Kurenai no Buta Episode 1 Discussion
Aug 12, 2015 2:38 PM
Aug 29, 2015 1:21 PM
Sep 19, 2015 10:11 PM
Oct 5, 2015 2:13 AM
Apr 4, 2016 7:50 PM
Apr 27, 2016 3:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
I've just finished watching this beautiful movie and i have to admit that i regret not watching it sooner. Definitely one of my favorites from Ghibli Studio! (the least favorite is still Kiki's Delivery Service which i simply find boring).
Porco Rosso is funny, romantic and insightful. I really like the fact that it's aiming at an adult audience.
Things i noticed:
Porto became a "pig" for being the lone survivor of that fateful unplanned attack during the war. When he was up there, above the clouds, watching BOTH his friends and the enemy disappear into that star-like tail, i really think that the idea was to show that in death everyone is alike. There are no "enemies" or "friends", we are all equal human beings.
He thought they were going to heaven because in the movie he says to Fio: "It might have been hell for all i know". But what he saw was dead seaplane pilots going to heaven regardless of their previous deeds or lives or which side they were on. Just like Marco himself and those he now associates himself with. I think it made Marco realize that a pilot is a pilot regardless of the political differences. This is a reason to why there is an honorary code between him and the pirates. And also one of the main reasons Porco is "not a killer" as the Boss pirate put it.
When Gina came to warn them about the Air Force being on their way, after Marco told her to take care of the girl, she shames him and he says sorry. While Fio is kicking him in the face, notice the frame of his sunglasses with the broken glass - it's in a shape of a heart. So he is looking at Gina with love in his eyes. I'm thinking Marco and Gina have had feelings for each other for a very very long time! Ever since they were kids - hence Gina reminiscing on the good old days which included only two of them. Also Gina basically says several times during the film that she made the wrong choice previously and ended up 3 times a widow. She also says that she loves someone already ("Marco, you've always been here for me") but that he does everything to avoid facing her and their mutual feelings - that's why she is waiting for him in her garden without any luck. My guess is that it's because he cannot be a pig and marry his dead best friend's wife (pun intended).
Also Fio has got a crash on him and that's the reason he cannot return. Fio is off-limits because of Gina - feelings for Gina are in the way, plus he couldn't hurt Gina by being together with Fio. But Gina is off-limits too as she is his dead best friend's wife/widow and he has to take Fio's feelings into consideration. So he keeps his distance from both of them.
The only bummer is that we dont get to see his face at the end of the movie and are left guessing: was the face Donald saw permanent or was it temporary like the one Fio saw?
All in all wonderful, typical Miyazaki movie with several layers of hidden hints and context, tributes and spoofs! I just don't like it when i have to fill in the blanks myself :-P
Modified by Lady0905, Mar 22, 2017 4:01 PM
Jul 16, 2016 10:55 PM
Nov 3, 2016 5:40 AM
Dec 7, 2016 8:14 AM
Dec 27, 2016 8:40 PM
Feb 22, 2017 10:28 AM
Mar 28, 2017 10:14 AM
May 21, 2017 7:01 PM
May 23, 2017 1:51 AM
Aug 4, 2017 3:30 AM
Sep 19, 2017 10:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Surprisingly fun, why didn't I see this earlier? Fortunately it's one of Miyazaki's mature films w/o dark drama. Was all adults in the theatre even tho it's English dub which was pretty good except a few scenes.
Pleasant Italian/French music from Gina. Funniest Ghibli I've seen, with snarky pov on Italians & Americans. It noticeably treads politics & feminism w/o being too hamfisted, carried by great memish dialogue. Weird I heard these classic quotes well before watching the film.
They did repeat Fio's "cute" too much, perhaps would feel normal in sub. I like how all the mcs & rivals have their own motivation, backstories, view on honor, nationalism etc. Tho Fio's design's like most Ghibli girl mcs, but she has this proactive engineering heart that blows Wind Rises out of its blandness, and her interactions with Porco was really fascinating.
Sep 23, 2017 3:58 PM
Nov 4, 2017 4:32 PM
Nov 26, 2017 10:04 AM
Dec 1, 2017 10:37 PM
Jan 7, 2018 8:21 AM
Feb 5, 2018 5:59 PM
Feb 7, 2018 7:49 PM
Feb 10, 2018 3:31 AM
Apr 2, 2018 1:28 PM
Apr 2, 2018 3:31 PM
Apr 29, 2018 9:35 AM
May 21, 2018 11:40 PM
Aug 14, 2018 1:50 AM
Sep 27, 2018 2:04 PM
Jan 4, 2019 7:45 AM
Mar 7, 2019 7:00 AM
Jun 20, 2019 6:40 PM
Aug 4, 2019 2:03 PM
Mar 11, 2020 1:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2015
what an underrated movie! i never realized this movie is so wholesome until i watched it as a dude in his late 20s.
this movie is so frickin awesome! a romantic saga of a pig gentleman lol
Mr. Miyazaki was definitely having fun while making this movie. we all know he has insights on the airplane industry and i know for sure that he loves Saint-Exupery & his masterpiece, The Little Prince.
the beginning is so awesome! cute little girls everywhere. so cute i could die!
this is definitely the funniest Ghibli movie. it's a cultural heritage.
i mean, as far as i knew of, this is the one and only comedy movie from Ghibli Miyazaki.
there's also Totoro but it's a kids movie.
ah, the childish grannies! how i miss & love those Ghibli characters.
the seas! the skies! the Rivieras! the ships! the planes! the French songs! the brotherhood!
the contrast of Porco's & Curtis' characters.
the self-loathing ladies man filled with regrets vs the bravado playboy-type filled with ambitions.
the contrast of Gina's & Fio's characters.
the old-fashioned lady of culture vs the straight-forward intelligent girl of action.
and what a nice conclusion! what joy for humanity!
no blacks, no whites. no judgments. all humans are equally worthy & fascinating in their own way.
the critical message towards America's meddlesome tendency towards other countries turmoil.
i believe that Gina is the right person for Porco but Fio made him complete.
Fio was his trigger to triumph over his self-loathing & cowardly love period towards Gina.
i believe Gina won the bet.
but, a bittersweet ending like Saint-Exupery's fate is also nice.
missing in action with his plane in the skies & seas that he's so familiar with. sounds tragic and yet so romantic.
pigs can fly indeed!
Modified by finestseeker17, Mar 13, 2020 2:21 AM
Mar 13, 2020 9:57 PM
Apr 6, 2020 2:23 PM
Apr 9, 2020 4:52 PM
May 13, 2020 9:43 AM
May 26, 2020 2:32 AM
Jun 5, 2020 2:23 AM
Jul 4, 2020 10:20 AM
Aug 21, 2020 6:38 AM
Sep 9, 2020 1:42 PM
Oct 26, 2020 2:18 AM
Dec 31, 2020 4:09 AM
Mar 14, 1:00 PM
May 31, 9:31 AM