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Jul 5, 2008 3:37 PM
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Eh, Morpheus dude deserved a bigger death than that. Really hated that guy. Bright should have killed him.
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Jul 28, 2008 3:53 AM
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True, I wanted that guy to take some ultimate divine punishment. I hated him since the first episode you met him around the beginning, lol.
Oct 20, 2009 7:24 PM
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So Scirocco is gonna be the final boss... he's always been one of the most cunning and manipulative antagonists of this series but I honestly wasn't excepting him to be the last big boss standing. Anyway this episode was amazing, the fight with the Zeta Gundam and the Psycho? Gundam was incredible, and finally Rosamy is dead, I couldn't stand her anymore. What happened to Jerid and Yazan? Weren't they with Bask? Oh props to Reccoa for blasting that bastard, right in the face!
Mar 25, 2010 10:02 PM
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so much for rosamia, shes dead too. bask is dead too, sciraccao is gunning for everyone now!
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May 26, 2010 12:49 PM
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Finally, all the annoying cyber-newtypes are out of the way.
Aug 1, 2010 12:45 AM
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Oh the drama in this episode... I'm crushed... seriously what a joke...
And Sciroco ordering Reccoa to kill Basque out of the blue now?
Aug 24, 2010 10:58 PM
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Alas86 said:
Oh the drama in this episode... I'm crushed... seriously what a joke...
And Sciroco ordering Reccoa to kill Basque out of the blue now?

Er.......I seriously have to wonder if I'm watching the same show as some of the people leaving comments.
Maybe the dub was changed so much it actually makes sense unlike the original version...
-laughs-

Did you not watch the last few episodes, where Sciroco kind of engineered the destruction / takeover of the Titans?

And poor Bask. I was expecting him to go out in a bigger way. I was hoping via Colony Laser.
Sep 15, 2010 7:18 AM
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Bask's death was way too underwhelming but the rest of the episode was great.
Jan 24, 2011 8:44 AM
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Like everyone here I kinda expected Bask to stay standing ill the very end, but I guess Scirocco/Harman will remain the main antagonists now.

Poor Kamille has to feel the pain of every newtype that dies because of him. That must suck.
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Jan 26, 2011 9:08 AM

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Aww what a shame... I really wanted to see Bright punch Bask to death xD
Jul 29, 2011 5:44 AM
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Reccoa's moment of awesomeness? Nope, she's still a moody bitch.

Bask was a hateful mofo, but I don't agree with the general sentiment that he should be the final boss. Scirocco and Haman are much more interesting antagonists.

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Bright should have killed him.

With a Bright slap, no less.
Sep 29, 2011 4:31 PM

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I seriously loved the drama in that ep <3
Nov 10, 2012 9:18 PM
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Reccoa's moment of awesomeness? Nope, she's still a moody bitch.

Yeah, even killing that bastard wasn't enough to redeem her. I still consider her the most hateful character of the whole Gundam universe so far, even worst than Bask and Sciroco.
Apr 24, 2013 6:32 AM

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Man Basque needed a much better painful death >.< dam that attention seeking whore= Roccoa :P.

How much more death can Kamile handle? Hmm
May 15, 2013 4:09 PM
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Y'all thought it was good? I thought this was the worst Zeta episode by far. The drama was dumb, especially with Fa and Rosamia's interaction in the store. What a load of bollocks.
Jan 5, 2014 1:19 AM

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I was also hoping for Bask to get a more painful death but this one was very cool. A lot of characters are dying in these last episodes. Apolly, Sarah, Rosamia, Bask, Jamitov... I wonder who else¿
Feb 6, 2014 10:26 PM
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Sorry but Rosamia was really really irritating.
Mar 10, 2014 9:15 AM

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Episode starts

ONII CHAN

Let's go ride on a boat again Rosamia!

ONII CHAN

Episode ends
Jun 4, 2014 12:05 AM
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The death of the lieutenant with the glasses felt rushed tho i know most of the things left will be rushed, we only got 2 ep. left. Kamille did the right thing killing Rosammy, tho it went agains his ideals all this time. Hopefully he doesnt have a psychological breakdown.
Jul 9, 2014 9:52 PM

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Another amazing and tragic episode!

Rosamia appears out of the wild!!

I didn't understand when she got out of her Gundam since it can't move, only to go back in the same Gundam and destroyed the exit which she should have done in the first place.

So Rosamia's original hair was green?? Since it showed in one of her so called childhood pics it's her with green hair his brother actually has a black hair.

But why did her wallet contained someone who looks like Kamille a green hair??

It's seems she does resemble Four!! Since Four has green hair i have a hunch that most of the test subjects have green hair, but for some reason Rosamia's has different one. Though why is Kamille seeing visions of Four and even Sarah??

Is it because their inside of his head trying to end her suffering?

And why when i saw her look at that Yoyo, it seems it is true that Cyber-Newtypes can be controlled like puppets.

