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Jul 22, 2011 11:34 AM
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Mirai is too cute, and seeing her when she first met Gekkou was nice background story. Taito has his hands full with Himea and Haruka.
Jul 22, 2011 11:40 AM
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Oh, Zexcs. Quit it already.
And what? So, I have no idea what these insects are supposed to be.

Anyway, there was a whole lot of pointless stuff thrown into this episode, and all that actually mattered was the explanation on just what the heck is going on, as well as Gekkou and Hinata's back story.
And their parents were supposedly devoured leaving not a trace, so, there was a bit too much blood.

So, they exchanged the Geinvikku for random insects, and made the silver familiar much less interesting, huh?
My, good job there, Zexcs. ( ¬‿¬)
And what's up with Himea suddenly being all shy and stuff? That's like, not her at all. ಠ_ಠ

...Why the hell did they put in a new ED? Like, seriously, why?
They just changed the best ED of the season for... this pile of crap. ಠ_ರೃ
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Jul 22, 2011 12:47 PM
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The one thing that did catch my attention fast was Andou as follows,

when she first met Gekkou it makes her into a cool character that Himea fails at being bad ass.

Likewise I can say that Gekkou in the following,

was freaking amazing in slashing out the things around Andou in order to get to her.
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Anyway, there was a whole lot of pointless stuff thrown into this episode, and all that actually mattered was the explanation ecchi.
There fixed because that's all that matters when what is that matters should be there. Right? You should know after all the anime you have seen. Don't pretend now.
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And their parents were supposedly devoured leaving not a trace, so, there was a bit too much blood.
That's good, you should have seen how much there was from a cat or dog. No, I was just observing some cult practices.
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...Why the hell did they put in a new ED? Like, seriously, why? They just changed the best ED of the season for... this pile of crap. ಠ_ರೃ
It's because it was a Andou special ED and since Andou > Himea for me, I liked it a lot. Lots of MOE parts of Andou. Well as long as there is less Himea, I am happy.
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Jul 22, 2011 1:33 PM
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This censor miss at the beginning gives us a glimpse of what the DVDs/Blurays may have to offer:

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This censor miss at the beginning gives us a glimpse of what the DVDs/Blurays may have to offer:
Oh nice one! I missed that one. That one is of Haruka and the mirror has censors so there is for sure more to expect from the DVD and it looks good.

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Yumekichi11 said:
Elite60 said:
This censor miss at the beginning gives us a glimpse of what the DVDs/Blurays may have to offer:

Oh nice one! I missed that one.

How did I miss this? My ecchi radar must have been taking a break.
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Yumekichi11 said:
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This censor miss at the beginning gives us a glimpse of what the DVDs/Blurays may have to offer:

Oh nice one! I missed that one.
How did I miss this? My ecchi radar must have been taking a break.
No actually it went by fast. Like a split second. Most people don't bother with frame by frame slow down. I tend to do it but not for all parts so I miss sometimes. I know fights or sudden movements are usually my targets to find out what exactly is flashed by. Elite60 is right about that being a glimpse into what the DVDs may offer and its quality.

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wow someone beat Oosran in creating the thread. with that, two thirds of volume 2 is done, and 80% of that two thirds were either changed or stripped. I'm so absolutely impressed by Zexcs's ability to adapt concisely. I think they deserve a nobel prize of some sort. a new ED! totally brilliant way to spend money on a one cour show. and they have to throw in 'Temperon Crowley', the name of an organization which you will never see in this cour...... and I haven't really thought of how to romanize, or rather English-fy the term yet. I'll probably go with the official ones from N2 or CR if they make sense.
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two thirds of volume 2 is done, and 80% of that two thirds were either changed or stripped. I'm so absolutely impressed by Zexcs's ability to adapt concisely. I think they deserve a nobel prize of some sort. a new ED! totally brilliant way to spend money on a one cour show.
I still think like Oosran would that the 20% instead of it being ecchi putting in that 20% of the LN would have been better.

