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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Rose went off with the Black Dragon without putting up a fight. She is also shown to be imprinting which explains her extreme affection for Ryuuji, it's so cute and it was explained in Ryuuji's past since he witnessed her hatching from an egg while in the mountains and he was the first thing she has seen. The next episode Ryuuji is going to rescue her. |
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| bleh. I thought Rose gonna fight against Brack Dragon ._. |
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Kanade-chan said: bleh. I thought Rose gonna fight against Brack Dragon ._. Same here but there's always next episode. |
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| Heh Ryuuji was lame in this ep he didn't try to fight back and he is supposed to be lvl 10 breaker(whatever this is ) and he have no power at all?! I'm starting to hate all those meek male I hope he goes GAR in next ep :) |
| How wonderful, the plot actually moves along. However, there are a lot of questions this show brings up, including these 'breakers' and 'Society' and 'Fang'. I just hope they will answer them all. |
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| Ruji's 10th level probably worth smth but he still don't want to fight because of some psychological issues. Hope he'll change his mind soon. |
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| i feel bad for Rose, and Ryuji is supposed to be a level ten breaker!! It must mean theres only 7 of them. I expected him to at least put up a fight, geez he went down so fast. Rose can actually talk now, i thought she was gonna be like Ryuji Ryuji Ryuji throughout the whole anime, Im so glad she isnt. Shes so KAWAII |
| already best op this season imo.but ep was ok, waited for ryuji to do something but ok. 1 ep was kinda better though. |
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| Not as good as e1 but still good. Looking forward for next week. |
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| Cheesy, bad episode, I hope this gets better again... |
| wow he was pretty damn pathetic...but well see if he's gonna do something next episode.... |
| I'll never say "I understand what you're going through" |
| Great Animation of the black dragon going wild. I still want to see Ai in this anime, I really like her appearance judging from the opening ^^ |
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| I thought the whole "Princess gets captured by badguy" thing usually happened in the middle of series.. not in the beginning. I thought it was kinda dumb. |
| I can't help but think that Ryuji reminds me of Shinji a little.....just saying. Either way, this series is proving to be interesting. Also, was the seiyū for Onyx Kamiya, Hiroshi? |
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| I want to like this series more than I actually do right now. So far, very average. There's potential, so I hope it gets a lot better. Let's meet some other level 10 breakers and see what someone of that caliber can actually do. |
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Daidragon1990 said: Pretty much what I was thinking.I can't help but think that Ryuji reminds me of Shinji a little.....just saying. Though he's displaying these terrible traits much earlier. Oh well. |
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Hoppy said: Seemed to me that he was a adult dragon and Rose realized fighting him would have been meaningless.Kanade-chan said: bleh. I thought Rose gonna fight against Brack Dragon ._. Same here but there's always next episode. Tho i agree it kind of sucks and i don't like the direction this is going. Ryuji's mother doesn't seem to be a very good mother based on her short phone call and his reaction. I am wondering how she looks tho. Guess it will have to wait for next week. The bad guy seems to be a narcissist with lolicon intentions who doesn't like hurting woman, in other words he doesn't have any points of interest which is a bit disappointing. |
| Lol Onyx reminds me of Otonashi and Orihara Izaya whenever he talks cuz of his seiyuu. |
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| Excellent episode once again, well-animated, with nice developments and really entertaining. Cool stuff. |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| Didn't try to protect her? He actually did tried but didn't have any power!! Relic Handler!! You can see in the picture he is holding up a weapon. But feel like he don't have made a contractor or something like that to be able to use his power. I dunno too short information of that. Not really nice to call him pathetic! Oh yeah I know it's fun to see battle, well to be honest I was quite disappointed on this episode. Slowpace anime for being just 12 episodes. |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| The OP is so addicting. -__- I thought it was a nice episode and I like the way they're setting up the characters and moving the plot along, I'm still curious about the other characters in the OP that haven't been introduced yet. |
