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| While I cann't see the rest of the replies because of what I can only assume is intense lag, I just had to post here because of the sheer greatness of the episode. I was sort of expecting this from SHAFT, but nothing on this level. No complaints here, everything was super dramatic and I think we can all hate QB a little more and love Homura a little more. I was speechless so many times; each loop was different. Yeah, it reminded me of Endless Eight, but so much better. Just too much to say. Thursdays are crazy. |
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| Well, now that we’ve seen Madoka as a Puella Magi, I guess it gives SHAFT excuse to not make her get a contract in this timeline. |
| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- It.. was.. GLORIOUS! It was so nice to be looking back into Homura's point of view. Plus.. she was cute with the braids. < 3 I sort of laughed when Mami dies right away in her first timeline.. just sort of deja vu. But! Good episode nonetheless, I really can't wait until Episode 11. |
| a breather episode about Homura's past (much like I said it would be last week). Gotta love when they start killing eachother in that one future though, it was pretty twisted. Lets see what heppens next week, after a breather like that, I have a feeling it's going to be pretty insane. |
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Yumekichi11 said: Obviously one of those things is to prevent her from being a Magical Girl but what I really think is that 2 Magical Girls are not enough to kill off the Walpurgisnacht witch and thus Homura needs to have Sayaka, Mami and Kyouko present and well to fight all together this witch I agree they need more than 2 girls!!! This series will either end tragically or happily haha. The happy ending is all of them survive long enough, but whether or not they all survive to defeat Walpurgis is another question. Then there is also the problem that even if they all do survive Walpurgis, they may eventually turn into witches anyway(as evidence by Madoka defeating Walpurgis but will eventually turn into a witch anyway) .After QB collects all the energy he wants, he looked like he was gonna leave Earth. Haruhi Suzumiya+ Higurashi, and Mahou Shoujo Madoka have the repeating time theme as common. Hm....Mahou Shoujo Madoka should be the last anime to have this repeating stuff... Repeats need to cool down for a while before new animes should use it again... Though Madoka does it well, I hope repeats don't get popular haha. |
| My mind has been blown... One of the best animes I''ve seen, PERIOD. |
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| I actually liked this episode, it explains why Homura knew so much and why she has a fiery hate towards QB (well, after learning all THAT, who wouldn't xD;; ) but anyways, I was like "OMFG.. Homura... why so...quiet.. :u" then later she became kuudere Homura, oh so epic xD;; I think I prefer Kuudere Homura, then shy, clumsy Homura.. :I anywho, I was happy to see Mami again, but then I was like "No" when she died again, pop up again happy, then she killed Kyoko :c ,and she got killed by Madoka.. :c sad, yet either way, Mami dies early and Sayaka dies later on, and so does Kyoko D< well, in different ways that is xD;; all in all, this episode was epic (IMO.. c: ) |
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| Gah, I'm too slow. Accidently made another topic. X_X Either way.. It.. was.. GLORIOUS! It was so nice to be looking back into Homura's point of view. Plus.. she was cute with the braids. < 3 I sort of laughed when Mami dies right away in her first timeline.. just sort of deja vu. But! Good episode nonetheless, I really can't wait until Episode 11. |
| Wow. I had goosebumps through the whole thing. I've been waiting for the episode on Homura's background since they introduced her character. Heh, when she was thinking of suicide and the scenery began to change, so did the music, and the first thing that popped in my head was: "That's Mami's theme!" And there she was with... Madoka?! It was interesting to see how they've all interacted differently throughout time. At one time Kyoko, Mami, Madoka, and Sayaka were all in a group together. Heh. And Mami's the one to kill Kyoko? Jeez. I wonder if Sayaka's wish was the same every time? And I wonder what Madoka's wish was. This episode was amazing. It might even be my favorite yet, but it's hard to say that when they're all so damn good. I don't want this show to end! Also, this puts a stop to all the "Homura is Madoka" stuff. :P |
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| THAT was excellent <3 I was kinda disappointed of the last week's episode, but this one was pure win! Can't wait for the next one~ |
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| First off, the most important thing: MAMI-SAMA!!!! <3<3<3<3 I guess I should have seen the Higurashi parallels right from the start, but at least it's now officially confirmed that all of the loops are Homura's responsibility (seriously, there are people out there that think that Homura isn't responsible for these loops); pretty much everything is still falling into the places which everyone practically predicted by episode two so the only thing left is to see how cruel Urobuchi will be. I can already imagine the most bittersweet conclusion occuring two weeks from now. And in conclusion.... MAMI-CHAMA!!!! <3<3<3<3 |
Will I fall in love someday? I wonder? |
