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Topic renamed. The original topic "Anime & Manga Regulation Bill To Pass The Assembly" was denied by DPJ assemblyman.
According to Jiji Tsushin, ten major manga publishers announced that they will boycott Tokyo International Anime Fair 2011 (TAF 2011) and asked the anime production companies not to display anime based on the publishers' manga at TAF. Governor Ishihara stated in the press conference that "I don't care. Do boycott as you like."

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Shueisha (Shonen Jump)
Kodansha (Shonen Magazine)
Shogakukan (Shonen Sunday)
Akita Shoten (Shonen Champion)
Kadokawa Shoten (Shonen Ace)
Shonen Gahosha (Young King Ours)
Hakusensha (Hana to Yume, Young Animal)
Futabasha (Manga Town)
Shinchosha (Comic Bunch)
LEED (Comic Ran)

The vote on the anime and manga regulation bill will be held on December 15th. Whether the bill will pass the assembly depends on the decision of the ruling party, Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ). Mass media reported that DPJ decided to approve the bill, but Kurishita Zenko, one of the DPJ assemblymen, revealed that half of DPJ assemblymen are still opposing to the bill.

The bill excludes novels and live action materials from the scope of the regulation. At the general affairs committee held on December 9th, the counselor Asakawa explained the reason that "Self regulation is properly done in the live action industry. As for novels, the impression varies from person to person. On the other hand, the interpretations of manga and anime are uniform no matter who reads or watches them."

Sources: Jiji Tsushin, Kurishita Zenko's tweet, Togetter, Taguchi's tweet, Governor's press conference
Related topics: Kadokawa Shoten To Boycott Tokyo International Anime Fair
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I heard this was coming back, but I didn't want to believe it.

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Interesting, well lets see how this plays out
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zansabarshadow said:
Interesting, well lets see how this plays out


true, becuase I'm sure the industry is going to have more than just a few people boycotting events as its only comeback...



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Nothing good ever comes out of these
 
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ahh why wont they just kill this zombie of a bill and cremate it this is going to do alot of damage to the industry and will hurt all of us

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who knows exactly how anyone interprets a story? subjectivity itself is subjective.
 
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Welcome to the world of politics.
 
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Neverarine said:
zansabarshadow said:
Interesting, well lets see how this plays out


true, because I'm sure the industry is going to have more than just a few people boycotting events as its only comeback...


True, the hardcore Otaku won't stay silent either...Akiba is gonna wreck havoc XD
MAYBE...

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Kurishita Zenko, one of the assemblymen belonging to Democratic Party, denied the reports of mass media and revealed that half of DPJ assemblymen are still opposing to the bill.


Wait, what??
woot! We still has hope?
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hahaha no more Loli's
 
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Well, I'm not sad about this.
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News topic renamed
Previous title: Anime and Manga Regulation Bill To Pass The Assembly -> source denied
Current title: Ten Manga Publishers To Boycott TAF 2011
I guess someone is releasing false information to make the approval of the bill fait accompli. Information warfare going on.
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Dam Govts. are all the same..... ;_ ;
 
Dec 9, 2010 11:48 PM

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These things never pass..they've been trying to ban various things like this and internet related nonsense in various countries for years now and nothing ever passes.

It's hilarious how excited people get over this.
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Hahahahaha .... well that not good ..
 
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Suspended?? you mean the news was fake?
"How dafuq does the 'hype' affect the story?"
 
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wo Good News that its Suspended i want to watch Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt until the end i dont want that to be banned
 
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Bill suspended YES!! NOW we can continue to have more BS and less of the sane stuff!! WOHOOO!!
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Score 1, more ppl to oppose the Bill (Fight the Power!)
I wonder how this will turn out.......
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That's it!!! DON'T LET THE J-GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER OUR FUN!!!

gahh....
"How dafuq does the 'hype' affect the story?"
 
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they are just scared of being invaded by ika-tan
 
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So this news is fake?



 
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So this news is fake?

The report by Asahi news "the bill will pass the assembly" is false unless the DPJ assemblyman is telling a lie.
 
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Um, you guys do realise that with ten of the major manga companies boycotting this, and effectively prohibiting the display of anime related to their products, that they could do some damage to this year's Tokyo Anime Festival right?

