So, does anyone hate Kirino?
| I can't believe so many people dislike Kirino for being a "bitch". I don't even see it that way at all. She likes her brother and always has. She's just hiding it because their relationship is not the type where they would openly admit to caring about each other. It's more of a relationship like where a sister and brother would always call each other "gross", accuse each other of having cooties, and act mean, but both siblings know that it's not serious. It's like a friendly rivalry. It's just the way they communicate. For example, it is embarrassing for Kirino to ask for her brother's help, so it's easier for her to demand it instead. Her brother knows it's just her way of asking for help. And if she did ask for help instead of demanding it, it'd cause Kyousuke some embarrassment to have to agree to it. It's easier for him to pretend that he is just grudgingly accepting the fact that he is "required" to help, even though he really wants to help. Even Kyousuke wouldn't normally ever admit that he cared about his sister in any way, shape, or form. If someone asked why he helped Kirino make friends, he'd answer that it was so he could get rid of her more so that she was less of a bother to him. He'd pretend that it was for selfish reasons. Is that mean? Not really, because it's not true. They both pretend to not like each other. Both know that the other's actions aren't really serious. Kyousuke knows that Kirino's meanness is just an overreaction regarding some small issues. It's how she expresses herself. Kirino is able to physically assault Kyousuke because she's comfortable in the knowledge that he understands she is overreacting and won't be upset by it. Why do you think he just gets slightly annoyed rather than outright mad after getting kicked in the nuts? I find Kirino and her relationships to be really cute, especially the way she is slowly breaking down the unspoken rule about not being openly sincere. I think Kirino really cares about people, but simply isn't comfortable showing it so bluntly. Her brother and friends know it. How do you think she and Kuroneko are still friends despite that constant rivalry? |
| I don't dislike tsundere's but I don't exactly like her bitchiness. I'm in it for Kuroneko. |
Timofmars said: snip. Still does not excuse the fact that Kirino SUDDENLY demands help from her brother after ignoring him for most of his life. Actually, Kirino seems to have been a loner for most of her childhood, considering that she doesn't even recall Manami Tamura who has been visiting their house for all those years already. They're siblings that don't even talk to each other until after she's in middle school and he's in high school. As a guy, Kyousuke's first thought would always be "I must have done something wrong to her, I just don't remember, so I can't really do anything about that". While in Kirino's case, it's simply just like she didn't have a brother at all. Yet she drowns herself with all that onii-chan/imouto eroge/anime. If it really would be a simple case of being "too shy", then that's impossible because what she has basically done was ignore her brother. You can't be shy to someone you ignore. How can that person be a target of your shyness then if you ignore him? |
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| I cannot express my hate for Kirino in words. She is a damn b****!!! o_O How can she be like that?? There my be a limit to arrogance... Actually I love Tsundere characters, but Kirino is not Tsundere, she is mentally challenged, seriously... In Reality this "girl" would have been killed by someone already... Damn, this would be such a great series WITHOUT Kirino and yes I'm serious. I hate her more than all of you Makoto Itou haters in the world together. |
<3 <3 <3 Kei is love <3 <3 <3 |
entropy13 said: Still does not excuse the fact that Kirino SUDDENLY demands help from her brother after ignoring him for most of his life. -snip- -snip- If it really would be a simple case of being "too shy", then that's impossible because what she has basically done was ignore her brother. You can't be shy to someone you ignore. How can that person be a target of your shyness then if you ignore him? Shy isn't the right word. It's more like feeling awkward or embarrassed because the accepted norm for their relationship is to act like they don't care. To show that you care is humiliating to your pride. It's like some boys in middle school who act like girls are gross and have cooties and so would tease any boy who shows interest in any of the girls... even though every one of the boys secretly likes the girls too. They more-or-less know that the other boys like girls too, but they just don't want to be the one to admit it and be "hazed" by the others, hurting their pride. It's the same for Kirino and her brother. "Ew, get away, you're my gross sibling" is basically the agreed upon norm. I'd call it a tough-love sibling rivalry, based on pride. They act tough, ignore each other (or act annoyed to be near each other), but they put that aside (partially at least) when confronted with anything more threatening to their well-being than protecting their pride. The difficulty Kirino has in thanking Kyousuke isn't because she isn't sure that he deserves it or that she doesn't fully appreciate it because she hates him too much. Rather, the difficulty for her is that admitting appreciation for him saving her requires that she swallows her pride and admits defeat in the sibling rivalry, like a wild tiger rolling to it's back to give up in a fight with a sibling for dominance. That's why Kyousuke is in disbelief that she actually thanked him. For him, the fact that she thanked him indicates just how very thankful and appreciative she must be, and that's what makes it SO DAMN CUTE! :) |
