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Poll: Legend of the Galactic Heroes Episode 82 Discussion

Aug 15, 2013 11:43 PM

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Man dies, universe goes on.
This is life, guys. Sigh...
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Aug 19, 2013 5:52 AM
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I've watched this episode again, and my heart still goes numb every time.

What a series.
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Sep 2, 2013 5:29 AM

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Sep 16, 2013 2:31 AM

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Yang was killed by fodders! By fodders!
This is...heart breaking....
Sep 26, 2013 5:28 PM

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Oh my god! Holy crap!!! I didn't expect that. But if this was a plot carried out by Oberstein then he is a retard (all this will do will cause revolutions all over the galaxy, since it will be the perceived as imperials who tricked him over talks of peace, and then killed him) . . . Though my bet is on the Earth Cultists . . . But either way, I'm sure Reinhard is going to be FURIOUS when he finds out the news that Yang was killed.
Sep 30, 2013 3:52 PM

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I almost died.
I cried for two hours.
This is the saddest thing I have ever seen.
I wish I was there to protect Yang.
They deserved to be happy.
The last words of Blumhardt nearly killed me.
When Kircheis died I thought that would be the saddest part in the series but I was wrong.
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Oct 12, 2013 1:23 PM

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"The Magician Doesn't Return" gives it away, you know!

What, so 28 more episodes without Yang? I'm not excited anymore... T___T

Julian watching the screen in the ED... remembering Yang... makes sense now.

But +1 for MC character death. It's not even the end of the show yet. If Fork has killed him, I think I would have raged. That guy was taken out in like 2 seconds though. If only Schenkopp escorted Yang. D;
Jan 6, 2014 5:04 AM
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NO!!!!!!!! NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!
Jan 6, 2014 7:53 AM
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JohnShepard said:
Yang Wenli's death almost made me drop the series. I also had a hard time sleeping the same night, no kidding.

i feel u
Jan 14, 2014 10:19 PM

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Poor Yang. Unless Julian and Frederica decide to live up to his ideals rather than avenging him, all hopes of a peaceful ending have been lost.
Jan 15, 2014 11:42 AM

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I was almost certain Yang is going to die very soon, but that death still hit so hard, one of the saddest deaths. :(
Modified by cupc, Mar 16, 2014 9:47 AM
Jan 18, 2014 10:26 AM

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mudskipper said:
JohnShepard said:
Yang Wenli's death almost made me drop the series. I also had a hard time sleeping the same night, no kidding.

i feel u

I didn't watch the show for an entire month, after this episode.
Jan 21, 2014 5:42 PM

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All the circumstances surrounding Yang's death were so contrived it hurt more than our hero's passing. It was as if the brains of Yang's top brass had all gone for a walk solely for the convenience of killing him off.

Despicable writing at its best, and how anyone can defend it I don't know. Such a shame for what has thus far been a great series.
Feb 7, 2014 1:16 AM

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One of my biggest regrets in life has to be watching the preview for this episode. And I died a little after watching this. Those dumbass politicians just had to rush into Yang's whereabouts. And then here's the hero, killed by a nobody with just a single shot through the leg, and passed with no one by his side. A humble death for a humble man... how it's so anticlimactic is just so regrettably fitting. And there's a whole season ahead without Yang. God help me finish this series. It would've been a more traumatic impactful experience had it not been for the narrator, too.
AntAce said:
All the circumstances surrounding Yang's death were so contrived it hurt more than our hero's passing. It was as if the brains of Yang's top brass had all gone for a walk solely for the convenience of killing him off.
Makes you wish they didn't have this conversation, huh.

Feb 18, 2014 3:26 PM

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AntAce said:
All the circumstances surrounding Yang's death were so contrived it hurt more than our hero's passing. It was as if the brains of Yang's top brass had all gone for a walk solely for the convenience of killing him off.

Despicable writing at its best, and how anyone can defend it I don't know. Such a shame for what has thus far been a great series.

I think the brains "went for a walk" because the author wanted to portray a truly tragic death in which a totally random guy kills the greatest man in history. It's a sad truth that many great people die that way, they don't get amazing deaths like out of Code Geass or something.

