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Jan 26, 2011 6:56 AM
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In a copyright infringement complaint against 1,337 BitTorrent Users over One Piece has been executed by the North American anime distributor FUNimation Entertainment.
The unidentified defendants, according to the suit filed in the Northern District of Texas, have ''collectively participated, via the internet, in the unlawful reproduction and distribution'' of the 481st episode of One Piece called ''Ace Rescued! Whitebeards Final Order!'' via the BitTorrent file-sharing protocol. The alleged incidents of copyrights infringement took place between 9th of January and 12th of January.

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Jan 26, 2011 7:02 AM
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This reminds me of how RIAA does things by suing random ppl with asking them to pay
thousand of dollars of damages. (Doesn't get any good results.)
Somehow I quite believe its the producers are pressing Funi to do this.
The PR relation between Funi and anime fan is gonna be nasty.
1337 is a nice number :)
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Suing others doesn't solve anything (IMO)
Jan 26, 2011 7:02 AM
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Wow. That's pretty hardcore. They had no good reason for their behavior though, seeing as you can watch one piece legally via simulcast...it just doesn't make sense to illegally distribute it.
Jan 26, 2011 7:04 AM
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rofl, epic fail.
Jan 26, 2011 7:23 AM
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Hah

Good thing I just rent the seasons from netflix.
Jan 26, 2011 7:28 AM
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it just doesn't make sense to illegally distribute it.

The stream is region locked.
Jan 26, 2011 7:30 AM
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That's leet, Funi still sucks though.

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Jan 26, 2011 7:32 AM
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good thing that with my DL speed i wont distribute practically anything in ~2 minutes
Jan 26, 2011 7:34 AM
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Hah

Good thing I don't watch One Piece at all.
Jan 26, 2011 7:36 AM
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netflix is awesome. unlimited anime for like 10-20 bucks a month
Jan 26, 2011 7:37 AM

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scary! i don't want to DL via torrents >.<

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Jan 26, 2011 7:37 AM

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Sorry, we had to do it to be able to stream Fractale again.
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Jan 26, 2011 7:38 AM

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Poor, unfortunate scapegoats. Your sacrifice will get Japan off Funi's back.
Jan 26, 2011 7:38 AM

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Lmao I never thought I would say this but wow funi you actually did something awesome.
Jan 26, 2011 7:43 AM
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Is FUNimation trying to be l33t? Yeah, I don't think things will work like this, though you can't say they have no reason to act that way.
Jan 26, 2011 7:46 AM

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pffft. I never liked you Funimation, if that's how you wanna dance, let's dance.
cough.
well that sucks, I never rreally ever watched One Piece though :/ although my friend really really likes. it


Jan 26, 2011 7:54 AM

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How did they tracked 1337 users ??
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1,337 - very small number .
Jan 26, 2011 8:12 AM

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People getting charged with piracy over a pirate anime. Isn't that ironic.
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Jan 26, 2011 8:17 AM

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I laughed when I read that, but truthfully, that really sucks...
Jan 26, 2011 8:22 AM

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1337? Woooooow good thing i don't watch OP.
Jan 26, 2011 8:27 AM
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How did they tracked 1337 users ??

big brother is watching you .
Jan 26, 2011 8:29 AM
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lol people actually use torrent to download anime ?

I have millions of ways to download anime directly.
Jan 26, 2011 8:40 AM

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Snowical said:
A copyright infringement complaint against 1,337 BitTorrent Users over


somehow i just cant anything in this article seriously...

but ya it is illegial to do that... just no one ever bothers to actualy get anyone for it... dont kno why people whould torrent that show to begin with anyway...



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Jan 26, 2011 8:41 AM

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this is funny....really funny xD
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Jan 26, 2011 8:50 AM

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Good thing i have not watched One Piece yet. But 1337? Really? I thought there are more OP lovers out there
Jan 26, 2011 8:53 AM

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sankar said:
How did they tracked 1337 users ??


Busted the tracker people were using, got the IP, getting names from the ISP will be fun, some ISP's just stick up a big middle finger. If you're that worried about getting caught you can pay for something like BT guard, makes you anonymous.
Jan 26, 2011 8:57 AM

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1337? Looks like FUNi's trying to send us a message...the Internets, I mean.

"A number of BitTorrent websites are explicitly named as "witnesses" in the infringement, including one hugely popular anime-focused BitTorrent site."
Which one? It won't be popular for long.

"FUNimation are[sic] bringing this suit with a view to winning damages of $150,000 as well as costs from the defendants listed..."
In other words, ~$112.19 per person, plus legal costs.
Also, grammar fail.