Damn Kamille had to kill another close person to him. What i didn't understand is why didn't Char launched?? You would think he would be important in a mission like this? At least defend Granada from Rosamia from the meantime.

And yeah Bask's life ended like the Zabi family. Undeveloped, killed just like that just because he was there. Damn Reccoa didn't even said a thing and blew the whole ship.

And what the hell happened to Emma?? I hope she escaped the colony safely.

Kamille no longer cries hard this time around, since he know it's useless to dwell like this. All humans do is just kill each other anyways.

Great episode, but definitely feels rush as hell. I understand there's only two episodes left, but i kinda wish they expanded this more.

Now we will never know Four and Rosamia's past. Unless they added it in on Double Zeta or something.

Can't wait to finish this so i could go on with ZZ!!!

I read it wasn't dark in the first half as Zeta, but becomes dark if not even darker than Zeta in the second half.

Last two episodes!! Reccoa, Paptimus and Haman Karn are the only ones left.

let's go!!!
Apr 20, 2015 1:54 AM

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Axis being an asteroid (or something or whatever) on a collision course with Granada seemed to come out of the blue. I don't remember hearing anything about that. Glad some characters are dying now. Jerid seems to have fucked off to somewhere. Hopefully he won't slip away alive and haunt ZZ with his bullshit "piloting abilities" that don't allow him to ever be successful in any operation.
Dec 16, 2015 8:50 PM

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Autistic fake ass imouto is now out of the way. Woohoo!

Honestly, I was getting tired of Kamille getting out of the Gundam and trying to reason with every mentally challenged female pilot he met. I mean, I know the newtype connection thingy was supposed to play a part in his reactions but I just couldn't buy it, especially considering the countless pilots he has already killed. That being said I'm satisfied to see the deaths he's responsible for are finally starting to take their toll on his emotional stability, even though it took killing an infiltrated enemy pilot that only ever acted like your nonexistent 4 years old retarded little sister for that shit to happen.

I'm also disappointed by Bask's death: not that I expected anything approaching Kicilia levels of badassery, but it was still underwhelming. Aside from that, it was a good episode.
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Mar 31, 2016 9:00 PM
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First great episode n a while. This is how you wind down a series!! Kamille having to consciously take the kill shot against Rossamia was probably the hardest thing this or the previous series ever forced on a protagonist. I feel they usually have people jump in front of others, but he made the choice her or the Argama, and he made the right choice.

I was happy for Bask to have an anonymous death, he didn't deserve any better, the aggressive bully deserved to be wiped away wiout even a lingering shot goodbye.

The death toll is going to get huge, isn't it?
May 10, 2016 12:26 AM

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The last chance for Camille to succeed in his enterprise to save an "ennemy"... is gone. He failed on the path he chose and I felt really bad for him. People dislike/hate Rosamya but she was another incarnation of the horror of the war. Those girls (Rosamia, Four, Sara) did not really choose to be on the battlefield, someone else decided for them (even Sara, since she was under influence). I think that is the reason why Camille wished to free them from the war.
After last episode psychic stimulation, he seems weakened. Now, he's haunted by his failures. I don't know why but the way he made Char shut up at the end of the episode left me sad.
I still prefer Amuro personally, but Camille's character is very interesting since he didn't totally gave himself up to others expectations but struggled to keep his own desire in the middle of a war.

I wonder if he will try to compensate those errors by "de-subjugate" Reccoa.

5/5
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Jul 6, 2016 12:35 AM

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@Rei366 He tried his best, but war finally broke him. I am someone who struggled mightily to immerse myself in this show but this episode was pretty damn sad.
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Jul 6, 2016 12:44 AM

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@Lease_of_Life This explains your rythm. ^^ I'm glad I am not the only one who had issues to follow Zeta (despite the fact I don't need to feel attachment or anything like that to hear a story). I don't know if you intend to watch Double Zeta and the movie finale of Gundam but you will probably face the same problem then (to be exact, ZZ has its own way to make your road hard while the movie's hardships are partially similar to Zeta)
It might be stupid to have characters existing and dying only to develop something about the hero but I liked it here.
Dec 2, 2016 1:02 PM

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Poor Kamille, hes completely gone now.
Mar 2, 2017 2:02 PM

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Pretty damn intense episode! Really impressive, especially that ending! Really looking forward for the last two episodes.
Jun 24, 2017 6:20 AM

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The madness of Tomino has no limits, continued the slaughter of gentle maidens: it is now the turn of the "lunatic" Rosamia, I'm sorry for her. Narration again inspired by the succession of events. Kamille grew a lot, compared to the beginning, wow!
Even Bask's death is quite violent, but not as "spectacular" as that of Rosamia.
Feb 7, 2018 5:33 PM

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That was a tough choice to make. I think all the killing has started to change Kamille and not for the better...

