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| incest but lovely! 09/10 |
OmegaDenmad said: Strong finale; I like good endings, and Sora and Haruka being so happy definitely qualifies. All in all, this series score would be 10/10 for the final arc only, but it had it's ups and downs in between. Haruka's dilemma was handled well, and for all the drama the situation could (and did) cause, I feel it was examined without getting too preachy or TOO smutty. Kuro4735 said: Poor Class rep though, I didn't think it would hit her as hard as it actually did. I think it would be hard on anyone to find the person you like (however unrequited and small that "like", it was still a teenage crush) having sex with someone and actually watch the climax. But then to find the person with their brother/sister... Therapist needed indeed. Specially since she is basically a vocal piece for all the people that condemn this series for the incest.  Hopefully she will get over it, it's pretty sad that the only path dealing with Kozue ends with a BAD END for her lol. Man,I would have really like to see her get banged by Haru. |
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SurferDude said: And in the end, twincest triumphs over all. This episode played out pretty much as I expected/hoped it would. I am EXTREMELY happy that this arc had a good ending, with Sora and Haru riding on a Nice Train together. 10/10 from me for this series. Some people might call it smut, but I call it Art. Definitely one of the best anime that I had the pleasure of viewing. I agree with you, baby. |
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| Ha, so in the game Sora CAN swim, i think we found a plot hole in the adaptation! anywho, as someone who doesn't think they're dead i have to say i'm glad Sora got a good ending, i was afraid they were gonna give her a horrible ending. and Nao got more respect points from me in this episode than in her entire arc, where as Kozue can go jump of a cliff. but with Motoka being my favorite, this was one of the best screens in the whole anime |
| Please keep the disussion of the overlap from the VN compared to the anime to a minimum, or drastic measures might be taken. |
| I can't believe how calm and forgiving Nao was. Of course, i feel sorry for her, but mostly for Kozue :( I couldn't stand to watch her cry... i guess it was inevitable, with a 'kyoudai love' setting. Too bad Kozue didn't have her own arc, but at least she expressed her feelings. I think that's important. But i would feel very sad for Sora too, if he left her or ignored her after everything.. it would be cruel and cowardly; but i can't blame Haru either, cuz he had a tough decision and a lot of pressure from every side. I think they had good friends (and girlfriends), and the choice to leave them was probably hard. For me it's difficult to rate this anime, cuz i was disappointed from the beginning - cuz it was done in arcs, which usually means worse story structure and the atmosphere seems fake; but it wasn't that bad in a way... it was done better than usual arc harems >.> I don't know how the story is done compared to VN cuz i never played it nor have i read the manga, but from my viewpoint it was ok i guess. (except i wish all 12 episodes were done as one arc instead of alternative time shifts. I wish it was like what they did with Kimikiss! that's the best example of how an arc-harem can be adapted in a great way) But i enjoyed watching this, it was 'appetizing' :P it had potential (which wasn't used fully), good artwork, interesting story and it drew my attention every week. And that's a sign of an ok or good anime. As the anime season is nearing it's end, another series ended. Gonna miss it.. Good luck to Haru and Sora. Their relationship makes me a little sad, but i'm not against it. Never am strictly against these kinds of relationships. So i hope they find what happiness they can, on the difficult road they bravely chose. P.s. Motoka was as silly as always lol Haru got 'all in one' with that girl :D But i still didn't get my Yahiro-nee arc :( even a mini arc would suffice :P Hoping for the specials then ;) |
Captain-Z said: YOU ARE ALL OVERTHINKING THIS SHOW WAY TOO MUCK!!!! lol you said 'MUCK' :) Don't worry, it's not a crime to overthink; but it can only be a problem if they spoil something for others, which i doubt since it's the final episode. |
Captain-Z said: Less thinking and more fapping!YOU ARE ALL OVERTHINKING THIS SHOW WAY TOO MUCK!!!! |
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| Well, not as good as compared to last episode which was amazing, but I still liked it. I really liked the president character, now I want her to have an arc. |
| So, in the end we were given two good (enough) episodes... damn, it was a failure as an anime. I've already said everything about this anime in the discussion about the 11th episode, so I'll just say: "and once again the adaptation proved to be definitely worse than the original game". 4/10. |