TimofmarsDec 14, 2010 1:44 AM
rlime said: I used to like Kirino but she gets more bitchy and annoying every episode that yes, I have started to dislike her. So, does anyone (besides me) dislike Kirino? DISCUSS. I do, and if I can have it my way, I'd be spanking her by now. |
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Kirino-phan said: As much as I love Kirino (despite my hate for Tsunderes), i can admit that yes, she can be annoying at times. But personally, after reading a few posts on another forum, I personally, come to like her alot more and actually started to symphatize her. Now, heres my opinion of Kirino... But just before that let me ask this, how many of you guys actually read the LN before watching the anime? Now, back to the opinion.... So yeah, thats my opinion of her. But, the anime is nearly at its end now, it'll only be fair to further judge her base on how she is in the Light Novel, not the anime. And personally, i look forward to a second season if there is one, hopefully it'll show Kirino in a different light than what she is now. Ok, so after all that blah, blah and blah, the fact here is that the author of this anime really presented Kirino as someone whom you would like to hate, though she did make up for her bitchiness against Kyousuke in ep 11 which probably is the most touching part. But let's not forget that for the viewers to hate Kirino is a first impression that was introduce, so therefore no body can be blame for judging Kirino's rude behavior and besides, she may have made up with her brother in ep11, so what about her brother's fiance Manami whom she tries to sabotage by bringing her laptop with some eroge game in it and pulling out her brother's porn mag? So, in someways a lot of viewers would have been touch in ep11, but a lot of Kirino haters would agree with me that she still owes Manami an apology, so I still hate her. |
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Persocom said: I don't dislike tsundere's but I don't exactly like her bitchiness. I'm in it for Kuroneko. So do I, she's KAWAIII!!!!! |
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| There's this awesome speculation as to why Kirino is acting that way and why they started to ignore each other in the first place, so I'll post it here. It's not mine, but it matches perfectly with the events in the novel. SPOILERS! Yesterday, I read the summaries for the novel, thanks to Seanver, and boy, am I glad I did. The story just keeps getting better and better, too bad that the anime is ending. If it ends like the 4th volume ended, I'm gonna baww ;_; |
Nao-staniDec 14, 2010 1:30 PM
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| I REALLY HATE HER and she should definitely get a reality check! Why is she so popular? (your vote) |
| I've loved her since the 1st episode. Theirs nothing she could do to make me mad at her lol. |
| Three Thousand Realms in a Single Moment |
| so, till now... based on result..many users still prefer personality over looks...it's good result not like most of Fujoshi,,they just choose looks over personality... |
Nao-stani said: Soooo...she really was just a jealous sister all along. Pfft, that hardly changed my impression of her. Let's not forget here that Kirino was the one who restarted the relationship again. If she's so immature that she couldn't see Kyousuke's life didn't revolve around her kawaii imouto then she was almost asking to get dissapointed.There's this awesome speculation as to why Kirino is acting that way and why they started to ignore each other in the first place, so I'll post it here. It's not mine, but it matches perfectly with the events in the novel. SPOILERS! Yesterday, I read the summaries for the novel, thanks to Seanver, and boy, am I glad I did. The story just keeps getting better and better, too bad that the anime is ending. If it ends like the 4th volume ended, I'm gonna baww ;_; potplant said: A bitch is a bitch, reasons or no reasons. I like how her fans find an excuse for all her actions.There are quite a few different camps of Kirino haters actually, so not surprised. There are the ones that mental blocked the bro/sis con overtures, hence the rationale behind her behaviour. Needless to say this automatically classified her as a bitch. Some dislike a tsun behaviour in general, to this there's no solution. Some labeled pigeon-holed her a tsundere then proceed to complain when the dere does not come at the expected intevals. What word do you describe a character who express dere feelings with tsun? hah.. It is exacerbated by the supporting cast that are in stark contrast to Kirino. The depth of Kuroneko as a character is hardly explored in the anime until the last couple episodes and a lot of it as a foil to Kirino. It is fair to say without Kirino Kuroneko will be a pretty stagnant character but there's still sizable following on Kuroneko's 'development' when not accepting Kirino at the same time. It is kind of broken. I myself suffer from this. I absolutely hate Manami-type, in anime or real-life. The type that exists in real-life do nothing but churn out horrible partners and retarded kids :(. Therefore I find myself cheering on Kirino in ep11. |
