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Feb 16, 2012 9:37 PM

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Ah my man Fahrenheit ;_; RIP

I can tell this isn't going to be the only big death in this war
Mar 16, 2012 6:17 PM

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They said it themselves- Bittenfeld has suffered so many losses but he himself hasn't died yet. You could say his idiocy instigated Fahrenheit's death here. But then, Fahrenheit did say that it was his own fault for falling for it.

These battles are still as good as ever, but Yang is sometimes just TOO good at predicting what the enemy commanders are going to do. It'd be a bit more exciting if Yang were outwitted sometimes. Never seems to happened.
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Apr 2, 2012 1:03 PM

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Luthimal said:
The Empire deserved to lose, falling for such an obvious ambush


That's because they were a bunch of idiots.

Not one of them could sit and think.
Reinhard should give positions to smarter people.
May 3, 2012 2:53 AM

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One of the better battles of the series. I'm starting to find Yang's skills a bit too magical. A big part of his genius is that he sets a trap that the enemy will see through, anticipating their response and having a second trap waiting. But for such a thing to work, he would have to know that the enemy is not going to fall for the first trap. This battle had the enemy falling for the secondary trap in the beginning but also for the first traps later in the battle when the decisions have to be made more quickly. Yang's ability to discern when the enemy can see through the first trap seems a bit too incredible. After all, it doesn't seem like he has one trap set and another one in case the first fails, but the plan all along is for the enemy to see through the first one. So if they actually did fall for the first trap, the enemy might be better off.
May 15, 2012 9:04 PM

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Bittenfeld and Fahrenheit definitely pulled some punches that caught the Yang Fleet off-guard -- to be honest, I thought they handled themselves somewhat well. And this was probably a Pyrrhic victory for Yang anyway, even though it was necessary.

But here's some retrospective irony from episode 72:

Reinhard said:
If Bittenfeld exercised too much prudence, that would take away the strength of the Black Lancers.
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Jun 23, 2012 11:46 AM

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This battle reminds me of the Battle of Thermopylae...
Aug 15, 2012 10:37 AM

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R.I.P Fahrenheit

You were awesome. ;_;
Sep 1, 2012 4:33 AM

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i cant bear to watch this battle~ always falling to the trap of Yang Wenli...
Sep 9, 2012 10:31 PM

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my second fav among the imperial admirals died :(
RIP Farenheit
Sep 11, 2012 4:54 PM

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quite many people die in batle field as always.
"Shostakovich, Symphony no. 5, Allegro non troppo" is nice choice.
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Sep 16, 2012 9:53 AM
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It's only natural to lose when you have PLOT as your enemy, besides plot armor, he uses cheap tricks and gets access to environment advantage everytime he fights
this is completely laughable, just like when that shenkophwhatever guy keeps killing everyone but can't be killed, just like his daughter who doesn't die, completely laughable.
Sep 16, 2012 11:20 AM

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Shaduge said:
It's only natural to lose when you have PLOT as your enemy, besides plot armor, he uses cheap tricks and gets access to environment advantage everytime he fights
this is completely laughable, just like when that shenkophwhatever guy keeps killing everyone but can't be killed, just like his daughter who doesn't die, completely laughable.


haha yea, totally ridiculous. I just dont get it, how come you managed to watch 70 + eps of this piece of garbage anime..its beyond me
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May 20, 2013 3:13 PM
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hahahahaha Many people think that Yang is too smart for a character, but that's the exact reason of why he is called Yang the Magician and why everyone (even in the Empire Fleet) admires him.
He is a very smart person, but far from perfect.
Aug 5, 2013 9:53 PM

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Goodbye Fahrenheit :/
Sep 25, 2013 12:34 PM

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Oh my. I really didn't expect one of the admirals to die, although I can't agree with the logic behind it (why would you place the most important person as the rear guard when retreating?)

Anyways, I'm sure that this news is going to piss off Reinhard quite a bit. I wonder if this is going to be the beginning of his fall.
Feb 6, 2014 7:26 AM
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DAMMIT BITTENFELD.
Jun 30, 2014 8:40 PM

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Damn it why couldnt bittenfield had been the first to die, Fahrenheit was actually a pretty interesting character who i felt could had been used alot more, his death was excellent.

And so we have it, the first death of likely many more major supporting characters and possibly main characters. I really dont like the idea of anyone on yang's team dying cause i legitimately like them all but i have a bad feeling its going to be dusty first. that or yang whos death flags are way too heavy at the moment.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Aug 9, 2014 8:21 AM

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NOOO. Fahrenheit was so cool. Goddamnit Bittenfield, talk about forcing his hand.