I thought it was totally normal that Yang's buddys didn't realize there was a group of kamikaze assassins sent by earth cult on board. If Reinhard was cheap enough to assassinate Yang, he would've done it a long time ago.

Still, I digress. Minor inconsistency in a story with a size of a galaxy.
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Feb 18, 2014 4:58 PM

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Lie down.
Try not to cry.
Cry a lot.
Mar 15, 2014 7:23 PM

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Well I cried, I did not at any moment expect Yang Wenli to be in danger during the siege, just because I thought it would be way to soon to kill one of my all-time favorite characters, that'll teach me... I had a really bad day today and decided to watch some LotG to cheer me up, f*** my life. Geez.
Mar 19, 2014 9:07 AM

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RIP Yang Wenli you will be missed... there goes my motivation to continue this series I might put this on hold for a week or a month hopefully not a whole year
Mar 19, 2014 11:29 AM

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lionheart04 said:
RIP Yang Wenli you will be missed... there goes my motivation to continue this series I might put this on hold for a week or a month hopefully not a whole year

You will come back... they always do...

so did I
Apr 10, 2014 2:06 AM

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Awww... Why I didn't watch this episode in home?! I watched about 3/4 in train and then rest in the school hallway. Not really the best thing to stop in the middle of episode. :(

Fork coming in for the kill was hilarious. :D "Yang, I'm am going to kill you!" BOOM "NOOOOOO!"

Yang's death wasn't hilarious. :( I am hoping that Imperials responsible for this will go and meet with Reinhard bragging how they killed Yang. Reinhard would most likely rip them in half with his own hands...
Apr 24, 2014 5:42 AM

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Even as a True LOGH fan its very hard to rate this episode. The split of 140 (81.87%) as a 5 rating, versus 16 (9.36%) as a 1 rating, shows that even many of us have a hard time swallowing the pill. Maybe at a later time I will revisit this.

aixelsyd said:
I refuse to rate this episode because it is very well done, but I still won't. There's nothing to love about this episode.

Maybe you are right and its best not to rate this episode.

wakka9ca said:
This episode really emphasized the emotion of helplessness in the audience. It perfectly created frustration in the viewers....

Yes we knew it or some catastrophe was coming due to the narrators prophecies. Yet I couldn't help but rejoice when Fork was shot down. Even still the lingering fear and suspicion was in full force. When the ship assault began though, a trace of hope told me they could hold out. Ultimately though the feeling of helplessness and inevitably was overbearing.

Kaiserpingvin said:
That was... just stunning. I didn't react until the next episode, and I just cried through all of that.

Most moving, shocking, angering and powerful death I've seen in fiction. Everything else will henceforth be struggling to be even a small shadow of it.

I also had a delayed reaction, trying to restrain my emotions and keep at bay the helplessness and despair, the emptiness of the void and the sorrow.

Yes Kircheis was close as a top death in fiction (not surprising that LOGH is at the top again), but no death in Anime has the significance of Yang's death. That can never be eclipsed, no matter what deluded fanboys think about their Lower Tier shows like TTGL or even NGE, both of which its an abomination to put in the same paragraph of a True Elite like LOGH.

tehnominator said:
I just... stared.

The credits started rolling and my eyes were still locked on the screen, jaw slightly open and my hands shaking. I don't think I started the next episode until I realised about ten minutes had passed and I was staring at nothing.

It was unbelievable. I never thought this anime would have been so daring as to kill off its most personable hero and the most brilliant tactical genius in the entire series.

Yes i had a similar reaction of denial and stupor. Only later on in the episode and the next couple did the pain and tears come out in spurts. It's like a loss that is hard to accept. No doubt LOGH has the biggest balls out of any other anime in history.

Burek said:
A humble man dies a humble death. It fits his character perfectly.

Indeed this was the way it had to be.

fedaykin said:
Just the kind of gritty, realistic death I expected. The episode also really played with our expectations by having the red herring of Andrew Fork being killed and the Rosenritters storming aboard to save the day, as they have always done until now. Until now. :(

koreye said:
martin03345 said:

It's such a pathetic death it robbed me a bit of my sadness that didn't kick in till Julian had seen him

I think its supposed to be that way. For me, the shock factor and the hope that he'd be still breathing when julian reached him delayed the qq moment until Julian actually reached him.

