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Jun 24, 2011 6:12 PM
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Jun 24, 2011 6:20 PM

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DrHouse said:
I don't know what everyone's problem is with the ending. Kimimaro returns to all the places that were important to him before moving on. A thematically appropriate ending with closure, if nothing else.
Oh no no! Not closure. Here are my points:
  • Masakaki says that the financial district is intact.
  • Masakaki offer to Kimimaro that he can knock at his door. Meaning he can come back to the FD.
  • Masakaki planning to take futures from the future returned by Kimimaro. In other words the press takes a huge chunk of a country's future but Masakaki is limited to people's future only.
  • There is a new setup done with Kimimaro returning a future.
This totally screams a second season. Totally!

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Jun 24, 2011 6:41 PM

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disapointed realy i had higher hopes yet it got cut into a half season anime quite a let down

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Jun 24, 2011 7:26 PM

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WTF!!

Seriously disappointed with the ending.
A lot of unanswered questions. Like who the hell was Kimimaro's dad? Was Masyu actually Kimimaro's future? Wasn't she supposed to be like Kimimaro's daughter or something?

This series would have been a lot better if it was 24-26 episodes. I really do hope they make an explanatory OVA or something.

Overall I liked the series, but the ending made me downgrade the score to an 8.
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Jun 24, 2011 7:38 PM

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I dont get it. So i have been reading some comments, and so Kimimaro is a ghost like form now?... toatally did not get it.
 
Jun 24, 2011 7:41 PM

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Disappointed. Confused.

Last few episodes and this ending made me w.t.f.
 
Jun 24, 2011 7:55 PM

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This in regards to people wondering about Mikuni's disappearance:

Mikuni is stuck in between reality and the present that was not changed. In other words he is stuck in between dimensions. He clearly said that he wanted to live in the now unchanged. The only way to do that is to live in a alternate space where things are as they were. Problem is none of it is reality.

Mikuni may also have dissipated because if you cannot live in the present now then you cannot live at all for there is not present that was. It is only the now that Mikuni hates. Mikuni wanted to only live in the present that is not changed with his sister Takako.

That's the best I can explain there is no other explanation less he means the now as in trying to live in the changes present.
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I dont get it. So i have been reading some comments, and so Kimimaro is a ghost like form now?... toatally did not get it.
No he is not a ghost and he clearly lives in reality unlike Mikuni.

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Jun 24, 2011 9:19 PM

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wait what...it's over?
 
Jun 24, 2011 9:30 PM

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i felt this series needing more explanation on what was going on in the whole district and the whole Dad factor of kimimaro.
Anyway the amount that Kimimaro was fighting for at the end must of been huge to change everyones future like that. Although I do feel like he got the short end of the stick with not being able to be with the people he knew.
Overall to me this series was alright nothing that will raved about "in the future" I think.
 
Jun 24, 2011 9:44 PM

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Hey Can Some Please Explain The Ending Because Its Confusing Me:/
 
Jun 24, 2011 9:51 PM

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Here's a summary:

Yoga: "Oh hey Masakaki reverse money. Doesn't make sense, but screw the rules I have money."

Masakaki: "Ok lol"

God: "Sup Yoga, we just made you do this bullshit to improve humanity or some shit"

Yoga: "Oh cool lol"

Masakaki: "K so now Japan is saved and everyone has their futures brah"

Yoga: "Wait wtf nobody knows me"

Masakaki: "trololol, bro you bet on the future, so now you have no past and present. You still have your future so you can come back any time. The FD is still open bro."

Yoga: "Whatev dawg. I guess this means everyone has infinite future and money don't mean shit or somethin'"

Yoga: "Well if I learned shit during this I learned I should smile for the camera"
 
Jun 24, 2011 9:54 PM

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Yumekichi11 said:
This in regards to people wondering about Mikuni's disappearance:

Mikuni is stuck in between reality and the present that was not changed. In other words he is stuck in between dimensions. He clearly said that he wanted to live in the now unchanged. The only way to do that is to live in a alternate space where things are as they were. Problem is none of it is reality.

