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Jun 9, 2008 6:53 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I love how they've matured the characters from the first series. This is such a great sequel, and so surprising because when you create a genre-defining show the expectation usually is that you follow it up with more of the same. Kudos to the writer/director and producers.
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Feb 3, 2009 10:56 AM

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Roberto noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
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Apr 23, 2009 5:17 PM

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Fraw Bow and Hayato?!? I always thought Amuro and Fraw Bow should be together, but he always did have a hard on for Sayla. Another Mobile Armor, and A great fight between all of them. Man I'm a psychic, last post I asked about Fraw Bow, and I said I hoped they found out about Char soon, but I guess he still hasn't confirmed it...Urahara Out!!


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Oct 14, 2009 7:53 PM

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Great episode, we finally get to see all the white base crew and Lieutenent Quattro is actually Char? Sugoi!

Oh and Char is definitely the best character in MS Gundam ^^
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Nov 5, 2009 12:20 PM

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a lot of these names are beginning to sound familiar
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Apr 8, 2010 6:04 PM

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Pretty good episode. We're getting some development for both Char AND Amuro.
Both were labeled as cowards and were suggested to stand up and have a larger role in the war.
Makes you wonder what exactly is going on through their mindset in their apparent powerless-ness.
 
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Jul 28, 2010 6:27 AM

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Not Char too... especially not by Camille...
And I'm hoping to see Sayla too...
 
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Jul 31, 2010 2:50 PM

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Kamille's just hit my Char!~ How dare he?
Fraw Bow and Hayato'll have a baby, it's so cute~
 
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Aug 13, 2010 11:53 PM

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I liked the part where Kamille punched Char right in the face, and Char flew across the room like there was no gravity.

Roberto dieing sucked.
But then again this IS a kill everyone show so I had best not get attached to anyone.
 
Nov 25, 2010 9:09 AM

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Ha Char got pwned ^^
 
Jan 4, 2011 2:33 PM

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Did nobody notice Captain Quattro, he is a CHAR? That had me giggling for a while.



Wow, Kikka~!

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Jan 24, 2011 1:40 PM

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It was a bit euphoric to see grown up Fraw and Amuro interacting. I would have loved this show to have more focus on the original cast than new characters like Kamille, but oh well. Also, Char crying after being hit by Kamille? I found that pretty hard to take seriously, heh.
 
Nov 17, 2011 1:00 PM

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Fraw adopted the kids? sweet :D
and Char got hit by a teenager? not happy =_=
overall: great episode
 
Apr 25, 2013 7:28 PM
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The characters and characterization in this series is amazing: you really grow attached to the whole cast, and not just what the story deems the primary characters. I was saddened that Roberto lost his life.

Also interested in discovering the reasons why Char and Amuro are so reluctant to fight again: I feel it has a lot of potential at portraying the horrors of war and/or human psychology.
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Aug 29, 2013 10:32 PM

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Another great episode. Too bad for Roberto.
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Oct 22, 2013 11:43 PM

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Kamille punched Quattro/Char! That was serious punch with Char flying across the room. :O Some epic fxs with Kamille before the punch.

Amuro has nice flying music on the radio.
 
Jan 12, 2014 7:16 AM
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That punk how dares he hit Char.
FrawXHayato huh ? I'm looking forward to see AmuroXSayla .
Hayato looks like he cloned himself and ate that clone .
And the most important thing: Nooo! Rober.... who ?
 
Feb 2, 2014 9:03 PM

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Char fabulously tearing up when he was hit by Kamille and saying about how is it to be young.
Char you old fart!
 
Feb 12, 2014 4:17 PM

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UC Gundam likes them random pairings, don't they? I thought Fraw Bow would be single (or with/waiting for Amuro) and just raising the kids since she never shown any interest in Hayato. It's good to see the kids again, but man, they've mellowed out. I miss Kikka's fire. Heck, no wonder adults can't pilot Gundams, they just don't have passion, man.

It's interesting to see that the good looking still good while the ugly just get uglier. LOL

I was totally expecting Char to dodge the punch. That guy acting like he's super old when he looks better than 99% of the cast. xD And it seems like Quattro (and the other good guys) can't hit anything since his debut. I can't but wonder if he's holding back since he was well known for being a good shot in 0079.
 
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parfaited said:
Char fabulously tearing up when he was hit by Kamille and saying about how is it to be young.
Char you old fart!


This moment was one of the highlights of my life.

The manliest mofo in universe Kamille hits Char Aznable to the face, that's hard to top
 
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cupc said:
parfaited said:
Char fabulously tearing up when he was hit by Kamille and saying about how is it to be young.
Char you old fart!


This moment was one of the highlights of my life.

The manliest mofo in universe Kamille hits Char Aznable to the face, that's hard to top

Nah, man, manliest hardass mofo in UC-verse is still Brighto-san. Even though in Zeta they basically turned him into a bullied kid, lol.

