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Jul 3, 2008 9:10 AM

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Ahh that was close, he should have gone ahead and sacrifice them, they were criminals after all.
 
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Jul 24, 2008 1:58 PM

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I enjoyed episode 22 :)
I thought that the way the oppurtunity of creating the Philosphers Stone was presented was awfully tricky.

Kotori said:
Ahh that was close, he should have gone ahead and sacrifice them, they were criminals after all.

Reading this, it sort of reminded me of Death Note. Yes, Ed could have sacrificed them and he wouldn't have felt as bad since they were criminals anyways. But on the other hand --> they were human beings as well.

All in all, I guess I was happy with the choice Ed made.
Anyways, it wasn't that unexpected - you can't have Ed and Al making the Philosophers Stone in episode 22 already xD



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Jul 24, 2008 2:06 PM

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I think that if he really had sacrificed them, the series wouldn't be the same. And I don't mean that it would be shorter or so, but...

Obtaining the Philiophers Stone through sacrificing humans is just way to out of characther for Ed... And, well, I'm glad they didn't make it.


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Jul 24, 2008 5:21 PM

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But on the other hand --> they were human beings as well.


but criminal human beings no longer have the right to live on

Obtaining the Philiophers Stone through sacrificing humans is just way to out of characther for Ed... And, well, I'm glad they didn't make it.


 
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Kotori said:
jazmin_s said:
But on the other hand --> they were human beings as well.


but criminal human beings no longer have the right to live on

I don't really believe that. People can always change, therefore there needs to be lasting life in order for that change to happen. However that would just lead into other topics. I guess all in all, it's just a matter of opinion :)



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jazmin_s said:

Reading this, it sort of reminded me of Death Note.

That's exactly what I was thinking coming into this thread! ^_^
It's been a while since I watched FMA, But I remember this episode quite a bit. It was one of the best episode of the show in my opinion. It really brung out the fact that Ed deathly wanted to get Al's body back ... but he wanted to go about it the right way. Loved it!



 
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Kotori said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ahh that was close, he should have gone ahead and sacrifice them, they were criminals after all.

they were people after all.
 
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brendon14 said:
Kotori said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ahh that was close, he should have gone ahead and sacrifice them, they were criminals after all.

they were people after all.


Criminals should just die though, irl :)
 
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Kotori said:
brendon14 said:
Kotori said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ahh that was close, he should have gone ahead and sacrifice them, they were criminals after all.

they were people after all.


Criminals should just die though, irl :)


well, they could be given a second chance.

 
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well, they could be given a second chance.


I disagree.
 
Mar 24, 2009 1:17 PM

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Amazingly well scripted and produced episode. My favorite so far.
 
Mar 29, 2009 5:34 PM

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zhiying123 said:
Kotori said:
brendon14 said:
Kotori said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ahh that was close, he should have gone ahead and sacrifice them, they were criminals after all.

they were people after all.


Criminals should just die though, irl :)


well, they could be given a second chance.
Kotori said:
zhiying123 said:
well, they could be given a second chance.


I disagree.


I think that they too shouldn't die. Not that way anyway. If they were to die then they should do it the proper way. With a fair trial an stuff. But they are people and yes, people can change. But if they die, they won't have that chance to change.


Also, what about the incident when Ed stepped into the "red water"? I thought it was a little confusing. Very cool, but confusing. I didn't understand how come he went back to normal after that military woman hugged him (I can't remember her name). I totally thought it was going to continue into the next episode because it seemed like a last minute conflict and I was thinking, "How ae they going to solve this in th next couple minutes? They're probably going to continue into the next one."
 
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Kotori said:

but criminal human beings no longer have the right to live on


Kotori said:

Criminals should just die though, irl :)


GTFO! I hate that kind of reasoning.

Anyway, good episode, this series is finally starting to get interesting!
 
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Also, what about the incident when Ed stepped into the "red water"? I thought it was a little confusing. Very cool, but confusing. I didn't understand how come he went back to normal after that military woman hugged him (I can't remember her name). I totally thought it was going to continue into the next episode because it seemed like a last minute conflict and I was thinking, "How ae they going to solve this in th next couple minutes? They're probably going to continue into the next one."
he stopped when lieutenant Ross hugged him because she reminded him of his mother. hence calming his alchemy down, somehow.
 
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Really good episode!
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Universal law of anime: Hugs will always solve everything when someone's going berserk.
 
