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Apr 10, 2011 8:45 PM

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Kujo is such an M
Don't forget.
Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you.
As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
Apr 10, 2011 10:49 PM

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The slice-of-life, Victorica filled episode I've been waiting for. She was so damn cute and entertaining to look at, what with her ridiculous facial expressions...
Apr 11, 2011 3:52 AM
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double rainbow all the way!! what does this mean?????
Apr 11, 2011 7:19 AM

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Apr 11, 2011 11:53 AM

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Good to see some more backstory on Kujo. Looks like his brothers are kinda hopeless as well.

I lol'd at Cecil chowing down the whole cake while Victorique was stuck in the tree! :P
Victorque's lila summer dress was very pretty! Though I was actually getting quite annoyed by her tsundere-ness for the first time. At least she made up for it a little in the last scene. Good to see Kujo stayed though. At least now Victorique has someone to shout at. >.<
Apr 11, 2011 7:55 PM
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Double Rainbow
Also Victorique look so cute in purple
also this seemed kinda like filler, but at least it wasn't a bathing suit ep like the first few min made it seem, that really would not have fit this anime at all!
Apr 12, 2011 12:23 AM

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Victorique stuck on the tree......
Apr 12, 2011 12:38 AM

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Relaxing episode.
Apr 12, 2011 10:40 AM

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Kind of a boring episode, IMO.
The only interesting parts were about Kujo's family and his childhood.
And Victorique was rather annoying this episode.
Apr 12, 2011 1:41 PM

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Nice episode! I really liked the puzzles and Victorique was cute in the new dress XD
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Apr 13, 2011 9:56 AM
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lol some actually think that this ep is boring... well... actually i would rather have "boring" ep than having cases with cliche all over the place...
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Apr 14, 2011 2:12 PM

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Since when is Victorica a boy's name?
Apr 14, 2011 5:32 PM

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Horrible episode IMO. Got really excited about more Avril, then Kujo blows her how (that being said, yea, how can anyone think Victorica is a boy's name? -_-")
Victorica is a HORRIBLE person. Seriously. If someone comes to see you you don't SEND THEM AWAY AND BE LIKE CRIMES OR CANDY PL0X. Then if they give you candy you don't go OH THEY LOOK UGLY -_-" Plus if someone is helping you get down you DON'T FREAKING JUMP ON THEM. THEN GET STUBBORN AND SPILL TEA AND MAKE TROUBLE BECAUSE YOU'RE BEING "TSUNDERE". Is she even considered that? Why must you ruin characters like this? -_-"
Backstory of Kujo. He fears lightning. Lol @ his family, I like them a lot (better than our two main characters at least)
Finally Avril gets screen time? Hopefully more than like two minutes? Yea, hopefully
Apr 14, 2011 7:37 PM

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What kind of sensei eat a cake that is in a spot where apparently is someone? xD
Apr 14, 2011 10:35 PM

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I stated to hate Victorique for a sec in the beginning, I think i've been away from tsunderes for too long, because by the end I loved her again. Especially in that yukata

It seemed like dick move for Kujo to just leave Avril at the last minute at the train station, most people I know would get pissed

Also I'm loving Victorique's new summer outfit
Love & Piece

Apr 15, 2011 1:20 PM

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That was some pretty candy.
Apr 15, 2011 1:46 PM
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Yes. Very pretty candy indeed.

I liked this episode. I liked getting some backstory on Kujo.
Apr 16, 2011 12:15 AM

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Didn't find this boring. It's actually pretty entertaining the interaction between Kujo and Victorique with also a peek on Kujo's family and background.
Apr 16, 2011 1:28 PM
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I didn't like this episode compared to the others. Mainly because it felt like they're setting up for something romantic between the characters and I'm not much of a fan of the two together that way.

However, I did like the flashbacks to Kujo's childhood.
Apr 17, 2011 6:14 AM

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I love the relationship between them. :)
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
Apr 21, 2011 2:15 AM

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I must agree with OP.
Victorique's faces this episode were soooo cute~ :3
Apr 21, 2011 7:13 AM

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Usually I will say du du du dam. But I will skip that this time.
A heart-warming episode. Glad Kujo didn't go with Avril.
This is half season already, and with Mediterranean Sea, and beacj. Fanservice! We need that,
I randomly bought discount/second hand manga with cute/mysterious cover.
Apr 29, 2011 3:13 PM
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nice episode.... kujo in this episode isn't bed.....
Victorique is always moe, very moeeee, lots moeeeeeeeeee.....
This is a ggod intermediate point, now I would more information on Victorique's past....