Anyway, surprised about the lack of reactions to Char getting fabulously hit by Kamille : I for one had to pause for a good minute looking at his goddam sparkly shoujo-esque tears. Man, that was grand. Though I admit I totally expected him to dodge like a boss haha
But seriously though, how in the hell dare you Kamille?

Didn't expect Hayato to end up with Fraw like, at all. That pairing is so fucking random. But I guess Fraw has been like a mother figure for Amuro in 0079 more than anything else, putting up with his BS and setting him straight when he needed to get his shit together, so the fact they didn't get married doesn't surprise me that much, after all.
Wut? Amuro had a thing for Sayla ? I thought that was Kai, lol
The only thing I remember from Amuro's "love life" in 0079 is how he was all over goddam Matilda before she died.

Roberto's death was spoilt by the previews... again. Not that I cared about the character, but I was still pissed. So I guess they didn't fix the problem in Zeta either. Well, might as well avoid them till the end of the show.
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Jun 1, 2014 2:31 PM
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Great episode. We finally get to see the WB crew. Weird that they didnt show Kika doing some bs. I knew that I'd be somewhat disappointed in the old characters since they didnt seem to have a major role now, and now its finally shown, Amuro and Char are now depicted as cowards. Good for Hayato and Fraw getting together and adopting the kids, and finally, i want to see more of this new gundams!
 
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Another godly episode!! Definitely the best one so far!

Frau Bow is much more mature now!! But it blows my mind that she went to Hayato. Then again she did comfort him during the final battle.

And where the hell is Sayla!?!?! Please i want to see where Sayla is now!!!!!

Amuro where the hell is she!?!?! I'm guessing Amuro did hid his Gundam, kinda like what Kira did during Destiny :P

Glad Hayato's Guntank is still there on the museum! I was hoping he would use it at least just for this battle.

Man it seems the White Base crew sense that Quattro is Char.

And Kamille punching Char!?!?! What madness is this O___O

Man Char teared up that he is no longer young as he once were.

Poor Roberto dying on battle :(

I'm really loving the team work of Char and Kamille!!! Their like father and son!! Kamille is learning slowly from the experience in battle.

Loving this series!! Definitely an amazing sequel and this is how you follow up and improve the previous season!!

Can't wait to see more Zeta Goodness!!
 
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Pheefa said:
Did nobody notice Captain Quattro, he is a CHAR? That had me giggling for a while.




A Char he is.
 
May 30, 2015 2:57 PM

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Miki-Liki said:
Pheefa said:
Did nobody notice Captain Quattro, he is a CHAR? That had me giggling for a while.




A Char he is.


Perfecto Engrish LOL
 
Jun 5, 2015 3:42 PM
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i knda got a tear in my eye when i saw a picture of ryu and amuro on the fireplace proving that amuro still is hurting from the war
 
Jul 21, 2015 4:34 AM

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Why didn't Frau Baw end up with Amuro ? Really like the tag team with Kamille and Quattro
One of the best episodes in my opinion
 
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Oh man, Char's glitter tears were great. I definitely wasn't expecting that. xD

I don't really blame Char or Amuro for not taking a bigger role than they have. I'm sure they've both seen more killing than they'd like, and as another poster pointed out, the picture of Ryu seems to show that Amuro never did forget his grief. In any case, that seemed like a somewhat petty reason for Kai to not work with them, but he always has had his own ideas and done his own thing, I suppose.

Although I thought it was a possibility, I'm not surprised at all that Fraw didn't end up with Amuro. She seemed more like a sister to him than a love interest. I am somewhat surprised that she ended up with Hayato, though. She did take care of him that one time near the end of the last season, but nothing romantic was hinted.

I thought both Kai and Amuro were potential matches for Sayla. Maybe she actually will be in this also? She's not in the OP.

We haven't had much interaction with the kids, but I hope Kikka is as spunky as she used to be. It would be a lot more entertaining now that she's older.

Cool episode all around.

They really need to stop spoiling stuff in the previews.
 
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TripleSRank said:
Oh man, Char's glitter tears were great. I definitely wasn't expecting that. xD


Is this the episode where Kamille punches Char?

TripleSRank said:
I thought both Kai and Amuro were potential matches for Sayla. Maybe she actually will be in this also? She's not in the OP.


Sayla only gets a cameo cause her voice actress was off in Africa on a safari or something during production.

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They really need to stop spoiling stuff in the previews.


Welcome to the wonderful world of Gundam.
 
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fst said:
TripleSRank said:
Oh man, Char's glitter tears were great. I definitely wasn't expecting that. xD


Is this the episode where Kamille punches Char?

I'm detecting a trend here.

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Yes, yes it is.


fst said:
TripleSRank said:
They really need to stop spoiling stuff in the previews.


Welcome to the wonderful world of Gundam.

Spoiler previews aside, I've been liking it so far.
 
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I remember the episodes not by what actually happens, but who gets the ever loving snot beaten out of them. And as you can see, I've not been wrong yet.

I hope that's not surprising or anything.

