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Jul 1, 2011 7:08 AM

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The end of the episode was a bit obviously, that was Cordelia and not Victorique. I really want to know if Cordelia will die and Kujo and Victorique will reunite again.
Jul 1, 2011 10:03 AM
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so am i the only person who started applauding when albert got what was coming to him, even though i too thought he deserved worse?
Jul 1, 2011 12:19 PM

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Cordelia is a ninja! did you see her moves? i think this is a strange anime, i am finding it hart to follow, like why are there two of those red haired guys? hmmmm
Jul 1, 2011 2:12 PM

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Am I like, the only one who isn't absolutely loving this show or something? O_O
K first off, I'm pretty sure WW2 doesn't start in 1925. I'm pretty sure it starts in 1939. So, uhm, yea, mega fail much O_O
Albert randomly takes over because Leviathan tricked him? O_O Uh, OK. Sure. He became Prime Minister and died the same day? Uh, wtf, OK. Lol. About the battle, I don't see why they just would RANDOMLY MAKE BRIAN A TWIN. I MEAN LIKE WTF SRSLY O_O The fight scene was pretty cool, EXCEPT THEN EVERYONE DIED. Cordelia, Albert, and the GRANNY? Did Brian die too? Too confusing, way too rushed. Don't really see how killing everyone is supposed to make Cordelia likeable, if that's what she's going for. Or maybe it's the whole I'll sacrifice everyone for you thing. Dunno :S
That being said, uhm, evil Brian tries to kill Victorica. Although obviously it doesn't work. Dur. Kind of stupid, does he have no brains? Obviously Cordelia's gonna hate him after, but she's dead now. Oh dear.
PLUS, OKAY, THE WHOLE ROMANTIC THING IS JUST TOO BORING NOW. STOP SPINNING IT OUT, GOD. Less Kujo in this episode was good, so was less Victorica, but STILL. UGH. I DUNNO. Plus they kind of ruined Grevil too
So much for hoping it would get better in the later episodes. Pretty much no expectations for the finale now -_-"
Jul 1, 2011 11:48 PM

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AnvilMAn said:
so am i the only person who started applauding when albert got what was coming to him, even though i too thought he deserved worse?

No your not I thought he was a huge dick this entire series and it was about time someone put him in his place.

I don't like Kujo's hair I liked it when it was longer and not army cut. Dx
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Jul 2, 2011 9:07 AM

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oh shizzle that was an amazing episode.
Jul 2, 2011 10:13 AM

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I'm kinda confused.

Why is there a war happening?? Albert took control of the people with just the Monstre Charmant tale?? O_o

Plot aside, badass cordelia is badass. I bet she's a ninja. :D

Last ep to go..
Jul 2, 2011 6:01 PM

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I'm going to agree with everyone else here. I liked Kujo's hair long also Cordelia is bad ass.
Jul 2, 2011 6:15 PM
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Daidragon1990 said:
I'm going to agree with everyone else here. I liked Kujo's hair long also Cordelia is bad ass.
badass dead chick
Jul 2, 2011 8:07 PM
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ItsSoPringles said:
Daidragon1990 said:
I'm going to agree with everyone else here. I liked Kujo's hair long also Cordelia is bad ass.
badass dead chick

I'd be afraid of my mom if she could pull off those moves. But then again it'd be fun dodging her when I rebel. :P
Jul 2, 2011 10:05 PM

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Dude, didn't know Cordelia was that agile. She has the talent to become a ninja.
Jul 3, 2011 11:08 AM

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-Quasar said:
Dude, didn't know Cordelia was that agile. She has the talent to become a ninja.

You mean a Jedi Master lol.

