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Dec 26, 2010 4:16 PM

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Oh my.. I don't know what to rate this series since everyone but Chizuru dies wtf!!
I agree Kazama died too easily.
This series is too depressing T_T
 
Dec 26, 2010 5:02 PM

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ahhhhhh! k so basically hijikata. is. not. dead. k? i mean maybe she imagined him wiping the tear away but im happier if i tell myself he's alive...so he is. and yay for romance finally! if everyone had to die at least we finally got the kiss.
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Dec 26, 2010 7:38 PM

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Fiuh... a sad ending..
hate it when anime taht i like became like this...

Fiuh.. Hijikata-san please alive for chizuru..


 
Dec 26, 2010 8:20 PM

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I wasn't really sad about Hijikata's death, since I hated that guy LOL. [Ik I'll make enemies cause of that statement XD]

Not from me you won't. I liked Hijikata in the first season, but this second season had him completely out of character. Or maybe I just didn't like the "in love" side of Hijikata. His death came as no surprise to me. Seriously, after they started killing off all the others I knew it would turn out this way.

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the ending broke my heart
i hope there is season 3

With who? Chizuru and maybe Shinpachi? XD
I have a better idea. Let's hope for an OVA where Chizuru commits suicide. Or better yet, she is brutally murdered. Honestly, she was so useless throughout this whole show. I didn't hate her at first, but after everything... just wow. She was annoying on a Kagome-level this episode with how many times she gasped, "Hijikata-san!"

*sigh* This second season started out okay, but after everyone was slowly killed off I lost interest. I never expected a decent plot/story from this show as it is based on history. It sucks that they killed off all the characters. So... a 6 or a 7? Six? Seven? 6.5. No, can't do a 6.5. Hm, what to do? 7 for now. Perhaps I'll change it to a 6 later. *Nods*
 
Dec 26, 2010 8:23 PM
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i feel sorry for chizuru... cold and lonely under a sakura tree.
 
Dec 26, 2010 10:01 PM

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Wait so....did Saito die...
and did Hijikata die... I mean he was supposed to like...turn into ash right??
(So confused) But a good ending !! Almost cried....T-T
 
Dec 26, 2010 10:03 PM

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Overall i liked the series. Since i knew a bit about the game i expected the bad ending and not a good ending, for some reason.
The good ending doesn't end the way the anime does so i assume this one is the bad ending. I saw the CG of the last part with Hijikata laying down and it's not on the good ending. D:
The whole lst part just gives you the feeling Hijikata does die, sadly.

Though i felt Chikage died too easily, i was hoping for his ending, actually, since Chizuru (even though i never liked her) ends up completely alone, which is really sad.

This whole season was depressing. I must say i loved the first season because it's their shinsengumi days, except the last episodes.

Now where's that HighSchool special to cheer me up?
 
Dec 26, 2010 11:36 PM

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Lmao, in the end, the one character that was the most useless was the only survivor. Oh the irony!

Regardless, though, the sakura scene was touching and Chizuru HAD managed to work her way back up into my good graces the past few episodes. This was the most beautiful episode of the lot, and the most saddest too. I'm not ashamed to admit that I shed some tears...

And:

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his body did not turn into ash like the others..

ok maybe i am trying to deceive myself


I agree. I, also, am trying to deceive myself that Hijikata did not die because his body had not evaporated into ash and he was merely unconscious...or so sleepy after the fight with Kazama...or just wanted to close his eyes and enjoy the feel of Chizuru's lap....yeah, I'm in deep denial at this point...

A light continuation in an OVA perhaps? With Hijikata alive and Chizuru pregnant and they all live happily ever after? Please? Pretty please????
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Dec 26, 2010 11:47 PM

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As soon as Hiji kissed Chizuru, I knew he was a goner.... They always do this in anime! It is some sort of unwritten rule that if two characters genuinely kiss, and it's not one stealing a kiss from the other, but a real meaningful kiss between the two, then ONE of them is going to die very soon afterward. It happens EVERY time. In EVERY genre of anime that I've seen these rare real kissing scenes.

But, I gotta admit, that was the best real kiss scene I've ever seen in anime! Frakk! Hiji sort of died in an implied way, a way we are meant to infer his death, and I honestly didn't like that part. Because his death is left a bit ambiguous, although it must be that he truly died, I really don't like that concept. It would be much better to give Hiji a death we can all be certain about, if he's gonna die at all.