Geez, let's just hope that things don't get so bad that they do something that could actually do some serious damage to the industry.
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Um, you guys do realise that with ten of the major manga companies boycotting this, and effectively prohibiting the display of anime related to their products, that they could do some damage to this year's Tokyo Anime Festival right?

Geez, let's just hope that things don't get so bad that they do something that could actually do some serious damage to the industry.
Having the bill come to pass would hurt them a lot more, though.

There will be no anime deemed to be 18+ on TV, for starters, which could have affected works like Nana, Evangelion and Kemonozume on top of the generic ecchi/harem anime had the law always been in force. No manga with what is deemed to be sexual content would be able to be sold in mainstream convenience stores, which would limit the use of sex in an artistic fashion. After all, who would go to a porn shop to buy a piece of fine art?

So this action might damage the industry a little, but they can repair the damage caused by this. However, if the law is approved, it could cause massive and irreversible damage that could destroy the anime/manga industry as we know it.
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Man.. dam politics.
lets see what happens. I really don't think it would pass.
 
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Whoa, that's a big move for the publishers. But if this bill will pass, I might expect an angry crowd from the industry itself.
 
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zansabarshadow said:
Interesting, well lets see how this plays out


yeah i agree with u
 
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The major problem with this bill is its ambiguity. According to the bill, they can basically regulate almost any sort of, even slightest sexual interpretations can be regulated due to its nature as a double speak.

Ishihara has always been asshole anyway.
 
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Please don't let the bill pass otherwise it would not only be violation of free expression. But Japan would sort of repeat what US did with Comic Book involving the Comic Code Authority.
 
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ariapokoteng said:
Well, I'm not sad about this.


Me either honestly.
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Nagara_Venteel said:
ariapokoteng said:
Well, I'm not sad about this.


Me either honestly.

Same here.
I just hope it pass because i'm getting sick seeing animes & manga full of crap that girls don't like to see. Every time I heard of an anime with ecchi & moe, all I can think of is guy seeing girls view of sex and sexism. Even not true all the time, my brain just think that way, because I fully support woman rights.

I just saying there to much animes with ecchi that it making some people upset not seeing much action/violence going on. Sure remove the ecchi but don't not remove it all the way, littl ecchi find with it.

I have deep feeling it's going to pass.
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Finally, Japan gets with the program after being the single break on the international struggle to ban child pornography and enforce tougher laws.

Man, I feel so sorry for the pedophile scumbags baaawing over their loss of loli-porn in this thread.
 
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KuroTsuki14 said:
Nagara_Venteel said:
ariapokoteng said:
Well, I'm not sad about this.


Me either honestly.

Same here.
I just hope it pass because i'm get sick seeing animes & manga full of crap that girls don't like to see.


Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it needs to be regulated out of existence for everyone else. Don't watch what you don't like, censorship is never necessary.

Conversely, if it did pass, it would affect what everyone likes negatively in way or another, and no one will win.
 
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The major problem with this bill is its ambiguity. According to the bill, they can basically regulate almost any sort of, even slightest sexual interpretations can be regulated due to its nature as a double speak.

Ishihara has always been asshole anyway.


Yes, it could spell the end of the entire anime industry period. Give it 2-3 years after the bill is in effect and if it isn't overturned by then, anime will pretty much be phased out for good. Even though the supporters are Major publishing studios, it still won't pass, think of the dent in the Japanese economy if anime was phased out due to wayward regulations. Ishihara needs to jump in a river, he becoming more like the Phelps and less like an honest to goodness politician.

Forget the "end of the world" 2012, that won't come to pass, this coming Apocalypse is the real 2012 and has consequences far worse than the ultimate end. Supporting this bill will not support less ecchi and more quality anime, supporting the bill is supporting the end of the anime and manga industry.


 
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Even if it does pass, it's not like they won't be shown at all. I assume the BDs and stuff will still come out.. and if they do, it'll be subbed anyways.

And yeah, I doubt it'll pass. But hey, I'm a girl and I like watching ecchi stuff. >_>
Not so much into moe, though. It's all right I guess.
 