Mikuni may also have dissipated because if you cannot live in the present now then you cannot live at all for there is not present that was. It is only the now that Mikuni hates. Mikuni wanted to only live in the present that is not changed with his sister Takako.

That's the best I can explain there is no other explanation less he means the now as in trying to live in the changes present.
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I dont get it. So i have been reading some comments, and so Kimimaro is a ghost like form now?... toatally did not get it.
No he is not a ghost and he clearly lives in reality unlike Mikuni.

Are you part of the production team or something because I have no idea how you got all of that.

Just because he said he wants to live in the now all of a sudden he in some parallel universe? Other than what he said, which doesn't really explain much to begin with, there is nothing else that leads you to believe he is stuck in some other dimension.

What I took from that is Mikuni is going to live in the moment that is, meaning experiencing the moment he is in now (living in the present) and not worrying about the future or the past. Kind of like how people say live in the moment/the now. His whole thing was to preserve the present so what he said just goes along with his philosophy, doesn't show that he is trapped in another time or space from anyone else.
 
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Merciless said:
Yumekichi11 said:
This in regards to people wondering about Mikuni's disappearance:

Mikuni is stuck in between reality and the present that was not changed. In other words he is stuck in between dimensions. He clearly said that he wanted to live in the now unchanged. The only way to do that is to live in a alternate space where things are as they were. Problem is none of it is reality.

Mikuni may also have dissipated because if you cannot live in the present now then you cannot live at all for there is not present that was. It is only the now that Mikuni hates. Mikuni wanted to only live in the present that is not changed with his sister Takako.

That's the best I can explain there is no other explanation less he means the now as in trying to live in the changes present.
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I dont get it. So i have been reading some comments, and so Kimimaro is a ghost like form now?... toatally did not get it.
No he is not a ghost and he clearly lives in reality unlike Mikuni.

Are you part of the production team or something because I have no idea how you got all of that.

Just because he said he wants to live in the now all of a sudden he in some parallel universe? Other than what he said, which doesn't really explain much to begin with, there is nothing else that leads you to believe he is stuck in some other dimension.

What I took from that is Mikuni is going to live in the moment that is, meaning experiencing the moment he is in now (living in the present) and not worrying about the future or the past. Kind of like how people say live in the moment/the now. His whole thing was to preserve the present so what he said just goes along with his philosophy, doesn't show that he is trapped in another time or space from anyone else.
No you are right but this is your view in other words IMO and I gave out mines because the ending of Mikuni is precisely open interpretation. We cannot confirm your point either because we never Mikuni apply this philosophy and personally I don't think he wants to live in the reality that Kimimaro brought.

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Jun 25, 2011 12:25 AM

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Ending was interesting. I don't think kimimaro is a ghost or some entity not apart of the world because of the way masakaki was talking to him. But this definitely leaves a lot of loose ends for a season 2.
 
Jun 25, 2011 12:38 AM

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Endar said:
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IAlready said:
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where did you see the professor have his family back?
Remember the house that Kimimaro visited before he goes back to the park. Then the kids started coming out and when the kid look outside, Kimimaro already left. I mean who is the only person he's gonna visit except Hanabi, certainly that's the professors house.
Wait, if you look carefully you can see the face of the father (I assume) of the children, so why would it be the professors house? And that house is Hanabi's, right? What do those have to do with eachother?
I thought the same thing. "Wait, wasn't that Hanabi's house?". I don't know what the deal is. It could be lazy animation.
Considering that the name plate outside the gate says "Nagata", I... really have no idea who's house it is. It might be that Hanabi's name is in fact Nagata, and not Ikuta (which it is, according to MAL's character list). Or it's a complete stranger's house. That'd be a twist.
At least it's nigh impossible to misread it as Ebara at least, so it shouldn't be the professor's house.

And I guess it's possible that someone's already come to that conclusion on the following two pages, but I didn't see any post like that, so whatever.
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Jun 25, 2011 12:45 AM

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It's the professor's house. One of the subs had a mistake.
 
Jun 25, 2011 1:04 AM

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Considering that the name plate outside the gate says "Nagata", I... really have no idea who's house it is. It might be that Hanabi's name is in fact Nagata, and not Ikuta (which it is, according to MAL's character list). Or it's a complete stranger's house. That'd be a twist.
At least it's nigh impossible to misread it as Ebara at least, so it shouldn't be the professor's house.