Alternate history much? I don't recall WW2 starting in 1924-1925....
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Jul 4, 2011 11:17 AM

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OMG what did I just watch? It's a shonen anime now and... it's pretty awesome to be honest. ^_^
Jul 4, 2011 8:28 PM
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Lolz... Cordelia has ninja skills? WTF? o_O
Jul 6, 2011 12:24 PM

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Everything was going well until the battle between Cordelia and Albert. That was sudden and unexpected. I would never have thought that Cordelia knows how to fight. o.O And then few minutes after fight is over... The last scene with Cordelia falling over and saying "Burn fire. Burn and lighten her future." was so touching! If I had more time I would certainly have cried over Cordelia's death but that was way too sudden.
Jul 7, 2011 7:14 AM

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I started liking this episode when I heard Cordelia's voice through that mic. <3

I do hope she's not yet dead, though. ;~;
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Jul 12, 2011 1:00 AM

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Dark Episode. You know for a anime with a lot of talk they have some good fight scenes.
Jul 17, 2011 6:50 AM

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Cordelia is a ninja! That's some awesome moves there.

Finally that asshole got killed, way to go Cordelia. Why did she wait until now is what i don't get. She knew the guy was no good long before. I can't believe she couldn't find a way to kill the guy long before that.

Leaving Victorique with the Roscoe that hates her was a stupid move. Both Roscoes love Cordelia so anyone could have fought along side her. So why didn't she take that crazy Roscoe with her instead of the most calm one and leave him with Victorique?
Jul 22, 2011 12:06 AM

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Fire! Damn, Cordelia is sure badass.
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Jul 22, 2011 9:30 AM

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Cordellia!! NuOOOOO!

And by the way, what the hell? Where the hell did Cordellia learn those moves. Now I know where all the damn Yoda comments came from. Personally, I would have much preferred it if she could have lived and tossed his broken, but living body into the fire.

Nothing left to do now except for hold my breathe and wait for the eventual ending. Come on Gosick, don't fuck me over like so many anime have done before. Don't do it!

Jul 23, 2011 5:51 AM
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this anime went downhill from 8 to 3, I can''t bellive it's possible to ruin anime and make it such a joke
Jul 23, 2011 5:58 PM
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lol Cordelia is good at fighting eh o___O

Maybe she really did became stronger now than before and since she once was a dancer so she can do some acrobatic moves and use it on her fight.

Maybe she can before too, but she was chained so ...dunno

But yeah it would have been better if Brian was the one who fought with Albert since it looks so Corny to see Cordelia fight that way hehe.

Kujo's hair was so bad err...
Jul 28, 2011 4:10 PM

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We were rewatching the series this past weekend and a couple of people made an observation. Did Cordelia take fighting classes from Master Yoda? I had Star Wars Episode 2 flashbacks throughout the fight sequence.
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Jul 29, 2011 1:32 AM

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This show....I swear it was fantastic at some point, then it just got chaotic and way too dramatic.

This is what I saw:
-They introduce Brian #2 who turns out to be a murdering psycho.
-Kujo shaves his head and gets beat to a pulp because of a ring. What a dork.
-Grevil seems to constantly hint at character growth yet never happens. He is still stuck as a tool.
-A bunch of old people with super-human speed wearing masks possibly kill off major characters.
-Sauville had an embarrassing pink bunny rabbit cult/army.
-Cordelia must have been taught by Jet Li's grandfather on lessons of kicking ass.

Sorry but this show went from a 10/10 anime to a silly, overly dramatic piece of non-sense the past couple of episodes. The ending better deliver.
Aug 2, 2011 10:56 PM

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This has gotten really strange. Mr. Propaganda de Blois vs. Obi Wan Cordelia showdown. There's Bioshock splicers and one of the Brians is going psycho. Then there's little ol Kujo as a soldier getting pounded on over a ring. WTF?!