I still can't make up my mind on which is my favourite, the one where Wong unleashes a no holds barred beatdown on Kamille whilst he complains that violence is not the answer, or the one where Bright beats up everybody.
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"Captain Quattro, he is a CHAR." The letter was by far my favorite part of the episode. The filler text was just amazing. Really curious what Kai is going to do now, though.

My mom literally asked me whether I was laughing or crying after seeing the scene in which Kamille punches Char. Ridiculously stupid. I'm not expecting any less, I suppose.

I intended to mention this last episode, but it seems I forgot: Kamille keeps making up excuses for why the people he killed died. I suppose it's somewhat interesting, but it's not going to do him any favors in the long run.

 
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I suppose t says something when by far my favorite episode of the show is this one. This episode is basically a straight sequel to 079 catching up with so many great characters and the new Zeta characters were very much background for everything but up the fight.

Great to see Amuro, even though he is under house arrest. Frau and the kids and Hayato all were amazing. I also love that Kai is sneaking around like a superspy. Hope they keep the 079 characters in the forefront for a while.
 
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It was well worth enduring the 12 previous episodes! This single intro sequence about Amuro was so good. Every little thing. I liked him already before but seeing how he was kept under silence by the Federation during 6years after all he did, it is sad. (same for Sayla). His discussion with Fraw was good but I wanted her to slap this ingrate child of her, does he realize he wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for Amuro, how dares he call him a coward? Especially when undercover agents watch the poor veteran 24/7.

The short appearance of the old suits was a pleasing reference.

Funny to see how Hayato and Kai think Casval should have tried to change things by assuming a political role with his true identity. Don't they blame him for anything? On one hand, they are right: he would be easily accepted as a leader and this mature Char seems peaceful, (but not on Earth, being the son of an independentist) On the other hand, he presented himself to his sister as the heir of Zeonism on Texas and was willing to go further than their father by favouring Newtypes over oldtypes (instead of spacenoids vs earthlings). And hearing how he still want to preserve the Earth", I suspect him to still be Zeonist. And no Zeonist should ever raise to power, particularly a extremist thinker.


5/5
Series score: 7 (+1)

PS: Kamille punching Char because he doesn't want to assume any responsibility was odd and felt forced.
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It was nice to see that the Guncannon is safely stored in a museum, since Hayato quite obviously ate the Guntank.
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I intended to mention this last episode, but it seems I forgot: Kamille keeps making up excuses for why the people he killed died. I suppose it's somewhat interesting, but it's not going to do him any favors in the long run.


Yeah, it is a little interesting tidbit there. I guess it's way of "coping" with the stress? But really, it just reminds me of Kira "Jesus" Yamato- and that is NOT something I want ruining my UC watching.

In other news: Char proven to be a nostalgic old fart who cries like a shoujo girl when he's punched by teenage boys, Hayato's... gained a little weight, Kai's an antisocial loner again, and the boy whose name I can't remember has grown one hell of a spine and already become one of my favorite UC characters from this episode alone. (Not a high position, mind, but he's on the list at least. XD)

Speaking of interesting trends, there's been a sudden influx of transforming mobile suits in the past few episode. That wannabe Innovator from Jupiter, the transforming alien-esque mobile suit this week, and next week it looks like Amuro's facing yet another one as well. At least now we know where the idea for the Zeta's greatest gimmick comes from.

Looking forward to next episode.
 
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@naschyamamoto Macross Valkyries appeared between 0079 and Zeta.
 
Oct 17, 2016 6:17 AM

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A slow trickle lies ahead in the immediate future, given the many departed so far occurred. But adding too many new faces, all of which makes the story very animated, on the whole I am satisfied, because the fights are always varied with each other and intense. Even the dialogues, combine to make the story compelling.
 
Oct 25, 2016 12:05 PM

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Did this bitch really just slap Char?
Besides that, this was an absolutely fantastic episode, only downside is that im starting to miss Emma.
 
Oct 25, 2016 9:04 PM

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Re-reading this episode's letter (and Zeta's english in general), Victory's accurate english stands out as impressive.
 
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After catching this back up after a while, this series is still quite boring... I really do hope it gets a bit better now after this episode now everything actually starts?
 
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The inclusion of many of the old characters has been a welcome development in this anime. It's done a good job in showing what has changed and what has stayed the same. While I don't like most of what Kamille says, his final observation about how little control the Titans have on Earth is a good one. The divided nature of humanity is what started the war in the first Gundam, and it is the cause of the war in this one.

I have to give props to Roberto. This episode was his finest hour.

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3 Hizack Kills this episode
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The fighting choreography was pretty good!
 
Apr 21, 2018 4:10 PM

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Why did it had to be Roberto?

Also Char getting punched like he's nothing by Kamille? WOW
 
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Why did it had to be Roberto?

Also Char getting punched like he's nothing by Kamille? WOW


Why are you such a faggot bruh?
 
May 9, 2018 1:59 PM

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Another great episode. Man it would be so awesome if Amuro would go back to being a pilot again.
Kokoro did nothing wrong.

 
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I didn't think we'd see the kids again, interesting to see the old gang. Hayato got a little chubby, Fraw been treating him to nice.
 
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