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Jun 2, 2008 7:10 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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This case against Reuental has many similarities to what happened with Yang. Rumors which may or may not have basis in reality surface and threaten to take down another top official. I doubt that Reinhard will follow the same path as the alliance though. The investigative work didn't go back far enough but instead stopped at Elfriede. If they were to find out the information Lang received came from a former disgruntled alliance official, the claims would hold less weight.

Should Reuental be found innocent the outcome may be very damaging to Oberstein due to Lang's connections with him. Mittermeyer already suspects and even openly accused Oberstein as being behind the false accusations. Oberstein was very careful when warning Lang to be absolutely certain that his actions would not do something to weaken the government. Even though he stated that he doesn't mind being hated, there has to be a limit to how many enemies he can handle.

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Dec 22, 2008 8:17 PM
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tainteddonut said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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This case against Reuental has many similarities to what happened with Yang. Rumors which may or may not have basis in reality surface and threaten to take down another top official. I doubt that Reinhard will follow the same path as the alliance though. The investigative work didn't go back far enough but instead stopped at Elfriede. If they were to find out the information Lang received came from a former disgruntled alliance official, the claims would hold less weight.

Should Reuental be found innocent the outcome may be very damaging to Oberstein due to Lang's connections with him. Mittermeyer already suspects and even openly accused Oberstein as being behind the false accusations. Oberstein was very careful when warning Lang to be absolutely certain that his actions would not do something to weaken the government. Even though he stated that he doesn't mind being hated, there has to be a limit to how many enemies he can handle.


In other words, Oberstein, as of now, hasn't done anything against Reinhard. And seriously, he really looks like he's the bad guy on the surface but really Reinhard's loyal supporter undercover....
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I wonder. Why we were reminded that it was Oberstein that prevented Kircheis from carrying a weapon on the day of the assasination attempt if not to imply that he might have been in on it? I guess they could be double bluffing us, but I wouldn't be surprised if Oberstein was responsible for his death.
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I was surprised to see that they raised this issue of Kircheies' death after such a long time. I remember thinking the same thing back when he died, I felt it was mostly obersteins fault and that's when I started hating him
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I'm confused about Oberstein; he wants to have the Empire running as smoothly as possible, and yet has no problem appearing to be the bad guy? If these charges do backfire on Lang, he'll have a lot to pay for.

I do hope Reuenthal does make it through; if he's out of the picture, Reinhard will be short another great talent amongst his ranks...even though he and Wolfgang did go under Hilde's orders to invade Heinessen the first time. Dammit...
 
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Nov 3, 2010 8:40 AM

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i don't get what's the big deal...so what if Reuental did that?:)

but i'm positive that Reinhard will forgive him,he's not that close minded

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What a plot by Oberstein. I'm sure that Oberstein invited Lang in that meeting only to have him develop a grudge against Reuenthal. He probably knew that an argument between them would be unavoidable, given their characters and that it would end the way it did.

Oberstein ofcourse sees Reuenthal's ambition. He probably figured out that at some time, rumors will arise about it. I believe he just gave Lang the motivation to use these rumors against Reuenthal, by initially calling him to that meeting.

The way Oberstein positioned himself, is that he will not take the fall for it, if Lang will fail to bring Reuenthal down. If that will happen, which most likely will happen, Lang will take the fall instead of Oberstein.

However even if Reuenthal clears his name, the stigma still remains. This is a link that can be used later. But what does Oberstein have to gain by ridding Reuenthal of the picture? I wonder what's his ultimate goal...
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"Mr. Blond Hair and Mr. Red-Head...you have a visitor." Haha...I really liked that for some reason. That was nice insight into the relationship that the 4 of them had...even though MM wasn't there. I guess I wasn't even thinking because I didn't expect Reuental to get in any trouble with Reinhard over the girl, but I guess it doesn't really look that good.
 
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I hope Oberstien explodes in a ball of fire soon.
 
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Silverhammer said:
I wonder. Why we were reminded that it was Oberstein that prevented Kircheis from carrying a weapon on the day of the assasination attempt if not to imply that he might have been in on it? I guess they could be double bluffing us, but I wouldn't be surprised if Oberstein was responsible for his death.
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What a plot by Oberstein. I'm sure that Oberstein invited Lang in that meeting only to have him develop a grudge against Reuenthal. He probably knew that an argument between them would be unavoidable, given their characters and that it would end the way it did.


You guys aren't thinking big enough. All the way back in My Conquest Is the Sea of Stars, when Oberstein said, "the intercept fleet is prepared to launch," he knew those exact words would trigger a chain of events that would lead the galaxy to the exact position that it's in at the end of episode 75.
 
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Oberstein working with Lang??? I hope this is a wise judgment LOL cause it is now officially Oberstein vs. all other admirals with this incident.
 
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So Lang is working for the former Phezzani person . . . Now why would Oberstein be falling for such an obvious trick, he is literally letting himself be used to hurt the empire. Well, whatever. Anyways, shouldn't the other dude that was used (forget his name) have told Reinhard that there was a possibility he had made a rushed decision after realizing that Lang had tricked him, just to use his signature?
 
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Pirating_Ninja said:
So Lang is working for the former Phezzani person . . . Now why would Oberstein be falling for such an obvious trick, he is literally letting himself be used to hurt the empire. Well, whatever. Anyways, shouldn't the other dude that was used (forget his name) have told Reinhard that there was a possibility he had made a rushed decision after realizing that Lang had tricked him, just to use his signature?


