| the title says it all. :) Please give me your opinion. This is a free debate thread. Don't bash people. |
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| I think this topic has surfaced already but, nevermind , i'll give my opnion L>Light>Near>Mello In the anime, Near is inferior to Light, but in the manga, he is almost on par with light Light displays a creative way of dodging the suspicion of the investigators, BUT he is at a big advantage because he possesses a weapon almost unknown to man ( a weapon with unknown specifications), it's hard to fight something you're unfamiliar with, it was an inevitable loss for L but nevertheless he's still more of a genius than Light, He managed to deduce with utmost accuracy, but Light evades this because of his advantage and btw, the author said it himself, L is the smartest guy in Death Note, because the plot requires it As for Near, in the Anime he just got plainly lucky because of Light's overconfidence But in the manga he displays better manifestation of genius And lastly Mello, he's still a genius but his emotions just get in the way, his methods are too rash, his plans has a lot of loopholes and at 70% physical action and 30% wits, in comparison to the others who use their brains more often than physical contact |
Almost_Alice said: Sorry for the topic being a somehow replica of the previous ones. :(I think this topic has surfaced already but, nevermind , i'll give my opnion L>Light>Near>Mello In the anime, Near is inferior to Light, but in the manga, he is almost on par with light Light displays a creative way of dodging the suspicion of the investigators, BUT he is at a big advantage because he possesses a weapon almost unknown to man ( a weapon with unknown specifications), it's hard to fight something you're unfamiliar with, it was an inevitable loss for L but nevertheless he's still more of a genius than Light, He managed to deduce with utmost accuracy, but Light evades this because of his advantage and btw, the author said it himself, L is the smartest guy in Death Note, because the plot requires it As for Near, in the Anime he just got plainly lucky because of Light's overconfidence But in the manga he displays better manifestation of genius And lastly Mello, he's still a genius but his emotions just get in the way, his methods are too rash, his plans has a lot of loopholes and at 70% physical action and 30% wits, in comparison to the others who use their brains more often than physical contact I agree with you on that and the thought somehow told me that Light is very unfair in the battle of wits among the four. Anyway, do you have a link on where I can find the interview where you read about the writer's opinion about this? |
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| 1.L 2.Near 3.Light 4.Mello |
| Shouldn't this be on the Death Note section? Anyway, a poll would be good. But of course L is smarter than them. They admit that they're smarter than L when working together, but otherwise L is smarter than both of them. |
| Noa Ikurumi wins them all. :3 |
| I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls. |
MetalTokomon said: I agree with you on that and the thought somehow told me that Light is very unfair in the battle of wits among the four. Anyway, do you have a link on where I can find the interview where you read about the writer's opinion about this? here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L_(Death_Note)#cite_note-HowtoRead191-14 Ohba said that L is the smartest character in the manga because "the plot requires it". Ohba, Tsugumi (2008). Death Note 13: How to Read. Viz Media. p. 215. ISBN 1-4215-1888-0. Death Note 13: How to Read describes L in the Death Note yonkoma as the "holder of the world's greatest mind" and having the "powerful ability to act like a fool". Death Note 13: How to Read adds that in the yonkoma "it's like born to be mocked". If you've read the manga, a special chapter is given for the elaboration of the characters, that's where you'll find it Although in the How to Read, L was displayed has slightly less intelligent than Light and Near, they changed it soon, and in the Anime, the author again confirmed it, L is superior to Light and Near http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/L look up his intelligence rating and compare it to the three |
RadiGenSep 10, 2011 4:50 AM
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| It'll be Light > L > Near >Mello Light was dealing with multiple enemies. His advance planning, deductive reasoning and ability to control and influence others was simply outstanding!! |