The floodgates are open it would seem, I'm expecting a lot more big deaths to come in this battle.
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Aug 14, 2014 9:10 AM

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"Die Kaiser!"
Best warcry ever.
Nov 14, 2014 6:27 PM

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Dammit there goes another likeable character >_>

Shaduge said:
It's only natural to lose when you have PLOT as your enemy, besides plot armor, he uses cheap tricks and gets access to environment advantage everytime he fights
this is completely laughable, just like when that shenkophwhatever guy keeps killing everyone but can't be killed, just like his daughter who doesn't die, completely laughable.

I'm wondering if they nicknamed him Yang the Magician just to troll people. Some of the stunts he pulls seem to come right out of his ass lol.
Mar 7, 2015 3:45 PM

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I liked this episode, It had some good strategy. It was good that Farenheit actually put up a fight and that Yang actually had difficulty.
Apr 6, 2015 3:58 PM

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So when it comes to Yang he can do any dishonest thing, but when it comes to Reinhard he must beat him rightfully. Now I understand Reinhard's ego, but when you deal with such an annoyance, whoever you are you WILL do what's neccesary to eliminate him.

Now a few episodes ago I've said that I hoped a bloody death for Yang's side, then until this episode I was exposed to "cuteness" of Yang's side, but as seen in this episode, they don't hold back when it comes to killing good, honest people. Now sure "that is war", but killing an annoyance dishonestly to get rid of his dishonesty is "also war". If I was Reinhard I would hang Yang first time we met. And I wouldn't have any regrets. I WOULD feel sorry, but I would not regret it. Because you are judged by what you do, not what you can do. Yang had every chance to change his opinion but he kept killing people and feeling "so-colled sorry" for them. That is hypocrite and deserves death.

I learned this life-lesson from... Dragon Age: Origins. There when everytime I forgave someone they would backstab me the moment I turned around and then I learned to kill them without mercy. When there's no law you simply have to react the same way you have been treated. Not an inch less. Killing a murderer. That is justice. Sometimes the saying "in war everything is fair" is really true. And you have to be prepared for it. That is why Griffith is above Reinhard in my favorites.
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Jun 2, 2015 10:31 AM

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Very nice battle, RIP Farenheit :( I think he and Bittenfeld didn't communicate enough te be succesfull (or they didn't show it in the anime)
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Jun 3, 2015 7:24 AM
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Damn, Fahrenheit died like a boss. Great episode, loved the tactics employed by Yang/Merkatz to counterattack the black lancers. Exciting times ahead yo.
Jun 19, 2015 10:50 AM

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Great battle episode, really intense and I do wonder how it will turn out! Let's see what's next.
Jul 19, 2015 2:01 AM

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Cool battle.Rip Fahrenheit .
Oct 15, 2015 3:05 PM

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Rest in peace Farenheit
Jan 28, 2016 1:26 PM

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I guess I only had a vague understanding of how the corridors and space navigation worked prior to this. I thought they were just areas that were off the radar. I didn't realize that their ships could actually be destroyed by venturing out too far. This battle was especially intense and gripping, I salute Fahrenheit as he was one of my favorite admirals early on.
Jun 22, 2016 10:38 AM

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It was about time an Imperial Admiral bite the dust...it was nice knowing ya Fahrenheit!
Hopefully Bittenfield is the next one on the chopping block.
Nov 6, 2016 5:48 PM

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This battle is so exciting.
Great episode.
Feb 17, 2017 6:58 PM

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Incredible battle. This kind of battle when both sites are equal or almost equal in number and capabilities are my favorite one, since each side show the best they have and its impossible to win with a single strategy. That's what made this battle so damn exciting... 5/5
Mar 23, 2017 2:09 PM

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Gotta love corridors in space.
Sep 1, 2017 8:20 AM

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I demand a shounen tag for this. Again alliance forces ignore logic and again nothing on their side was lost. Poor Fahrenheit, he did not deserve to die like this but his death also showed the burning passion he and others have for Reinhard as Kaiser.

PS: Fascinating how alliance forces who have been there for only 1 year know more about the layout of the corridor then the side which heldt it for hundreds of years.
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Sep 1, 2017 5:53 PM

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PS: Fascinating how alliance forces who have been there for only 1 year know more about the layout of the corridor then the side which heldt it for hundreds of years.


