Chloe had feelings for Kirika all along. It really explains a lot about that kiss :) along with her constant jealousy and animosity towards Mireille. You are mistaken on three counts. 1. The history of Noir dates back to the medival times, I seriously doubt the selection is for "one with long hair and one short". That is like saying Kirka's hair is not brown like in the portrait. 2. The kiss was part of the ritual. I thought that was overdone; not to mention that pond was absolutely disgusting. I cannot believe they went in nude in that pond, they could catch so many diseases. 3. Restating what I just said, Chloe and Kirka were the true Noir. It is just that Kirka remembered the words of Mireille's mother. Finally I find it odd that Kirka and Chloe looks younger than Mireille. The lightening speed of Kirka is rather unrealistic. |
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Confucius said: barelyalive said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I had a feeling this episode would end the way it did. I never felt Chloe was intended to be the true Noir. In the painting of Noir, the two maidens are seen as one with long hair facing the other maiden, who has short hair. This made me feel like it was Kirika and Mireille who were really supposed to be Noir. I also knew Chloe had feelings for Kirika all along. It really explains a lot about that kiss :) along with her constant jealousy and animosity towards Mireille. You are mistaken on three counts. 1. The history of Noir dates back to the medival times, I seriously doubt the selection is for "one with long hair and one short". That is like saying Kirka's hair is not brown like in the portrait. 2. The kiss was part of the ritual. I thought that was overdone; not to mention that pond was absolutely disgusting. I cannot believe they went in nude in that pond, they could catch so many diseases. 3. Restating what I just said, Chloe and Kirka were the true Noir. It is just that Kirka remembered the words of Mireille's mother. Finally I find it odd that Kirka and Chloe looks younger than Mireille. The lightening speed of Kirka is rather unrealistic. I disagree about the pond part, I think it was an scene made in great taste - the whole episode is full of symbolism. Do you really think people in the 10th century have bathrooms or saunas like we have today? Other than that, you kinda nailed it. On to the final ep then... |
| And I liked Chloe being part of this. So what is next I guess I'll find out. |
| They couldn't help but throw in that yuri fanservice, could they? Ah well, lol, its not like I didn't like it. I'm glad Cloe died. She pissed me off with her fucking little smirks. I have a feeling everybody's going to wind up dead next episode. |
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| Noo why did Chloe die... i liked her a lot. |
Bittersweet end for Chloe. |
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| Is...is it okay to breathe now? That duel between Mireille and Kirika was awesome, I really appreciate how they've been able to keep up a ripe amount of action nearly every episode. Chloe's demise weighed heavily on me, I mean she was born and raised on insanity and the revival of Noir with Kirika was everything to her. It's as Kirika said, her and Chloe completed each other. But even so, I've found Mireille and Kirika's sisterhood to be far stronger and what Mireille's mother said speaks volumes about how it was indeed those two bound together by the thread of fate. Also just going to have to shake my head at the people who seriously believed that this was fan-service/pandering. Tsk tsk, sad world we live in when everything must be sexualized to cope with misunderstandings. |
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| Wow what an episode! Chloe is amazing assassin, but i knew Kirika would kill her. Tbh i thought they were going to show a twist at the flashback. Kirika didn't killed Mireille's mother, but Chloe instead. Don't really mind the Yuri ritual. Feels like it's something they would do in the medieval days. Also it's a shame once again they didn't show how Mireille was stab in the leg by Chloe, yet we see Kirika's fork having Chloe's blood on it. Should have blood in the first place. Altena is not gonna be happy about this. Can't wait for the final episode :) |
| Damn, Chloe is like the crazy ex she was a cool character RIP |
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Red_Keys said: They couldn't help but throw in that yuri fanservice, could they? Ah well, lol, its not like I didn't like it. I'm glad Cloe died. She pissed me off with her fucking little smirks. I have a feeling everybody's going to wind up dead next episode. Yepp, she got the end I wanted for her. I found it even okay it wasnt as brutal as I immagined. |
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| By far the best episode in terms of both action and emotional impact. Chloe releasing her repressed feelings towards Mireille only to be killed by Kirika with the fork that she treasured so much is quite tragic closure. I've felt neutral towards Chloe for the whole show but after this episode I'd say she's an awesome character. |
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| This was a really good episode. All of Chloe's jealousy and frustration comes out with Mireille's appearance. All that time those 2 spent together and the bond they formed was insurmountable for her. I think next episode is going to be a tearjerker too. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Even after my third time watching Noir watching Chloe die still makes me emotional, and very few anime or any media have that effect on me. Bee Train did an outstanding job on every aspect of this anime, from the art to the soundtrack to the character development. |
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