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Feb 14, 2011 5:46 AM

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ZUN announced a new edition of the guidelines for secondary creations of Touhou Project. The following businesses are newly banned:

1. Sales of 2D animations (3D CGI works and slide shows with effects are excluded.)
2. Sales of games via Xbox 360 Indie Games
3. Sales of works via App Store and Android Market
4. Sales of works that exceed the range of dojin distribution (e.g. oversea download services)
5. Works of excessive sexual depictions and works that would slander a particular person, group or race that are extremely socially inappropriate.

As for the works which had been announced before the announcement of the new guidelines, ZUN left the decision up to the creators whether they will release their works.

It should be noted that the standard distribution of doujin works through channels such as Comiket or Reitaisai is pretty much unaffected. Anyone interested in selling commercial works involving Touhou must contact ZUN directly for permission.

Sources: Kourindou, ZUN's tweet
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Feb 14, 2011 7:34 AM

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here comes banning spree~

 
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Feb 14, 2011 7:39 AM

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Good luck ZUN. It's out of control and there's really not much you can do about it now.
 
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Feb 14, 2011 7:41 AM

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I smell a fanart ban coming like Archie Comics in the US.
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Feb 14, 2011 7:45 AM

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What the...? He's sober for once or what?
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Feb 14, 2011 7:56 AM

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ok... only concern is the game
 
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Feb 14, 2011 8:27 AM

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oh boy here comes trouble
 
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Feb 14, 2011 9:16 AM
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Damnit zun, why?
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Feb 14, 2011 9:54 AM

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Here it comes...
 
Feb 14, 2011 10:05 AM

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dtshyk said:
5. Works that contain illegal sexual expressions, slanders, and other socially inappropriate descriptions.


NOOOOOOOOoooooooo!
 
Feb 14, 2011 10:11 AM

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Defiantly concur with this statement!
 
Feb 14, 2011 10:32 AM

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IOSYS ;__;
And Yellow Zebra's M-1...
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我が魂を制するのはわれなり」
 
Feb 14, 2011 10:47 AM

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Place your bets that ZUN is secretly working with a certain leisure destroying governor?


 
Feb 14, 2011 11:09 AM

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People will just pirate his stuff.

 
Feb 14, 2011 11:19 AM
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This is meaningless. They have no real control over it anymore. It's like trying to control piracy.
 
Feb 14, 2011 11:20 AM

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Meh in my opinion the secondary crap wasn't really worth following. As long as he keeps pumping out the bullet hell i'll keep supporting him.
 
Feb 14, 2011 11:33 AM

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Maybe he has plans for upcoming projects in those markets and doesn't want competition. Alternatively, he probably just wants royalties.
 
Feb 14, 2011 11:41 AM
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well this is certainly something, hopes still up for next reitaisai
 
Feb 14, 2011 11:54 AM

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Why would you do that?
 
Feb 14, 2011 12:46 PM

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Well I guess banning stuff is the latest fad in Japan. It just doesn't make sense why they ban things that seem to make money.
 
Feb 14, 2011 12:47 PM

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won't matter, indie game's aren't accessible where I am.
 
Feb 14, 2011 1:05 PM
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Seasonreaper said:
Good luck ZUN. It's out of control and there's really not much you can do about it now.


Perfectly phrased. With how popular Touhou is, I doubt the fan-works will ever be suppressed.
 
Feb 14, 2011 1:11 PM
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So there will no Touhou anime.
 
Feb 14, 2011 1:15 PM

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icekatana8825 said:
Damnit zun, why?


Because people are making money off of their creations?

Nobody is banning the right to make fan fictions or worthless crap like that, they're banning the selling of them, which already is illegal.

You can't sell merchandise featuring Mickey Mouse for the same reason.
 
Feb 14, 2011 1:31 PM

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I hope this will wake people up. Leave Touhou to rot as ZUN runs it into the ground. Like it or not, the fandom is what spurred the cult following it obtained and made it what is today. Despite that, ZUN treats his fans like crap.
 
Feb 14, 2011 1:39 PM
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Bronove said:
dtshyk said:
5. Works that contain illegal sexual expressions, slanders, and other socially inappropriate descriptions.


NOOOOOOOOoooooooo!


yeah but

dtshyk said:
5. Works that contain illegal sexual expressions, slanders, and other socially inappropriate descriptions.


Whats would be an illegal sexual expression in a work of fiction. And for those who find loli's questionable i was under the impression that the touhou girls are rather quite old.
 
Feb 14, 2011 2:21 PM

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"Works that contain illegal sexual expressions, slanders, and other socially inappropriate descriptions."

Does not concern doujin, only commercial stuff.

Source (ZUNs twitter): http://twitter.com/korindo/status/37079810731679745

Basically what all these guidelines says is that touhou is doujin only, nothing no one should make money from.

So basically... This does not concern any of us at all in any way.
 
Feb 14, 2011 4:18 PM

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Isnt it already illigal to sell this stuff for money????
So does this even matter????
 