| Prediction were correct it seems. I love the way it was executed though. Instead of the power to travel back in time she wished to redo her meeting which means Kyuubey is the one actually proving her this convenience. Really nicely done. She can redo as many times as she wants because that was her wish lol. And OMG when the gang finds out the truth lol. Mami going crazy killing Kyoko and Madoka killing Mami. ROFL. LOVE THIS ANIME! |
nishimari said: God, this episode was so... Epic. But was so Higurashi. I had totally the same idea in my head! The concept and solution Homura is trying to fins is very similar to Rika's as well. This episode somehow gave me good feelings about the whole series for some reason. With Homura's desperation to try and save her friends, it's basically a Devil's Pact QB's scheming around...well, that was quite found out since Sayaka's contract, but still... I totally loved Homura's attitude, and this flashback gave us more than enough reasons to understand her motives. I am wondering what they are going to do in the remaining episodes of the season, I sure hope as well that the ending isn't rushed. |
| not the first time i saw a time loop (i apparently get to have a lot of these regularly with what i watch/read).. but i really feel that this has a very good execution to it.. oh, Urobuchi Gen.. darn you for making your characters and some of your viewers cry.. now i'm just waiting on how this show will end.. i may give my 10 depending on the outcome.. or i may pronounce it as the best anime of 2011 (even though it has just started).. but we'll see.. and Akemi Homura <3.. such character development in this prequel.. i really love prequels.. |
| Mami! <3 That was an amazing episode, Homura's development was so much more then I was expecting! The scene when all five of the girls were together was one of my favorites because of the emotion, I can't believe Madoka killed Mami though. o__o I'm soooo excited for the final two episodes! |
| Oh no ! Someone forgot her homework again... I love this show, love the characters. This time loop explain so many things, even if it was anticipated it is still surprising and very well done. And at least I now understand why the teacher hesitates in first episode when she writhe Homura's name, she must has a 'déjà vu' feeling. |
Sith_ViciousMar 10, 2011 6:35 PM
| nice one!!! i'm sure many people wonder what is Homura's wish. And i love her for that. --- since ep 11 is title "the only remaining way" i could just make out that |
| Let's see: World 1 - Madoka and Mami working together and died at Walpurgis. Homura contracts with Kyubei. RESTARTO World 2 - Homura, Madoka and Mami are working together. Still, Mami died and Madoka became a witch. RESTARTO World 3 - Homura tells the truth and the rest are still not convinced. IDK why Kyoko is in that area since Mami did not die yet. Still, Sayaka turns into a witch because of love triangle(inevitable). Mami killed Kyoko thinking that the team are her enemies as well. Madoka killed Mami. Madoka and Homura fights Walpurgis together and lost. RESTARTO World 4 - Homura fights everything on her own letting Madoka not to contract with Kyubei. Homura can't defeat Walpurgis alone and Madoka contracts with Kyubei. They won though Madoka became a witch(I think). RESTARTO World 5 - episode 1 to 9 xDD No wonder why Homura said that no one will believe her when she tells about the truth since no one believed her in the previous world. FORESHADOWING and ZOMG Homura is repeating the same mistake in the past again!!! PLEASE HOMURA!!! I HOPE YOU PREPARED A NUCLEAR WARHEAD THIS TIME!!! |
| Oh holy crap that was amazing. Timeloop speculah confirmed, Homura being badass, Madoka in Puella Magi form, insane Mami and Kyubey being exploded, all in one episode. Upgrading score from 10 to 11. |
| Amazing Episode! Time loop shenanigans (like Higurashi + Endless Eight), seeing all the characters in the different timelines, seeing Homura as a shy girl with glasses, and a bunch of other stuff... This episode pretty much made me say by its end: "I LOVE THIS SHOW." |
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| Again, the pacing is excellent. Love this show. |
| Where's my post? =. = anyway Higurashi anyone? The current world feels like a Minagoroshihen arc. Everyone knows the truth but it is too late for them to survive... I guess the ending would be Homura will believe in changing fate by miracles xDD or maybe restarting to another world for them to fight their fate but this time, they believed in Homura and creates a miracle xDD or LAUNCH A FREAKIN ATOMIC BOMB goddamit xDD |
| I CAN'T EVEN So, killing Madoka before she become a mahou shoujo would be a solution, right? But would Homura do that with her only friend? This anime is so damn unpredictable that I can't even |
taterheadMar 10, 2011 7:03 PM
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| This episode was just...WOW!! I totally didn't expect that Homura was constantly traveling through time to save Madoka. Just die, Kyubei!! Just die!!! |
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| Finally an episode where we see what a magic Madoka looks like! I expect Homura to die eventually since the story can "continue" if Homura is alive since she has the ability to restart if this timeline fails. The series is only 12 episodes long hehe~ OR, it's a super happy go lucky ending with everyone alive. |
