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Nov 8, 2015 2:05 PM

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Kamille is pretty hot-headed,reckless and stupid (even Amuro wasn't this stupid in the original) almost everything he did this episode made no sense.

stand said:
It wouldn't be Gundam if it didn't have a slap in the first 3 minutes of the first episode...bless the skies!

Dec 16, 2015 12:18 PM
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Seeing as I did a series of comments on Mobile Suit Gundam, it only seems fitting if I do the same here :)

So there was a bitchslap in the first three minutes of the first episode. I'm going to start a fucking counter for this show XD

This episode had me jumping up and down twice. The chase scene with Char was really awesome, and the scene with Kamille escaping jail was also incredibly exciting. I don't have any context to like this kid on yet, but at least I know this won't be a boring ride if he just keeps punching everyone he doesn't like.

Possibly the best part of the episode was seeing Bright in the background near the end. It was just a fun surprise that I almost missed :p

Bitchslap counter: 1

Feb 4, 2016 3:00 PM
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More of a teaser than a full meal, but enough intrigue to get me excited to watch the next stage of Gundam. Kamille however isn't doing it for me. I never minded Amuro, but this kid is a hot headed dick. Oh well, I'm sure he'll receive no small number of slaps to the face.
Mar 3, 2016 9:56 AM

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jesus fucking christ the animation for the amount of detail
they can't possibly keep this shit up

okay i know it looks fucking stupid for a kid like him to have no chill and be on edge all the goddamn time just cos his parents let go, but if he were a japanese furyou, his highly irritable demeanour would make so much sense

so i'll take it so far
so long as he doesn't get edgy as fuck or cries and just keeps it real like amuro

godfuckingdamn the character design is great
Apr 6, 2016 6:22 AM

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The thing I just saw felt great: opening, (chara)designs, music, new geopolitical background (even if I was introduced to it at the end of 0083), Bright.
The Titans seems to be what I supposed it would be: an instrument of terror against the colonies. Glad to see it triggered a natural answer with this AEUG group except if it is only a bunch of terrorists. If not then great because it means Casval has chosen to follow a softer path for the spacenoids liberty rather than this newtype-only revolution he was talking about before.
It seems GMs have been replaced with some mass-produced Gundam and I wonder what is this MS model the AEUG uses.
All the nods to 0079 were very welcomed (sneak-in, ...) , and the immediate Newtype mentions means they will expand this idea too (I wondered if Char was a NT, I know now!).

1) Camille (is Kamille the official romanization?): this boy is absolutely execrable!
- he has a terrible complex around his name,
- he is way too angry (but this will probably be explained later, so OK)
- he has more than a simple teenager problem with authority
- does he know what he is doing, and more importantly why?? Because I had not the slightest idea of what was going with him.
He's like a Char^1000. He would get very well along him who could never make his mind very long.
But since he is kind of a Bright fan, I can give him time.

2) his "friend": it is Fraw all over again, even more nerving. Fraw did evolve in a good way, but if this girl gets the same change she will still be a useless repetition.
3) ... can I pick Camille again? Seriously he better changes through the events. (I know Tomino and Yasuhiko are always saying Amuro never really developed through the original series, but I think he did.)

3/5 but promising.

I really wonder how Camille can be more appreciated than Amuro, I hope I will discover the reasons in the series. But in the same time, I never had a problem with Amuro (except when he went mad after Fraw Bow just as a pressure lowering method) and find him a very good character. And how is Char this popular? I like him too but his "changes of mood" were very very annoying in 0079. (particularly when he decided to be his father's insane ideology heir)

Sakarii said:
Char's pretty cool though he acts like Lalah contacts him randomly. lol

He still has not get over the stronger connection between her and Amuro.

@SkyDrop Yes, "Char" is notably older: he was 19 in 0079 (20 at the end of the war) and he's now 26-27years old in Zeta (0086)

@Gytanzo "Did the captain really need to slap Kamille?" Oooh yes, yes he did. For the audience, for popularity, for success !! Or at least that might have been´Tomino's thought.
Do you remember when Bright slapped Amuro? "You hit me twice. Not even my father has ever hitten me !" Well, this moment is INCREDIBLY famous (there are shirts of it !), it got a massive response. There were a few later punches/slaps in 79 too. But probably in reaction to the big hit this legendary slap became, Zeta will feature slapS. And by that, I mean this will be a preponderant feature of Zeta: characters will often get "corrected", to a point where I wondered if the show wasn't actually making absurd fun of the thing (even characters talk about it if I remember well !).
About Camille, let's just say for now he's an angry kid with reasons.
About the Titans and the overall context, yiu'll get some informations. But isn't it great to have a director that doesn't take young peoples for idiots and spoonfeed his world or characters thoughts to them?
Modified by Rei_III, Jun 26, 2:41 PM
Aug 4, 2016 1:36 PM

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Decent start of this season, looking forward to see what kind of story this gundam series will have to offer!
Oct 3, 2016 6:07 AM