Actually, if you stretch it back long enough, it was the Alliance that discovered the Iserlohn Corridor in the first place. Also, considering how the war was largely centred around the Iserlohn Corridor throughout its century-and-half duration, one would have expected the Alliance to know the layout of the corridor as well as the Empire. At least for much longer than just one year.
Sep 2, 2017 6:36 AM

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MagisterArcanum said:
Comander-07 said:
PS: Fascinating how alliance forces who have been there for only 1 year know more about the layout of the corridor then the side which heldt it for hundreds of years.


Actually, if you stretch it back long enough, it was the Alliance that discovered the Iserlohn Corridor in the first place. Also, considering how the war was largely centred around the Iserlohn Corridor throughout its century-and-half duration, one would have expected the Alliance to know the layout of the corridor as well as the Empire. At least for much longer than just one year.
MagisterArcanum said:
Comander-07 said:
PS: Fascinating how alliance forces who have been there for only 1 year know more about the layout of the corridor then the side which heldt it for hundreds of years.


Actually, if you stretch it back long enough, it was the Alliance that discovered the Iserlohn Corridor in the first place. Also, considering how the war was largely centred around the Iserlohn Corridor throughout its century-and-half duration, one would have expected the Alliance to know the layout of the corridor as well as the Empire. At least for much longer than just one year.
still there is no reason the alliance should know it better. Also the overall scenario with the war looks a bit weird to me. Everything was focused around Iserlohn and before yang the alliance simply threw ships at it with no real plan..
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Nov 22, 2017 7:31 AM
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One more time, a nice battle strategy!!
Well, another character that died, Fahrenheit!!!
Feb 10, 2018 6:49 PM
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I expected Bittenfeld but Fahrenheit died instead.Rip Fahrenheit,Celsius please don't die too.
May 16, 2018 4:35 AM
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Prequel said:
So when it comes to Yang he can do any dishonest thing, but when it comes to Reinhard he must beat him rightfully. Now I understand Reinhard's ego, but when you deal with such an annoyance, whoever you are you WILL do what's neccesary to eliminate him.

Now a few episodes ago I've said that I hoped a bloody death for Yang's side, then until this episode I was exposed to "cuteness" of Yang's side, but as seen in this episode, they don't hold back when it comes to killing good, honest people. Now sure "that is war", but killing an annoyance dishonestly to get rid of his dishonesty is "also war". If I was Reinhard I would hang Yang first time we met. And I wouldn't have any regrets. I WOULD feel sorry, but I would not regret it. Because you are judged by what you do, not what you can do. Yang had every chance to change his opinion but he kept killing people and feeling "so-colled sorry" for them. That is hypocrite and deserves death.

I learned this life-lesson from... Dragon Age: Origins. There when everytime I forgave someone they would backstab me the moment I turned around and then I learned to kill them without mercy. When there's no law you simply have to react the same way you have been treated. Not an inch less. Killing a murderer. That is justice. Sometimes the saying "in war everything is fair" is really true. And you have to be prepared for it. That is why Griffith is above Reinhard in my favorites.

Reinhard could have stopped the war the moment he became Kaiser by he keeps killing out of greed and fun. He gets bored when he's not at war so he keeps doing it.

Yang is fighting for an idea and for the benefit of humanity, Reinhard just wants power for powers sake. He is the villain of the show. Despite what Yang says there are good people and had people and Reinhard is bad.


RIP Fahrenheit.

Sad to see him go. Given how similar his background is to Reinhard's isn't it strange that he fought against him and teamed with the noble families?

This how "Yang has plot armour" stuff is so tiresome. Being a better tactician is not plot armour. Bittenfeld and Fahrenheit's tactics were very good and we got to see them discuss it with each other in a great scene. They did very well and outsmarted Dusty and were incredibly close to killing Yang too, just like Reinhard nearly died before he was saved by Muller in the previous battle. I thought both admirals did very well but just weren't good enough.

Also they were attacking Yang from the Alliance side of the corridor so no, they wouldn't know it better than the Alliance.

Amazing episode and the battle I was able to follow and enjoy the most so far.

Power rankings:
1) The Empire. Took big loses and Fahrenheit died but they still have many more fleets.
2) Yang. Won the battle but they have such a small fleet they can't afford many more like it.
3) Rubinski
4) Earth Cult
5) El Facil. How exactly are they going to get to Iserhorn? Yang is going to have to save their stupid arses..
6) Goldenbalms.

MVP- Fahrenheit. Take a bow son.
Oct 31, 2018 5:35 PM
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I really liked the music that played during the battle, so far I the tunes have been subpar imo (meaning they don't fit each scene).

I would've preferred if Bittenfeld had died. He will only fall for Yang's tricks again and again.
Nov 9, 2018 3:21 AM

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SHOCK-WAVE DIMENSIONS!!!!!!
Apr 7, 2019 1:24 PM

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"I will give you a keepsake. It's your life. Live and meet the Kaiser. Don't die..."