I think I will wait till tomorrow to watch the ending.
Aug 2, 2011 11:01 PM

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TowardsTheStars said:

Cordelia is clearly Yoda
Aug 24, 2011 1:51 AM

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That was very nicely done, intense climax!
Nooo Cordelia better not die, one Brian is dead(?) and the other is losing it too >.<

Hah Kujo looks weird with his haircut xD
Sep 8, 2011 5:42 PM

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choyos said:
I wouldn't say Cordelia is 100% dead.. is likely that she actually survives with a pretty nasty scar.
I mean... wishful thinking hurts no one >.>

I do believe both Roscoes will be dead by the end of the anime.

i'm pretty sure if that didnt kill her, the fire will, so if she survives, her hair would all be burnt

Tenrag said:
For me end of this ep was something like:
- Fu*k yeah! Victorique escaped.
- Fu*k no! why Roscoe want to kill Victorique?
- Fu*k yeah!, finally that rapist got what he deserved.
- Fu*k no! Why she had to sound like dying. (it could have been that guy's blood, not her)
- Fu*k yeah! It's not over even though normally thinking that would be last ep. There is hope that they will be together again in last scene. If yes that would be 10/10 from me.
- Fu*k no! It can end like: "They didn't met after that but their hearts were connected forever." if so that would be 9/10 from me.

I just love those sinusoidal plots. :P

Extermely enjoying this series and hope that will enjoy last ep as well.

i know there was a hell of a lot of action this episode
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HawthorneKitty said:
Kujo... I don't like you anymore simply because of your hair.

lol yea, it doesnt fit him at all D:

lol so true

Nov 10, 2011 4:50 PM

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Cordelia sure knows how to fight. I hope she survived by the end of this series. And both Brian probably be dead when this series ended....hopefully there's no 3rd Brian suddenly appeared =)

I have no comment on Kujo's new hairstyle...
Feb 7, 2012 7:31 PM

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So Cordelia can fight? Heh..
I laughed everytime Kujo he now in Japan or China?

Please, Cordelia. I don't want you dead.

Sorry for being stupid but I really am lost here. How did this war break out again?
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Apr 10, 2012 5:12 PM
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so what was up with the ninja grandma anyways?
May 10, 2012 7:33 AM

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I have nothing to say, there was simply too much win in this episode
I was left speechless by the awesomeness...
May 23, 2012 7:08 AM

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last half of the episode = so much win
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Jun 7, 2012 3:13 PM

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Cordelia's rampage was awesome.
Jul 3, 2012 3:31 AM

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Fucking Kujo has different hair!

But I don't understand something. Why do they prepare for the war in 1925?
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Aug 11, 2012 10:07 PM

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Oh god, this anime is defying logic. LOL Making fires appear randomly, fighting with 3293 pounds of long blonde hair keeping you down, fighting in FIRE LOL

Obviously Vic's gonna survive the Brian 2# :P

I loved this episode actually. Pretty epic.
I'm glad that the evil Blois dude died but I didn't want Corde to die too :(
Why are Cordelia and Brian so badass?! Victorique and Kujo are so boring compared to them. ;/

Kujo's haircut. Ew. ._.


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Oct 21, 2012 9:17 AM
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brian 2 can go f himself, after all cordellia has done for her daughter he thinks the best thing to do is kil her? T_T. also it seems that all he wants to do is blame someone for being born, wtf like its victorique's fault that she was born.=, hate it when that happens in anime.
Feb 8, 2013 9:57 AM
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Let me get this straight Brain #1 Killed a bunch of people (Or was that the Bombs) then gets beat by a granny
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Feb 13, 2013 12:36 PM

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Ok, what the actual hell with Victorique's father biting her ear??
On he other hand, very valiant character, that Cordelia.
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Mar 11, 2013 3:27 PM

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Kujo and Victorique have to kiss when they meet again.........

Probably my favorite episode yet. Since it's so sad
Apr 8, 2013 9:12 PM

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shit escalated in a pretty shitty way.
in the grand scheme of things - this tiny country - if it had joined Germany, wouldve burned to the grounds anyway, so meh. and this albert guy has a few screws loose. honestly, what's with all the rabbit shit. imagine 100 people in rabbit costumes, i wouldnt even be able to help but laugh -- let alone give a grandslam speech.
Jul 16, 2013 2:50 AM
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holy flying fuck
Dec 9, 2013 12:35 PM

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So good episode, and a so sad ending of the episode.
Jan 31, 2014 7:26 PM

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This episode has easily been the best so far because Cordelia got over 20 seconds of air time. Cordelia was absolutely awesome! I'm really really sad she's gone now and I still don't get the double Brain Rosco thing. The music and lighting and everything was just perfectly done.