And I guess it's possible that someone's already come to that conclusion on the following two pages, but I didn't see any post like that, so whatever.

It's Hanabi's house. Or should I say the-Hanabi-from-the-reality-Kimimaro-once-knew. That Deity (oh geez...) said the world is totally different now. And it indeed is. So, 2 possibilities as I see it:
- the house belongs to some other random family now, not Hanabi's. (And it's not Ebara's, because it's really inpossible to mistake 長田 (Nagata) for 江原(Ebara)).
- it's Hanabi's family house, it's just that Hanabi's so changed due to Kimimaro's actions that even her last name changed (from 生田 to 長田). It also might be that the caregiver is the new very changed Hanabi, but also it might be that it was not her and the Hanabi of this reality exists somewhere, in different city or something.

Either way, it seems her and Kimimaro never met in this reality.
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Jun 25, 2011 1:07 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
Ovindel said:
I don't understand you completely.
First, Masakaki said that the girl that was caretaker of those children lookie like Hanabi but wasn't her. Am I right?
It is her simply because of that beauty point she has in the spoiler
Any more questions?

But that means what Masakaki said to Kimimaro could be not true?
 
Jun 25, 2011 1:27 AM
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For once, when two characters part, i like how it ends. "C" left a lot of questions unanswered... like what happened to Kimimaro's dad(and the book thing), and who Mashu represented... what happened once the financial district collapsed... etc.

There isn't really any sound evidence as to who she was, or why she was similar to his father's asset.

"C" should continue, and i hope that they do continue. It could handle more exploration, and explanation and a few more episodes per season.
 
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Ovindel said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Ovindel said:
I don't understand you completely.
First, Masakaki said that the girl that was caretaker of those children lookie like Hanabi but wasn't her. Am I right?
It is her simply because of that beauty point she has in the spoiler
Any more questions?

But that means what Masakaki said to Kimimaro could be not true?
Yeah because he mentions a little something called "I was thinking what you may be thinking" idea. Masakaki is a manipulator. I would not trust anything he says other than FD stuff.
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Oosran said:
Considering that the name plate outside the gate says "Nagata", I... really have no idea who's house it is. It might be that Hanabi's name is in fact Nagata, and not Ikuta (which it is, according to MAL's character list). Or it's a complete stranger's house. That'd be a twist.
At least it's nigh impossible to misread it as Ebara at least, so it shouldn't be the professor's house.

And I guess it's possible that someone's already come to that conclusion on the following two pages, but I didn't see any post like that, so whatever.

It's Hanabi's house. Or should I say the-Hanabi-from-the-reality-Kimimaro-once-knew. That Deity (oh geez...) said the world is totally different now. And it indeed is. So, 2 possibilities as I see it:
- the house belongs to some other random family now, not Hanabi's. (And it's not Ebara's, because it's really inpossible to mistake 長田 (Nagata) for 江原(Ebara)).
I would think that is more the possibility because of the change that occurred.
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- it's Hanabi's family house, it's just that Hanabi's so changed due to Kimimaro's actions that even her last name changed (from 生田 to 長田).
I could also think she may have gotten married but I am not sure from the looks of that family living there.
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It also might be that the caregiver is the new very changed Hanabi,
I doubt she is that much changed but clearly there may have been a time that passed that made Hanabi progress with her studies and become what Kimimaro saw her as.
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but also it might be that it was not her and the Hanabi of this reality exists somewhere, in different city or something.
I don't think so since most likely the Hanabi Kimimaro knows would work in the city where the teacher would be closest as to ask him about advice but in general this one is the less likely I would go for as a theory.
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Either way, it seems her and Kimimaro never met in this reality.
That may also be but it would have been nice that Kimimaro would have finished saying her name to see her reaction.

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Jun 25, 2011 2:40 AM

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I now love Msyu 40 times more than usual. :3
 
Jun 25, 2011 3:05 AM

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The fight was nice to watch, but the show overall was just... :|
 
Jun 25, 2011 3:33 AM

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Awesome ending to a meh series...