I do like the order they are going so far.

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I adore Mirai a lot. She is just too cute^
I feel bad for Gekkou. His own brother killed their family..such a badass
Jul 22, 2011 3:14 PM

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Lolis in swimsuits and creepy bug things. I feel sorry for that girl who cooked for him. A new girl suddenly appears out of nowhere and takes the opportunity from her.

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Ew, those bugs are creepy!
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They definitely started the episode in the best way possible.
I loved the part when that bug jumped on Taito, killing him though, very funny.
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i guess we have to watch the next episode for an explanation.
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Mirai was priceless cute this ep and it rare for me to like cute stuff, the gore was decent, background story coverage good, ecchi was ok, and the story seems to be be rushed to much this ep seems like it flew by for me.
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ITS SO RUSHED, THEY CUT STUFF OUT AND THEY REPLACED IT WITH BS.
Still gonna watch it though.=D

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Itsuka, welcome to the same fate as Blood-C, the dropped list.

Ingesting the mold growing on cheese I left outside the fridge for several weeks would be more inviting to me than finishing this series... I have no need to watch our stereotypical archetypes with not a single bit of originality battle random monsters that appear out of nowhere for no reason.

Even the producers of this anime made Taito dying into a running joke... that isn't funny the first time and won't be funny the 1000000th time.
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Yumekichi11 said:
prismheart said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Elite60 said:
This censor miss at the beginning gives us a glimpse of what the DVDs/Blurays may have to offer:

Oh nice one! I missed that one.
How did I miss this? My ecchi radar must have been taking a break.
No actually it went by fast. Like a split second. Most people don't bother with frame by frame slow down. I tend to do it but not for all parts so I miss sometimes. I know fights or sudden movements are usually my targets to find out what exactly is flashed by. Elite60 is right about that being a glimpse into what the DVDs may offer and its quality.


I discovered this too because when a girl takes her shirt off in an anime like that.....
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I hope this Himea chick turns out to be a badass, I don't want her to turn into some airhead.
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....What the hell happen to the ED? Ugh
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Did anyone really think Hinata was dead?
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For a swimsuit episode, this was really entertaining.
Jul 23, 2011 8:23 AM
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Oosran said:
Oh, Zexcs. Quit it already.
And what? So, I have no idea what these insects are supposed to be.

Anyway, there was a whole lot of pointless stuff thrown into this episode, and all that actually mattered was the explanation on just what the heck is going on, as well as Gekkou and Hinata's back story.
And their parents were supposedly devoured leaving not a trace, so, there was a bit too much blood.

So, they exchanged the Geinvikku for random insects, and made the silver familiar much less interesting, huh?
My, good job there, Zexcs. ( ¬‿¬)


I don’t think it a leap to say that gauging how they treated the silver familiar is reflective of how they’ll treat the rest of Itsu-Ten’s main story. It’s akin to the first flag that begins to lead you into the real crux of the story. Treading down a path where you opt out of interest on that part for swimsuits or whatever other perverted nonsense says a lot, IMO.

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And what's up with Himea suddenly being all shy and stuff? That's like, not her at all. ಠ_ಠ


Indeed. One of the things I like best about Himea is that, even while the story is still in the early stages, we’re given bits of insight into Himea’s inner darkness through her anger, jealously, etc. To have her portrayed with shyness akin to that of a naïve school girl doesn’t fit her character at all. –Sigh-

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...Why the hell did they put in a new ED? Like, seriously, why?
They just changed the best ED of the season for... this pile of crap. ಠ_ರೃ


My thoughts exactly. I won’t deny that I’ve been highly critical of Itsu-Ten’s anime from near the very beginning, but if there were anything I’d given some honest praise on, it was the ending. …And now they’re going to take that away from us too?

I can only ask… why?

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Itsuka, welcome to the same fate as Blood-C, the dropped list.

Ingesting the mold growing on cheese I left outside the fridge for several weeks would be more inviting to me than finishing this series... I have no need to watch our stereotypical archetypes with not a single bit of originality battle random monsters that appear out of nowhere for no reason.