next to 13th ep
May 14, 2011 8:34 AM

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This was a good filler episode. I loved the scene where the teacher ate the whole cake - it was very amusing!
I would have been so pissed if I was Avril though.....People like Kujo deciding not to go last minute annoy me.
May 17, 2011 2:01 PM

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I didnt get most of it but its cool some of the challenges

Behold of my awesomeness~
Jun 3, 2011 11:10 PM

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This episode was fantastic in regards to Kujo's sister Ruri as follows,

she was very adorable there and when she was older. From the looks of the following spoiler
Kujo had a father who did not like him going into hakki ball sports and scolded not only him but his mother. Still it was lovely to see his mom and Ruri's feet when she was a little girl. In the end seeing his family along with his 2 brothers in the spoiler
rings true to one being like a smart Watson type and the other being muscular. Hakki balls are cool BTW and I used to play it but was not so good. Regardless very good exercise.

The most I liked of Victorique from this episode is most certainly many elements but most of them is the following,

way too adorable yet angry and frustrated that she did not properly do that kimono. Should I say too proud to admit she failed at it. I liked her a lot when she was frustrated with opening the umbrella and when Victorique landed on Kujo in the spoiler
Victorique was very adorable when she was impressed with Kujo's climbing, when she pointed at him as he came back and fooled her predictions. The face she made when Kujo was reading her the letter from one of his brothers was priceless as well as poking Kujo with her umbrella for saying she looks like a kid in the spoiler
I must mention that all the facial expressions of Victorique are full of win in the spoiler
particularly the ones of her new dress.

  • Was really glad to see Avril with her blushing and enthusiasm in the spoiler
    as I did not see her sometime and really do like her as a side character.

  • Avril was very nice in her dress in the spoiler
    it looked adorable and had nice colors.

  • Even though she was not long around, while in the train her expressions of being surprised in the spoiler
    were much appreciated I will leave it at that.

BTW loved the pic at the end of the episode in the spoiler

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Jul 19, 2011 5:26 PM

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im loving this series so far! there's just a right amount of everything so far :)

i nearly died at victorique trying to serve kujo some tea haha.
Aug 6, 2011 2:42 PM

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Great ep ^^
Sep 7, 2011 4:23 PM

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i wouldnt want to eat that candy, it looks too good to just be simply gone becuz u "ate" it, lol
as a side note, i can't climb ANYTHING!!

Nov 6, 2011 9:08 AM

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Aurao said:
Since when is Victorica a boy's name?

My thought exactly. The character itself is a mystery in this anime.

Nice riddle by Kujo's older brother. Can't wait to try asking my friends to solve it in 3 seconds or get a spanky-spanky =)
Nov 21, 2011 10:35 PM

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Oh my gosh, this episode was so cute and sweet.
Jan 16, 2012 3:45 AM

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What a sweet episode! Victorique's purple dress is pretty cool. She was so cute wearing the kimono and carrying the tea. So determined!
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Apr 17, 2012 3:46 PM

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Lol what, the teacher ate the whole cake though it's Victorique's fault for not stopping her.
Aug 8, 2012 3:35 PM

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4/5 because I liked the Orange Cake and rose candy. I gotta learn how to bake that someday.

Her kimino was so cute. The bow was at the front lol
Pointless episode really. No mystery aspect. Just weird fluff and tsundere from Victorica. I'm starting to dislike her character. She's really mean to Kujo.

I was looking forward to the adventure with Kujo and Avril but noooo, he had to stay back. LOL


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Sep 8, 2012 4:28 PM
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i like how kujo was talking about how jaqueline was so oblivious to grevils love in the episode before this. and yet kujo didnt realize how much avril wanted him to go with her to meet her grandma in this one lol
Nov 7, 2012 5:54 AM

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I'd like to learn more about Kujo's sister...
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Mar 9, 2013 8:00 AM

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God damn it, I hate tsunderes
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Mar 10, 2013 10:24 PM

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Kujo, what the hell.
Why would you leave her in the tree just because she told you to go away?
You brought her a cake.
You don't have to listen to every command she says instantly.
You should've stayed there with the cake and climbed the tree to see her.

I suppose it was just for the plot to get where it needed to go, but still. Their relationship hasn't improved too much recently. They were holding hands in the first few episodes and she even slept on him.
May 27, 2013 6:34 PM
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I haven't watched the full episode yet, however, I have come upon the scene with the cake and the girl.

Animes are supposed to be somewhat illogical and suited to the viewer in their 'favor'. In several Animes, the form that individuals use to run is just outrageous. That among the same use of clothes all together is fine. It's an anime; it's supposed to happen.

