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| I'm growing increasingly frustrated with the warmongering of the earthnoids, and the protagonist's insistence on encouraging them. The spacenoids come, centuries of power ahead of the earthnoids, show incredible patience with them, and still, they get attacked, a member of their peace delegation is killed, their princess isn't provided any security at all and is led through what is basically a warzone, their suits are stolen, and they still maintain their defensive stance, as opposed to just leveling the continent with the ground. And for some reason, the protag prays for their princess to prevent the war, all the while providing leverage for negotiation and unnecessary pride/confidence to the aggressors by staying with them. Really now? |
| Well the Spacenoids did fire first and landed right in the middle of town...that would be cause to start fighting. Besides how would you feel about being evicted from your home because someone else wants to come and claim it for themselves. Spacenoids still have some explaining to do..but I have to admit on getting confused with what each character is doing. |
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| Eh, I think this is suggesting that there was someone else behind the Colonel's death. Most likely Guin himself was behind it and is trying to find some sort of scape goat to cover his tracks. I think the series is wisely holding back on what is going on here. As far as the fighting. I don't know, I think the Earthlings are definitely coming off as the worse of the two. It seems to me they go out of their way to fight and even seem to let that take precedence over everything else. In contrast, we don't really know much about Dianna and what she is really like. I won't be surprised if she isn't as "pure" as Loran naively thinks she is. But, we'll see. I am kind of confused about what Loran is trying to accomplish here, though. If he is so enraptured with Dianna why does he keep fighting her forces? |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Fadeway said: I'm growing increasingly frustrated with the warmongering of the earthnoids, and the protagonist's insistence on encouraging them. The spacenoids come, centuries of power ahead of the earthnoids, show incredible patience with them, and still, they get attacked, a member of their peace delegation is killed, their princess isn't provided any security at all and is led through what is basically a warzone, their suits are stolen, and they still maintain their defensive stance, as opposed to just leveling the continent with the ground. And for some reason, the protag prays for their princess to prevent the war, all the while providing leverage for negotiation and unnecessary pride/confidence to the aggressors by staying with them. Really now? Ooh, you say it better than I do! What is this, Gundam Wing? I was particularly shocked by Dianna's lack of protection. For someone so idolized, they just let her walk down the streets of a contested city, uh? She's the last person who needs to be anywhere near danger right now. :S They obviously weren't expecting any resistance on earth before, but they should at least start putting up a defense now. I don't really understand how exactly the moon race plans to take back earth. I don't think everybody's in agreement as to when and how it will take place. Maybe the Loran really is just unintelligent enough to think his actions will lead to peace somehow. -__- Maybe he isn't even shooting for peace, he just acts for his friends who happen to be members of all sorts of factions. At any rate, he could be a much better spy. v_v At least he isn't Amuro Ray. I'll never be too annoyed by him for that reason. <3 |
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| I really don't understand most of the characters motivations. I hope the next episodes will be more slow paced and explain everything better. Well, it's a Tomino work, so I'm not expecting a good character development. Princess Dianna and this other girl are REALLY similar. I wonder if it will be important plotwise in the future. |
| It's simple, Loran keeps fighting to protect this revenge driven girl. He's split between the moonrace and his earth friends. |
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| So far this has easily been one of the most lackluster Gundam series I've come across.Hell it even makes Seed look good in comparison,and that's saying a lot. The pacing and the editing are just atrociously bad.Most scenes are just slapped together and cut away much to short. |
| Loran crossdressing in next ep preview? dear god. |
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| A lot ofthe MC's are bipolar, it seems. Oooooo'well. |
| Honestly, these comments are confusing me more than the show itself, and that's saying something for a Tomino production LOL! The earthnoids are the worse of the two? They're not the invaders here, and they're not the ones acting like a superior species just for being more technologically advanced. To me, it seems like they're fighting to protect their homeland, though I admit that we don't yet know much about what happened in those failed 2 years of negotiations... And y'all seem to be talking about Diana's lack of protection as if it were bad writing. The fact that she wasn't properly protected was used in this episode as a plot point; the earth ambassadors were seen as incompetent to fulfill the basic tasks of diplomacy. Diana's ambassador recognized this as such and demanded to take her back to the ship, but Diana was intrigued enough by the earthlings to go along anyways. There's quite a bit you can read into that scene when you think about it. |
