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Jun 5, 2008 7:32 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Reuental's disadvantages keep adding up. Troop morale is still shaky, Iserlohn won't cooperate by holding the Empire at bay, and two of his admirals look to defect. Although it looks like Reuental will be the one to fall, Mittermeyer better not lose heart because of close ties to his friend. He still has a wife to return to.

Even though she agrees with Julian, Karin is showing tsundere tendencies. Julian gave a wise decision in not siding with Reuental. He made sound arguments befitting of one in his position.
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Jun 5, 2008 7:38 PM

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Reuentahl lives with honor.

I thought it was cool how Vice Admiral Murai was the messenger. Good memories.

I miss all these characters now that I've finished the whole show.

Even though Troop morale is shaky, Reuentahl's competence is in how he keeps them well disciplined.

I also like the conversation between Reuentahl and Mittermeyer. Their relationship touches my soul.
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Aug 23, 2009 4:42 PM
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Karin is tsundere in this episode. That made me laugh quite a bit....

Reuental is partially doing this for his own pride and partially to amend for Reinhard's boredom. In that aspect, he is closer to the role of Oberstein....
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Oct 28, 2009 2:09 AM

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Why did Poplan hide when he saw Murai? I don't remember what happened between them.


 
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Murai was the stern older man who would keep Poplan's indiscrepancies in check as I recall, often with a pronounced throat clearing. I guess it's like a misbehaving school boy who's been given free reign suddenly gets a surprise visit from the teacher. :) I am aware of no actual serious dispute and assume Poplan sidling off was purely a comedic device, which is appropriate enough for the loveable rogue comic relief.
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Eh, all these 90-95 episodes i've been thinking about this ... what about the millions of soldiers etc that are going to die in this pointless war, just because of some peoples pride. I'd say Reuental etc are nothing more than dirt.
Comrades fighting between themselves, millions of wives, children and parents suffering for this, war trauma.


 
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Katerose being tsundere...I figured as much when I first saw her, so seeing her acting that way didn't come as a surprise. What did suprise me was when Poplan ran the moment he saw Murai step down from his ship to deliver Reuenthal's proposal. It was exactly like a bad student running away from a teacher.

Julian refusing to side with Reuenthal was for the best, knowing that this fight was strictly between him and Reinhard. I'm interested to see what happens to Iserlohn as it becomes witness to Reuenthal and Reinhard's battle.

It's sad when Wolfgang failed to persuade Reinhard to talk things over with Reuenthal previously, it was even sadder when Muller failed to do so as well despite saving Reinhard's life. I just know it'll be painful to watch this battle between two best friends.
 
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A lot of interesting dialogue in this episode..
It must be hard for Julian not to get involved in this opportunity, but it's probably the right thing to do. I wonder if the soldiers will be more supportive after a victory. The first battle will really decide very much.


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Reuenthal's development is really good and show he is full of contradictions, though
his self-loathing is waht really characterizes him.
The talk betwwen the twin stars was very moving as it showed how much they appreciate and esteem each other.
So sad that Reuenthal is kind of getting "mad" and don't accept Mittermeyer's offer. Once again, the latter shows how good of a man he is, by avoiding an attrition war in order for siblings or comrades from the Empire not to fight against each other. As compared with Lonhengramm or Reuenthal, he is at least an admiral that doesn't want to shed blood for nothing.
 
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Q-Infinity said:
Reuentahl lives with honor.


Reuenthal is a...



I wonder if Mittermeyer will have enough strength to face him up...that's going to be the most emotional battle yet if so

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Sayonara,papa!


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Jan 8, 2011 1:51 AM

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Wow, the conversation between Reuental and Mittermeyer has to be my favorite scene in the whole series so far... So well written and executed... the emotions are so real! This is a conflict that has been silently brewing the entire series, I can't wait to see how this turns out!!
 
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Julian ruined this episode, AGAIN.
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
 
Mar 18, 2011 2:51 PM
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Incredible conversion between Reuenthal and Mittermeyer. Came at just the right time, too, since I've begun to lose a lot of respect for the plot.