HOWEVER, what pissed me off so much in this episode is how a girl notices an orange cake lying on a stack of books. She then proceeds to talk to herself asking is the owner here and mumbles more nonsense to herself. She then proceeds to eat the cake.

Who does that? Nobody in real life that I know does that. HIGHLY illogical to do that. If an individual spotted a cake on the ground they wouldn't walk up to the cake, talk to themselves for 10 seconds about where the owner is, and proceed to eat it. It does not make ANY sense whatsoever. In the real world, a person would either A) Not notice the cake at all, B) Look at the cake and do nothing. That is all to it. I don't know of anyone who goes up to an unattended cake and just eat it on the spot. Eating it all in 1 sitting was fine as this is an Anime and that's 'acceptable' for it to happen. But was there no logic in asking yourself what if the cake was drugged? Poisoned? Tampered with?

This is really a MINOR scene out of this episode but scenes that make completely no sense drop the rating of an anime for me.

EDIT: A few minutes after finishing this comment, I viewed a few more seconds after that scene. It turns out that she then takes the plate so that she can wash it and return it back. WHO DOES THAT? You were rude and ignorant enough to eat a cake that was found on the ground (Mind that she didn't even know if it was drugged, poisoned, tampered) and now she wants to wash the plate and return it? That kind of action is contradicting one's actions. Bad deed > Good deed (To make up for the bad deed). I don't even....

Because of this, I'm now going to rate this anime at a 7.5/10 of the original 8/10 I was going to give it. At least you could've made it more logical and realistic.

Modified by povveriess, May 27, 2013 6:41 PM
Jul 11, 2013 3:48 AM
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povveriess said:
Because of this, I'm now going to rate this anime at a 7.5/10 of the original 8/10 I was going to give it. At least you could've made it more logical and realistic.

lol? anyway, I think that teacher character is mostly just an air head and I dont think she has much more to offer than doing ridiculous and nonsensical things. A lot of animes have at least one character that is like this. I thought the seem was stupid funny but I wouldnt judge the whole show based on just that one incident. Besides, you would make Victorica angry, and you wouldnt like it when she is angry.
Jul 27, 2013 5:47 PM
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That teacher lady is not a human and is fat. She just ate that entire cake in 1 sitting. I can't even handle a 1/8 piece of cake.
Dec 9, 2013 7:51 AM

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Aahhh, what a relaxing episode.

Half way through the anime :(
Mar 21, 2014 7:01 AM

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Really good episode. Might be a filler in a way, but I as very happy for an episode full of great Victorique x Kujou chemistry :3
Also, I really like Victorique's new/summer clothes. The brighter colors fit her very well.

I'm so glad Kujou rejected Avril in the end, she's got no chance :D

The teacher can go to hell for eating someone else's cake >:(
Modified by RazielZero, Mar 21, 2014 5:06 PM
Apr 30, 2014 3:54 AM
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Well we asked for an episode with some character/romance development and we got one.

Thank goodness Avril was kept down to a minimum. No offence but I really like seeing Victorique and Kujo together.

@povveriess LOL, I just love reading your comments on these threads. You make note of every little illogical thing in the show. You're making it hard to like the show ^^

Noooo, don't give it a 7.5/10 just because of a silly cake scene xD
May 26, 2014 4:15 AM

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god how much of a bastard can Kujo be? changing his mind at the last minute.. think about Avril's feelings you SoB.
Duterte did 9/11
Aug 9, 2014 6:43 PM

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Victorique went full bitch mode this episode.

>chases Kujo off by calling him an idiot and telling him not to come unless he has gifts
>knows he was there to ask what she wanted to do for summer
>groans that he didn't stay there with her
>tsundere logic
>Kujo stays behind anyway

Sep 15, 2014 5:49 PM

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The two of them wearing oriental clothes.. :3
You're such a tsundere Victorique x)

That ending was cute. It's true that it's kinda sad that he only consider himself as the ''third son of a soldier''. It really weigh a lot on him, so that was cute from her to tell him to stop comparing to his brothers.
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Feb 15, 2015 6:22 AM

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Although I like the Kujo/Victorique pairing I actually felt kinda bad for Avril lol, changing his mind at the last minute was cold!

Mar 17, 2015 5:05 PM

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Wow way to eat the ENTIRE cake when it obviously doesn't belong to you. >_>
Sep 11, 2015 9:37 PM
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Second puzzle was very easy. Vic, don't behave too harshly to kujo, otherwise he will left you.
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