Even the producers of this anime made Taito dying into a running joke... that isn't funny the first time and won't be funny the 1000000th time.


A prime example of the kind of mindset I’ve been wary off since I first saw how this anime was progressing, though I can’t blame it, not at all. If this was how I was first exposed to Itsu-Ten, I’d probably be saying near the exact same thing.

I hope you’re pleased with yourselves, ZEXCS. Look at what you’re doing. ><

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I hope this Himea chick turns out to be a badass, I don't want her to turn into some airhead.


The real Himea, by which I mean the one portrayed by Kagami via the LN and in the manga as well, is not an airhead by any stretch of the imagination. And yes, she’s a great deal more dangerous than what’s been portrayed so far… though with the way things are progressing in the anime, who knows if we’ll even get to see it.
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This episode was rather a mediocre one. I liked the first encounter between Gekkou and Mirai. So Mirai was a demon sent by Hinata to kill his own brother. Taito still doesn't know which girl to choose, but I wolud choose Himea instead of Haruka because she is more interesting and cute. It was funny that Gekkou treats Taito as his slave.
I think the bugs were wrong on place because they didn't fit the storyline of this episode.
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A bit of annoying stuff in this episode but coolness as well. Gekkou's giving me the Sasuke vibe even more with his "my evil ghey brother killed my family so I'm emo" backstory. The fact that he's always referring to himself as a genius (tensai) only reinforces the image.

Hinata's demon servant is pretty badass ... demons munching on a sacred seal is like a vampire picking its fangs with a crucifix.

Lots of fanservice, loli and otherwise. Haruka was hotter in her school swimsuit than either the demon lolis, IMHO. Poor girl, she has no chance since Himea would kill her beau (and probably her too) even if she did manage to steal him back.

Speaking of, thanks Elite60 for the nipslip screencap ;)

I'm starting to understand why people dislike Himea. I'm going to stick with it for now, but with 13 ongoing shows on my "Watching" list I'll probably have to drop some shows, and this and Penguin Drum are seeming like likely candidates.

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i like how gekkou didnt care that his parents die, god this anime is retarded
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I'm starting to understand why people dislike Himea.


You seem fairly neutral and calm in making that claim. Curiously, what makes you think that?
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I'm starting to understand why people dislike Himea.
You seem fairly neutral and calm in making that claim. Curiously, what makes you think that?
I've actually only seen one person who dislike her though that's because of some overall disliking towards vampires. Said person knows who he is..
I really can't see why people would dislike her though.
Except this shy version of her that Zexcs made up. That one might get annoying later.
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kakkakka, you guys know nothing about Himea yet, and probably won't for this cour. and don't dismiss Haruka so easily. kusukusu

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Himea is a bitch well not really I think its fucked up that Haruka spent all moring making a bento for the dude and gathered all her courage to ask him to eat with her and he turns her down FOR SOME FUCKING STUDENT COUNCIL MEETING!? He should of accepted Haruku's bento right away and said "Screw u Himea you waited 9 years so u can at LEAST wait 20 minutes for me to eat with Haruka".

Normally I hate the clingy childhood friend (Haruka) but I hate Himea more ever since the begining when she pushed that "vampire contract" on him when he was only 5-7 and she is like 10000000 years old or something yet in a kids body. Yes a loli CAN be a pedophile.

TL;DR Haruka > Himea

With Haruka he can have a normal life and not get killed ever five seconds.


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I hope this Himea chick turns out to be a badass, I don't want her to turn into some airhead.


Yeah when Hinata came in ep 2 and she was all "Lets run Taito" I was really dissapointed SHOULDN'T SHE WANT REVENGE OR ANYTHING!?? Why was she acting all weak isn't she like a god vampire or something? I hope she doesn't turn into a loli version of LaLa from Tu Love Ru.
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Himea is a bitch well not really I think its fucked up that Haruka spent all moring making a bento for the dude and gathered all her courage to ask him to eat with her and he turns her down FOR SOME FUCKING STUDENT COUNCIL MEETING!? He should of accepted Haruku's bento right away and said "Screw u Himea you waited 9 years so u can at LEAST wait 20 minutes for me to eat with Haruka".