"This course of action is likely to be controversial amongst anime fans just as similar actions have been with music..."
No joke Sherlock, this will wreak havoc with FUNi's PR and undo millions' worth in advertising, all for $150K, fear from their fans and the attention of real pirates who didn't think of FUNi as a challenge yet.

Now, I try to support the anime industry as I can, both the producers and the distributors, if I can, but times like this just make me wanna *facepalm* ><;;

I mean, these are their fans we're talking about! And don't tell me out of all those 1,000+ people, none of them bought goods related to one piece - DVD sets, posters, figurines, body pillows (Nami, not Luffy =P)...just one sufficiently obsessive fan can spend more then dozens of more casual fans, all on secondary goods. Whether they watch a fansub or on TV makes no difference...actually, scratch that. This is America we're talking here - FUNi kinda butchers One Piece and puts it on TV for prepubescent kids, so...fansubs would actually be far more likely to attract the kind of fan willing to pay for official secondary goods then the TV version.

*sigh* someone tell FUNi there're better ways to make money then mass suing. I hope.
Jan 26, 2011 9:02 AM

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sankar said:
How did they tracked 1337 users ??

It's who they looked up when they themselves connected to the tracker.

This really is in poor taste. Go after the tracker sites, not the users.
Jan 26, 2011 9:21 AM

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this case will really be annoying and costly to FINi, they know it we know it, and they wont amount to anything. 1337, while a rather amusing number, is not even a drop in the bucket, or even a grain in the sand. they will also probably have to prove that they got the right people, using legal means, and that in fact the people subpoenaed (not sure if that's how you spell it) are actually the ones committed the act. (these days its not hard for people to "ride" on your "unsecured" wireless network lol)

it has been a while since i have seen Goats like these.
Jan 26, 2011 9:26 AM

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DragoZERO said:
sankar said:
How did they tracked 1337 users ??

It's who they looked up when they themselves connected to the tracker.

This really is in poor taste. Go after the tracker sites, not the users.


agree 100% they don't look as bad and if the site is clever enough they can post the C&D letters and their responses for a good laugh (Kind of like the pirate bay, definitely check out their C&D letters if you haven't)
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Babels said:
it just doesn't make sense to illegally distribute it.

The stream is region locked.

They'd have to be people with American IP addresses to be tried in an American court of law, though, so while it makes sense for people who can't access the stream to download the fansub, it doesn't excuse these people.

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Good thing i have not watched One Piece yet. But 1337? Really? I thought there are more OP lovers out there

It's hard for suits involving thousands of people to go through (honestly I kind of doubt they'll succeed with this many anyway), so Funi just stuck to a small percentage.
As for why they chose to sue 1337 people, eh, probably for teh lulz. Same reason why they probably chose One Piece (1337 pirates sued for pirating a show about pirates).

Anyway, while it's within Funi's rights to do this, they really could've gone about it better. There's no real point in suing these people other than scaring some people away, and there will always be other people who will take the risk (or pay Bittorent to make them anonymous). If the music, movie, and game industries couldn't succeed at anything bigger than individual lawsuits, I really doubt Funi's going to get anywhere here.
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sankar said:
How did they tracked 1337 users ??
Through your IP address.
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Jan 26, 2011 9:48 AM

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Just another reason to hate Funimation, if you ask me.

They're even worse than Beez Entertainment, for christ's sake!
Jan 26, 2011 9:51 AM
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I cant believe people still pay to watch anime, or even better, STREAMED anime.

It still gets me everytime
Jan 26, 2011 9:54 AM

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lol people actually use torrent to download anime ?

I have millions of ways to download anime directly.
I bet you still use the VLC player!

Yes, people use torrents since it's usually better than DDLs
Jan 26, 2011 10:10 AM

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that's freakin scary
Jan 26, 2011 10:13 AM

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Hah

Good thing I don't watch One Piece at all.
Jan 26, 2011 10:17 AM
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no it isn't. Same files but you get it faster. Also, you don't get your IP traced directly.
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SuperSaiyen said:
no it isn't. Same files but you get it faster. Also, you don't get your IP traced directly.


There is nothing faster than torrent for a new release. But it's true that ddl is "safer" if you don't have some "know-how". But then again, torrent is a much more convenient to use, especially if you want more than just one thing. Also you are guaranteed to have no dl-error, as that will be detected, unlike with ddl.

That aside, I kinda wonder why this hasn't happened much before. I know that some torrents were known for attracting simple C&D's but this... hm.
Shouldn't concern those outside their stream-area (only US?) though.
Jan 26, 2011 11:07 AM

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As long as they didn't sue anyone outside of the USA I have no pity.
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Jan 26, 2011 11:14 AM

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I wish FUNimation and every company that dub and sub anime in America will die, together with every company that dub and sub in my country.
Jan 26, 2011 11:15 AM

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YEEHAA

Supporting the industry they like.
Those crazy fucks.