Yes this is definitely intentional. I and many others held onto the belief, nay hope, that he could still be alive when Julian reached him and perhaps a miracle could happen and he would survive.

lionheart04 said:
RIP Yang Wenli you will be missed... there goes my motivation to continue this series I might put this on hold for a week or a month hopefully not a whole year

You have to continue my friend, try not to delay your return any longer. At the least watch the next couple episodes to fully grasp the ramifications and understand where things stand. Then you can take a hiatus to sit on it and mourn.


At this point my first added LOGH favorite character Yang, who held my 4th spot on a list of characters dominated by my Eternal Favorite Anime DBZ/NHK, moved up in rank. There is no spot for him but number 1. Never would I have dreamed to replace DB/DBZ's number 1 Son Goku, but if anyone can do it its Miracle Yang Wenli.

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May 2, 2014 8:41 AM

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LotGH basically ripped my heart out of my body with this ep. i don't think i've been so sad about a character death before.

job well done i guess....? ;___;
May 15, 2014 7:01 AM

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That was just....yeah, one of the greatest scenes if not episodes I've watched/read in any form of entertainment medium.
The only time I've felt this much empty was in Monster when
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May 18, 2014 1:12 AM

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Right now I just have a feeling of emptiness and sadness. I knew it was coming due to the douchebag narrator foreshadowing it various times, but damn it still hits hard. I feel terrible for Frederica when she hears this news. I'm not looking forward to seeing her sadness.

lionheart04 said:
RIP Yang Wenli you will be missed... there goes my motivation to continue this series I might put this on hold for a week or a month hopefully not a whole year
I kind of feel this way as well, a little bit, but I need to see how the alliance reacts to this and Reinhard especially. Kudos to you though, as you still have not watched past this episode for 2+ months now.

Burek said:
A humble man dies a humble death. It fits his character perfectly.

Agreed. I did not think about that but it does fit his character perfectly. Well said.

My favorite character of series, Miracle Yang Wenli, you will be missed. Truly one of the greats in anime history.
May 26, 2014 3:13 AM

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This death will impact me for a long time. Even now it is hard to contemplate it.

Throughout his entire life, all he did was wish for peace, he never wanted to hurt anyone, and yet it all landed on him, the only one who could do it, the only one who could save as many lives as possible.

His entire career, he hated the fact that he had to kill so many, I am sure he felt the weight of each individual soldier he was forced to go up against and defeat.

In a way, he looked at his wound, a meager shot to the leg, stating it was pathetic of him, stating he went from Miracle Yang to Bloody Yang, and yet, you could feel that despite the depression, despite the pain and the inevitable death that awaited him, he was content, he felt he deserved it, and he was just glad that he did not take down the ones he loved most with him.

This character will go down for me as one of the most inspiring and human characters I have ever witnessed, and I will miss him.
Jun 30, 2014 10:10 PM

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I knew it was coming for a while still hurts.

Now for the true test, how will this series be able to continue its final act without its most unique and likable character.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 5, 2014 5:31 AM

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I just watched this episode yesterday, and wow... Honestly like everyone else pretty much stated, you saw this coming for some time, but just didn't know when and exactly how. And as it's happening, you keep holding out with the thought that his friends would be able to save him, but nope not in time. And even their deaths were sad too yo.

But that's what's so great about a series like this, the reality of how frail human life is and just how easily people can and do die. And in a lot of cases historically, in really shitty, sad and pathetic ways. Assassinations by a no name random fuck, accidents, alone and plenty of other strange and crappy ways.

I'm a Naruto fan, and the whole time this scene was playing out with Yang's death, I kept hearing a quote from Nagato in my head... "War brings death, wounds and pain to both sides. There is nothing harder than accepting the death of a loved one, and so we convince ourselves that they cannot die. Especially your generation, who do not know war. You look for meaning in death but there is only pain and hatred, which you do not understand, that consumes you. People die like trash, an everlasting hatred accompanied by a pain that cannot be healed. That... Is war

It rings true for characters like Reinhard, who struggles with accepting the death of his best friend. And I suspect that it'll stick with Julian and Frederica, but just not in the same exact way.

