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Sep 8, 2011 10:47 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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So in the end Fersen runs away. Again. Probably the best choice though. I'm really sure well see him again in the future though.

But with Fersen gone for now I guess another arc of royal intrigues will start now. Jeanne was someone who we didn't see for a while. Also Polignac, we never saw what became of her after the suicide of her Daughter. Generally this shows often tends to ignore characters after a big revelation.

Anyway I'm looking forward to what will happen next, with Fersen gone again.
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Sep 3, 2012 6:40 AM

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That was such an emotional episode. Ah, poor everyone...

I love how subtly Oscar's feelings and heartbreak were portrayed.
 
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Oct 7, 2012 5:35 AM

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Athena said:
I love how subtly Oscar's feelings and heartbreak were portrayed.


I agree. I also think they did a good job handling André's concern for Oscar in the episode.

Marie looked a lot less childish in this episode and a lot more mature - solely because of the drawing style, but hopefully she wizens up a bit after this heartbreak and becomes a better ruler. Honestly, I didn't expect Fersen to run away as he did, but I'm glad he's gone so that other stuff can happen, heh.
 
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Dec 13, 2012 4:52 PM

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This was such a well directed episode. They clearly put a great deal more time and effort into the visuals and into the music implementation for this episode (perhaps because this was a conclusion episode of sorts?). But considering how I always hear people say that the first half of this show is much weaker than the second, I have to conclude that this episode serves as the turning point into the really good material. I think I'm gonna be in for a real treat.
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Feb 15, 2013 4:12 AM

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Good bye Fersen. T^T

Please don't die in America although if he does survive he will most likely live out the rest of his days there.
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Jun 15, 2013 9:07 PM

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Goodbye Fresen.
I like this episode portrayed oscar's heartbreak.
 
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Oct 18, 2013 1:17 AM

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Okay it seems I was totally oblivious to Oscar being in love with Fersen also. Him leaving like this was really the only choice he could make in order to save face for all of them.

Well that is the halfway point, time for the second act.
 
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Apr 5, 2014 9:57 AM

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Marie looks a lot older -- I like it
What happened to Polignac?
Oscar cried -- twice!! I never realized she loved Fersen, I just assumed she was envious of their relationship and wanted to be loved like that
wtf fersen leaves again? What about the whole thing about finding a wife? This is literally a repeat of 4 years ago...
They brought up the American Revolution... things are going to get good :D


 
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Sep 30, 2014 7:22 PM

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American Revolution... next is the French Revolution! Ah, finally to the good stuff?
 
Oct 4, 2014 8:51 PM

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WolfWood37 said:
Okay it seems I was totally oblivious to Oscar being in love with Fersen also. Him leaving like this was really the only choice he could make in order to save face for all of them.

Well that is the halfway point, time for the second act.

The whole Oscar having feelings for Fersen feels pretty random.

Poor André, why is it always the childhood friend who gets screwed over in these situations >_>
 
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loved this episode, this is what I want. more Oscar and more angst. personally think Oscar is suffering the most, she's hiding her feelings so well and still loves Marie even though she loves Fersen.

loving Oscar more and more, even that's even possible
 
Jan 8, 2016 4:18 AM

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Fersen made the right choice, good luck in the war. Dayum! Oscar looks so good in that formal outfit.
 
May 5, 2016 1:35 PM

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Oscar being in love with Fersen is pulled out of their ass. What kind of spectacular conversation did they have for Oscar to like him? None! That's right, none so what's going on?

And as usual, Antoniette have no shame in continuing to cheat on her husband behind his back. Can you spend an ounce of that determination into ruling your country right?
 
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Lol, I guess I'm pretty oblivious too Oscar's feelings because I really couldn't tell that she was in love with Fersen until I read this thread.

Anyway, I really liked that they brought up the American Revolution, I was beginning to think they weren't going to mention it at all, but I'm glad they did since it's a major reason for the French Revolution.

I'm kind of glad that Fersen left, I was getting sick of his relationship with Marie Antoinette, and I wish someone on the show would call her out for hypocrisy instead of just gossiping about it.

God, I hope Louis XVI finds out about it at some point in the series.
 
Jun 11, 2016 1:51 AM

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Outstanding episode.
RoV has all of a sudden produced back to back gem of episodes. Everyone's feelings is portrayed with utmost care, for they're still too fragile given the circumstances.
Props to the slightly mature art style.
Poor Andre. Love that cannot be spelled out. Perfectly describes his feelings towards Oscar
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Jul 9, 2016 1:58 PM

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Akio Sugino started to work from Episode 19, so this is why artstyle got better.
 
Jul 19, 2016 1:57 PM

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The directing was very good this episode. Is this the episode when Dezaki took over?
 
Apr 20, 2017 5:08 AM

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People finally look more grown up - YES!
A bard singing maudlin songs - YES!
American Revolution - YES!
Antoinette x Fersen porno on sale - YES!
Only subtle hints at brewing feelings - YES!

I don't know what happened, but this show just dialed everything up and I love it.
 
Jul 10, 2017 5:38 PM

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Sometimes I feel that the King is just there for decoration.
 
Sep 26, 2017 2:23 AM
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their faces and body finally matured. i like it.

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Oscar being in love with Fersen is pulled out of their ass. What kind of spectacular conversation did they have for Oscar to like him? None! That's right, none so what's going on?

And as usual, Antoniette have no shame in continuing to cheat on her husband behind his back. Can you spend an ounce of that determination into ruling your country right?


yeah, it just doesn't feel natural.
 
Nov 23, 2017 11:32 AM

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Died_in_Vain said:
Oscar being in love with Fersen is pulled out of their ass. What kind of spectacular conversation did they have for Oscar to like him? None! That's right, none so what's going on?

And as usual, Antoniette have no shame in continuing to cheat on her husband behind his back. Can you spend an ounce of that determination into ruling your country right?


Fersen put his life on the line and risked being executed for siding with Oscar following Antoinette's horse riding incident. His actions were not romantically driven (he hadn't realised Oscar was a woman at that stage), but out of respect and his own values. Oscar was deeply moved by this. Not to mention that Fersen is portrayed as fairly attractive, cultured and intelligent, so I don't think it is out of the question for Oscar to develop feelings for him. One of the key themes in Rose of Versailles so far is about unfulfilled love with Oscar's feelings for Fersen being just one example (the other two are between Fersen and Antoinette, and Andre and Oscar).

Antoinette is a foolish, ignorant girl that was hugely ill suited to her position as queen. This was how she was described in history, this is how she is shown in Rose of Versailles. Frustrating to watch, no doubt. No surprise she got guillotined.
 
Nov 24, 2017 3:40 AM

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Best episode yet. It portrayed wonderfully every character's poignant feelings of heartbreak.
Marie Antoinette is a JoJo
 
Dec 12, 2017 4:04 PM

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Stay alive Fersen. Really good and emotional episode overall.
Kokoro did nothing wrong.

 
Feb 10, 2018 11:01 AM
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He'll probably die in the war.

I thought Oscar's feeling for Fersen were pretty obvious.

 
Apr 14, 2018 2:32 PM
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Fersen não fez nada mais que o correto. Esse romance ia causar sérios problemas. Ver Oscar dançar pela primeira vez foi realmente interessante assim como vê-lá chorar por Fersen.
 
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