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Jun 2, 2011 12:03 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Another excellent episode filled with emotions, revealing and a crazy ass end! As it looks from the following,

it's like "Financial District Apocalypse." Counter goes to zero, people all dissipating and assets are turning in money? WTF D: Sounds to me like some tentacle monsters showed and is eating up all the city with everyone into it less anyone can explain the tentacles going around the money counter. Masakaki is sure having his fun.

Kimimaro x Mashu could not have been visually showed nicer with a Mashu pose next to a Kimimaro being shown in black with his sephiroth diagram as follows,

find it absolutely pure as it shows what both people are while Kimimaro as a human is not exactly the real form in the Financial district, the mirror/portrait shows the true appearance. Also according to the following spoiler
Mashu may in fact be Kimimaro's future daughter. So the assets really do represent what future of a person's wishes, however the authors do realize if they make it a Mashu x Kimimaro it's like him falling in love with his future daughter.

I really find it totally screwed that people disappear such as Kimimaro giving back the kid his money then poof with the mom forgetting about the kid in the spoiler
that was screwed as I am thinking the kid was a collateral of someone's future. I mean Kimimaro gives the kid back his money and suddenly kid is gone with a woman for looks to be like his mom totally forgets he was there. WTF seriously.

I find Hanabi being sad was saddening and bitter as she threw out the drawing in the spoiler
nice sad drama that worked a lot on me because I appreciate Hanabi as a female character in this show.

Of course that information dealer had to be creepy in the spoiler
guess in the real world he does some kind of selling of balloons and food.
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Jun 2, 2011 3:08 PM

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This episode was indeed full of emotions, looking so forward for next episode.
Kimimaro is going try stop Mikuni so easy predict right now on this episode.

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Jun 2, 2011 5:37 PM

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Yumekichi11 said:

Mashu may in fact be Kimimaro's future daughter. So the assets really do represent what future of a person's wishes, however the authors do realize if they make it a Mashu x Kimimaro it's like him falling in love with his future daughter.


Heh, that's just what I though (but I don't think we'll see more romantic stuff 'bout those two... IMO)

And loved how the Financial District was destroyed wow! And yeah, it was very predictable from the beginning that Kimimaro and Mikuni would become enemies...
 
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Jun 2, 2011 5:39 PM

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Turb0_mugen said:
Yumekichi11 said:

Mashu may in fact be Kimimaro's future daughter. So the assets really do represent what future of a person's wishes, however the authors do realize if they make it a Mashu x Kimimaro it's like him falling in love with his future daughter.


Heh, that's just what I though (but I don't think we'll see more romantic stuff 'bout those two... IMO)
I hope not but last episode kiss thing does raise something up. Just my instinct based on the amount of anime I have seen.

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Jun 2, 2011 6:06 PM

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So the mikuni vs kimimaro showdown is starting now huh... I wonder how they're going to wrap this up in just 3 episodes left though :S
 
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Jun 2, 2011 6:06 PM

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finally this show has turned to be great 5/5
 
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Jun 2, 2011 6:14 PM

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Masakaki did say in an earlier episode he wasn't in charge of the District, right? Yet there he is, laughing like a man with power and in control of things. Haha, I don't really get it at all, to be honest, but I still like it. ^_^;;

I can only guess the District wasn't created by a single person or even an entire panel of people. It's more like an idea or a place that is simply there.
 
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Jun 2, 2011 6:27 PM

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all right I have no idea what is going on? somehow the district losing money causes people, and whole countries to vanish? actually I got the feeling Mashyu was his sister possibly? it sounded like she had a connection to his father.

I still don't see Mikuni as a bad guy. he wants to save the present while Kimimaro the future. briefly saw Hanabi but I'm not sure what her point is now. this just got really confusing and seems rushed.

I really wish this was 24 episodes instead of only 11....
 
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Jun 2, 2011 7:06 PM

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The pace is strange...
 
Jun 2, 2011 7:17 PM

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Interesting episode. That Mashu thing sounds interesting, but the idea of Mashu being Kimimaro's child seems a bit... Weird. I dunno, the future shot looked really awkward though, but I'm guessing that that was the point because that's how the future can be.