In that scene, I seriously thought he was going to grab the both of them and run off. He'd be like, " Let's all eat together!" and then he'd be in some deep sh**. That would have been hilarious.

But even if that didn't happen I laughed a lot watching this episode. Also because Gekkou's backstory seemed really messed up

Chibi Mirai! =3


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Himea is a bitch well not really I think its fucked up that Haruka spent all moring making a bento for the dude and gathered all her courage to ask him to eat with her and he turns her down FOR SOME FUCKING STUDENT COUNCIL MEETING!? He should of accepted Haruku's bento right away and said "Screw u Himea you waited 9 years so u can at LEAST wait 20 minutes for me to eat with Haruka".


In that scene, I seriously thought he was going to grab the both of them and run off. He'd be like, " Let's all eat together!" and then he'd be in some deep sh**. That would have been hilarious.

But even if that didn't happen I laughed a lot watching this episode. Also because Gekkou's backstory seemed really messed up

Chibi Mirai! =3


Well at least she took Haruka's lunch before running off. Lmfao it was funny how Gekkou didn't even care that his parents just got eaten he didn't even cry xDD "My brother sacrificed my parents to a demon.....what a jerk! >:O"
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ShinnKamiyra said:
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I'm starting to understand why people dislike Himea.


You seem fairly neutral and calm in making that claim. Curiously, what makes you think that?


I think the reason people might dislike her because at the beginning it looked like she was forcing him into that contract when he was only 5-7 and she was already like 100 years old? I mean she was basically inviting a kid into a world that would put him into mortal danger just so she can have him , that's pretty fucked up.

Another reason people might not like her is because she is supposed to be some ultra powerful vampire queen YET she barely does ANYTHING in the fight against Hinata (both times) infact instead of getting revenge for being trapped for 9 years she wants to run away wtf?

I also don't like how she is WAAAAAAAY older than the main characters yet she acts like the typical clingy blushing school girl she is basically Haruka but a pedophile version it's kinda creepy if you really think about it. She should be acting like the vampire queen on "Dance in the vampire bund" who also has a loli body but acts mature , elegant , and a little raunchy , but mature non the less.
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I've actually only seen one person who dislike her though that's because of some overall disliking towards vampires. Said person knows who he is..
I really can't see why people would dislike her though.
Except this shy version of her that Zexcs made up. That one might get annoying later.


I don't claim to understand it either. Though if we're just talking about ZEXCS' version, as you said, then I can sort of understand it.

Still... it's none too pleasing to see people making judgments based off of a character that, IMHO, is slowly becoming warped compared to the Himea that Kagami wrote about and the manga portrayed. I'm not out to change anyone's opinions, but if such people are willing to talk about it, I'd like to do what I can.

And yes, larethian, you're right in that we still know next to nothing about Himea. But it's precisely because of that that we need to keep talking about her, and other characters as well of course. And if you say so, I'll try and pay more attention to Haruka from here on.

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I think the reason people might dislike her because at the beginning it looked like she was forcing him into that contract when he was only 5-7 and she was already like 100 years old? I mean she was basically inviting a kid into a world that would put him into mortal danger just so she can have him , that's pretty fucked up.

Another reason people might not like her is because she is supposed to be some ultra powerful vampire queen YET she barely does ANYTHING in the fight against Hinata (both times) infact instead of getting revenge for being trapped for 9 years she wants to run away wtf?

I also don't like how she is WAAAAAAAY older than the main characters yet she acts like the typical clingy blushing school girl she is basically Haruka but a pedophile version it's kinda creepy if you really think about it. She should be acting like the vampire queen on "Dance in the vampire bund" who also has a loli body but acts mature , elegant , and a little raunchy , but mature non the less.