Feb 14, 2011 4:22 PM

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There are only two logical reasons for this:
1. Someone took away ZUN's alcohol
2. Someone is bribing ZUN with alcohol
 
Feb 14, 2011 4:48 PM
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ITT: Overreacting

Nobody other than ZUN should be making money off the franchise anyways.
 
Feb 14, 2011 6:08 PM
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Hm, well. Taking another step further.

TomBronze said:
Despite that, ZUN treats his fans like crap.


...Oh really? Hard to believe.
 
Feb 14, 2011 6:26 PM

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whoa....just saw his pic...

his last will?
"Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5."


 
Feb 14, 2011 6:35 PM

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i wonder if they decided that they didnt like making money...



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Feb 14, 2011 6:51 PM

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Gensokyo.org just translated the whole message:

http://www.gensokyo.org/archives/1682#more-1682

They also translated his twitter message:

ZUN has added some updates to questions on his Twitter account (posted here in chronological order).

過剰な性的表現というのは法に引っかかる程度です。当然ですが日本の法律には準拠してください
“[Don't make] Excessive sexual depictions” basically means don’t run afoul of the law. Naturally, I’d like all creators to respect the laws of Japan.

企業はエロイものは今までも許可していませんし、今出ている同人作品で内容的に不味いと思ったものは特にありませんのでご心配なく。明文化しただけです
I’ve never before authorized commercial porn before, and I’ve never really been that bothered by the contents of any doujin I’ve seen, so don’t worry. I just had to make the stipulation.

前から聞かれることが多い質問ですが、公式でアニメ製作に関わったなんて今まで一度も無いですよー。予定もないですよー。余裕もあるもんですか
I’ve been asked this question a lot, but I’ve never been officially involved in an anime production before! And I’m not planning on it! Not like I have the time.

So, reports of the death of Touhou erodoujin are greatly exaggerated.


See, nothing to worry about. People freak out for so little these days.
 
Feb 14, 2011 6:57 PM

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Oh, Zun... You crazy mofo.
For all due respect sir, that's pretty screwed up right there.
 
Feb 14, 2011 7:16 PM
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wow, now we have to fear censorship on both sides of creativity, from the government, and from the author.... pretty soon we aren't going to have anything left...
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Feb 14, 2011 7:30 PM

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The thing that made me wonder was the thing about overseas download and online sales. What exactly is that supposed to mean?

If all this really is isolated to the commercial sector, I have a feeling this might have at least *a little* to do with ufotable. Just a gut response, though.

Being 'limited to doujin range' is hazy. Some of the booksellers carry doujin circles and ship overseas, after all. If it does get applied to doujin in this case, then it would mean that only doujin sold at Comiket or Reitaisai, et al. is permitted?
 
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And nothing of value was lost.
 
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FatherAnderson said:
Meh in my opinion the secondary crap wasn't really worth following. As long as he keeps pumping out the bullet hell i'll keep supporting him.


Agreed, although I do own a bunch of stuff that would now be considered "banned" by ZUN.
 
Feb 14, 2011 7:50 PM

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Why, zun, why... ?
 
Feb 14, 2011 9:34 PM
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yup, it is banning he sales, not the production.
 
Feb 14, 2011 9:58 PM

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I agree wiith the drunk guy.

He sure got hope tough.
 
Feb 14, 2011 10:40 PM

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I think most people misread this, don't think he is banning the doujin stuff just the real inappropriate ones and preventing people from selling to a large range of people via internet or whatever.
 
Feb 14, 2011 11:42 PM
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Not really concerning me as i'm not a big fan of Touhou but i can see where this is going.
 
Feb 15, 2011 6:50 AM
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ZUN just protects touhou
the image of ZUN's touhou can be a lot different than some touhou doujin circle.

the original touhou can be broken if ZUN didnt do this.

although the 5th one is a shame :P
 
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renjikuchiki1 said:
wow, now we have to fear censorship on both sides of creativity, from the government, and from the author.... pretty soon we aren't going to have anything left...

He's not censoring people this is basic copyright law. You can still make secondary materials but you cannot sell them for profit nothing will change unless you sell your material.
 
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Meh, the only thing that really worries me about this announcement is how it affects the Maikaze anime. Other than that, everything in there is fine.
Just my two cents.
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Feb 19, 2011 11:27 AM

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So basically, I won't get my Touhou anime, ever?! OH NOEEES
 
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Meh, the only thing that really worries me about this announcement is how it affects the Maikaze anime. Other than that, everything in there is fine.
Maikaze shouldn't be affected it they don't sell it for money.


 
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Greenwell said:
Agreed, although I do own a bunch of stuff that would now be considered "banned" by ZUN.


Unless you paid for it, i.e. it was commercially sold, or it's illegal depictions of the underage no you don't. He isn't banning doujin, just the SELLING of his intellectual property for PROFIT. Most of the people in this thread seem to be misunderstanding this very point. People can still make as much yuri as they like, but if they then ask for money for it, it's banned and, for that matter, illegal anyway.

ScrewBall said:
Meh, the only thing that really worries me about this announcement is how it affects the Maikaze anime. Other than that, everything in there is fine.


I guess it means Maikaze has to give it away for free. And those seiyuu can't be cheap to hire... ; - ; *hopes Musou 2 will be released*
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