On a side note:
Jamitov is gone and in this episode Bask Om is a gonner, I hope Jerid is the next one...
May 21, 2018 7:13 PM

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The biggest problem with this episode is that it was poorly constructed. A door stops one of the most powerful gundams ever built, forcing both pilots to fight in their normal suits. A whirlwind somehow pulls Kamille and Rosamia from no atmosphere to atmosphere right where Fa is. Fa says her piece and Kamille and Rosamia run back to their gundams and proceed to move them. Rosamia also somehow got her lasers to work again. She goes berserk and Kamille finally kills her quite easily, though she wasn't moving much. My favorite part in all of this is that I literraly said "What just happened?" when I saw Rosamia step into the residential area, only for her to ask that exact same question seconds later.

What I found most disappointing is that three key events became afterthoughts. The first major bad guy, Bask, dies in an anticlimatic fashion, Reccoa had what was probably her finest hour, and Torres saves the day by actually getting the asteroid to be deflected. Each of these moments deserve significantly more recognition than this anime gave them, just to allow Kamille to kill a Four clone that the anime wasn't even trying to hide.

Kamille Bidan Kill Count:
1 Kill this episode
68 Kills total
Nov 19, 2018 4:28 PM

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I'm a sucker for drama and this episode did a pretty good job. Rosamias death was a safe one, yet it was still sad to see that Kamille couldn't save her.

Glad to see that Bask is gone, but boi , his death scene wasn't as good as I hoped for.

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Dec 27, 2018 5:29 PM
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Happy to see Bask was killed, even though it was a little underwhelming. Rosamia was killed too which was what I was hoping for since she was just getting in the way
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gotta say one of the dumbest this about this series is the cyber newtypes they are annoying as fuck and really hurts the series

the only one i could say wasnt bad was sarah but my god is these cyber new types annoying cause all of them played out the exact same way but now finally they're all gone so no more annoying bs

another good thing this ep the bald guy finally died another person wish have died sooner i didnt like him ever since 0083 and seeing him here made it worse but finally he's dead

now just need Katz, Reccoa and Jerid to get dealt with and all will be good only 2 eps left so hope things end good
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Jun 20, 2020 11:54 AM

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Isn’t it convenient that Axis decided to fall on Granada of all places?

Poor Kamille got schizophrenia with all those voices in his head. War traumatizes people, kids!

Bask Om is finally dead. We didn't even get to see his eyes (though there's like one picture of him without glasses on a concept art sheet or something like that, look it up on gundam wiki).
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Zeta is at its best when it focuses on political intrigue, military operations, action scenes. It's at its worst when it attempts character drama. That's my conclusion.
Mar 5, 2021 5:17 PM

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They're starting to kill characters at this point, really? Its too late. This anime is rushed sadly. Too many time wasted on pointless battles and drama. Some changes in the plot and it could be much better.
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Jan 13, 2022 4:31 AM

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The way Kamille muttered "Four" right as Rosammy shot at Fa had me burst out laughing.
Jul 29, 2022 4:51 PM
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Poor Rosamia. She deserved better. She may have been a discount four but the poor thing didn't deserve to died by the guy she confused as her Brother. Bask low. He deserved worse. The guy came up with a horrid plan to kill Kamille parents in the vacuum of space. Been up to who know what since and he's killed by a character no one likes.

I think the writers are trying to piss of the viewers at this point.
Nov 5, 2022 6:22 PM
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Don't know why they didn't put the usual "death jingle/tune" when Rosamia died, it kind of became a habit in this series

What the heck was Yazan doing in this episode? He did nothing, much less trying to save Bask, maybe by Scirocco's orders? And yes, disappointing death for sure, it could have been shown differently, at least like the generals in MSG, with an angle that left a slightly different impression.

These last episodes are good but yes they feel rushed. I agree with the ones saying it should have been explored/expanded better
Dec 13, 2022 8:56 PM
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Well, Rosamia turned out to be a clone of sorts. Too bad we didn't get that like ten episodes before. And Bask going out like that. My word, this show is so lazy.
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Well, there go 2 characters in one fell swoop. Can't say i'm too torn up since Rosamia was annoying and Bask was super generic, but it was pretty brutal. Kamille also seems to be really leaning into his role as a newtype, and not necessarily in a good way. His development has actually been one of the better parts of the series for me.
Sep 1, 2023 6:32 AM

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48 episode of build up only to have the most uninteresting and boring death ever, for both jamitov and bask.
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Oct 28, 2023 8:40 AM
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@Rei366 He tried his best, but war finally broke him. I am someone who struggled mightily to immerse myself in this show but this episode was pretty damn sad.
@Lease_of_Life This. The show increasingly lost me post Reccoa reccoaing all over the plot, but this episode actually kinda got me. Welp, Zeta has two more episodes to lose me again, and considering the way things havd been going, i have no doubt that it will.

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