Didn't like how Kazama died far too easily from simply being run-through. That was hax. And, Chizuru didn't really need to be an oni, so why was she? It seems like that should have been useful to the plot, somehow, but it wasn't. Since she seemed like a normal human, then she should have just been written as one.

Overall, this was a good anime. Not perfect, but still good. It had a lot of plot problems and killing off every single bishie character in a shoujo anime demonstrates cajones to the Nth degree, but it still managed to be good in the parts that were the best parts.
 
Dec 27, 2010 2:45 AM
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When will the OVA be released?
 
Dec 27, 2010 3:04 AM

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Lmao, in the end, the one character that was the most useless was the only survivor. Oh the irony!

Regardless, though, the sakura scene was touching and Chizuru HAD managed to work her way back up into my good graces the past few episodes. This was the most beautiful episode of the lot, and the most saddest too. I'm not ashamed to admit that I shed some tears...

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his body did not turn into ash like the others..

ok maybe i am trying to deceive myself


I agree. I, also, am trying to deceive myself that Hijikata did not die because his body had not evaporated into ash and he was merely unconscious...or so sleepy after the fight with Kazama...or just wanted to close his eyes and enjoy the feel of Chizuru's lap....yeah, I'm in deep denial at this point...

A light continuation in an OVA perhaps? With Hijikata alive and Chizuru pregnant and they all live happily ever after? Please? Pretty please????

My thoughts exactly. It would be great for an ova like that.
 
Dec 27, 2010 3:23 AM

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We should change history somehow so that Hijikata and the others may live.... (even though that this is impossible...) it was so sad when I saw everyone ...and the happy lost days...when they were still happy....this dammed WAR which I hate made everyone lose their beloved ones and made Hijikata die!!

I think I 'll curse the history for being so cruel with this people!!
 
Dec 27, 2010 4:45 AM

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T.T Kazama~san died in a shitty way~ he could never beat him that easily!!!!!
well it was very touching the kissing scene, i almost cried xD
 
Dec 27, 2010 8:22 AM

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I was hoping that Hijikata-san wouldn't die and Saito will be still alive (like the historical Saito Hajime) -.- But now... they are all dead :|
 
Dec 27, 2010 11:53 AM

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WTH!!!;__;

SADDEST ANIME EVER!!!

THEY ALL FREAKEN DIED!!!!! except chizuru...

SO SAD!!! T______T
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Dec 27, 2010 12:34 PM

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That had to be one of the most unsatisfying endings I've seen in a while. Next to Togainu no Chi's failure of an ending. To be honest, one my favorite characters died I wouldn't mind if Hijikata died as well, but that ending hardly gave you any closure at all. Sure, there was that cliffhanger that some people find satisfying but still. The final battle scene was anything but epic. Kazama obviously had the upper hand, and you can speculate that he wanted to be felled by Hijikata, but the way they executed that... All in all I'm hoping the two OVA episodes will be better.
 
Dec 27, 2010 12:43 PM

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OMG This is the end? o.o" I cried (to be honest), I really hoped Hijikata would be alive at the end of the battle... poor Chizuru, "doomed" to be alive without her friends and Hijikata :'(

At least his end was kinda... beautifull with all those sakura trees <3 It was really sad but they've done a great job. I really liked the season even though it were only 10 episodes... But man what a sad plot :(
 
Dec 27, 2010 4:31 PM

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I'm laughing here though.

I had lost all hope and expectation from the series after episode 6 (SANO DIES = FAIL) and further deaths didn't surprise me much. I really enjoyed the first season. It had moments and some good fights and it had CHARACTERS walking around. This was devastating beyond words. Everything about it. SO much that it's funny.

That little kiss I was waiting for since ... summer? It was pretty much ignorable.
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Dec 27, 2010 5:22 PM

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oh shit...Chizuru never got a shot at happiness?

man the ending blew big time.....that shitfuck Kazama should of left after declaring him an Oni

hopefully he's just taking a nap, cause I sure as hell didn't see his body go out in flames....they should of ended this episode with a year passing by, with Hijikata somehow pulling a plotkai out of his ass, and surviving for that long, with the two getting married and conceiving a child. At least that's what I hoped for.