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| So, there we are. It was one hell of a ride. Poor Kozue taking it so hard, all red-eyed and stuff. Then there's the confrontation between Nao and Sora on the rooftop and between Kozue and Haruka plus even more drama. Haruka sexually frustrated once more and forcing Sora on the ground only to hesitate and letting it result into a fight. Sora just didn't see anything wrong about love between siblings, but Haruka actually thought it through. Sora kind of deserved that slap for constantly forcing it on him. It's like he said; "Don't say it's like it's nothing", just what I was thinking. Sora didn't like the thought of living apart now did she? Trashing up the kitchen, after that her own room, disappearing like that and going to that lake because she believed in that stupid story. They nearly drowned but thankfully Sora came to the rescue in the end. I'm happy Nao actually understands what they're going through and that she tries to believe in it working out. Kozue on the other hand refuses. I always though of her as a nice character who should get her own arc. She's still interesting, but I don't like her as much anymore. =( Now that they can begin anew overseas, the series is finally over now. It was a weird ride, with much drama, some funny scenes and way too much sex scenes. =P Overall the series gets a 7/10 from me. |
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| Okay so they are ALIVE, that's all I wanna know xDDD (note: not a VN reader) So I guess leaving the town is the best choice for every incestuous relationship eh xDD I was thinking that they would do the other way because I've seen this scenario before *cough*Myself;Yourself*cough* xDD Oh well, I love the drama in this arc. I could only sympathize with them crossing the line of a relationship. It's not that I support incestuous relationship. As long as they love each other, that's all that really matter and they will overcome the hardships together. xDD On the other hand: I really love Sora's clothes especially at the end >.< RYOUHEI WILL HAVE HIS HAREM NOW SINCE HARUKA IS GONE XDD lmao |
DenjaXDec 21, 2010 2:00 PM
| I notice the ribbons on Sora's hair changes with her mood. She had on white ribbons as a child, wore black ribbons ever since after the death of her parents and towards the end she was seen wearing white ribbons on the train with Haru. I love subtle symbolism. <333 |
| well i don't really knoiw why but i really didn't like this last arc, i think the arc before where much better. well in the whole it was an ok series but nothing i would say someone have to see or one that i would watch a 2nd time. |
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.  |
| LOVED THE ENDING!!! Are they alive are they dead??? It's always great to leave the audience wondering whether or not they are alive. Sora's arc was by far the best one, I wish the whole 12 episodes would have been only about Haruka and Sora. Either way, in my OPINION, this is the best ending to a Visual Novel that I have EVER seen. YES that's right, this is BETTER than Clannad MAGIC, Kanon MAGIC, and Angel Beats.....I mean the ending not the entire show. 8/10.....would have been higher if it wasn't for all the other useless and stupid girls. |
| Twincest ending! xD |
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alexcampos said: I still think the Ef series beats all this anytime. Sora's arc is the closest I have seen to Ef but to me it does not beat it, especially the first one Memories.Either way, in my OPINION, this is the best ending to a Visual Novel that I have EVER seen. |
| I'm disappointed, & I feel like I was suckered. It's my own fault, really. I thought I could watch decently fleshed-out characters struggle with feeling compelled to do something so taboo. That was interesting, & how that struggle did not take place in a vaccuum, effecting everyone invested -remotely or otherwise- in a relationship with Haru & Sora kept me coming back. I would have like to have watched a bit more exploration into the supporting characters' reactions. I don't know...I guess the best way to say it is I felt that the story did not support the ending enough to make it really good. It had a lot of potential, yet the writers chose to dumb it down; especially towards the end. Whether this was done in order to quickly wrap everything up, or to simply appeal to the basest appetites in order to achieve at least a marginal "win," I couldn't say. Either way, it left me feeling disappointed over a lost opportunity. |
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| The ending was i guess better than expected. I was sort of confused by Haru at times; he lived with his inability to comprehend his emotions, he finally realizes them and becomes intimate and then gets distracted by others. He even defended that he was in love. And that slap >.> I was expecting them to both drown and i don't get how they lived... whatever. (Very Good 8/10) |
| A quite good ending and a lot of nice twincest, but overall I didn't really care for the story or characters. The sex was nice... |
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| Call me crazy, but until I get definite confirmation, I choose to believe they are dead. I'm not going to force this view on anyone or say that I'm definitely right, though. And it's not that I want them to be dead or anything, not at all, it just feels so much more satisfying, well-done, and emotional if that's the case. If they really are alive, this episode was done terribly. |
Alexstratz said: BOAT F*CK WHERE? EXACTLY, WHERES MY BOAT, IT WAS ALMOST THERE, WE JUST NEEDED A BOAT WHILE THEY WERE DROWNING!! DAMNNn!!! |
| Currently Watching: Durarara!! |
MeltyxBlood said: Alexstratz said: BOAT F*CK WHERE? EXACTLY, WHERES MY BOAT, IT WAS ALMOST THERE, WE JUST NEEDED A BOAT WHILE THEY WERE DROWNING!! DAMNNn!!! Like I said. There is NO Boat. Only a train. A NICE TRAIN!!! |
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| This is probably my favorite episode. Nao gained a lot of respect from me, and I felt really bad for the Class President. |
| "I don't mind if you mess me up" <- best quote of the anime. If only the entire 12 episodes was devoted to this arc... It would be much more fleshed out... And imo evidence points that they're dead (the rabbit etc), and if they were it still doesn't detract from the awesomeness. |