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| Maybe if the makers decided to make a prequel(doesn't have to be another season or anything) to shed more light as to why Kirino is being that way, t hen i back away on my statement about her. |
Timofmars said: Shy isn't the right word. It's more like feeling awkward or embarrassed because the accepted norm for their relationship is to act like they don't care. To show that you care is humiliating to your pride. It's like some boys in middle school who act like girls are gross and have cooties and so would tease any boy who shows interest in any of the girls... even though every one of the boys secretly likes the girls too. They more-or-less know that the other boys like girls too, but they just don't want to be the one to admit it and be "hazed" by the others, hurting their pride. It's the same for Kirino and her brother. "Ew, get away, you're my gross sibling" is basically the agreed upon norm. I'd call it a tough-love sibling rivalry, based on pride. They act tough, ignore each other (or act annoyed to be near each other), but they put that aside (partially at least) when confronted with anything more threatening to their well-being than protecting their pride. The difficulty Kirino has in thanking Kyousuke isn't because she isn't sure that he deserves it or that she doesn't fully appreciate it because she hates him too much. Rather, the difficulty for her is that admitting appreciation for him saving her requires that she swallows her pride and admits defeat in the sibling rivalry, like a wild tiger rolling to it's back to give up in a fight with a sibling for dominance. That's why Kyousuke is in disbelief that she actually thanked him. For him, the fact that she thanked him indicates just how very thankful and appreciative she must be, and that's what makes it SO DAMN CUTE! :) Is that really the "norm"? What a f**ked up norm that is then. So what happened with my siblings then isn't the "norm", since my older brother helped me "get to grips" with assembling Gundam models 14 years ago, as well as with RTS games in the PC, then I also play with him with the Playstation. My sister too plays with us with the PS games too. |
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Leon-Gun said: this comment WIN!... How pathetic,,many ppls still can find lot of excuses for chara like her... and said,,good chara like Manami is boring shit... agghh! this is fucking stupid! |
| ^that's not the point,,, the point is, why lot of ppls like her even though she is a bitch...if you like her so much, at least don't make an excuse, just say you love her that's it... I don't care she's main chara or something... |
IZUMI64Dec 16, 2010 10:02 AM
| Kirino is a huge cunt. That is all. |
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entropy13 said: Is that really the "norm"? What a f**ked up norm that is then. So what happened with my siblings then isn't the "norm", since my older brother helped me "get to grips" with assembling Gundam models 14 years ago, as well as with RTS games in the PC, then I also play with him with the Playstation. My sister too plays with us with the PS games too. No, the norm for you and your siblings was different. It's not some universal norm. It's a case by case basis. Some families are very polite and affectionate with each other, so any type of insult or physical violence by a family member would be shocking and hurtful. Other families thrive on insulting and belittling each other to the point where it is expected, and the family members aren't offended by it. Have you ever seen the TV show "Modern Family"? That's a good example of siblings picking on each other, insulting each other, and annoying each other, yet it doesn't cause animosity. In a family like that, a sibling would probably feel lonely and ignored if they weren't targeted. That's their bonding. Kirino would fit in fine with me, for example. Growing up, I didn't talk to my older brother except when necessary. We just lived in the same house, and that is all. We didn't ask for anything from each other. If I were to ask him to hand me something that is next to him, he'd say "get it yourself", and I'd say the same to him. It was a matter of pride, I suppose. It was quite like Kirino's situation before she talked to her brother. On the other hand, I actually was on friendlier terms with my little brother, and I could draw some parallels to Kirino's relationship with her brother later in the series. When I'd play some games with my little brother, if he would beat me repeatedly in a game, I'd take out my frustration on him by punching him in the arm and saying "you suck, you lucky bastard!". He didn't take offense to it because insulting each other is our norm, although he would get annoyed if his arm started to hurt (like Kyousuke only shows annoyance toward's Kirino's physical assault, but doesn't take it personally). So I was like Kirino, lol. Physically attacking my brother, not to hurt him, but to express frustration. We hardly talked, and it'd be brief if we did, like "Are there any good games do you want mom to get us for Christmas?". Again, that's like Kirino dragging her brother into eroge to be able to talk to him about it. Talking sincerely about personal matters would be way too awkward for both of us. So if there were ever a problem we wanted an opinion on, we wouldn't ask for advice. Instead, maybe we'd complain out loud to allow the other to answer pretending to be slightly annoyed, as if answering just to get us to shut up. Again, that's like Kyousuke who always seems to act slightly annoyed to be helping Kirino, yet we know he really wants to help. And when he stops acting annoyed and instead looks too sincere, it makes Kirino uncomfortable so she hits him to make him act annoyed again. If I had Kirino as a little sister, I'd find her attacks to be heartwarming and adorable. Like "awww, she really needs me". Well, at least after the pain subsides, anyway :D |