What I got was Kazama trying to NTR Hijikata the entire series, and doing a piss poor job at that, and the almighty Hijikata put to sleep by a bullet, whom if he wasn't riding the ragetrain while on roids, rushing in like stupid, wouldn't even get him by it.

I sure hope the two OVA's will be the "good" ending, cause god knows Chizuru deserves happiness, and an entire season and most of the eps from the second season of pretending to be a guy.
 
Dec 27, 2010 8:36 PM

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That had to be one of the most unsatisfying endings I've seen in a while. Next to Togainu no Chi's failure of an ending.

Quote for truth.

Season one was great. I was hooked, so I finished S1 and S2 within a few days of my Christmas break. S2 = love/hate. It revolved too much around death and things like "survive and live on!!! or "don't rush too quickly to your death!!!" bs. This was like every other line.

Maybe I didn't catch certain details since I watched it in one sitting but:

Imo Saitou survived. It's just a feeling. That's what I like best about this anime is that parts are left to the viewer to decide. Heh, the portrayal of Sannan made me hate his guts, up until the double betrayl. It really caught me off guard since he gives off such an evil smartass Aizen traitor vibe (sorry for all the Bleach references).

I don't really care much for the romance between Chizuru and Hijikata. But whenever Chizuru draws her sword, I can't help but get excited since you think you finally get to see her fight. Too bad that never happens. Ever. Ugh, I laugh at the fact that she's an oni. Like wat okay there.

Sad. Beautiful art and music. Hottie bishounens. Recommended tho hahahaha
 
Dec 28, 2010 5:08 AM
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Very good anime, even considering that I felt that something is missing in both first and second seasons.
Last EP was good, Hiji-Kasama fight was boring, but it's more historical/drama than action anime, so who cares.
It's sad that this anime ended *sob* *sob*
 
Dec 28, 2010 7:34 PM
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Well at least this episode had more action and


So bummed there is no Saito.
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Dec 29, 2010 4:53 AM
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I refuse to believe he died! If you look at it closely, he's not wearing clothes like he just came out of a battle. (they were bloody) He had both his swords on his side and he would have turned to ash or something. Plus Chizuru said lets see the cherry blossom's next year too, maybe that's why they're there. Anyways, it was night when they fought, then all of a sudden it turned to daytime. Either that's the fastest 9+ hours in anime history or it's a different time period. Unless that's animation fail on Studio DEEN's behalf. Sano's death made me cry, and when everybody died I hated it with a passion. I was like FFFF but yeah, depressing. Feel so empty : ( and Saitou's win.
 
Dec 29, 2010 2:24 PM
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I just LOVE how Chizuru's the last one standing. [/heavysarcasm]
 
Dec 29, 2010 4:58 PM

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Anyways, it was night when they fought, then all of a sudden it turned to daytime. Either that's the fastest 9+ hours in anime history or it's a different time period. Unless that's animation fail on Studio DEEN's behalf.

Lol, denial? :P

If you watched Nurarihyon no Mago or Inuyasha then you'd see the sun rising fast like that all the time. And it's not just those two. It happens in anime a lot. I think it's pretty safe to say Hijikata is dead.

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Kodou's death was really pathetic. It's like, dude, those are your soldiers. Just tell them not to kill you or Chizuru instead of throwing yourself into their blades. Anyways, just because he's an oni doesn't mean he wouldn't die. Chikage proved that admirably. Kodou wasn't actually her father, but a distant relative. Are we even sure he's a full-blooded oni himself?

As for Shinpachi, they never confirmed what happened to him. He just left and was never shown again. An epic Kenpachi x Ichigo x Byakuya x Hichigo level battle, eh? Those are kind of high expectations for a reverse-harem historical romance. But I do get what you're saying. The final dash-and-die of classic samurai battles wasn't really that epic in this case.
 
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About Koudou. Actually it was really weird how he died. And it was lame. Remember how Shiranui was walking as if nothing happened with at least two holes in his body when he and Sano were done fighting with Koudou's army.

So I dunno, it's one of those plot holes. They just HAD to kill him, just like all the other characters :S I actually loled at his dying scene with the whole "father-daughter" thing.
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Dec 30, 2010 3:27 AM
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uuugh can't believe hijikata died too D': poor Chizuru ...can't stop getting teary whenever i think about it =.=
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Dec 30, 2010 3:46 AM
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i know it would come since its a history based anime and Chizuru is useless till the end =.=


Well, she isn't in history at first place. Shouldn't bother about
her existence. The story just match with the real history. Just accept
the way they are. Duhhhh.
 