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rohan18 said: It'll be Light > L > Near >Mello Light was dealing with multiple enemies. His advance planning, deductive reasoning and ability to control and influence others was simply outrageous. Totally agree with you, I can't understand when people say that Light "possesses a weapon almost unknown to man" then, that's all about that? And what about L that can afford to construct a huge building just for this investigation, can dispose of use of countless man and ultimate technology, can be invasive and install cameras in your entire room to stalk you, can chain up you with him with, can get to a point to KIDNAP and TORTURE you to tell the truth (and don't say he didn't do that because what he did with Misa when she abdicated the first time and the time he locked her and Light in that prison?). While Light might have the advantage of the Death Note, he managed to keep doing his "work" while L was being so invasive in his life. Light get to a point where he put a shinigami in a dead end, he played with his feelings; and we are talking about a creature that's alive for countless years. By the way, I'm really surprised to know that the creator said L is supposed to be the smartest. |
| 1. Light 2. L 3. Near 4. Mello |
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| Light is clearly the smartest. Anyone who says otherwise must have been watching a different anime. |
bayanime14 said: Lol...L is the smartest but his friendship with Light clouds his judgement |
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| Mello's intelligence is underrated. He thinks up theories quickly and, unlike other characters, isn't afraid to take action. He's probably still at the bottom, but I think it's pretty close. 1. Near 2. L 3. Light 4. Mello. |
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| Near had everything handed to him. Right from where he enters the manga, he has full cooperation of the FBI and the United States. A lot of information on Kira is already out there because L did all the footwork, despite being put in what looked like an impossible situation. It is because of all this that Near is the least intelligent. Light managed to maintain his roles as Light Yagami and Kira for several years and eventually became the stand-in L- a position that L himself said would be the ultimate position. However, he would have been found out if stupid Rem hadn't killed L. Mello built a network of support and information all on his own. He just does as well as Near despite not having all the advantages that Near has. Because of his recklessness, he ended up having to cooperate with Near and was just another advantage that Near had over Light 1. L 2. Light 3. Mello 4. Near |
| Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. ~That Nietzsche guy |
| Script and stats its Near=Light>L>Mello For plot requirement it becomes L>Light>Near>Mello For me its L>Light>Near>Mello L was definitely smarter than Light the only problem with him is he was clouded by friendship, he knew early on that Light is Kira. |
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| I wanted Light to be the smartest, but we saw how that turned out... 1. L 2. Near 3. Light 4. Mello Idk, i don't really think Mello is very smart because he lets his immaturity get the best of him. tbh, Mello and Light are really similar. they act before they think. then, of course, L and Near are similar as well. |
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| L>Light/near>Mello I think light and near are close to L's intelligence |
| Author said himself, L is smarter. |
DGrimreaperD said: Mello's intelligence is underrated. He thinks up theories quickly and, unlike other characters, isn't afraid to take action. He's probably still at the bottom, but I think it's pretty close. 1. Near 2. L 3. Light 4. Mello. I agree intelligence wise but I also have to say that Near is pretty useless on his own because he might be intelligent af but he can't do anything. However I think he's displayed as more intelligent than L both in the Manga and in the Anime, mainly for the same reason that people call him a cheat. Also; nothing can stop Near and Mello together. L comes after Near because he's still very smart and has proven it so many times but his intelligence is more human than Near's. Then there's Light, as he's obviously less intelligent than both Near and L, seeing how many things were offered to him on a silver plate too, really, how many times has he said "The gods really are on my side" or has things happened way too conveniently, although it was mostly in the beginning and it's also what made him go over confident over the years. He also made a great deal of mistakes which luckily none of them went really wrong. Then comes Mello ofc since he's so emotional, he could be compared to Light for this aspect but for the fact that Light can actually control his emotions, while L and Near never displayed any. While he's not any less intelligent, he's very impulsive and lets his feelings cloud his judgement, but at least he gets shit done. He might be the character who gets the most shits done although he only shows up later and dies before the end. EDIT: I'm actually wondering which is more intelligent between Mello and Light but i'll leave it this way for now. So; Recap: Near>L>Light/Mello And for the comment right before me if Near is very smart he's definitely smarter than Light. |
KayaOscopeJul 8, 2016 7:50 AM