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| TThe first part lost me at first. Was Guen's plan all along to be better seen or make indirect pressure through a failed attack? It's hard to tell when he is actively misleading both camps. (the mark of the villain?) It's funny to see Loran fighting with such "barbaric" (and potentially uneffective) weapon when he is talking about i-Fields and there are beam weaponry on the other side. Also, I don't understand how the Moonrace choosed a portion of the USAs rather than setting their choices of Europa's vastness. Anyway, between the warlusting Sochie and co. and the superiority complex of the newcomers, the future is álready decided. 2/5 Let's see what Dianna is : a mere symbol or a conqueror? PS: may I predict a "The Prince and the Poor" episode? @St0rmblade "Erizona" seems like a poor transliteration of Arizona from the english script you're using. |
Rei_IIIDec 24, 2020 7:23 PM
Seabury said: And y'all seem to be talking about Diana's lack of protection as if it were bad writing. The fact that she wasn't properly protected was used in this episode as a plot point; the earth ambassadors were seen as incompetent to fulfill the basic tasks of diplomacy. Diana's ambassador recognized this as such and demanded to take her back to the ship, but Diana was intrigued enough by the earthlings to go along anyways. There's quite a bit you can read into that scene when you think about it. Actually, that is a very good point. I was thinking like most on here as to why such little protection, but that makes perfect sense. |
| This episode felt a good bit more "gundam" than the early episodes I'm still not 100% if I like this show or not but I am finding it really hard to stop watching lel This is such a unique and strange series! Even more so that the marking teams allowed this to be called Gundam Really brave artistic choices, I guess it still has some Gundam staples though |
| So apparently the car is too noticeable but it's fine for a Queen to go on foot (she definitely does not stand out, yeah). I'm a bit confused in regards to Harry's rank. Is he a lieutenant? Or a colonel? People are acting strangely in this episode. Suddenly Loran needs to lie to the guards. Can't he just, dunno, say that he's Kiehl's driver, like he did before? "Ameria", "Erizona", militia, Tomino is really trying hard at recreating 19th century America. All those CGI maps, eyecatches, the OP, ED and stuff are a staple of the era, I guess. P.S. It took me 6 EDs to notice that Kiehl "turns" into Diana. P.P.S. In the preview from ep. 5, Loran complains about the actions of Fran and Keith because...reasons? Rei_III said: @St0rmblade "Erizona" seems like a poor transliteration of Arizona from the english script you're using. They just pronounced it that way. Maybe it's OK in Japanese, but to me it looked like a way to make the setting American without using the same names by distorting them a bit (common in anime - to avoid copyright or other complaints, etc) |
St0rmbladeDec 24, 2020 11:02 PM
| Normally it's the princess being the pacifist in gundam (Relena in Wing), but here we have the pilot being the pacifist...but kind of failing at it. Princess Dianna and this other girl are REALLY similar. I wonder if it will be important plotwise in the future. I already know it'll be important later on, the way to identify who is who is That should be helpful for when they swap places occasionally. |
Kihel's has the circles in her eyes, Dianna's eyes are completely teal I've noticed they've been consistent in that aspect since both have been shown.VanishingKiraApr 24, 2022 12:34 PM
Reply to Seabury
Honestly, these comments are confusing me more than the show itself, and that's saying something for a Tomino production LOL!
The earthnoids are the worse of the two? They're not the invaders here, and they're not the ones acting like a superior species just for being more technologically advanced. To me, it seems like they're fighting to protect their homeland, though I admit that we don't yet know much about what happened in those failed 2 years of negotiations...
And y'all seem to be talking about Diana's lack of protection as if it were bad writing. The fact that she wasn't properly protected was used in this episode as a plot point; the earth ambassadors were seen as incompetent to fulfill the basic tasks of diplomacy. Diana's ambassador recognized this as such and demanded to take her back to the ship, but Diana was intrigued enough by the earthlings to go along anyways. There's quite a bit you can read into that scene when you think about it.
The earthnoids are the worse of the two? They're not the invaders here, and they're not the ones acting like a superior species just for being more technologically advanced. To me, it seems like they're fighting to protect their homeland, though I admit that we don't yet know much about what happened in those failed 2 years of negotiations...
And y'all seem to be talking about Diana's lack of protection as if it were bad writing. The fact that she wasn't properly protected was used in this episode as a plot point; the earth ambassadors were seen as incompetent to fulfill the basic tasks of diplomacy. Diana's ambassador recognized this as such and demanded to take her back to the ship, but Diana was intrigued enough by the earthlings to go along anyways. There's quite a bit you can read into that scene when you think about it.
| @Seabury Well said. I'm confused by the negative reactions in here, maybe people are too used to watching dumbed down writing. I'm very confused by anyone defending invaders over victims, yeesh! My only issue at the moment is the pacing of the show, as it does feel like the momentum of the narrative has slowed a bit. I'm also missing space action and colonies, but that'll come later I guess. I was enjoying V Gundam in the beginning before it lost me and got boring and average. I hope that's not the case with Turn A... |
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