Dec 30, 2010 5:56 PM

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I just finished it last night. Not sure why they animated the bad ending instead of the good one. More people wanted that one? No idea.
*Depreseed mode on*

I wasn't too thrilled with every single character dying off one by one like dominos. Nor when a couple characters (like Shimpachi) vanish and we don't know what happens with them. Other people like Okita is kind of obvious though.

I've read previous ep discussion threads and a lot of people seem to be upset when certain characters die because it's not "following history"... er... why is it only at that point people are bringing that up? Vampire-like demons and Chizuru aren't in history >___> We just have to remember that this is only 'loosely' following history.

I wish Chizuru wasn't so useless. What was the point of her being a demon? She could have been called a human throughout the series and nothing would have changed.

anyway, I would give it 7.5 out of 10. The animation is great, and it was more faster paced than season one (which i found kind of boring).
 
Dec 31, 2010 12:51 AM

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Hakuouki ended with everyone's life ending...seriously was it necessary to kill EVERY ONE of them??? i mean...WHY ISNT THIS LABELED AS TRAGEDY???? i think ive cried in this anime more than some animes that have the label tragedy in them!!

and they crammed the romance part of the anime into this episode....very cute the way he confessed to her saying " i am possibly in love with you" awwww~~ cutie~~~ ;D
 
Dec 31, 2010 7:35 PM

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so how could i stop crying...?
i still cant belive Hakuouki is end.....
i cannot believe he died either i cried like a baby
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Jan 1, 2011 7:40 AM

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It sucks. I really didn't like this ending.
 
Jan 1, 2011 8:05 PM

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i can't believe i am crying so much! actually i don't like the way it ends..
too bad they all died! even now i am still under depression !
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Jan 3, 2011 1:22 AM
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This was a great show. To me it was very emotional. I felt my heart ache seeing everyone die. I was really surprised that almost everyone died that's for sure. I hated the last episode! It was so sad!

I don't think Hijikata is dead. Chizuru I think at the end was just remembering everyone and the good times and being together with everyone again. If Hijikata really died then he would of turn into ashes at that second but he turned back to his human side like in the episode where Heisuke and Sannan-san are dieing. They were still in there rasetsu form when they turned to ashes. Also it might be possible that Saito isn't dead. There's a pretty good chance that he is dead but he might not... Also how could Chikage die so easily! He's an oni! Isn't also possible that Sanosuke isn't dead. Couldn't Kyo have saved him? Kyo also disapeared.
 
Jan 4, 2011 6:38 AM

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Well, they decide to do Hijikata's route so i guess DEEN practically use all of the game material ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌
+ This is a History based so deal with tearjerker ending
 
Jan 4, 2011 7:27 PM

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Historically, Saito and Shinpachi lived to old age... so I think that's why their "endings" were left ambiguous in Hakuouki Hekketsuroku.

I was okay with Chizuru ending up with Hijikata, as Hijikata was my favorite. But actually, I think Hijikata deserved better than Chizuru to end up with! =D
 
Jan 5, 2011 10:46 AM
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I think that Hijikata-san didn't die as an Oni as he turned back into a human.
If I didn't miss anything about how Rasetsu could die then..

Hijikata died because of severe blood loss.

All of you could see what that gun shot did to his body, and even though he shouldn't have fight anymore to avoid more blood loss he still moved around freely etc.
 
Jan 5, 2011 11:15 PM

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If only Hijikata would have lived in the shinsengumi, I would have rated this anime down to a 6 just because it wouldn't have been fair. Still can't believe they killed off ALL of them! (wahhhhh Souuujiiiiii)

At least the ending was well done. I'm glad it ended with a scene of Hijikata and Chikage instead of another history lesson. Though when it came to the flashbacks, I just bawled like a baby. D: It's been 10 minutes and I'm still bawling..
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Jan 6, 2011 11:43 PM

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This is what I have to say about that ending...

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Jan 8, 2011 10:46 PM

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Epic episode! I love how the Hakuouki name came together.
 