| lol IDIOTS wont really get the whole point: 1. People who think that he is pathetic is because of his psychological issues. He already stated that he doesn't want to get involved with lost precious or something beyond that because of his reactions with his mother. He became hesitant by judging with his actions. I know he is level 10 breaker (one of the 7 level 10s) which I think it means he has powers or whatever it is to stand against the black dragon. With this kind of route, Ryuji will definitely change his mind and will save Rose. 2. It is obvious that Rose didn't fight with the black dragon. Remember that the professor said she is a whelp and obviously the dude is an adult because of his wings. There's no way Rose could take him down that's why she surrendered and followed him in order to save Ryuji and the gang. Rose chose the right choice even though its against her will with all those tears. Poor Rose :( I hope this helps. Can't wait for the next episode |
| Male lead is whiny, had a oh so terrible childhood, is indecisive as hell, is good natured, has some hidden powers and can’t deal with girls…seriously, couldn’t the creator made him any more generic? At least Kugimiya finally got a role again, that is not totally annoying…still an otaku-pandering character… DenjaX said: lol IDIOTS wont really get the whole point: 1. People who think that he is pathetic is because of his psychological issues. He already stated that he doesn't want to get involved with lost precious or something beyond that because of his reactions with his mother. He became hesitant by judging with his actions. I know he is level 10 breaker (one of the 7 level 10s) which I think it means he has powers or whatever it is to stand against the black dragon. With this kind of route, Ryuji will definitely change his mind and will save Rose. This is the very reason people complain. This sounds so terribly cliched... |
mljato said: LOL you're right. There's also a thing that I feel that black dragon would become an ally after their battle xDD maybe im wrong but yeah cliche indeed but I don't really care. My point is they should try to understand their situation. It may be cliche but it reflects life. Perhaps I would be the one complaining if Ryuuji suddenly became GAR and beat the black dragon's ass in the laboratory since that is realistically impossible unless he has reasons. Just give him time to reflect lolol "He is still growing" xDDDenjaX said: lol IDIOTS wont really get the whole point: 1. People who think that he is pathetic is because of his psychological issues. He already stated that he doesn't want to get involved with lost precious or something beyond that because of his reactions with his mother. He became hesitant by judging with his actions. I know he is level 10 breaker (one of the 7 level 10s) which I think it means he has powers or whatever it is to stand against the black dragon. With this kind of route, Ryuji will definitely change his mind and will save Rose. This is the very reason people complain. This sounds so terribly cliched... |
| Poor Rose... Onyx is HOT and quite the master of badassery. |
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| This remains me so much of eva(shinji)... being able to do/use something great/strong (leave 10 should mean something =S) but not willing to use it out of his own will. This is looking great so far can't wait for next week ^^ I though he was going to do something awesome before she leaves, but apparently he didn't have the right tools to help her atm. He does states that he is "not an insect" so I hope next episode he starts kicking some ass. |
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TMultimate said: Lol Onyx reminds me of Otonashi and Orihara Izaya whenever he talks cuz of his seiyuu. Just wanted to point that out :D Even though his strength is more Shizuoish :D |
| Dem clubcards are big.. http://ilyasviel.mybrute.com |
| I kept waiting for him to show us what a level 10 breaker can do, but nothing. Made sense though. I'm pretty sure Breakers specialize in the use of relics. I just makes sense considering that they're somehow connected to this organization geared towards the gathering and studying of relics. Basically he was unarmed. Seriously though. This episode was so sad :( not at all what I was expecting after last week. |
BloodyFerrum said: who is holding hands with rose in the op? is he ryuuji? if he is ryuuji. why is the hand of ryuuji glowing blue in the OP? is he a dragon? thats most likely the so called imprinting, she will probably be doing. didnt look like dragon scales. lol. episode was somewhat cliche, but atleast its developing quicker then most. |
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Despite Rose being cute and talking more, which right away was cute and so Rie, there are 3 things I hated in this episode in regards to Rose. For one Rose being treated like some research subject is never a like to me in any animes I have seen. The way Onyx treated Rose was horrible, a forced marriage because of a necklace? Really? How low of Onyx not to consider Rose's current feelings for Ryuji. The worst last thing is seeing Ryuji make Rose cry because of his stupid ass lame complex of loneliness due to not getting enough attention from his parents. That is lame and weak for a main character. Poor Rose Other than that, I liked how Ryuji met Rose for the first time and how it is shown. The explanation of dragon being protected by barriers. Imprinting is interesting too in how to obtain a dragon's powers. Looks like Etou not only has a shy complex of talking to guys but a jealous complex of Rose from how she acted in class. That bitch of Onyx Kai looks rather nasty and cold like. However, that blade she used looked nice. Which brings me to Onyx being way too powerful. He can put to sleep people with hist mist, created tornadoes to lift things up and melt things like acid? WTF power. I hope Rose gets rescued nicely and next episode might also be Ryuji's contract forming with Rose. Also WTF are breakers? Only 7 level 10s in the world? Interesting. |