I personally don't get how people can relate to Reinhard over Yang. Because at the end of the day, although Yang is praised as a tactical genius, he's a regular guy, an everyman. He's lazy, procrastinates, he's goofy at times, cares about his friends and family and just an overall thoughtful human being caught in the struggle of the era he lives in.

I think that's the part of the series I'll miss the most actually, him. Don't get me wrong, there's other great characters in the series for different reasons. And I don't really know how to feel about the rest of the series without him being a part of it. Of course I'll finish it, but the whole Phezzan and Terraism cult plot point just seems sorta "meh" along with Reinhard and his overly dramatic self.

Overall, great episode and a great farewell to a great and really likeable character. Still, sad as fuck though. ;__;
Jul 17, 2014 6:56 PM

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Aug 9, 2014 10:26 AM

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I was not ready for this. I hoped he would be killed as an individual and not defeated in battle but this was horrible. I'll probably love hating this episode for a long time.
Aug 10, 2014 10:40 AM
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I had a feeling he would die not to mention I kept hearing about the dreaded ep82, but still. The way he died hit me very hard, however what really hit me was not the fact that he died(it still sucked) It was the reactions from the rest of the characters that tore my heart out.
Aug 14, 2014 5:33 PM

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Man, that Andrew Fork guy put up one hell of a fight in under ten seconds! Jokes aside.

One of my favorite characters killed off just like that.. although I did find it comical when the Imperial grunt shot him in the leg, afterwards proclaiming that he killed him.. when Yang clearly was still standing!
I did predict that Yang would die (the ED foreshadowed it for me), but this is still pretty early on! Despite my initial shock and grief, this makes me even more curious/excited for what happens as a result of this.
Aug 17, 2014 5:44 AM

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I'm kind of shocked it wasn't Andrew Fork wasn't the one to kill him.
I was spoiled a long time ago about Yang's death but I was still kind of shocked the way they did it.
I'm just glad his death wasn't brutal or anything like that but it was bitter.
Aug 25, 2014 2:40 AM

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I can't believe Yang left us like that.

Go, Julian, it's your time now.
Nov 3, 2014 7:05 AM

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That was shocking and sad but at the very least Yang died in peace knowing that his wife and foster son are alive. I hated that he died all alone though :(
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Nov 4, 2014 8:09 PM
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I've been following this series for 2 years, watching it off and on. I can't believe it. I was gonna definitely watch a few more episodes tonight but I think I'm gonna struggle just getting through this next one.
Nov 4, 2014 11:25 PM

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I have to applaud just the way they pulled it off...The atmosphere really adorned the scene. We knew what was going to happen, but the surprise was still there. It was quick, and fast, and his last words, while nothing remarkable, perfectly fit his character. Great episode, and onward to the ending for me I suppose.
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Nov 5, 2014 12:19 AM

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This episode is legendary. Im going to keep it saved.
Nov 14, 2014 7:59 PM

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What the hell, even though there were death flags I didn't take them seriously because freaking Yang usually does some of his "magic" and makes it out okay somehow. Except this time they said NOPE and just kill him off in the most least expected way....Hell I had to re-watch the last part to make sure I had not misread the subs, all the dam feels were felt.

Although I didn't like watching him in command since it felt like he had plot at his side and wasn't really in favor of his rebellion it's not like I wanted the fella to get killed off ;_; R.I.P Yang Wenli, you were a very interesting and unique character :(
Jan 6, 2015 9:54 PM

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Like that? That's how they take out Yang? Sheesh! That makes the previous battle taste so bitter.
So there goes my favourite character. What the heck is going to happen now?
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Jan 31, 2015 1:37 AM
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I was bracing myself for this but I didn't think that a single shot to the leg would do him in.
I am having very conflicting/complicated feelings about this situation.
Feb 18, 2015 9:19 PM

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I cannot accept this. I just can't. I knew Yang was not going to survive by the end of the anime but that was not the way he was "supposed" to die. Shot in the leg by one of the terraist motherfuckers? I just can't, I dont understand how can people like this episode. This is not a beautiful death, this is not an honorable death, it is not even a tragic death, I don't know what the hell just happened!! The terraist? Really? the fucking Terraist? This is my first disappointment of the story so far. But due to this I know for a fact is not perfect.
Mar 7, 2015 7:04 PM

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Daaaamn, I never thought I cared about Wenli until he died. I think I've actually gained an appreciation for him now. That was sad.
Mar 27, 2015 6:35 PM
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Honestly I wasn't surprised at yang's death. I saw it coming at the start of 3rd season with the Ed and the constant foreshadowing of the stupid narrator.