7/10.
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Jun 25, 2011 4:07 AM

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That was lovely
 
Jun 25, 2011 4:14 AM

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Great ending.
I still feel bad for Kimimaro because he had to sacrifice everything for the future, But he still was happy.
Some things were not that clear. But [C] is an anime that makes you think twice before you get anything.
And I think that english song was out of place.

Anyway:
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I thought it was an amazing end, definitely the best anime of the Spring season.
All the characters were intriguing and plot and concept it revolved around was executed in a fantastic way.

Entertaining all the way to the end, I will give it a 10.

10/10
 
Jun 25, 2011 6:35 AM
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when he said I should of smiled, and they both said to the future, I got depressed and sad :(
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A sentence to describe C:

Started off great, or rather perfect, but wrapped up quite badly :/
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Jun 25, 2011 8:12 AM

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This last episode disappointed me. :/
 
Jun 25, 2011 8:31 AM
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What was left out of the ending was how Kimimaru's father managed to go bankrupt and Kimimaru is still here.


I thought maybe Kimimaru's father might have passed on his asset to someone. Since Jennifer passed on her asset Gorges to Kimimaru she ended up returning to Japan, so perhaps her future was intact, but she didn't actually kill herself in the real world as far as we know. (although hard to say she was gone in the real world, her soul might have returned).

I never had the impression Kimimaru was a ghost. I thought he would wander at one place and move to another which is why the kid felt he saw someone but was no longer there anymore. The house he saw did not appear to be anyone he knew. Even the professor, there's no evidence he's still alive since he did die in the real world. Even if Ebara's kids were still alive, it does not mean Ebara himself has returned to life.
 
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Here I try to tackle the symbols in the final episode of C, as well as the philosophy of hope evoked by Kimimaro. It was a good run.
 
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The ending seemed a little lacking, considering the build up of the story was so thorough. I think they could've ended differently to appease the empty feeling i got afterwards. I will remind myself to watch the episode midway through til he won, then stop right there and use imagination to piece together the rest of it.
 
Jun 25, 2011 11:09 AM

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Ending was utter bollocks "m8".
 
Jun 25, 2011 1:57 PM

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Those people who is mindfucked about ending, just drop it.

I mean, you won't know the truth since the anime didn't tell us anything about it -_-;;

All these theories and ideas of what happened after is just a guess and its up to you guys whether to believe it or not.

Or more importantly, we can wish for 2nd season to come out and answer all the the questions that people are asking right now...

Thus, don't rate this series bad just because you were mindfucked. I mean, I'm mindfucked as well and I've read several other forums in regarding to get some answers though everything were guesses.

 
Jun 25, 2011 2:55 PM

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Series was meh from the start, ending no exception.
 
Jun 25, 2011 3:28 PM

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Yumekichi11 said:
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Yeah... Hanabi is really a lose end in this whole series. We hardly know anything about her and we never got a concrete explanation as to why she was depressed.
Yes we do know but it was spoon fed like a direct conversation with Kimimaro that they could have put to explain to us her depression or like the time he came to her place.
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All we know about her is

If I missed something, please let me know.
Mostly all this and that she has strong values of saving money and spending it. Her boyfriend may be nameless but we do know he is rich.
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Now we got the first four of those in the first episode. So yeah, her character was never really explored.
No it was not explored sadly and I wished her boyfriend may have had a FD influence or that she herself would join FD to make some WTF situation at Kimimaro but sadly none got there. Hanabi was essentially a support character for Kimimaro that had nothing to do with FD and was a same school buddy for Kimimaro.


Oh yeah, forgot about the implication about her boyfriend being loaded. Thanks.

Probably. I would have liked to see her in a more direct role in the FD or her boyfriend be an entre. It is actually possible that he was, but we never saw him. I mean, we don't know if the FD has a member list that entre's can see. They might have that because you could pick an opponent for deals, but we do not know.

I guess I just wanted more out of her in this series.

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That may also be but it would have been nice that Kimimaro would have finished saying her name to see her reaction.

Yeah that would have helped. Because he just said "hana" which is flower. That is kind of a word you would expect to hear in a park.