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| Wow what a great episode. I had a feeling Homura was from the future and well it kind of was right, but didn't expect the whole reliving everything over and over. Man, what great character development for Homura, explains how she knows so much about the Mahou shoujos and how she became a badass lol. Now with the anime coming down to its last two episodes, how will this awesome show end!!!! Also Loved all the dead kyubey parts, that fluffy furball just needs to be eliminated.....somehow. |
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| This episode is raising a whole bunch of death flags for Homura. I wouldn't be surprised if Homura sacrificed herself so Madoka can live on without becoming a mahou shoujo. She's relived the same events so many times that she's just become so de-sensitized by it and lives only to prevent Madoka from dying by using whatever means necessary. Lulz at Mami returning in some form or other. They all still end up dying either way. I seriously hope this doesn't turn out with a happy ending. It'd be kind of disappointing to see all this grim and horrible events to end in Madoka's perfect little cookies and cream world. This show clearly encourages going on the internet and making bombs and stealing weapons from the yakuza. |
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| WHAT IS THIS, I DON'T EVEN .. That was pure brilliance! BADASS. My face was glued to the screen the entire time, I was afraid to even blink. Then of course, I smiled when I saw Mami.. then again when I saw Sayaka and then screamed and shed a tear when I saw Kyouko. But they all died over and over. Is that just their destiny? *sigh* ;_; Either way, Homura was amazing! Do well the last two episodes and you'll get a big big 10 from me, Madoka Magica. |
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| Wow, let me scrape my brain off the wall because my mind was blown. Homura from Zero to Hero. Kyubei evil right down to the core. That Walpurgisnacht thing must be ridiculously strong. Best. Episode. Evar! |
| This episode just answered all of the questions there were for Akemi Homura. I can't believe she went through all those times and witnessed Madoka die all those times. I think the crazy events out of all the time she went to the past was when Mami found out about what Kyuubey actually does and just shot up everyone dead. I did not expect her to do that. That was just insane. I hope the past doesn't repeat ever again. At least we found out that Madoka's weapon is a Bow and arrow. |
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| I like how Homura's arm time travel device also seems to have an infinite interior or at least bigger than its outside which she uses to store weapons. I lol'd she has a tardis on her arm. |
Oosran said: Would you not if it was the most dearest person to you dying unless something is done in the time paradox world?Homura's cool and all, and Madoka when she actually becomes a mahou shoujo is also cool. But I really, really don't like Homura's motivation for giving her all to prevent Madoka from becoming one. Oosran said: Time paradoxes are always messing up the mind.Other than that, this episode was kinda messed up. metamorphius said: metamorphius said: I don't understand why everyone is thinking this of being endless eight when clearly nothing repeats itself by much IMO.Still, I'm not very happy to see Endless Eight-esque loop, HitoriTomoyo said: You are making me of butterfly effect. Could it be?I guess I should have seen the Higurashi parallels right from the start, but at least it's now officially confirmed that all of the loops are Homura's responsibility (seriously, there are people out there that think that Homura isn't responsible for these loops); otakuhime said: OMG no! No and no! I want my MyHiME ending where everyone fights together and possibly please make Mami's OST theme in there or something as mind blowing.since ep 11 is title "the only remaining way" i could just make out that Wasabi said: Yakuza? They looked more like private detectives to me.stealing weapons from the yakuza. herox3 said: She did kill her except she also dies because there was too much pollution in her soul gem and becomes a witch, which is something that was not happen.I'm confused to why Madoka was unable to defeat the witch even though she was able to 1HKO the witch last time... inexperienced. Maybe the magic powers weaken over time or weaken as it becomes clouded with darkness? This might explain why Mami died by the other witch early in the series. Or she was simply too weak. |
| Would agree on this being the best episode so far. Homerun-chan was definitely made from pure win here. Or fail, depending on how you look at it. Still, Homura's arsenal made me laugh a bit. First, when i saw her mixing explosives with a rather gloomy look on her face. Something is going to be photoshopped within a day... Second, when i imagined how she would get around if she hadn't had such convenient hammerspace. Even more when FMP immediately came to my mind: "Madoka, i'm going to protect you! --- Um... Homura-chan, carrying an assault rifle is prohibited by school regulations... " |
