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Jun 27, 2008 12:53 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Discussion for the short called "Working Through Pain"

I think this was the best one storywise by a large margin, a little bit of development on how Batman became what he was today, seeking out some guru's to deal with pain.
"Pain doesn't work for you, you work through pain."
Nothing to deep or to dwell on, but nice enough to flesh out a little more backstory of Bruce.
Jun 28, 2008 3:20 PM
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Easily the best, written by the author of the brilliant graphic novel 100 Bullets. Just a great moment of duality, the contrast of the two halves of Bruce's life.
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Jun 30, 2008 1:30 PM
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Umm, I don't get the end. What's the significance of the guns?
Jun 30, 2008 1:54 PM
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Just a literal allusion to Bruce's fight against injustice requiring him do it alone without any help, as shown by the fact that he cant even reach for Alfred because his hands are stuffed with guns and he's not willing to drop them.

EDIT: Also to the fact of him being 'weighed' down by his burden. I thought the last scene was a bit too on the nose, but still nice.
BeatnikJun 30, 2008 1:58 PM
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol
Jun 30, 2008 3:16 PM
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The guns have a bit more significance. The start of the scene he is shocked to see so many guns dumped into the garbage there. He begins to feel as though nothing he can do can change the city as he desperately tries to find all the guns. As Cihan said, he feels overwhelmed since he is only one person.

This scene is actually a setup for the final revelation that Bruce has in the series. His constant and impossible battle in trying to stop the two bullets that killed his parents.

He has an excellent comment in response to a question proposed to him by a bum.
"What does the city look like from above?"
"It looks dirty."

The guns are the garbage that he is trying to clean up that makes the city so dirty.

The guns are also a figuration of hidden crime that is beyond his eyes.
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Jun 30, 2008 6:00 PM
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This one had the best storyline out of all 6. The animation and voice actor were pretty nice too. This is my second favorite short.
Jun 30, 2008 10:32 PM
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This one was very well done and it redeemed the character designs from ep 1. While I think I enjoyed episodes 2 and 4 more than this one, I'd say this one is now the best I've seen content-wise. It's also nice to see the dialogue improving over episodes.
Jul 1, 2008 6:44 PM
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Yeah, this one was probably the best content and story wise. It was nice seeing background info on Bruce and all, and entertaining at the same time.




Jul 3, 2008 3:24 AM
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This one was simply superb. Unless the 6th one is better, this one is without doubt my favorite of them all.
Jul 5, 2008 9:31 PM

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Monkey_D_Luffy said:
Yeah, this one was probably the best content and story wise. It was nice seeing background info on Bruce and all, and entertaining at the same time.
Agreed, this one so far is my favorite... even 6 doesn't top this one for me.
Jul 9, 2008 11:42 AM

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I agree with everything that has been said so I don't have much to add especially what Cihan and renegade said about the significance of the guns at the end which is continued a little in the next short. This is my favorite and Studio 4C shows they can make a quality episode. I was looking forward to this episode the most since Brian Azzarello is a top comic writer with 100 Bullets and has written Batman before.
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This, is my fave. Great episode!

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Jul 10, 2008 4:31 PM

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Awesome! That was pretty much the best one so far.
Jul 10, 2008 5:50 PM

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This one was the best so far. Very well done and loved the development.
Jul 17, 2008 1:14 AM

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Great development, loved the design of Batman and the animation here. Fight scene was excellent. Accents were a little iffy and her name was Cassandra...? Otherwise, loved the symbolism, the story and the meanings, even the scene at the end (though that came off sounding a wee bit trite, I thought it was a better effort than I've seen in most). It was great to see Batman vulnerable instead of deflecting bullets and the discussion of pain was interesting. I liked that they allowed the hero to fail at something; he fails to learn the lesson about pain and letting go, etc. The image we have of Batman as a troubled, heroic figure really came across here. They encapsulated him in a few minutes. Great studio, great short. I'd love to see this one made into a series.
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May 23, 2009 6:39 PM
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Damn, Cassandra is hardcore.
Dec 22, 2009 2:44 AM

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yep, this was the best episode
Mar 21, 2011 1:45 PM

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I thought it was okay, definately good character development, it just didn't excite me like most of the others.
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Oct 27, 2011 4:26 PM

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Easily the best. The Berserk movies should be in good hands.
Feb 10, 2012 2:55 AM
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Hi, big fan of batman. When someone asked me that who is my favorite super hero I always choose batman because he may be not have any super power but due to his brain power and bravery, he manages to defeated villains living in his Gotham city.

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May 9, 2013 4:36 PM
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Eh..it was okay, not a big fan of thought process put through suffering, even if suffering through pain can reward you, I don't follow this sentiment, and the end confuses me because I simply aint the sharpest knife in the drawer to figure these kinds of things out.
Jun 11, 2013 10:16 AM

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Three words.
It was beast!
Jun 14, 2013 5:07 PM

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Really liked how this short balanced the other ones. It had great background story and music, and it showed all the setbacks and loneliness without which Batman's character wouldn't be whole.
Apr 15, 2014 12:00 AM

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Ah, this kind of highlights why Batman/Bruce Wayne is such a compelling character for me.
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Jul 24, 2014 7:46 AM

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Interesting backstory, quite funny ending as well! Let's see what's next.
Jan 23, 2018 8:05 AM

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That was cheesy. The interaction between characters.

The animation is well done.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
Mar 11, 2018 2:54 PM

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This one had a great message especially when Al said to Batman "let's go home" and he said " I will stay here" holding those guns. I think he was pointing out that he will continue fighting pain that is caused by crime and still fight on.
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Sep 6, 2020 8:07 PM

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This one is definitely the best. It leaves me a little sad.
Feb 23, 2022 4:11 AM

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Cassandra is beautiful and its good with dealing with pain

Batman has inner pain that is beyond help for sure sort of like psychological trauma from the death of his parents perhaps

the sakuga on this episode is so smooth too wow
May 14, 2022 8:31 AM
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lihle808 said:
This one had a great message especially when Al said to Batman "let's go home" and he said " I will stay here" holding those guns. I think he was pointing out that he will continue fighting pain that is caused by crime and still fight on.
in Brazilian Dub Alfred says "grab my hand" and after batman look to the guns he says "I can't"
Nov 22, 2023 2:20 AM

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The best episode Cassandra is as beautiful as she is knowledgeable shame she chooses to live in a village that branded her a witch but this is the reality of women in my home nation and region in general. Best episode by far.

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