The people disappearing left and right was definitely really messed up. The way that people could just move on with the disappearance of their important people. Granted they don't remember those people but still. Eh.

And lastly Hanabi. Does she know what's going on? Or was she involved in the Financial District as well? o _o
 
Jun 2, 2011 7:31 PM

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I totally called Mashu being Kimimaru's future kid..assets are their "future" after all.
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Jun 2, 2011 8:36 PM
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Show got pretty interesting.
Blonde women mother + future daughter Mashu...I wonder who that blonde women is
 
Jun 2, 2011 8:37 PM

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It seems like C is revealing the truth gradually in this ep. and it's getting kind of weird (at least that's what I felt when watching it live-stream yesterday).
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Jun 2, 2011 8:41 PM

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The pace is strange...


Yah. This episode felt rushed... after a series of slow episodes...

This show is strange. I don't know what I think about it... either way... it's pretty original imo.

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I totally called Mashu being Kimimaru's future kid..assets are their "future" after all.


good call. awkward sexual tension last ep.... lol
 
Jun 2, 2011 8:43 PM
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Couldn't Mashyu be Kimimaro's lost sister who he never knew?
 
Jun 2, 2011 9:03 PM
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Mysu is Kimimaro's sister, how incredibly interesting.
Though, is that his future? Or lost future?
 
Jun 2, 2011 9:07 PM

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A future destroyed/dissipates before your very eyes, before you get erased out of existence as well of course........That's pretty fucked up. :/
 
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When I started this episode, my first thought was "Did I miss an episode? I don't remember it being like this."

By the end, I started to understand what was going on, but at the same time, I felt like I was supposed to care more than I did. Nowhere near a bad episode, but...I don't know, it felt like something was missing from the whole thing.

Also, lol random tentacles
 
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ptoss1 said:
Couldn't Mashyu be Kimimaro's lost sister who he never knew?
I though it was more his future daughter but judging from the women was portrayed it could have been his mother with his lost sister. Thing is that the depiction was very ambiguous. I am hoping for mroe clarifications in the future episodes.
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It seems like C is revealing the truth gradually in this ep. and it's getting kind of weird (at least that's what I felt when watching it live-stream yesterday).
That's strange I actually think it is revealing a message: that of money self destroying ourselves by us being ignorant once we have lots of money and that money in this way destroys society itself trough erasure, how that works looks like eventually all things will have a number value attached and not the pride we should have in making it, anyway it kind of hard to explain it psychophysically but this episode definitely has a message.

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Jun 2, 2011 9:53 PM

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Wow the truth about that world is finally coming out. Once a district is bankrupt, that place on the real world disappears. It appears that there's more to Mashyu than meets the eye.

 
Jun 2, 2011 10:16 PM
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I was really pulling for Mashyu x Kimimaro. If it ends up being the whole father daughter type relationship, this anime will truely go down hill. -_-
 
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I was really pulling for Mashyu x Kimimaro. If it ends up being the whole father daughter type relationship, this anime will truely go down hill. -_-
That's what I fear the most and lots of animes *cough* Yosuga no Sora *cough* did that.

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Jun 2, 2011 10:24 PM

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Serious jump in the story from the last couple of episodes looks like were nearing the climax.
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Jun 2, 2011 10:42 PM

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All the talk about trust in money made me think back to my economics class...
 
Jun 2, 2011 10:55 PM

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Too much midas spending in the Southeast Asian district or something? What would even cause a financial district to collapse like that?
 
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I can almost see a whole paranoia agent type ending here. Cause they keep talking about trust and stuff, so it's obviously a theme for the anime. And everyone is relying on the district for money, so clearly when everyone starts to lose money their hope and trust will start to diminish with it. When all that money's gone, its like they have lost everything (because it's a common belief that without money you can't survive) and so in turn they actually do lose everything. Just a theory, probably completely off though xD
Cant wait for the last three episodes to come out. I wish it was longer T_T
 
Jun 3, 2011 12:09 AM

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this was a good episode indeed! they have finally moved on with the storyline and into something more interesting.

hmmm. and i am more along the side of saying that mashyu might be kimimaro's sister, only because they gave a hint that mashyu was somehow involved with kimimaro's father.
 