Hrm... so basically you believe that Himea took advantage of Taito when he was still just a naive boy in order to serve her own purposes, is that right? I suppose I can understand where that train of thought might come from, but try and consider this.

It wasn't touched upon in the anime so much, but in the original story,


You don't think there might be a deeper reason for that? Himea certainly did.

Now in addition to that you also need to understand her past. Details and specifics aside, she's spent near the entirety of her existence having people try to abuse her and take hold of her powers. When she met Taito, try to imagine for a moment that he may well have been the first person in her life who stayed by her side for the pure, simple reason of enjoying being with her. Can you really blame her for never wanting to let him go? Did you just want her to cast aside that small bit of happiness that she had finally managed to obtain?

Who would intentionally cast aside a chance for happiness and fall back into a life, if that's what you want to call it, of loneliness and suffering? No one.

Himea did what anyone in her position would've done. She took hold of the happiness that was right in front of her. And, even without all that, let's not forget that without Himea, Taito would be long since dead.

He wouldn't have been put into that kind of danger if Himea hadn't involved herself with him, some might say? Let's not forget that Himea had nothing to do with that truck that ran Taito over in the 1st Episode and decapitated him.
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Haha Taito was in some deep shit when both girls offered him lunch. But he took the bento and went with Himea, good thinking.

Good to find out more about Gekkou's past, and it was pretty obvious Hinata wasn't dead.

Himea getting jealous and stuff was pretty funny. It just made me love her even more.

And why did they change the ED?! Last episode's ED was awesome.. this one just sucks.
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So good, so bad.
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And why did they change the ED?! Last episode's ED was awesome.. this one just sucks.


Ask yourself this. Why would ZEXCS spend more of their budget on a new ending only three episodes in when virtually no other anime has done the same? Take into consideration the numerous other prospects that the money could've been used for, prospects such as the storyboard, dialogue, animation, etc.

This is merely the latest in ZEXCS' relentless attempts to utilize Itsu-Ten and its characters to boost sales. Their 1st ending promoted Himea, along with a likeable song IMO, and now their 2nd promoted Mirai. With this, I wouldn't find it at all surprising if we saw a Haruka-themed ending sometime down the road.
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Meh... Himea annoys me... nuff said ಠ_ರೃ
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Oosran said:
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Blind_Guardian said:
I'm starting to understand why people dislike Himea.
You seem fairly neutral and calm in making that claim. Curiously, what makes you think that?
I've actually only seen one person who dislike her though that's because of some overall disliking towards vampires. Said person knows who he is..
I really can't see why people would dislike her though.
Have you not a single conscious about Taito? He got taken advantage with his piety towards Himea's sadness by having his humanity taken. Is that right? NO! Was it right for Himea? In order to keep her powers as means of using a vessel for it in thee end of love itself working out all? I guess but I don't like vampires in general, only some for some reason.

BTW Himea is not one of them. I think Himea took advantage of Taito. Unlike Miyuu's servant having been defeated in battle and then taken out his normal self through Miyuu's blood sucking, that I can accept.

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Yumekichi11 said:
Oosran said:
ShinnKamiyra said:
Blind_Guardian said:
I'm starting to understand why people dislike Himea.
You seem fairly neutral and calm in making that claim. Curiously, what makes you think that?
I've actually only seen one person who dislike her though that's because of some overall disliking towards vampires. Said person knows who he is..
I really can't see why people would dislike her though.
Have you not a single conscious about Taito? He got taken advantage with his piety towards Himea's sadness by having his humanity taken. Is that right? NO!
I personally wouldn't mind being in Taito's position.
I'd get my own Himea (with her lovely hair), have a pretty interesting kind of "immortality," and I'd receive the hatred of the entire class. What more could one wish for?
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Oosran said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Oosran said:
ShinnKamiyra said:
Blind_Guardian said:
I'm starting to understand why people dislike Himea.
You seem fairly neutral and calm in making that claim. Curiously, what makes you think that?
I've actually only seen one person who dislike her though that's because of some overall disliking towards vampires. Said person knows who he is..
I really can't see why people would dislike her though.
Have you not a single conscious about Taito? He got taken advantage with his piety towards Himea's sadness by having his humanity taken. Is that right? NO!
I personally wouldn't mind being in Taito's position.
I'd get my own Himea (with her lovely hair), have a pretty interesting kind of "immortality," and I'd receive the hatred of the entire class. What more could one wish for?