KayaOscope said: DGrimreaperD said: Mello's intelligence is underrated. He thinks up theories quickly and, unlike other characters, isn't afraid to take action. He's probably still at the bottom, but I think it's pretty close. 1. Near 2. L 3. Light 4. Mello. I agree intelligence wise but I also have to say that Near is pretty useless on his own because he might be intelligent af but he can't do anything. However I think he's displayed as more intelligent than L both in the Manga and in the Anime, mainly for the same reason that people call him a cheat. Also; nothing can stop Near and Mello together. L comes after Near because he's still very smart and has proven it so many times but his intelligence is more human than Near's. Then there's Light, as he's obviously less intelligent than both Near and L, seeing how many things were offered to him on a silver plate too, really, how many times has he said "The gods really are on my side" or has things happened way too conveniently, although it was mostly in the beginning and it's also what made him go over confident over the years. He also made a great deal of mistakes which luckily none of them went really wrong. Then comes Mello ofc since he's so emotional, he could be compared to Light for this aspect but for the fact that Light can actually control his emotions, while L and Near never displayed any. While he's not any less intelligent, he's very impulsive and lets his feelings cloud his judgement, but at least he gets shit done. He might be the character who gets the most shits done although he only shows up later and dies before the end. EDIT: I'm actually wondering which is more intelligent between Mello and Light but i'll leave it this way for now. So; Recap: Near>L>Light/Mello And for the comment right before me if Near is very smart he's definitely smarter than Light. I'll agree with that. I've never found Light to be as intelligent as people think. If Mello had originally got the Notebook, he would've ruled the world! |
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DGrimreaperD said: KayaOscope said: I agree intelligence wise but I also have to say that Near is pretty useless on his own because he might be intelligent af but he can't do anything. However I think he's displayed as more intelligent than L both in the Manga and in the Anime, mainly for the same reason that people call him a cheat. Also; nothing can stop Near and Mello together. L comes after Near because he's still very smart and has proven it so many times but his intelligence is more human than Near's. Then there's Light, as he's obviously less intelligent than both Near and L, seeing how many things were offered to him on a silver plate too, really, how many times has he said "The gods really are on my side" or has things happened way too conveniently, although it was mostly in the beginning and it's also what made him go over confident over the years. He also made a great deal of mistakes which luckily none of them went really wrong. Then comes Mello ofc since he's so emotional, he could be compared to Light for this aspect but for the fact that Light can actually control his emotions, while L and Near never displayed any. While he's not any less intelligent, he's very impulsive and lets his feelings cloud his judgement, but at least he gets shit done. He might be the character who gets the most shits done although he only shows up later and dies before the end. EDIT: I'm actually wondering which is more intelligent between Mello and Light but i'll leave it this way for now. So; Recap: Near>L>Light/Mello And for the comment right before me if Near is very smart he's definitely smarter than Light. I'll agree with that. I've never found Light to be as intelligent as people think. If Mello had originally got the Notebook, he would've ruled the world! 100 % agreed Rewatching the last episodes only confirmed this |
| In my opinion, L was the smarter one. True that Light killed him and was pretty much against the world, but let's be honest, no one else in the world could've been a match for Light except L (at least in the show, anyway. Fuck off, Near) The only reason Light was able to beat L (and why Light didn't lose in episode 15) was because of supernatural BS. In the natural world, L had Light beat |
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| As it was pointed out a few times already: L > Light > Near > Mello |
| Light, and L for sure .....becuase light outsmarted L for friendship which is sad... But near and mello are up there, just not as much as them |
| L > Light > Near > Mello Near and Mello at the end since Near himself said that alone they couldn't surpass L or beat Kira, but together they could. L over Light due to how fast and accurately he was able to narrow it down who Kira was. Took less than 2 weeks to figure out the killings were caused by someone and narrow down the location. Then a little more than a month afterwards to start suspecting Light (FBI agents dies and so he places cameras in the homes of 2 families). A little after that he decides to take the same university entrance exam as Light. Basically, less than 2 months to start investigating Light. Another reason I rank him first is by all the amount of "supernatural" facts he found out about the death note. Of course, this may be completely one sided since L is one of my ultimate favorite characters xD ps. timeline link: http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/Manga_Timeline |
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