Tachii said: Kaiji is the real antithesis of this trend. I don't think I saw the face of a single female (even side characters) in all of first season. Will watch second season soon. Second season goes and ruins it by having a ridiculously hot daughter :( |
| If those were strong/powerfull/inteligent female characters it would be ok with me.But most of them are weak/not so bright/always needs to be protected.And if some of them are intelligent/powerfull then they are mostly psychotic yandere/extremely tsundere. Most of animes really lack good female characters.There are plenty of them but they are just no good :// |
SarinaMoonshine said: If those were strong/powerfull/inteligent female characters it would be ok with me.But most of them are weak/not so bright/always needs to be protected.And if some of them are intelligent/powerfull then they are mostly psychotic yandere/extremely tsundere. Most of animes really lack good female characters.There are plenty of them but they are just no good ://[/quote Then I'd have to question what you'd call "good" female characters. If an anime has a mix of genders then I can find a good female character just as easily as I can find a weak male character. I just keep in mind that gender roles still apply and go thinking a female character needs male traits in order to be seen as good or strong. |
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| Anime_Name: Well that is subjectively. For me a "good" female character is powerfull/inteligent/with strong personality.And mostly not stupid/weak/clumsy/obsessed with something too weird or with idiot guy/yandere/extremely tsundere (if she is just a bit tsundere its okay).Of course,there are some (rare) exceptions. |
SarinaMoonshineJun 21, 2012 3:30 PM
i don't understand your point. are you asking whether the aesthetics in an illustration is important (because it is), in terms of the quality of the show? My question is how would simply changing the aesthetics of a character be an improvement for the character and story. Why would changing the vision of the artist to match what you like make their story or characters better? it's true that large breasts may be more "popular" in terms of aesthetic appeal, but a focus on aesthetic appeal in your illustration can lead to a lower quality story (like trading artistic freedom for what is popular). This assumes no artists chooses to focus on breast sizes of their own free volition. If large breast are popular with fans then can not large breasts also be popular with the artists that draw the material and/or can't artists also be fans that enjoy large breasts? I don't even agree with the idea that large breasts are "more popular" but just that it is just a fetish some people hold similarly to the preferring small breasts. Any attempt to satisfy the large breast fetish is done to entertain those that like large breasts and not aimed at people who would prefer small breasts. Changing aesthetics here would just be trading one group for the other and that when a member of one group wants something changed to fit there ideals it is an example of them saying their likes are more important than the members of the other group. cliched and ineffective = artist shit. That's only because you are arguing from the standpoint of not liking it. There's no actual correlation to breast size and quality of a story. |
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| I know this sounds stupid, but my theory is since the majority of the anime/manga authors are male they tend to draw more female characters than male characters. I don't know, but this is just my opinion. |
| Did you say "nerd"? ---------------------- Not "nerd" -- "node". |
SarinaMoonshine said: Anime_Name: Well that is subjectively. For me a "good" female character is powerfull/inteligent/with strong perssonality.And mostly not stupid/weak/clumsy/yandere/extremely tsundere (if she is just a bit tsundere its okay). The subjectivity is why I am questioning what you'd call "good". I see no lacking of powerful/intelligent women being used in anime, as can find a number of powerful/intelligent women in any anime with mixed genders. |
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| I agree with everything Anime_Name has said thus far. There's no use fixing what's not broken. |
やがて気づく本当の気持ちは そして 人間が大好きでした |
Unfortunately the first part is what led to the misguided phrase "Sex Sells". One would be very uninformed to interpret that phrase literally. The alternative and longer phrase is "Sex in advertising." And the conclusion is the sex in advertising does sell products, that's all. The phrase is not a measure of effectiveness and is product dependent. A large majority of Harem/ecchi/cute girl shows sell less than 3000 copies I have to say your conclusion is wonky and misleading as the majority of any particular genre sells less than 3000 copies per volume. |
Anime_NameJun 21, 2012 4:33 PM
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| It's not bad, it just is. I don't care for most of it so I don't watch it. I wish there was more of the kind of stuff I like but the fact that there isn't lets me dig up more old stuff or do something not related to anime. Fancy that. |
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Hoppy said: Anime is still a male dominated subculture with most of these catered to the young or older male audience and these males lust for women and possibly young girls, so the best way of promoting anime is to only advertise the female characters. I like the harem genre anyway as long as the females are good. This... |
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I did say Eroticism in Advertising, and yes in a few instances sex being associated with a product such as Axe or Calvin Klein have improved sales. However for the majority instances where it has been used it did not have an effect on sales. It was also directed at the original question in the thread which was why there were so many females being crammed into a series as possible, to which I answered that there exists a misconception that T&A automatically = increased sales. It's more like you're starting an argument no one was making and are getting it wrong in the process. The claim that sex sells in advertisements is not about improved sales or T&A increasing sales. For the sake of this topic there's no means to measure how much better K-ON! sold because of the number of girls in it since there's no K-ON! without girls to compare it to. The only misconception here is your argument that T&A = increased sales when the real claim is T&A= a proven way to make sales. My conclusion was only addressing the idea that adding elements of ecchi/harem/cute to a show guaranteed success, to which I disagreed with. I posted the top sellers of each year for a few years to show how varied they were, perhaps I should point out that they all vary wildly in terms of genre. Several of which include the previously mentioned elements. You were still talking about how a majority of harem/ecchi/cute girl shows sell less than 3000. I called this deceptive because only the minority of any genre make great sales and the majority don't sell very well. You were being deceptive by only calling attention to the genres you wanted to talk about. |
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| If they are putting this many female characters into the series they must think it will attract viewers. Personally I don't mind as long as they are not really annoying or get in the way of the story. |
| If strength is justice, then is powerlessness a crime? |
Orangespike said: If T&A is a proven way to make sales, then provide the proof please. Queen's Blade's figurines Megami Magazine Eroges What kind of proof do you need other than looking at the fact there is a market for sexual products to support the statement; "T&A is a proven way to make sales". Saying T&A = increased sales isn't an accurate way to interpret the phrase because in most cases there isn't a non-T&A like-product for comparison. Megami Mag sells because of the titillation is offers, whether it sells more or less than a non-T&A magazine is beside the point. The sex is what sells it. Also, please stop twisting my words to mean what you want them to mean. If your words didn't twist the meaning of the phrase I wouldn't need to untwist them. |
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