I wouldnt mind either though Id be freaked out if all the girls around me have rainbow hair, seriously creepy
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Oosran said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Oosran said:
ShinnKamiyra said:
Blind_Guardian said:
I'm starting to understand why people dislike Himea.
You seem fairly neutral and calm in making that claim. Curiously, what makes you think that?
I've actually only seen one person who dislike her though that's because of some overall disliking towards vampires. Said person knows who he is..
I really can't see why people would dislike her though.
Have you not a single conscious about Taito? He got taken advantage with his piety towards Himea's sadness by having his humanity taken. Is that right? NO!
I personally wouldn't mind being in Taito's position.
I'd get my own Himea (with her lovely hair), have a pretty interesting kind of "immortality," and I'd receive the hatred of the entire class. What more could one wish for?
There is the wish of you being never what you were but I can understand boredom being a major factor in your case. In case, it would be ceasing existence. Fearing God, is a bitch in one's existence. I really wonder why would they not include Heaven's powers in this. It makes no sense using hell to fight against hell. I would have loved to have them bring on Archangel Uriel or Saint Michael himself! Now you are talking and seeing some demon bashing. Hinata would shit his pants out.

Instead we are presented the fight between hell's races. Well I am curious as to the resolve but Hell is one big place with several levels.

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actually, I don't even know what are you guys talking about lol. ok just a reminder and not a spoiler since it's already posted here:
http://kadokawa-anime.jp/itsu-ten/post-27.php

≪最古の魔術師(ヴァンパイア)≫ << Most Ancient Sorcerer (Vampire) >>

"ヴァンパイア"と言っても、いわゆる普通の吸血鬼ではない。Even though it's called a vampire, in a manner of speaking, it's not referring to the normal blood suckers.
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]Have you not a single conscious about Taito? He got taken advantage with his piety towards Himea's sadness by having his humanity taken. Is that right? NO! Was it right for Himea? In order to keep her powers as means of using a vessel for it in thee end of love itself working out all? I guess but I don't like vampires in general, only some for some reason.

BTW Himea is not one of them. I think Himea took advantage of Taito. Unlike Miyuu's servant having been defeated in battle and then taken out his normal self through Miyuu's blood sucking, that I can accept.


I'm not sure as to why you believe Taito had his humanity taken away from him, unless our base definitions differ somewhat, which is entirely possible.

Still, let's keep things within scope. Taito is still the same person he always was, with or without Himea's curse upon him. And it's not as though he isn't able to die just like any other human; just in that in his case, he needs to die seven times within fifteen minutes, which as we've already been shown can be achieved quite easily by the right person. As long as he still has the possibility of death residing within him, he still has a choice in the matter and thus, from my perspective, still holds an important piece of what it means to be human within him.

Now while this is just my personal view, I believe you may be placing a bit too much value in a purist notion of humanity with respect to Taito.

When all's said and done, I'm still at a loss to understand why you believe what Himea did to Taito was such a bad thing. From my POV, it's because she cared about him so much that she granted him her power in order to become strong and survive in the 'world' that he's now involved in; granted, in order to fulfill her selfish desire of wanting to be with him. But as I've said, what's so wrong in wanting to seize happiness that's right in front of you?
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Couldn't even bother to finish this episode, it was pure crap, like the previous ones. Dropped.
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Yumekichi11 said:
]Have you not a single conscious about Taito? He got taken advantage with his piety towards Himea's sadness by having his humanity taken. Is that right? NO! Was it right for Himea? In order to keep her powers as means of using a vessel for it in thee end of love itself working out all? I guess but I don't like vampires in general, only some for some reason.