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SO WAIT - what's being regulated? Confused here? Someone, plz explain?
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KuroTsuki14 said:
Nagara_Venteel said:
ariapokoteng said:
Well, I'm not sad about this.


Me either honestly.

Same here.
I just hope it pass because i'm get sick seeing animes & manga full of crap that girls don't like to see. Even time I see anime with ecchi & moe, all I can think of is guy seeing girls view of sex and sexism.

I have deep feeling it's not going to pass.


why did you even post a comment here?

learn first to respect others likes.

i'm sure girl's will not like if they were talking about your's BL ban's.
 
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xrecks said:

I just saying whenever I heard about an new anime with stuff like that it worried
me. I don't even watch it to make me more worried, I just stay away from it and move with life. Howevery I'm find with little ecchi in it.

I'm little bit worried if did pass. Like what mdo7 saying may come true. Sure remove sexual stuff but not stuff I like to see.

Hoppy said:
Supporting this bill will not support less ecchi and more quality anime, supporting the bill is supporting the end of the anime and manga industry.

Not happy about this. If there wasn't much ecchi going on probably this wouldn't happen. Since this coming from me, i'm wrong at it.
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I'm a guy but i don't have a problem with this ( well i got a gf but stil people like lolicon lol -.-)
I'm surprise that these "kinds" of anime are so popular. No wonder the quality of upcoming animes have been so disappointing.
 
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xrecks said:
KuroTsuki14 said:
Nagara_Venteel said:
ariapokoteng said:
Well, I'm not sad about this.


Me either honestly.

Same here.
I just hope it pass because i'm get sick seeing animes & manga full of crap that girls don't like to see.


Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it needs to be regulated out of existence for everyone else. Don't watch what you don't like, censorship is never necessary.

Conversely, if it did pass, it would affect what everyone likes negatively in way or another, and no one will win.

I never said that blood, gore, naked women, incest, loli and stuff should completely disappear.
But yes, I really don't think that removing all this kind of stuff from TV broadcasting is a bad thing.
Besides, lots of ecchi fans watch it on the dvd\blu-ray, leaving the TV aside, so no particular harm done.
And regarding stuff likle Berserk or Black Lagoon - I would gladly watch these things in OVAs. Not to mention that OVAs quality generally is way better than TV in comparison.
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SO WAIT - what's being regulated? Confused here? Someone, plz explain?


Some evil and pretty foolish Japanese Politicians want to make anything with even the smallest amount of sexual content or has taboo content such as incest adults only. This means anime such as OreImo will be automatically labeled as R-18+ (Adults only) and can't be sold in most stores or be aired on TV.


 
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xrecks said:
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it needs to be regulated out of existence for everyone else. Don't watch what you don't like, censorship is never necessary.

Conversely, if it did pass, it would affect what everyone likes negatively in way or another, and no one will win.

I just saying whenever I heard about an new anime with stuff like that it worried
me. I don't even watch it to make me more worried, I just stay away from it and move with life. Howevery I'm find with little ecchi in it. Since sometime I watched it when i'm happy.

I'm little bit worried if did pass. Like what mdo7 saying may come true. Sure remove sexual stuff but not stuff I like to see.

Hoppy said:
Supporting this bill will not support less ecchi and more quality anime, supporting the bill is supporting the end of the anime and manga industry.

Not happy about this. If there wasn't much ecchi going on probably this wouldn't happen. Since this coming from me, i'm wrong at it.

Akiba-kei-chan said:
why did you even post a comment here?

learn first to respect others likes.

i'm sure girl's will not like if they were talking about your's BL ban's.

I was trying to respect woman right that all. I find with guys liking ecchi but not find with there way to much out there. Not getting much good animes with out it.
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Hoppy said:


Yes, it could spell the end of the entire anime industry period. Give it 2-3 years after the bill is in effect and if it isn't overturned by then, anime will pretty much be phased out for good. .


I really doubt that. Maybe it'll change the trends and be a huge blow to the hentai industry, but anime will live on because anime is more than sex/ hentai etc and the way i read it, correct me If I'm wrong, this wouldn't have banned moe or loli 'characters' as such, but only allowed the regulation of some explicit stuff. I would even dare say that it would redirect some of that energy towards creating more serious anime.