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SuperSaiyen said:
no it isn't. Same files but you get it faster. Also, you don't get your IP traced directly.


There is nothing faster than torrent for a new release. But it's true that ddl is "safer" if you don't have some "know-how". But then again, torrent is a much more convenient to use, especially if you want more than just one thing. Also you are guaranteed to have no dl-error, as that will be detected, unlike with ddl.

That aside, I kinda wonder why this hasn't happened much before. I know that some torrents were known for attracting simple C&D's but this... hm.
Shouldn't concern those outside their stream-area (only US?) though.

False security is false.
If they want to get you they will.

Probably won't effect anyone else though. If you are worried stick to the legal means. Only watch shows that aren't legally available. Aka....use Crunchyroll and Funi for all the shows this season. And just use the magic of patience to get it a week after release or pay for it.

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Congratulations. Your wish has been granted!
WHATS THIS? It's evolving....
You just killed the industry in North America and elsewhere!

Now there won't be huge deals on products because it's a niche market.
There will no longer be conventions.
No longer will you be able to buy anime related products online. It's to expensive to keep open a market that has no followers.
Wanted to stream that new episode of One Piece? Ah. To fucking bad. Fansubbers just don't care anymore because only like twelve people watch their stuff.

Shiroth said:
Babels said:
it just doesn't make sense to illegally distribute it.

The stream is region locked.

Good thing they only sued people who it isn't region locked for, eh?

Bostonblows said:
sankar said:
How did they tracked 1337 users ??


Busted the tracker people were using, got the IP, getting names from the ISP will be fun, some ISP's just stick up a big middle finger. If you're that worried about getting caught you can pay for something like BT guard, makes you anonymous.

False Security!
BT Guard is easily broken by anyone with a few dollars to spare.
Just sign up for a new IP and bam! You have beat the high tech security of "Blocking IP adresses of known whistleblowers"

DragoZERO said:
sankar said:
How did they tracked 1337 users ??

It's who they looked up when they themselves connected to the tracker.

This really is in poor taste. Go after the tracker sites, not the users.

Go after the gun! It killed them not I. The person who pulled the trigger.

It's a small small fine. A hundred bucks and then some per person. A speeding ticket for doing something wrong, to say.
They couldn't actually legally say it's a warning. The law wouldn't allow them to sue over that. So say it's lost profits and bam. Allowed to sue.

It's a message though. They are watching and they won't put up with bullshit.
Anyone who could have watched it legally but didn't because of "Quality issues" has self righteousnesses issues and deserves a fine slapped in their face.
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"The complaint specifically mentions the BitTorrent sites isohunt.com, kickasstorrents.com and nyaatorrents.org as potentially playing a role in the sharing process. Funimation is requesting that the defendants pay damages and destroy all the works they’ve downloaded using BitTorrent."

http://torrentfreak.com/anime-distributor-launches-piracy-assault-sues-1337-bittorrent-users-110126/
Jan 26, 2011 11:39 AM
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Did they purposely get find 1,337 people exact, because that's lol (leet).
Jan 26, 2011 11:49 AM

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People getting charged with piracy over a pirate anime. Isn't that ironic.


^ This. And I feel sorry for them.
Jan 26, 2011 11:49 AM

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Yeah, the number 1337 is the only thing I lol'd at.
The other stuff is serious. But do they really think this will make a difference?


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as a funimation fan i have to admit: this was a really dick move they pulled. there's also the chance this action could cost them they're fans (not me since i never download :P) as well as get some glaring eyes from other anime fans and non-supporters. i wonder if funi will find a way out of this mess they made.

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I wish FUNimation and every company that dub and sub anime in America will die, together with every company that dub and sub in my country.


WORST CASE SCENARIO!

seriously if that happened, the anime industry (the fanbase as a whole possibly) would crumble to the ground everywhere. do you really want that to happen? idiot

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I cant believe people still pay to watch anime, or even better, STREAMED anime.

It still gets me everytime


maybe it's because we want to watch anime LEGALLY. torrents including since the downloading will take long and the files might possibly get accidently erased. just saying.
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1. It only reflects the yibis release.
2. They can't do anything to non-US IPs. The reason Fractale producers got on Funi, is that they only have control in their region. Funi has control in the US.
3. No sites or trackers can be targeted if they are hosted on a server not in the US. If the people behind the scenes live in the US, they can be targeted... but there are ways to hide yourself.
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