| Nice End~! I think they're alive though. I can't explain how but I think they are... somehow, someway, IDK. |
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| Pretty much as good as the ending could get I think. Great show, somehow one of my favs from this season. This shows a definite hit or miss thing so I can see why so many people wouldn't like it. 9/10 |
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Yumekichi11 said: alexcampos said: I still think the Ef series beats all this anytime. Sora's arc is the closest I have seen to Ef but to me it does not beat it, especially the first one Memories.Either way, in my OPINION, this is the best ending to a Visual Novel that I have EVER seen. I never finished seeing Ef.... Although I did see the first 3 episodes or so, I just never got into it. Either way, I love how the ending makes you think whether they are dead or not, kinda like: The Sora arc was so well done that it moved my rating from a 6 to an 8, I absolutely loved every minute of it. Oh and for the people wondering...THE VISUAL NOVEL ENDS WITH THEM ALIVE!!! |
alexcampos said: Either way, I love how the ending makes you think whether they are dead or not, kinda like: Now that I think about it, it sorta does. The omake made me lol. |
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pk2495 said: Well I will stick to 11 eyes of making you think to choose what you want, they live happily and GTFO from town or they drowned and died. One way or another we are all happy with how it was shown. I still think the scenery was the best of all the series in this arc, particularly this episode.alexcampos said: Now that I think about it, it sorta does.The omake made me lol.Either way, I love how the ending makes you think whether they are dead or not, kinda like: |
McRib said: Thank God this is over. indeed~ |
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Maugomale said: It's quite simple, really: they live in the visual novel, so they live in the anime as well. I'm sure the bunny must have been a studio mistake. that would be hilarious, one mistake by the studio and quite a few people think the two main characters are dead XD |
| Well, it´s finally over... |
| I'm somewhat surprised so many people loved the twincest. worst arc by far to me. just did not feel right at all. at least he thought somewhat rationally. Sora just seemed like a immature little sex crazed girl. perhaps since she had no real contact with other boys. I see no way it could last. his normal feelings for those other girls meant nothing and he really just wanted to fuck his sister? really? I just don't like it either way. sometimes wincest doesn't really bother me but here the way they presented it, it was supposed to feel wrong and did but for some reason people loved it. would any of you REALLY have done the same thing Haru's situation? I really doubt it. |
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mystik said: I'm somewhat surprised so many people loved the twincest. worst arc by far to me. just did not feel right at all. at least he thought somewhat rationally. Sora just seemed like a immature little sex crazed girl. perhaps since she had no real contact with other boys. I see no way it could last. his normal feelings for those other girls meant nothing and he really just wanted to fuck his sister? really? I just don't like it either way. sometimes wincest doesn't really bother me but here the way they presented it, it was supposed to feel wrong and did but for some reason people loved it. would any of you REALLY have done the same thing Haru's situation? I really doubt it. I feel the same way. Don't know why so many people like it. If something similar is made into an anime I won't be watching it. |
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there are two bunnies as you can see, which means they are alive. |
desolatoDec 22, 2010 7:55 AM
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| I honestly LOVE bittersweet endings like this. Having one party happy and the other sadness beyond belief. Gives you that "life is whatever it is and you don't matter but you will live on and remember it" feeling. Love it :D |
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| To be honest I'm unexpectedly torn on this ending. I have been looking forward to the Sora arc the entire series, super stoked for the delicious imouto. But when it really came down to this episode, I kinda had a sinking feeling in my gut. That being said, this was a pretty awesome ending. They really pulled it off on multiple levels. Even the small doubt of whether they are actually alive still is a great touch I think. 10/10 arc 8/10 series. P.S. nice train, am i doin it right EDIT: I also thought the prez's "If all that matters is the feeling, then there's things I want to do too" was pretty funny. |
ThillygoothDec 22, 2010 2:42 AM
mkdizz said: They are at the party themselves. =Pthere are two bunnies as you can see, which means they are alive. |
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| Now that the TV airing is over, All that's left is to wait for the blu-ray DVD episodes, which I hope they'll contain full H-scenes. |
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mkdizz said: image there are two bunnies as you can see, which means they are alive. LOL, I thought of Donnie Darko when I saw that |
| I like the ending. I'm glad to see that Haru and Sora will be always together and will live happily. |
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