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| Gods I loved this episode and really enjoyed learning so much more about homura. Plus, can I hear a little something for Kyubey and being just where he needs to be to keep the mess going? hehe. But seriously, I've been thinking about who the Walpurgis night witch is and I think its Homura herself.Over and over again she has been going through the same time line to correct things, and she has been growing stronger in every way. Now with this episode we know why she is doing what she does, but did we really see everything? Its only speculation but knowing how well Kyubey is at manipulating the girls I would think it quite feasible that he set things up so that Homura would do something like this and by doing so create her own path to becoming a witch. Eventually the whole series of time loops would get to anyone, and I would theorize that in some loop that we wont see she finally snaps and becomes a witch.But with her power to manipulate time she becomes something special and begins to break into all the other time lines to stop Kyubey, which is why it happens on this one specific night. By doing so of course, she sets up a nice little loop to keep herself saving Modoka which only leads Modoka to needing to stop her before she destroys the world to save her. Essentially, the only way is for Homura to save Modoka is to become the witch, but that only leads us back to the end of the world. If I'm right, then Kyubey is one gloriously manipulative bastard, and the universe is saved for a little while longer.... of course were all dead but I'll die with a smile. |
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| This episode was just incredible. If the finale is as good as this episode it may just be one of the best anime i've seen so far. |
Yumekichi11 said: No Kyuubey does not benefit from any of those time lines all together as each one is reset. Yeah, I was thinking that too. I was about to reply to stevewiess01 but you already did. In fact, he seemed to get angry the last one where she reset the timeline. However, he already found out that she can do that early in this timeline so I think he'll try to prevent it from happening this time. So, this should be the final one but Homura doesn't show any indication of knowing that or not. Yumekichi11 said: that 2 Magical Girls are not enough to kill off the Walpurgisnacht witch and thus Homura needs to have Sayaka, Mami and Kyouko present and well to fight all together this witch. If it does not happen nothing will be solved, IMO killing Kyuubey may be impossible task. Nah, if that was the case she would have restarted already. She might be thinking that she'll keep getting stronger and eventually be able to do it by herself. Homura is really only focused on Madoka and not the others as much. Yeah, hopefully Kyubey doesn't win in the end but he seems impossible to beat since he really isn't there. I liked the whole time trip think that kept going on. It really showed how Homura became so indifferent to the whole sadness of it all and also shows how she became knowledgeable about everything mahou shoujo. I just hope they find some way to end it. I don't expect a happy ending where everyone is back to life but an ending where they stop Kyubey and the witch but at a big price. |
| FUCKING AWESOME EPISODE seriously can't wait for the conclusion |
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| What an amazing episode. So much was shown and it felt like it wasn't just a retelling but a different development each time (which it was). This show will definitely be getting a high rating from me. : ) |
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| One, I freakin called it. Two, holy shizlenits this is awesome! All I can really hope for is a good end for this timeline... Also, they added Homura and Kyoko into the final image. |
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| at first i was like "Mami! :D" then i was like "Mami! D:" then i was like "Everyone :D" then i was like "everyone D:" at least Homura has a reason for having a sucky character in the current timeline. |
| Damn, time travel tropes are always so interesting, yet so excruciatingly complicated and confusing. In my point of view, she never "resets" time, but merely creates alternate realities, that's to say, the events that happen in a one reality stay unchanged. It's only Homura herself the one capable of experiencing those changes. If she ever does succeed at adverting Madoka becoming the ultimate Witch, then that only applies to the reality she's currently at. She will never change the fact that Madoka became a Witch. Ever heard of multiverses? |
| This episode explained alot....not too mention we finally got to see "what if Madoka was a magic girl." This series is a definite 9/10 right.......maybe a 10/10, which is a first for me. |
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| So... a few things Homura just went from my favourite character of this season to probably my favourite character of all time. And the first loop... I think I woke my roommates up around the time when Madoka and Mami appeared. I'm pretty sure everyone else watching this episode cheered when: 1) They saw Mami again 2) Madoka transformed and totally badass |
OmniknightMar 10, 2011 9:28 PM
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| This is how those recap,filler or backstory episodes should be done. Amazing execution for SHAFT to do what they did this episode. Instead of doing something stupid like 8 episodes of Endless Eight they've squeezed in 5 timelines worth of doom and gloom from Homura's perspective and explained her development to what it is currently to boot. I'm starting to think that given the reversal of roles that Homura and Madoka had, from crybaby like and useless spectator Homura to cool acting Madoka and vice-versa we may see a reversal of wishes. If Homura dies then Madoka wishes to go back in time we may have an endless time loop. As usual more about the episode from me here. |
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