Jan 10, 2010 12:25 AM

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Universal law of anime #2: so will slaps
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I loved this episode it was great. Yay Envy in a lil action. Hughes seems to suspect the Brigadier General(the dude with the eye patch). Oh my god, I cheered when Scar intervened. I knew they would make it but it was so good, it still had me on the edge of my seat. That was so cool when Ed was loosing control, really pretty.
I'm glad that Ed didn't sacrifice the prisoners lives...I felt that Scar was watching, waiting to see what he would do. If he had sacrificed the prisoners Scar would probably tried to kill him, instead when Ed choose to not kill them, he intervened and told Ed to get his brother out of there. Again AWESOME episode.
 
May 8, 2010 10:37 AM

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Yep really good episode
 
Jul 17, 2010 12:12 AM

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Holy... crap... This episode was utterly gripping, plus they explained everything really well so there was no confusion.
 
Jul 17, 2010 12:23 AM

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woops, double post
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Oct 3, 2010 1:19 AM

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Very good episode.... not going to lie... tried a little..... "Mom...?"

 
Oct 15, 2010 5:30 AM
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is fullmetal boy now like 10 times stronger because of that red water???
 
Oct 20, 2010 5:56 PM
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I hate this crap about criminals must die, if those criminals were your family, you would not say that = fact. Anyways, very good ep.
 
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Wow... I can't believe people here would be so easy to pass judgment onto others. Learn to think beyond those self-centered-thoughts and the consequences of your "judgment" if it came to happen.

Another great episode, I think I'm falling in love with Lieutenant Ross :O She became so determined to help the Elric brothers after seeing their own determination ^^
 
Nov 25, 2010 9:05 AM

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Wow, a lot happened in this ep. Ed made the wrong decision. If this was real life, he would've died in the spot and the series would be over. But since this is fiction, a savior popped up in the last moment to save the day. :D

BTW, how stupid can these military people get? They don't even know their own comrades, the culprits easily got away just by donning military suits. :D

The red water scene was really something, awesome animation and effects. I was kinda expecting Ed to transform into some kind of giant cyborg. :D
 
Feb 13, 2011 7:38 AM

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... WTH?!?!?!
This episode was a biiiig disappointment...
I saw FMA B first and... This is not the edo I know from FMAB!!!
He would never hasitate on such a thing no matter what the cost is!
He wouldn't do it!
HydraA said:
Kotori said:

but criminal human beings no longer have the right to live on


Kotori said:

Criminals should just die though, irl :)


GTFO! I hate that kind of reasoning.

Anyway, good episode, this series is finally starting to get interesting!


and I agree with hydraA!!
STFU! so what if they're criminals?
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May 14, 2011 7:13 AM

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Really, I'm starting to love this anime =\
 
May 24, 2011 11:30 PM
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That was insane. WTF just happened!!
 
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sorry but i think the criminals should die IRL, only like 5-10% of them would actually feel regret and want to change. besides its too risky, who's gonna be responsible if the criminal was finally free and than killed families afterwards? there are some humans in this words that arent really human at all.
and yes i know my arguements has flaws and such, i dont really want to get into it, just a small opinion.
aside from that, the episode was great. i wonder wats gonna happen to ed now that he absorbed the water?


 
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A lot did happen in this episode, and everything that happened was awesome.
 
Sep 6, 2012 12:45 PM

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Damn so close I do wonder how they'll make the stone another way! The ending was great of this episode!
 
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slicer NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! T_____T

wow nobody notice that gluttony and others just passed by wearing uniforms??

Kimblee and others have escaped the prison.

man soo many of them, Edward and Roy Mustang would have to fight them in the near future!!!!

glad edward didn't sacrifice them, it reminded him that despite being prisoners, their still human after all.

and wow Ross so brave despite Edward on insane mode.

did Edward acquired a new power??

what about Al??

next episode aftermath is gonna be interesting.

Al will definitely ask what Edward was asking???

amazing episode as always :)
 
Dec 31, 2012 10:12 PM

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makes me wanna keep watching, whats gonna happen next?!
 
Jun 29, 2013 5:45 AM

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i think this is the best episode so far, if things keep on going on like this this series could defiantly become a favorite
 
Jul 14, 2013 12:00 PM

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The people here saying "oh they were "crinimals" they have no right to live make me mad. They are people. You cant judge them because they are crinimals. You dont know their story.
 