Jan 11, 2011 3:18 AM

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Hakuouki ended with everyone's life ending...seriously was it necessary to kill EVERY ONE of them??? i mean...WHY ISNT THIS LABELED AS TRAGEDY???? i think ive cried in this anime more than some animes that have the label tragedy in them!!

and they crammed the romance part of the anime into this episode....very cute the way he confessed to her saying " i am possibly in love with you" awwww~~ cutie~~~ ;D


yes this should totally be labeled as tragedy. it's almost tragic from the start to the end, for this season at least. DAMN why did everyone die q_q I'd rather they left things ambiguous all the way.
 
Jan 13, 2011 1:42 PM

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Why did they all have to die .... i can't stop crying >___<
 
Jan 13, 2011 4:32 PM

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Suzayy said:
+ This is a History based so deal with tearjerker ending
I guess I'm kind of the odd one out, because I wasn't really that sad about Hijikata's death. It was just annoying. Souji's and Saitou's supposed death I felt bad about because I liked those characters. There were definitely no tears, though. I don't understand how some people can cry over anime so easily. o.O

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yes this should totally be labeled as tragedy. it's almost tragic from the start to the end, for this season at least. DAMN why did everyone die q_q I'd rather they left things ambiguous all the way.
Ambigous as in not knowing if each of the members of the Shinsengumi died or not? Definitely not. I like solid endings where you know what happened. Be warned! The following are ENDING spoilers: Not endings like in Code Geass where

Or the ending of Phantom: Requiem for the Phantom where people argued that


But I do agree that this should be labeled a tragedy. It definitely wasn't a happy ending where they play house, that's for sure.
 
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i guess i have to watch it again.. for me to put an end to this feeling
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Ambigous as in not knowing if each of the members of the Shinsengumi died or not? Definitely not. I like solid endings where you know what happened. Be warned! The following are ENDING spoilers: Not endings like in Code Geass where

Or the ending of Phantom: Requiem for the Phantom where people argued that


But I do agree that this should be labeled a tragedy. It definitely wasn't a happy ending where they play house, that's for sure.


Well, with all the examples you gave, yeah I agree and definitely prefer sure endings. But somehow just for this season I didn't want to know exactly what happened. Well, I really don't get why Chizuru was the only one left alive. I know it's based on an otome game, but still, argh!!! ._.

Just an afterthought, the art and characters are drawn so beautifully there's zero reality feel to it. Ah but it doesn't really matter much anyway.
 
Jan 19, 2011 7:14 AM

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WUAH!!! What a intense ending!!! Can't put my mind straight now!!! X.X
 
Jan 23, 2011 1:41 AM

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Don't expect a happy ending in this series.. since everything was well explained on how "this and that" things work. Example, being a rasetsu will definitely lead you to death soon. And since I hated everything that had happened since the 1st episode that one by one they make sacrifice and died later.. now I understand the true meaning of a Samurai.. and their deaths didn't seem nonsense at all. And how Hijikata defeated Kazama and he also died after that was perfect.. anyway the series is still good though everyone didn't survived.

7/10

and btw.. I was glad they didn't stick to the synopsis about Chizuru's father.. now that was really lame to me. And everything about Chizuru - was so annoying.

Yeah I know some of you was hoping for a happy ending but.. Samurai or a true warrior doesn't imply to this setting.. there will be always tragedy and deaths ahead
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Jan 23, 2011 9:26 AM
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That's so sad, but at the same time it's happy too. The ending was executed perfectly and I really thinik they did very well. Those kinds of endings are some of the best to me. This show is in my heart always and has truly touched me. I cry without regrets.
 
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This is what I have to say about that ending...

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ahhh, thank you. After marathoning both seasons only to have everyone end up dead and feeling like I wasted my day, I can now sleep peacefully after having a good laugh at that.
 
Jan 28, 2011 4:55 PM

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So what if they "all" died...i like some good cry for fictional characters:D
(The thing that is pissing me off is that the only character i wanted to die didn´t die...yes,Chizuru...maaaan,she was completly useless.)

No,seriously...if you just looked up biographies of the guys you would have know what is going to happen and what you should expect.
(except Heisuke´s and Sannan´s death were not really accurate...in date.Well,of course they did not die like that too,lol)
We haven´t seen Saitou and Shinpachi die because they were the only ones who lived till 1915 and died as an old dudes.

I loved this season.
 
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