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Blackbird said:
This episode was indeed full of emotions, looking so forward for next episode.
Kimimaro is going try stop Mikuni so easy predict right now on this episode.

It took you this long to figure out they were going to be enemies?

Anyway, neither Mikuni nor Kimimaros philosophy make any sense. This is just a strict shounen now to me.
 
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I still don't see Mikuni as a bad guy. he wants to save the present while Kimimaro the future.
i think it's different, mikuni is willing to sacrifice the future for the present
what kimimaru said i think means present and future both have to exist to mean something, you can't sacrifice one of them


unrelated. but why anytime someone doesn't understand a thing he/she says "it doesn't make sense"?? it's not "it" to don't make sense, it's "you" who can't make sense out of it :P
let's correct it:
"it doesn't make sense" => "i'm not understanding it now" or "it is difficult to understand it for me now" :3
not that i pretend to understand everything, it's only a matter of language form :P
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And suddenly, people start behaving strangely.
Totally randomly throwing a shoe from the rooftop. Okay.
So, judging by the Southeast Asian version of Masakaki, the Districts are more or less aiming to go bankrupt. Now, why? Is it really that fun making large cities and stuff disappear? Yeah, it is.
Oh well.

On another note, fuck yeah, Zelda Ocarina of Time 3DS commercial.
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Didn't really understand what's going on in the show, so in the end Japan didn't disappear because of what Mikuni was doing in a Defense fund? And with so much liquidity disappearing from the world (South East Financial District) does that mean the other districts are now worth more per dollar? Or is entropy going to just kill every financial district out there. =X Yea, I'm totally lost.
 
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I kind of understand what's happening but at the same time I'm a bit confused.
But I kind of get it more than I don't. Now I'm just confusing myself. Oh well ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌
But whatever's happening, I really like it. Hope this wraps up well in the last 3 episodes.
 
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Kimimaro's dream/illusion sorts like a hint as to why Mashyu is the personification of his future.

And I think Masakaki is hiding something from everyone in the FD.

Good ep.
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controlmajortom said:
Blackbird said:
This episode was indeed full of emotions, looking so forward for next episode.
Kimimaro is going try stop Mikuni so easy predict right now on this episode.

It took you this long to figure out they were going to be enemies?
No he was just mentionning that this episode got everyone spoon fed more on the Mikuni VS Kimimaro and what may lead to it. The OP is the obvious culprit, that everyone knows..
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Too much midas spending in the Southeast Asian district or something? What would even cause a financial district to collapse like that?
Bankruptcy but who played the cards on the deal is anyone's guess. They sure did a bad job of showing possible other worlds webbed into a web of financial districts. Logically the person who would do this is none other than a North American/USA financial. Probably Jennifer's boss may know something but so far we only know of one financial district. Maybe it has many sectors of each continent.

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Shit just got real :O

I really wonder WTF is that giant tentacled thing that destoryed part of the FD.....
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I kind of understand what's happening but at the same time I'm a bit confused.


Sums up my thoughts.
 
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Since everyone has pointed out important occurrences in the episode I thought about limiting myself to the appearance of the CMYK color model in the episode itself: magenta colors Jennifer's sephira, while cyan colors Kimimaro's. It's also notable that the Fool in tarot is highly similar to Masakaki, and is also an extremely powerful card. Hanabi's monologue translated, alongside some other thoughts of mine, can be seen here.
 
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I really wonder WTF is that giant tentacled thing that destoryed part of the FD.....

Cthulhu.
 
Jun 3, 2011 2:29 AM
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Masakaki did say in an earlier episode he wasn't in charge of the District, right? Yet there he is, laughing like a man with power and in control of things. Haha, I don't really get it at all, to be honest, but I still like it. ^_^;;


Haha, same here, he's Masakaki, after all...:P

A very good episode this time, I wonder what'll happen next...:)
It was good that a small thing was shown about Mashyu...
 