My problem is with the directing/scriptwriting where they would blatantly spoil future events like kircheis, bucock, poplans' bff, phezzan conspiracy, silverbech, etc. It detracts from my enjoyment of the series.

I'm actually quite surprised a lot of viewers did not see this coming. I guess they are not really paying attention.

I am calling this now, next death: Reinhard (death by illness), Oberstein (dude got lots of death flags in this arc)
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Apr 7, 2015 3:50 PM

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HE'S DEAD! HE'S DEAD! HE'S FINALLY DEAD!!!! Talk to your neighbor, talk to your lover, talk to your boss, HE'S DEAD!!!!!

And yes it is damn victory, a great one. Empire is owner of the universe. Suck it up.

He was a hack and he deserved to die long ago. He was only a plot device and we finally got rid of him. But I have a feeling Julian will be 2nd Yang in terms of plot protection.

That being said, I felt sorry for him. Just as I felt sorry for all the other similar characters who died other anime. But that doesn't mean he didn't deserve to die. He deserved the worst. Sorry, Yang, truth hurts, just like a bullet to the leg. You should've scratched your head less and obeyed more.

I didn't expect the hack to die until near the end. This was a great surprise. I was sick of his not-earned victories.

Oh and before calling names, I would like you to remember how Fahrenheit died.

You got it Yang, a one bloody death. Enjoy.

Last but not least, I still hate you Mr. Yoshiki Tanaka, you made me write this. If you had the decency of writing a proper story I wouldn't hate Yang so much, a character once was in my favorites (1st season or so) and a character still in my favorite duos with Reinhard. But yeah, even if you did your best, I accept Yang defended democracy pretty firmly. But it could be so much better if you just wrote a proper story where one side wasn't constantly being helped in deus ex machina form. But you at least did one thing right, killing what you created. Now if you won't go Death Note on Reinhard, I might actually start to consider not hating you, at least not to death.
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Apr 9, 2015 8:07 PM

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crying rn

Apr 14, 2015 9:23 AM

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Wow. I'd actually imagined Reinhard being the one to die towards the end, very shocked that it was Yang ;_; and also that it happened relatively early (30 eps left)! Anyhow will be interesting to see where the story goes from now on and how this death effects Julian and also Reinhard no longer having any formidable opponents.
Apr 24, 2015 3:10 PM

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Now I know for a reason why this episode got A LOT more comments than all the previous episodes. The narrator kinda foreshadow it and so did the openings & endings but I was not prepared for Yang to die ;_; the feels...
May 3, 2015 7:12 AM

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I didn't expect this to happen but it's good that a anime has the guts to kill one of the MC unlike anime these days. I wasn't even expecting this even though I herd that magic quote before but I should stop reading/watching stuff with shocking death like
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May 4, 2015 4:10 AM

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EvenJellyOn said:
I didn't expect this to happen but it's good that a anime has the guts to kill one of the MC unlike anime these days. I wasn't even expecting this even though I herd that magic quote before but I should stop reading/watching stuff with shocking death like

NOTE! Do not open that spoiler, seriously.

Man, you just spoiled that anime for me. :(
I'm into episode 3 and I already guess who's going to die.
Jun 2, 2015 11:59 AM

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Noooooo, not Yang, anyone but him. Amd what a cowardly way of the empire to kill hem...
What is the most cowardly and shameful thing in human conduct? It's when people with power and people who flatter them hide in safe places and extol war, force patriotism and self-sacrifice on others, then send them to the battlefield to die. For the sake of peace in the universe, before we continue this fruitless war with the Empire, mustn't we first start by exterminating such evil parasites? - Yang Wenli
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