Bald Kujo? Oh hell no....

Did anyone else pause at the maze, found the route to Vic's house and think 'no wonder that girl can eat so many sweets'.
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Mar 26, 2014 3:22 PM

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Damn... so much happened...

I'm happy Marquis will finally die (though he deserved a much more painful death).
Brian attacks Victorique out of misery, great... Though I doubt she dies.
I had a feeling that it's going to be Cordelia in that dress (especially after the prevous scene when someone entered the Victorique's room and since her face was hidden).
Cordelia is badass, but damn I don't want her to die :( (I mean she still has a chance, but she is probably going to die).
Kujou got his hair cut, he looks so weird :S
Btw, it looks like a lot of people died in that explosion/fire, it's gonna make it look like a terrorist attack from Cordelia. They didn't really explain why Marquis was bad :/ (Though it's possible that Cordelia is going to be believed to be the Charming Monster and thus her action be treated as the right thing to do)

I really wonder how they are going to wrap this up. I'm hoping for a happy ending (I could understand a sad ending, but fuck you, they deserve a happy ending together after the so much shit that happened...)
I also kind of hope that Kujou will have a heroic moment (I really don't want him to just meet Victorique and that's it).
I'm still hoping for a helpful Grevil (unlress he already helped them switching places). I'm pretty sure he is going to turn good in the end.
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Mar 27, 2014 6:41 PM

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Cordelia Kicking ass and taking REVENGE on a silver platter...but... dammit this episode. sadly i think its safe to say Cordelia is most likely dead alongside Roscoe twin #1. speaking of Roscoe Twins i get they both love Cordelia but WTF it doesn't entirely make sense as to why he wants to kill Victorique. I mean sure he doesn't want Cordelia to cry no more and want's to stop this BUT he must have known that this plan was ultimate suicide for Cordelia.ALSO why would think Cordelia would want this!ugh Roscoe twin #2 why! now onto Kujo i wont lie if i didn't hear his voice i wouldn't have thought that was him(this isn't entirely true) but damn i love Kujo takes a hard ass beating from his prick of a commanding officer for that ring. i'm really happy they didn't turn him into a wimpy male lead. 5/5 this episode and if it ends well i'm thinking i may have another 10 on my hands.(hell i love it so much i may favorite as well though this remains to be seen).
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Apr 30, 2014 7:35 AM
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Wooah, things have suddenly changed into high gear. Kujo is in the Japanese military now and he's getting beat up :(

With Kujo gone, poor Victorique is all alone as well, but at least she managed to escape that deranged father of hers. Seriously, what kind of sicko licks his daughter's face and rapes her mother?

I'm so glad Cordelia got revenge on him but I didn't want her to die ;_; Don't parents have an obligation to live and look after their children? Why do they throw their lives away so easily >:(

And WTF Brian? Why are you trying to kill Victorique? I think he's finally snapped and he picked the worse time to do so.
Aug 26, 2014 1:38 AM

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Sep 17, 2014 12:09 PM

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Well, everything goes wrong!
All those characters dying : Cordellia, Brian Roscoe, probably Jupiter Roger. Those in despair : Victorique, Grevil, the King. Those who are send for a cold death at war, Kujo. I just can't see a happy ending. With that distance, that vision of a reunion seem so far away...

I wasn't expecting Cordelia to appear out of nowhere like that. She's a damn ninja, pulling out those crazy moves, like those two ugly grandmas. I'm glad that she was able to kill Albert from her own hands, she got her revenge against the man who tortured her. She destroyed her dream and his pride.

So Victorique ultimate utility was to use her as a mass gatherer. He kind of wanted to manipulate people like Hitler did, but not with speech and charisma, just with the promise of a victory from a non-existing monster.
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Jan 11, 2015 2:45 AM

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This whole series was meh for me but this episode was really really good!
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