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Mashyu is Kimimaros daughter, spoilersssss. Every asset is directly linked to the entres life, be it past, future or present.
 
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I don't feel that Mikuni and Kimimaro would become enemies. They're on the same side, it's just that Kimimaro doesn't see what Mikuni sees.
Well, that's what I think
 
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Oh wow, so Mashu is actually Kimimaro's future daughter? Well it makes sense, with assets being their future and all.

South-East Asia went bankrupt, and the real-life country of Singapore is going with it. I wonder if they could save it somehow.

It's all about the trust. If you have the trust, you'll get the money. That sounds pretty accurate. Looking forward to the next one.
 
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ptoss1 said:
Couldn't Mashyu be Kimimaro's lost sister who he never knew?


I thought about this one. Maybe one of the consequences his father faced when he got bankrupt. Also, the informant said, Kimimaro's asset (Mashu) looks like someone he saw before. I don't think Mashu is his future daughter.

Heck, the sensei's asset has no visible connection to his lost children or whatsoever. Not saying it isn't possible but not buying it. (for now)
 
Jun 3, 2011 5:24 AM

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This show just doesn't make any sense.
 
Jun 3, 2011 5:47 AM

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Shit's about to hit the fan. Brilliantly execute ep, probably the single best ep of the whole anime season so far.
"Tonight, I sit in the eye of the storm. As fire boils around me, I press forward, winds and lightning lashing my wings. I am no match for what I face. Yet I will not back down, and though fear may place it's stranglehold on my heart, courage will see me through. With tears in my eyes, I hit full throttle. My engines become an inferno, and my weapons light up, awaiting my command.

If I die tonight, I will do so fighting for everything I believe in."


 
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So there's a lot of speculation on this show, so I'm just going to voice all my thoughts and opinions in one massive post xD. I might be wrong...so feel free to correct me if I am.

The counter in the financial district shows the real money being used, rather than the midas money. And so when all the money in a "district" has run out, it is completely supported by midas money, the money that takes the futures of the entire district and turns it into more midas money. Which they perhaps then feed into other districts.

I think Mashyu is Kimi's lost sister. As Quasar said: The informant said he'd seen her before, meaning she has either existed before or she was somebody elses asset. Perhaps she was his father's asset, representing his fathers future? Which would make you wonder why she's Kimi's asset now. Or maybe she has no relation to him at all!

There is obviously an impending battle between Mikuni and Kimimaro. The real question is who's right and who's going to win.

For anyone who says this show doesn't make any sense my initial explanation would make sense (unless you can correct me) One way or another the district started a long time ago, and as it grew larger by destroying cities and claiming their futures as midas money, the district was able to slowly encompass earth. Of course I can't see why anyone would WANT to do that, other than greed for power, or perhaps the destruction of humanity? Maybe the district is actually aliens...using our complex modern concept of economy to destroy us?

Anywho that's pretty much my thoughts for now. Again I could be wrong (I most likely will be...I never seem to "call" things in anime Q_Q) So I don't mind you disputing my theories, I look forward to it actually! :D
 
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this is awesome shit!
 
Jun 3, 2011 7:14 AM

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And society collapses. It's a bit weird that with the slow pace in the beginning the stakes are raised really fast now, but it also works a bit to suddenly show the scale of the problems caused by the Midas Money.
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Jun 3, 2011 7:17 AM

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Okay, it is kind of confusing, especially this huge plot lap, but one thing is clear from the beginning. Mashu is not Kimimaro's daughter. She's not his future. She is embodiment of his future. Probably future with daughter named Mashu but nothing more. It's kind of like the difference between water nymph and water... So please, stop with those weird innuendos...
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Wow, things went to Hell fast this episode! Things are truly dire, with the Financial District being apparently destroyed, Singapore possibly obliterated and apparently a huge chunk of the Nippon population as well. I have no idea what Mikuni plans to do about this disaster, but I'm sure it'll lead to the confrontation we've been waiting for from the OP.

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