And Masakaki is definitely not trustworthy. He doesn't even true his counterparts from other FDs.
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Series was meh from the start, ending no exception.


exactly

 
Jun 25, 2011 9:59 PM

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Ending... felt kind of... lacking? Hanabi was just there, suddenly the American female agent becomes a good guy, the guy who was a good guy became a bad guy, Msyu just disappeared with no resolution, and Masakaki just appears outta his ass once again? What the fuck
 
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Jun 26, 2011 1:40 AM

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rushed + convoluted. those are some words that describe this series.

d4n13lr0x said:
Ending... felt kind of... lacking? Hanabi was just there, suddenly the American female agent becomes a good guy, the guy who was a good guy became a bad guy, Msyu just disappeared with no resolution, and Masakaki just appears outta his ass once again? What the fuck


i agree with most of that. it had potential & some excellent moments... but they just weren't executed.

6/10.
 
Jun 26, 2011 4:57 AM

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Could have been better.

Masakaki turned from intriguingly creepy to a character that felt forced, especially when the other Masakakis were revealed. The battles were odd from the start - what with the Engrish and those jargon. But it really started to get bad when Kimimaro suddenly completely followed everything the lollipop-sucking lady told him to do.

Not something I'd recommend to anyone.
 
Jun 26, 2011 6:14 AM

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C is the worst show of the season. Not only that this show is boring but it is also unable to answer its own questions.

What I got is "Actually, we are building a better future for you so please just sit there quietly and STFU or replay the game "


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Jun 26, 2011 1:02 PM

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In the end this show was a big fuss over nothing. At least that's what i felt because nothing really made sense. No i don't mean i have trouble following it i just had trouble accepting what was shown and they hardly explained any of the dark spots of the plot.

I can't give a high mark to an incoherent plot like this. It just seemed like it was trying to say or show us something but completely failed on doing so. In the end the whole concept failed to rise-up as an inspiration method of storytelling.
 
Jun 26, 2011 1:07 PM

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Isn't Masho his future daughter? Isn't that kinda wrong? I liked the kiss on the forehead better... oh well. Then ending was super rushed imo but the fighting was good at least.


 
Jun 26, 2011 3:03 PM

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Fuck. I can't. I can't describe my emotions right now. There are no words for what I'm feeling. That censored kiss. That fight. That ending.
 
Jun 26, 2011 3:22 PM

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Bollocks.
 
Jun 26, 2011 3:50 PM

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I once rated this series 9...

... and now it's down to 6...

WTH happened!? It started so good but then rushed and the plot went meh

I loved Trapeze but this... ugggggh what kind of ending is that!?
 
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Ended how I expected it too. In a way that most would not understand just like how the economy really is haha.

I was under the impression that this series was supposed to be 20 something episodes but was cut back due to lack of interest by the Japanese viewers (the ratings where bad). You can plainly see they had a lot more they wanted to do with the show but couldn't due to the cut back (ie. Yoga's Dad's book of numbers, Yoga and Msyu's relationship, Yoga and Hanabi's relationship, why yoga's dad's asset looked like Yoga's, what happened to Yoga's dad, who the god(s) of the FD are, Mikuni's future being saved thanks to him owning one of Msyu's 10 shares thus not losing all of his money in the end...etc).

With that said the ending made perfect sense. The future was saved but not the future Yoga was expecting. It's a future in which the FD had never existed, one where people where not effected by the depression. FD is still obviously there and will continue to suck up future only when more people join it and flood the world with it's currency again.

The ending was bitter sweet because Yoga's future was worse than his past. He started with nothing and ended with less yet saved everything. Future Hanabi, now Miss Nagata, is a kindergarten teach who we can guess has never met Yoga. Her old house is now owned by some other family (possibly relatives since they share the same name unless the subbing groups messed that up). Yoga is on his own in a world where most people may not even know him now. We have no idea if he has any money to his name or still has a place to live. All we know is he has a future and he's there and can witness what he saved.
 
Jun 26, 2011 5:31 PM

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mind fuck final ep
 
Jun 26, 2011 5:40 PM

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God I hate Noitamina and their 11 or 12 episode bullshit. Countless shows would've been good if they were longer.
 
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