Also,
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Julian ruined this episode, AGAIN.
 
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Confucius said:
Julian ruined this episode, AGAIN.

Like you ruin the comments section?
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Feb 19, 2012 6:27 AM

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Reuenthal and Mittermeyer...;-;
I loved their conversation, it's so beautiful how they still trust each other and so sad to see them getting ready to fight their best friend. All those emotions :(
 
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Sabinlerose said:
Confucius said:
Julian ruined this episode, AGAIN.

Like you ruin the comments section?
=D


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Sabinlerose said:
Confucius said:
Julian ruined this episode, AGAIN.

Like you ruin the comments section?
=D

Haha
 
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Confucius said:
Julian ruined this episode, AGAIN.


He and his friends ruin every episode.


Kircheis is everywhere
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This was the thirtieth or so episode that brought me to say, "that was the best episode in the series." It's not that I have a short-term memory; it's that the awesomeness of these episodes blocks out my long-term memories.

Mittermeyer and Reuenthal's conversation had an impact that was analogous (though not similar) to Reinhard and Yang's meeting in episode 54. The conversation was inevitable, but its inevitability made it even more monumental. If anyone was still questioning Reuenthal's motives for "rebelling" against Reinhard, that conversation should've put those questions to rest.

At the end of season 3 I said that Reinhard fit the mold of an Aristotelian tragic hero, but it was an oversight to not recognize that Reuenthal also does, and probably moreso. That of course is dependent on the conclusion to season 4 -- will either Reinhard or Reuenthal suffer a downfall at the hand of their respective tragic flaws? -- but the concept of a conflict between two tragic heroes is...neat.

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Kircheis is everywhere


Well it's obviously called the "Siegfried Kircheis Battlefield Honor" because the red stripe is sewn with a lock of his hair. He literally is everywhere.
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I wanted to cry while I was seeing that conversation of Reuenthal and Mittermeyer.. So sad those friends must have a duel..
I have a bad feeling that Reuenthal will not have a chance to face Kaiser because he will lose to Mittermeyer in the end maybe..

And btw I am almost forgot about Alliance lol, not a bad development although I am still not interested in Julian and Kate's relationship at all ... :p
 
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Jim_Heart said:
I wanted to cry while I was seeing that conversation of Reuenthal and Mittermeyer.. So sad those friends must have a duel..
I have a bad feeling that Reuenthal will not have a chance to face Kaiser because he will lose to Mittermeyer in the end maybe..


The best shippiest-ship ship ever, literally... Reuenthal and Mittermeyer. (;A;)
 
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This is so intense, I'm getting pumped even if it's just talking right now. I'm feeling both side's desire.
 
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So . . . Few funny things happened in this episode. Though the biggest point for me (oddly enough) is what is going to happen to Reinhard's child? I wonder if he will ever even learn it existed or if their will be a miscarriage/abortion before he gets back . . . Anyways that whole mess with Hilda is getting worse.

Anyways, I wonder if Reuenthal will take out Mittenmeyer, that would suck, to lose both Fleet Admirals in one go. Would certainly lower the Empire's military power . . . Although with no enemy force (terrorists / Iserlohn don't count) their really is no need for one.
 
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Awesome episode. Some serious shit is about to go down in next few episodes.
 
Aug 12, 2014 5:37 AM

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;___; Ugh, I hate this whole conflict. The one arc of the series so far that I'm not really buying into.
 
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Dam this whole situation really sucks. Two great characters and friends are going to have to fight each other just because of some scheming bastards plotting in the shadows. This is almost, if not as bad, as if we would've had to watch Kircheis and Reinhard fight each other :(
 
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I'm kind of sick of Reinhard and Julian mourning over Kircheis and Wenli every episode.
 
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It's sad to see Reuntal and Mittermeyer's relationship fall apart like that.
 
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This is getting so good... I really don't want Reuental to fight against his bro but I guess he got no choice. Oh well, I'm excited for this battle already.
 