| Eva With Dragons? - They better stop that with the next episode, or two or ill have to drop it. I like Rose and Eriko .. Ryuji was alright in the first episode.. He came across as a .. well person who is rather unlikeable and useless. so ya Eva-Shinji we just need him to cry >.> So im hoping for a turn around. im Sure a level 10 could actually put up a fight its just he A holds backs on purpose, and by the time he even wants to try to do anything hes been sort of owned, and Rose has to save his pathetic ass. But I like everyone else expected to see at least some fighting back.. the Grunts fought harder than the progtagonist.. that usually isnt a good sign. for the episode to be great. And this is only a 12 episoder so.. they best turn it around in 3 and get to more plot by 4 |
DenjaX said: As much as I agree with you all, I think it will be more emotional and amazing that Ryuji realizes his powers trough his emotions towards Rose. he need to wake the fuck up and realize Rose is more than just some relic. She is something alive that want his affection, whether he marries her or does some ecchi does not matter now IMO or what he thinks, he needs to realize who Rose is really for him. Gangler said: Yes my friend this episode was sad indeed. Regardless I think his holding his powers might be due to his past with his parents leaving him and thinking their work is more important than their show. A classical situation but the approach in this anime in regards to Rose x Ryuji and his problem will be resolved by her is what I want to see.I kept waiting for him to show us what a level 10 breaker can do, but nothing. Made sense though. I'm pretty sure Breakers specialize in the use of relics. I just makes sense considering that they're somehow connected to this organization geared towards the gathering and studying of relics. Basically he was unarmed.Seriously though. This episode was so sad :( not at all what I was expecting after last week. |
| I liked the episode, but I wanted Rose to fuck Black Dragon up. x) When she grabbed his hand, I was waiting for her to blast his arm off. 5/5 <3 |
NoVaGamester said: When she grabbed his hand, I was waiting for her to blast his arm off. too bad she didnt, lol. |
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| BIATCH!!!! How dare they make Rose cry?!?!?! >: ( Eurgh Ryuuji is so mean and indecisive, doesn't make for a good main lead as of so. Lets hope he DOES do something with that power of his. Poor poor rose : O Onyx may be hot but he's one of the worst. The music is awesome : D |
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Yumekichi11 said: This part sounds a bit confused to me. I don't think she's being forced to marry because she has the necklace. I think she has the necklace because they have been arranged to marry each other. Basically a dragon engagement ring. The rest is all spot on. The way Onyx treated Rose was horrible, a forced marriage because of a necklace? Really? I'd argue though that onyx is OP because he's... well, a dragon. That's just how dragons are. The most powerful of earths warriors band together to slay a dragon, and likely only manage to die an painful death if they even manage to wake the guy up. Their dying thoughts are the realization of the mistaken arrogance that led them to this situation. Honestly, if all he'd had was some minor flame manipulation that would have disappointed me. It'd be like if they had a God type character who's only notable power was walking on water. It'd be a degradation to the point that the name is no longer appropriate. Rose hasn't even grown her wings yet and she can roast a city block. I think this speaks volumes about dragons as a race within this setting. |
Aversa said: The bad guy seems to be a narcissist with lolicon intentions who doesn't like hurting woman, in other words he doesn't have any points of interest which is a bit disappointing. Seriously. Protagonist is just as bad. Rose is full of d'awwwww but Ryuuji was just a whiny bitch. Boohoo your parents suck. Welcome to 80% of the world. At least you have a fucking (ADAWWWABLE) dragon that is completely infatuated with you. Stop crying and look down. Is that a vagina? No? Then man up. |
| There's a reason why Ryuuji acted the way he did. I'd love to spoil it, but it's funnier watching people's asinine comments... |
| well at least our hero is not a hero yet. lol if they really wanted to be realistic, he should have just died...but we have a story to tell here. |