BTW Himea is not one of them. I think Himea took advantage of Taito. Unlike Miyuu's servant having been defeated in battle and then taken out his normal self through Miyuu's blood sucking, that I can accept.


I'm not sure as to why you believe Taito had his humanity taken away from him, unless our base definitions differ somewhat, which is entirely possible.

Still, let's keep things within scope. Taito is still the same person he always was, with or without Himea's curse upon him. And it's not as though he isn't able to die just like any other human; just in that in his case, he needs to die seven times within fifteen minutes, which as we've already been shown can be achieved quite easily by the right person. As long as he still has the possibility of death residing within him, he still has a choice in the matter and thus, from my perspective, still holds an important piece of what it means to be human within him.

Now while this is just my personal view, I believe you may be placing a bit too much value in a purist notion of humanity with respect to Taito.

When all's said and done, I'm still at a loss to understand why you believe what Himea did to Taito was such a bad thing. From my POV, it's because she cared about him so much that she granted him her power in order to become strong and survive in the 'world' that he's now involved in; granted, in order to fulfill her selfish desire of wanting to be with him. But as I've said, what's so wrong in wanting to seize happiness that's right in front of you?
Let's leave it at what you mention because your view is of the acceptance kind while mine revolves around a different notion like you mention. I will add the following:

Your POV it's more of that Himea cared for him because he was the first to show emotional piety for her. A deep feel sorry. We also don't know what happened to Taito to make him that sad that day so that I am missing to make a complete assessment but it's obvious that despite Taito can die, he seems to use more his power which robs him of his humanity since anything "Himea is going to die" and he does not mind using it even if it kills him as see in last episode.

So point being is love is blind and once you get dragged in you may never be what you were ever. In regards to that I feel bad for Taito because unlike Gekkou, he is bound to Himea and who knows if he dies when Himea dies. Servants are sometimes like that too.

And that is all.

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Yumekichi11 said:
Let's leave it at what you mention because your view is of the acceptance kind while mine revolves around a different notion like you mention. I will add the following:

Your POV it's more of that Himea cared for him because he was the first to show emotional piety for her. A deep feel sorry. We also don't know what happened to Taito to make him that sad that day so that I am missing to make a complete assessment but it's obvious that despite Taito can die, he seems to use more his power which robs him of his humanity since anything "Himea is going to die" and he does not mind using it even if it kills him as see in last episode.

So point being is love is blind and once you get dragged in you may never be what you were ever. In regards to that I feel bad for Taito because unlike Gekkou, he is bound to Himea and who knows if he dies when Himea dies. Servants are sometimes like that too.

And that is all.


As a finale to this brief, but enjoyable discussion on my end, let me just say that I don't feel sorry for Taito as I believe he's doing what he wants to do in protecting Himea. As one who harbors an honest desire to grow stronger in order to protect something important to him; regardless of what happens to his body, he's still a human in every way that really matters, IMO.

As to whether or not he'll die when and if Himea dies... well, that's a discussion for another time, and one a long ways off. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

As people who hold fundamental differences in our opinions, naturally we will never see things in the same light. ...Still, this was fun in its own way. It's nice to be able to argue with someone whose opinions are quite a bit difference from my own.
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Well 6/10 for me Himea Taito Haruka moment in class was nice.

I fell strange why Himea watch Taito die two time in rain but don't take him in building but she just wait to the him.
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Well 6/10 for me Himea Taito Haruka moment in class was nice.

I fell strange why Himea watch Taito die two time in rain but don't take him in building but she just wait to the him.


Yeah I also thought it was strange he wakes up and she is all "Yeah you died 2 times" she should of dragged him to safety or something. She also watched him get killed by the bug and didn't seem to mind. I doubt she would even care if the bugs started eating the other students (which was the bugs original intentions as she mentioned casually.)
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