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He started the trend with UC anime series Mobile Suit Gundam, I could not continue the journey and start the series of Z Gundam. Since I do not find this anime in my language, I'm forced to see it with English subtitles. So, I do not understand the dialogues, and I did not understand the actions of Kamille. However in just minutes, we have seen all or almost. Quality better than 0079 drawings, sound to be evaluated.
But now before continuing with the vision, I step back and look at also the series of OVA titled Gundam 0083, just for completeness.
Oct 14, 2016 8:53 PM

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I was super excited to start this, and i have to say that this was a very solid start!
Nov 1, 2016 1:55 PM
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Kamille (did I spell that right?) sure is a hot-head, then again I can relate.
Nov 1, 2016 2:15 PM

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I like Kamille waaaaaay better than Amuro. Jerid on the other hand...
May 6, 2017 11:24 AM

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I have no clue as to how Kamille is even alive at this point. The amount of stupid he displayed is at the point where I would expect he would either be dead or in prison. It's true he has a girly name, but that is no excuse to just run across a room to punch someone, especially if that person is part of a powerful military organization. He then lucks out and gets off without any punishment, and then he just goes and attacks the guy who let him go because he said spacenoid. This kid really needs a Bright Slap, but considering he was already slapped at the beginning I don't think it would do much good.

Kamille Bidan Kill Count:
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Aug 5, 2017 3:32 PM

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Finished MSG 0079 today and took a little break from studying to watch the first episode.

First thing that stuck out to me was.. the production! Wow, it felt like I was watching a movie. You can tell there was a lot of money invested into the show. Great music, great animation.

Pretty solid so far.
Sep 16, 2017 12:33 PM
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This is a vast improvement over the original series, as well as its precursors timeline wise. Stardust Memory, which featured a preview of the titans at the very last episode, was a sleeper hit and I don't have much faith in 08th MS Team. War in the Pocket is pretty good, though.

Pacing is done much better, characters are much better, OST and animation are much better. This really feels like a complete package for any Gundam fan, really. I found the original and a few others a complete chore to get through.
Jan 9, 2018 2:55 PM

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MC is a troublemaker...?
Mar 1, 2018 1:03 AM

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Mobile Suits holding hands? L-lewd!!
Mar 17, 2018 9:34 AM

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Wow! An awesome beginning, I love a show that gets right into the action with a sense of mystery that unfolds later on. Glad they started right away with the NewType concept.
Apr 15, 2018 8:20 AM

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Kamille got no chill at all.

Regarding the technical aspects it has improved. But so far I preferred Amuro as MC. Well,looking forward to his appearance and how this season is going to play out.
Kokoro did nothing wrong.

Aug 9, 2018 8:29 PM

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indeed strange start to this show. Didn't liked our new mc's luck unlike Amuro's situation had serious but Kamille's situation were bit non serious yet he was acting too unlikable to me. Maybe he has some mysterious power but wished I could liked him right away though or perhaps I have missed Amuro as mc too much..
Anyway nice to see Char's back which was as early than I anticipated, so awesome (but he doesn't seem to be young like before..). Also interested to see the old character return too. The new villain team titans already looks very bad guys. Cool to see the new animation which looks very cool and very impressed me and the music has cool 80's feels.
Dec 2, 2018 10:14 PM
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This kid is really is something and the part where he became angry and punched that guy for insulting his name was hilarious. One episode in and I’m already liking Kamille way more than Amuro.
Apr 26, 2:34 AM

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Big step up from 0079 visually, Kamille a newtype? Char and bright back!
Jun 26, 12:08 PM

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I'll reiterate what other people are saying here: This was a massive step up visually. We haven't gotten to see how mobile suit fights have evolved, but basically, every aspect has improved between the original show and now. I guess they sold enough toys to up the budget. Since this is a TV show, I can finally go back to just summarizing it instead of typing an entire fucking essay.

I guess the conflict from the original show is now called the "One-Year War." Did the Captain really need to slap Kamille there? He's just skipping practice. How does this car system work? Do they have a car pass or something? Were those lights the three mobile suits we saw earlier? Bright got promoted to a Captain now. Good for him. Apparently, Kamille is a girl's name. First I've heard of it. Does Kamille get triggered when his name is called girly like when Ed from FMA is called short? That kick lacked impact. That just me? It seemed like it shouldn't have hurt as much as it did. At first, I thought that other blond guy was Char, but I figured out this red guy was the real Charry boy pretty fast. That's a pretty handy hacker device you got there, Char. Only Char would be able to outmaneuver a fucking mobile suit. I hope we get a legitimate explanation as to who these "Titans" are that isn't a MAL Rewrite synopsis. I need more context. That's a new Gundam, huh? This Kamille kid reminds me of Amuro. Kamille is too quick to rush into action. He's going to get himself hurt eventually. I wonder what Kamille's plan is now. There isn't really any going back after what he did.
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