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What the hell???? Gluttony's "disguise" wasn't even that great! That woman must be blind to tell them they did a good work. Omg.

And I didn't want to get started on this debate about human lives, but...

The people who say that those who have done wrong deserve to be killed and deserve to have their right of living taken away are ignorant. No matter what the case is, I don't believe that it is okay to strip a person of their humanity and to torture them and the like. That's all I'm going to say about that. I'd rather not get too worked up about this.
 
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Wow. Some of you people seriously make me sick. You're vile. You're no better than those you condemn. You want to kill someone for killing someone? You do realise that that makes you a murderer, right? We'd better kill you now. And then get someone to kill the person who kills you. And then kill them. Do you also realise that a criminal can be someone who just stole a TV? Are you seriously saying a TV is equivalent value to a person's life?

I can't even.

Good episode. Glad Ed didn't do it.
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Kotori said:
brendon14 said:
Kotori said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ahh that was close, he should have gone ahead and sacrifice them, they were criminals after all.

they were people after all.


Criminals should just die though, irl :)

i agree with you
 
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this was a good episode i am kinda happy he didn't create it not because they where human cause as i heard many kilt other people so i could careless if they got sacrificed but then it would be like Ed really is the dog of Lust and the others which would be bad in my eyes.

damn tucker there i had my hopes up you had a change of heart but you proved me wrong again your just a asshole that needs to be killed.

i kinda think that if its true that Lust and the other are created humans that the creator has to be Ed his father cause someone said not with his blood going trough you and the military has been looking for his father for a long time so wouldn't surprise me.
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he managed to sneak his way out of transmuting those humans and save al too, lucky
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That was awesome!

They wanted to be human, awww. Like Pinocchio xD Then snuck out!

Ed went crazy!!!! Poor Ed and Al :(

He should've sacrificed the criminals to get Al back!
 
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Good on you Ed.
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Wow. This episode has me fully convinced on the brilliance of this anime.

When you can make people argue on forums about a moral issue that was shown in the episode, but not even heavily focused on in the grand scheme of things, and make them deeply think and question the decisions of the main character based on their personality, then you know you've done something right.

Still puzzled as to what Ed was going to tell Al that night, they've been building it up for quite a while so I hope it isn't a letdown.

Also, Lieutenant Ross, I salute you.

5/5
 
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Edward.......power up?? Awww, Ross is <3
That lady at the end really does look like their mom :O

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Wow. This episode has me fully convinced on the brilliance of this anime.

When you can make people argue on forums about a moral issue that was shown in the episode, but not even heavily focused on in the grand scheme of things, and make them deeply think and question the decisions of the main character based on their personality, then you know you've done something right.

Still puzzled as to what Ed was going to tell Al that night, they've been building it up for quite a while so I hope it isn't a letdown.

Also, Lieutenant Ross, I salute you.

5/5


Yeah!!
 
Jan 28, 2015 10:01 AM

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What, the bad guys could just leave like that in the end? What the hell, they don't even know their own men xD
 
Jan 29, 2015 10:32 AM

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I knew he was not going to do that, and I'm glad I was right.
Can't wait to finally hear the truth Ed wants to tell Al..
 
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Cool episode, for sure. I'm glad he didn't go through with the transmutation. For a while there, I thought it was going to, not knowing that their were people up there, and then torture himself afterwards when he found out.

I love how Ross walked to Ed at the end and hugged him, and how he called her "mom". It was very sweet. She has been rather motherly towards them lately. I'm glad she didn't have to sacrifice herself or anything like that. -- 4/5
 
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Good ep, bit surprised when he suddenly started going superpowered when he stepped in the goop, what and why was he transmuting? The whole ep looked really nice.

I figured that lady must've been working with the homunculi when she said "good job" as they strolled past, that was way too easy.

Also, was confused last ep with the guy who suddenly appeared in a scene saying "130 years", I guess he was a powerful prisoner who got released in the blast and we still don't know who he is, do we?
 
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Episode that does not disappoint this time either expectations, unfortunate that the climax everything is stopped. Narration that opens to countless hypotheses, there really is so much stuff to think about, the plot will benefit enormously, more than satisfied. I can not wait to follow the next episode.
 
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I loved how Scar was basically like "I hate you, but your brother is cool so go save him" xD Everyone loves Al
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