In any case, this bill is not passing so YAY for freedom of expression!!
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KuroTsuki14 said:
Nagara_Venteel said:
ariapokoteng said:
Well, I'm not sad about this.


Me either honestly.

Same here.
I just hope it pass because i'm get sick seeing animes & manga full of crap that girls don't like to see. Even time I see anime with ecchi & moe, all I can think of is guy seeing girls view of sex and sexism.

I have deep feeling it's not going to pass.
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Finally, Japan gets with the program after being the single break on the international struggle to ban child pornography and enforce tougher laws.

Man, I feel so sorry for the pedophile scumbags baaawing over their loss of loli-porn in this thread.
That's not the problem here, guys. If this was going to affect generic ecchi harem anime and only generic ecchi harem anime, then that would be fine.

However, the law is written in such an ambiguous fashion that it could encroach on works that use sexual themes, but are still legitimate works of artistic value. Satoshi Kon's anime come to mind. Take that photoshoot scene in Perfect Blue, for example. Would that be considered to "provoke sexual sensation or induce crimes."? If it did, it would essentially be a hentai as far as these governors are concerned.

What about Koi Kaze? Could that be described as an anime that "positively describe illegal sexual acts or incest." just because it doesn't depict incest as being 100% negative? Bear in mind that Koi Kaze doesn't depict incest as being 100% positive either, the characters know that it is wrong, but can't deny the truth of their love. It's a depiction of incest that's supposed to be realistic rather than idealistic.

And that is where my problems with this lie. I don't want realism to be censored for the sake of idealism. Ecchi anime/manga I can live without. Censorship of anime/manga that depict the darker side of society, sex and all, is a completely different matter entirely, however.

Oh, and maybe I should mention that there is no specified gender for these restrictions, meaning that fujoshi bait is every bit as likely to be banned as the ecchi stuff.

Also, you can have a moeblob harem anime without the ecchi content. Considering that the most popular studio for moeblobs (Kyoto Animation) manages to get massive sales without relying on ecchi, there is a market for such anime, so the regulations are more likely to kill the most definitely not generic Madhouse Studios ,who incorporate mature content such as sex into their works in such a way that it becomes an important plot point the anime where they use it, than it will kill Kyoto Animation and the "moe cancer". Other studios can just produce the same anime moeblob harem anime they have always been producing, but remove the ecchi parts to keep them within law. If it's ecchi only, it becomes an OVA.
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Akiba-kei-chan said:
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Well, I'm not sad about this.


Me either honestly.

Same here.
I just hope it pass because i'm get sick seeing animes & manga full of crap that girls don't like to see. Even time I see anime with ecchi & moe, all I can think of is guy seeing girls view of sex and sexism.

I have deep feeling it's not going to pass.


why did you even post a comment here?

learn first to respect others likes.

i'm sure girl's will not like if they were talking about your's BL ban's.


I'm a girl who likes Bl, and I think it should be restricted. Last I checked this was a discussion thread. Are you honestly telling me that there can't be differing opinions in a discussion? I posted what I thought. Restricting this material to minors is completely fair. If we were talking about an entire ban, that would be different, but we're not. They aren't restricting it to adults, so what is the problem?
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Akiba-kei-chan said:

Sure there couple of none ero-animes 2010 but that doesn't mean there going to be more of it any time soon when I heard alot of ecchi/moe/fanservice coming out more then normal anime. :\ But thanks for list, I seen half it.

Amagami SS - Is base of ero-game, I may not be blind but see some fanservice in it. Even thought it's not 100& ecchi. But I have to say isn't that bad fanservice. :)
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they're not talking about Rx anime...

"Some evil and pretty foolish Japanese Politicians want to make anything with even the smallest amount of sexual content or has taboo content such as incest adults only. This means anime such as OreImo will be automatically labeled as R-18+ (Adults only) and can't be sold in most stores or be aired on TV."
 
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I dont see any problem even if they use this power with a free rein (which I doubt they will in the first place). Its not like they are banning anything, all they'll do is not air it one TV. People can still buy the DVDs and watch those movies in theatre.
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