Yumekichi11 said: DenjaX said: As much as I agree with you all, I think it will be more emotional and amazing that Ryuji realizes his powers trough his emotions towards Rose. he need to wake the fuck up and realize Rose is more than just some relic. She is something alive that want his affection, whether he marries her or does some ecchi does not matter now IMO or what he thinks, he needs to realize who Rose is really for him. Definitely true. I think this aspect of the show will be very fun to watch so long as they don't go the "Which girl do I choose?" angle. I always hate that approach because it always seems to me like the decision is obvious. Hitman reborn. You like 2 girls. 1 likes you back. Decision made. To Luv Ru. Likes 2 girls. 1 likes him back, and his choosing that girl will save the galaxy, also iirc make him heir to the throne and he'll inherit wealth and power. How is that decision possibly not the easiest decision ever made? Anyway, rant aside I definitely want to see how the relationship develops, as right now it could be just about anything. Romantic. Parental. Comrades at arms. Just close friends who share an understanding of loneliness. The sky is the limit. Yumekichi11 said: You think she'll help him get over the issues that are holding him back? I don't know why I hadn't thought of that, but it could be a very fun level. He seems right now to be an extraordinary individual living a very ordinary life. Perhaps they'll turn this into a "The making of the man" type story and we'll get to see the legendary figure's humble origins.Gangler said: Yes my friend this episode was sad indeed. Regardless I think his holding his powers might be due to his past with his parents leaving him and thinking their work is more important than their show. A classical situation but the approach in this anime in regards to Rose x Ryuji and his problem will be resolved by her is what I want to see.I kept waiting for him to show us what a level 10 breaker can do, but nothing. Made sense though. I'm pretty sure Breakers specialize in the use of relics. I just makes sense considering that they're somehow connected to this organization geared towards the gathering and studying of relics. Basically he was unarmed.Seriously though. This episode was so sad :( not at all what I was expecting after last week. |
NoVaGamester said: Me too I also wished it would have happened but I believe Rose did that so that no one gets endangered anymore.I liked the episode, but I wanted Rose to fuck Black Dragon up. x) When she grabbed his hand, I was waiting for her to blast his arm off. anime_rulez71 said: Totally the attitude I had when Ryuji did that, hence why I bitch at his conflict being lame ass and weak. I hope this is only to make his growth look better but at the price of making the main female cry? Not cool is you ask me.BIATCH!!!! How dare they make Rose cry?!?!?! >: ( Gangler said: You think she'll help him get over the issues that are holding him back? I don't know why I hadn't thought of that, but it could be a very fun level. He seems right now to be an extraordinary individual living a very ordinary life. Perhaps they'll turn this into a "The making of the man" type story and we'll get to see the legendary figure's humble origins. I think it would be great to see Rose and Onyx's origins and how it made to current times that things from the medieval time still survived up to now.Gangler said: My point may be confusing but I meant that a necklace means nothing if it is not recognized by the person wearing it and I am sure Rose would give it up. Pre-arranged marriage also should not done since most of the time that is what caused the deaths of many women during the non-divorce times of the medieval times. Onyx is just selfish fool who never bothered to ask Rose feelings but just respects a engagement that is deemed highly important due to Rose's royal nature.Yumekichi11 said: This part sounds a bit confused to me. I don't think she's being forced to marry because she has the necklace. I think she has the necklace because they have been arranged to marry each other. Basically a dragon engagement ring. The rest is all spot on. The way Onyx treated Rose was horrible, a forced marriage because of a necklace? Really? Gangler said: I agree but it seems that the only way to fight dragons is with other dragons and that is sad because there does not seem to be any human to stop them less weapons get developed.I'd argue though that onyx is OP because he's... well, a dragon. That's just how dragons are. The most powerful of earths warriors band together to slay a dragon, and likely only manage to die an painful death if they even manage to wake the guy up. Their dying thoughts are the realization of the mistaken arrogance that led them to this situation. Gangler said: Agreed but I also think making things too powerful can upset certain balances, I think the counter is including other Dragons such as the Blue Ones that have water as power, the Yellow Ones who can use Lighting and we need the classical White Ones, which use the opposite of what Onyx used.Honestly, if all he'd had was some minor flame manipulation that would have disappointed me. It'd be like if they had a God type character who's only notable power was walking on water. It'd be a degradation to the point that the name is no longer appropriate. Rose hasn't even grown her wings yet and she can roast a city block. I think this speaks volumes about dragons as a race within this setting. |
Yumekichi11Jan 17, 2011 9:50 PM
| Taig- I mean Rose goes with the black dragon. Let`s see what will happen. |
| inb4 Ryuuji becomes a Dragon Slayer. (not the Fairy Tail definition, but rather more akin to Grey Wardens from Dragon Age being literal Dragon Slayers, or becoming one in Forgotten Realms settings when you kill dragons). |
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| whats with the lvl10 or 7 thing ... o-o |
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| another wuss protagonist is born i dunno why writers keep making this same type of character, might drop this anime solely because of ryuuji |
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