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Very impressive development but I sure didn't expect that ending between Reuntal and Mittermeyer! Looking forward to see what's next.
 
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Vexper said:
;___; Ugh, I hate this whole conflict. The one arc of the series so far that I'm not really buying into.


This
 
Jul 28, 2015 12:38 AM

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Reuental's death seems imminent at this point. I'm feeling bad for Mittermeyer :(
 
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Probably one of the most valiant deaths ever.
 
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I really wished that these two didn't have to fight :/

I can't believe there's still Imperial soldiers that doesn't get that the Kaiser doesn't take too well to traitors, regardless of what side they are on. Grillparzer and Knappstein are in for a rude awakening.
 
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The Reuenthal rebellion was very painful for me to watch several years ago. It still resonates with me, nothing has changed since then.

The conversation of two friends was one of the best moments of this episode.
Reuenthal is my favourite character from the LoGH (slightly above Yang) but iin this situation I can relate to Mittermeyer's feelings.
It was very difficult for him.
If I were in his place, I would try to do the same - to convince Reuenthal to sober up. :P
Oh yes, I think that Reuenthal behaves like an idiot here.
It's hard for me to understand Oskar's voluntary submission to Oberstein's & Lang's schemes and his harsh words towards Wolfie.
I enjoyed Mittermeyer's line: "We all must wake up from our dreams sometime. After we wake up, what happens then?". So true!
Although Reuenthal's answer was also good. And "the Senior and Junior Emperor" made me smile. So absurd, it's almost cute.
 
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The Julian´s decision was the best!!!


Hello, my litte boy!


 
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Yeah so Reinhard and Reuental continue to be two arseholes while Mittermeyer and Muller are just the best.

Grillparzer is a twat too. He knows Reuental didn't do anything wrong for a fact but is keeping it to himself in order to get a promotion. Jerk.

Julian made the right choice, sadly. Hopefully the Empire completely implodes.

Power rankings:

1) Empire. They will win this battle but likely will lose a couple of admirals including Mittermeyer.
2) Julian. Yeah, they made the right choice.
3) Reuental. Any chance they have now is over thanks to Julian.
4) Phezzan
5) Earth Cult- This plot is going to have to be resolved soon....
5) Goldenbaums. They got another mention.

MVP: Muller. He tried, but Reinhard is just a war hungry tyrant that he won't listen.
 
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I know several characters said it was strategically and politically unwise for Julian to join with Reuenthal, but I still really wanted to see the outcome of those two on the same team. Julian already respects Reuenthal quite a bit just from analyzing his decisions.
 
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JohnWoo said:
Yeah so Reinhard and Reuental continue to be two arseholes while Mittermeyer and Muller are just the best.

Grillparzer is a twat too. He knows Reuental didn't do anything wrong for a fact but is keeping it to himself in order to get a promotion. Jerk.

Julian made the right choice, sadly. Hopefully the Empire completely implodes.

Power rankings:

1) Empire. They will win this battle but likely will lose a couple of admirals including Mittermeyer.
2) Julian. Yeah, they made the right choice.
3) Reuental. Any chance they have now is over thanks to Julian.
4) Phezzan
5) Earth Cult- This plot is going to have to be resolved soon....
5) Goldenbaums. They got another mention.

MVP: Muller. He tried, but Reinhard is just a war hungry tyrant that he won't listen.

I don't think you understand the definition of the word "tyrant".

While there's definitely a lack of communication between Reuenthal and the Kaiser, Reuenthal is undoubtedly in the wrong here. Upon being setup, he was too prideful to try and clear his name. However, there's also the mutual element of desiring a worthy opponent - I feel he's trying to fulfill the Kaiser's wishes just as much as his own. The Kaiser has had the deaths of both Friedrich von Goldenbaum and Yang Wenli taken from him, so his feelings are understandable. He's a little too fiery for his own good, but he's far from bloodthirsty or a tyrant (so far).
 
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