I believe Oberstein doesn't care whether it was a trick or not, so long as he could get an opportunity to purge Reuenthal. As you might have noticed, he is not very keen on having Reuenthal (and Mittermeyer as well) holding too much power, as he considers that as contrary to the stability of the Empire.
 
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After this episode I have decided to add Reuenthal to my favorite character list. He displaced Piccolo, which is regrettable, but even as a True DB/DBZ Fan having 5 characters from it on my list was probably a bit much. Reuenthal joins my favorite character from LOGH, namely Magician Yang. This show has such a high Power Level that it may yet get a 3rd character added to my list. The top considerations are Kircheis (even with only 26 episodes), Julian, Schenkopp, Reinhard, and Frederica. Honestly if i had 10 spots for my favorite characters from LOGH that would not be enough. No show I've ever watched has had so many interesting, realistic, and likable characters like Logh. In that respect not even my Eternal Favorite DB/DBZ can trump it.

fedaykin said:
I wonder. Why we were reminded that it was Oberstein that prevented Kircheis from carrying a weapon on the day of the assasination attempt if not to imply that he might have been in on it? I guess they could be double bluffing us, but I wouldn't be surprised if Oberstein was responsible for his death.


koreye said:
I was surprised to see that they raised this issue of Kircheies' death after such a long time. I remember thinking the same thing back when he died, I felt it was mostly obersteins fault and that's when I started hating him


Whether Oberstein had a hand or was knowledgeable about the assassination is obviously important, but regardless he should have been held accountable and or at the least held in great suspicion indefinitely for his suggestion of preventing Kircheis from carrying a weapon and not getting preferential treatment. The downfall of everything began at the moment and from that decision, and no amount of atonement can forgive that. Obviously Oberstein seems to have no guilt whatsoever from that, so he is doubly damned. Don't get me wrong I like Oberstein and find him very interesting, but he is undoubtedly evil.

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What a plot by Oberstein. I'm sure that Oberstein invited Lang in that meeting only to have him develop a grudge against Reuenthal. He probably knew that an argument between them would be unavoidable, given their characters and that it would end the way it did.

Oberstein ofcourse sees Reuenthal's ambition. He probably figured out that at some time, rumors will arise about it. I believe he just gave Lang the motivation to use these rumors against Reuenthal, by initially calling him to that meeting.


An Amazing point, one of the strongest comments I've seen in the LOGH discussion yet. That was one of my favorite scenes in the show, and helped cement my conclusion that Reuenthal had to make my fav list. To think that it was all intentionally set up by Oberstein is brilliant, both on Oberstein's part in the long run for his plot, and by Kodial with his deduction and enlightening us.
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The great hand of Oberstein has been moving all series. As much as I love Reuenthal, I kinda want to see how it turns out if he DOES get punished. How would Mittermeyer react? How would Reuenthal's vice commanders react? It begs a lot of questions as to how his downfall would play a part in the rise(or fall?) of Reinhard.
 
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Stop showing us scenes with Kircheis dammit, all the feels ;_;
 
Mar 7, 2015 7:48 AM

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I think that Reuntal shouldn't have been prosecuted like that. The whole thing was kind of pointless.
 
May 31, 2015 11:46 AM

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Wait did Ruental lie about not knowing that she was pregnant? Damn they brought up Kicheises death again :( damn Oberstein, I know he is important as an advisor but sometimes I just want him dead...
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Oberstein is grade A jackass lmao, hopefully Reuental won't get punished or shit for this stupid rumour. I wonder if Oberstein might be involved in Kircheis's death too.
 
Jun 19, 2015 6:35 AM

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Oh boy that flashback :/ quite nice episode let's see what happens next though.
 
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I enjoyed the little flashback. I still miss Kircheis...
 
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Oh yeah, I forgot that Chuck Norris Bergengrun was a part of Siegfried's fleet before.
For a while now I would keep asking myself "who was he again?", everytime he would appear on screen xD

So not only Reuenthal stuck is dick inside "crazy", he got "crazy" pregnant? I see that he's a man that likes to live life dangerously lol.
 
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Reuental is very interesting, one of the best characters in the show.
I have a bad feeling that he will be gone soon.
 
Nov 15, 2017 9:42 PM

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Revental can explain the situation in front of the Emperor!!!
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The case against Reuental is wafer thin. He should be fine,Lang might suffer from it though.

I didn't think the girl would sell him out though.

Oberstein had better be careful. He may have too many enemies soon.


Power standings- no changes here:

1) Empire- Currently distracted with the Reuental case
2) Yang El Facil- Thankfully have been bought time
3) Rubinski- His plotting is going well
4) Earth Cult- No update
5) The Goldenbalm's- No update

MVP- Bergengrun. Nice to see hatred for Oberstein bulding steam.
 
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Uhm, I couldn't help but feel sorry for Reuental "I'm not qualified to be someone's parent". I love that guy.

I have no idea what will happen next: Oberstein seems like the bad guy, there are hints that he had been planning everything from the beginning; also Reuental; the Terraist are around who knows where.
 
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Did we ever learn just how Elfriede made her way to Reuenthal in the first place? Who set her up to that? Just how much of a sleeper agent is she?
 
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Did we ever learn just how Elfriede made her way to Reuenthal in the first place? Who set her up to that? Just how much of a sleeper agent is she?


I don't think it was ever mentioned, but I can only see two possibilities. One, she plotted the whole thing herself, which is a testament to the depth of her obsession with Reuenthal. Or two, she was "assisted" by Lang in a scheme to implicate Reuenthal. It may even be a combination of both, but we will never know for sure.
 
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