Fahrenhait's last words were so touching ;_;
May 28, 2019 3:03 PM

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Fahrenheit was one of the better admirals of the Imperial Army, character-wise too. Sad to see him gone
Sep 9, 2019 12:48 PM

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Saddest death in this whole anime. Fahrenheit's death shook me more than anyone else did. I couldn't help but shed tears at his death. And yes. Even considering the people who die in the next 10 episodes, Fahrenheit's death hits me the hardest.

Fahrenheit, a golden throne is awaiting your presence in Valhalla. May you live ever after as the greatest warrior and general of our generation

Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate.


I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death.


Nov 23, 2019 5:18 AM

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RIP Fahrenheit, I didn't expect him to die
It's all because of Bittenfeld :(

Kinda ironic how Admiral Merkatz outlive Fahrenheit
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Jan 2, 2020 9:16 AM

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Caught myself cheering for Karin. Such a debut must be incredibly stressful.


Rip Fahrenheit. His death was really well done.

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May 8, 2020 7:31 PM

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I demand a shounen tag for this. Again alliance forces ignore logic and again nothing on their side was lost. Poor Fahrenheit, he did not deserve to die like this but his death also showed the burning passion he and others have for Reinhard as Kaiser.

This battle was complete bullshit, I agree, but do you really believe this is a shounen series? Because it looks like you're watching LOGH for these silly space skirmishes instead of the dialogues and political intrigue. I hope you realize how dumb that sounds.

RIP Fahrenheit, he was pretty uninteresting, and while he did look smarter than the retarded nobles two seasons ago (who didn't) he never seemed to be actually useful. And here he died as an idiot. You know what? Fuck him, at least Bittenfeld has some charisma.
May 9, 2020 9:23 AM

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BrumaHobo said:
Comander-07 said:
I demand a shounen tag for this. Again alliance forces ignore logic and again nothing on their side was lost. Poor Fahrenheit, he did not deserve to die like this but his death also showed the burning passion he and others have for Reinhard as Kaiser.

This battle was complete bullshit, I agree, but do you really believe this is a shounen series? Because it looks like you're watching LOGH for these silly space skirmishes instead of the dialogues and political intrigue. I hope you realize how dumb that sounds.

RIP Fahrenheit, he was pretty uninteresting, and while he did look smarter than the retarded nobles two seasons ago (who didn't) he never seemed to be actually useful. And here he died as an idiot. You know what? Fuck him, at least Bittenfeld has some charisma.
Shounen armour definitely fits. And if shounen armour keeps the plot in line.. The "political intrigue" is not actually all that special and doesnt matter when it comes down to shounen armour deciding the outcome of wars.
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Shounen armour definitely fits. And if shounen armour keeps the plot in line.. The "political intrigue" is not actually all that special and doesnt matter when it comes down to shounen armour deciding the outcome of wars.

You're again missing the point of this series. Certain characters being outstanding tacticians is what's driving the plot, but it doesn't really matter if the tactics shown here are complete garbage (which unfortunately they are), the author's a historian who decided to write a novel chronicling the rise to power of some fictional historical figures, he didn't give a damn about tactical minutia.

It's perfectly fine if you don't care for what Tanaka was trying to tell, but please, don't embarrass yourself saying this is a shounen series.
May 10, 2020 11:02 AM

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You are again mssing the point of what I wrote.

Pls dont embarrass yourself showing your clear lack of understanding of the english language. If you would possess the ability to think you would know what a hyperbole is. If the author is bad at writing tacticts, the author shouldnt act as if he knew what he was doing. If battles which are actually the main part of this show believe it or not are decided by shounen levels of plot armour you might as well leave them out entirely, or atleast dont try to present them in a way which creates the illusion of any tactical depth.

Inherently what an author is trying to write is utterly irrelevant to the resulting product.

Be a shounen level fanboy somewhere else. Goodbye.
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You are again mssing the point of what I wrote.

Pls dont embarrass yourself showing your clear lack of understanding of the english language. If you would possess the ability to think you would know what a hyperbole is. If the author is bad at writing tacticts, the author shouldnt act as if he knew what he was doing. If battles which are actually the main part of this show believe it or not are decided by shounen levels of plot armour you might as well leave them out entirely, or atleast dont try to present them in a way which creates the illusion of any tactical depth.

Inherently what an author is trying to write is utterly irrelevant to the resulting product.

Be a shounen level fanboy somewhere else. Goodbye.
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