| She's cute, I'd want her as my sister. |
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Timofmars said: It's a case by case basis. It's not a norm then. Norms are either imposed on you by the society you are in or are adopted by the society because it is prevalent within it. Timofmars said: Have you ever seen the TV show "Modern Family"? That's a good example of siblings picking on each other, insulting each other, and annoying each other, yet it doesn't cause animosity. In a family like that, a sibling would probably feel lonely and ignored if they weren't targeted. That's their bonding. Nope, don't have cable tv. Timofmars said: -snip- We have very different situations then. Being the youngest, I'm the only one who's still a student (although I'm in college now). I'm already an uncle since my siblings have a daughter (my brother's) and a son (my sister's). Leon-Gun said: A bitch is a bitch, reasons or no reasons. I like how her fans find an excuse for all her actions. Quite disappointed with myself because I missed this! F**K YEAH. |
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Kirino-phan said: *wipes tears from eyes* I'm not gonna lie, I honestly commend you for posting this. Its not everyday I see such a meaningful post. Lol, I feel like I'm the savior of Kirino fans in this thread. entropy13 said: Timofmars said: It's a case by case basis. It's not a norm then. Norms are either imposed on you by the society you are in or are adopted by the society because it is prevalent within it. A norm is the expectations/standards within a society OR group. There can be different norms within different groups of siblings, families, schools, social circles, etc. But there's no point in arguing over a word's scope. The point here is to help you and others to understand the behavior of Kirino in the context we "Kirino-lovers" see it, so that you can enjoy the show in part because of Kirino, not despite her. I have no interest in "defending" or "excusing" Kirino or taking it personally if someone calls her a bitch. That's just ridiculous, as is insisting that people who like her are in denial or something, and teaming up with like-minded people to wage some retarded internet battle over it, lol. Leon-Gun said: A bitch is a bitch, reasons or no reasons. I like how her fans find an excuse for all her actions. I simply don't see Kirino as a bitch. I don't see her actions towards her brother as negative or abusive. In fact, I see it as affectionate, believe it or not. There is no malice in what she does. She doesn't intend to hurt anyone or make anyone feel bad. She doesn't literally mean the things she says and everyone involved knows it. This is unlike what I'd consider a real bitch that schemes to put people down and that truly feels superior to others. If one of her physical hits on Kyousuke were to go too far and make him actually angry, she'd be sorry and would be sure to tone it down next time. If he got angry and seriously demanded that she never hit him, she'd stop hitting him altogether. And she knows that Kyousuke knows that her verbal assaults aren't serious either. If he took it seriously, she'd stop that too. But then she probably would have an even harder time talking to him about personal problems because that fiery demeanor is what she uses to get over her insecurities. It's her crutch. Want some evidence? If you saw the 2nd half of the 11th episode, what Kyousuke was upset about was the sexual tension and awkwardness Kirino created between him and Manami (with the magazines and eroge in his room)i, because he's always just considered her a friend. That's the reason he says he'd been depressed lately. None of Kirino's other antics bothered him. So while you see her behavior as bitch-like, Kyousuke (and us "Kirino-fans" who see it like Kyousuke does) have a very different view. He was also wondering why, while he's depressed, Kirino seemed to be holding this anime celebration party just to tease him some more. He only thought she was being mean at this moment because of the timing. He doesn't mind being teased, but to do it while he's depressed because of something she did is adding insult to injury. Of course, the party was supposed to be for her to apologize and to cheer him up, but she just hadn't yet worked up the courage to actually give the apology. When the apology comes, it's overwhelming and causes him to cry. Why? Because a thoughtful party just for him, and a sincere apology and thank you from the heart of Kirino, is more meaningful coming from her because it shows the massive amounts of love and gratitude she must feel toward him to lower her impenetrable "tsundere defenses" to do all this. On the Kirino scale of gratitude, a "Hmmmph!" is a "thanks a lot", a "thanks" is "OMG, thank you so much!", and what she did here is like a confession that she owes everything to him and loves him from bottom of her heart for everything he's done. And of course, Kyousuke denies that he's crying, however obvious it may be, and Kirino yells at him for crying and calls it "gross", like her usual self. They both try to publicly deny any affectionate feelings because their norm is to put on an act to hide those embarrassing feelings, but that has no bearing on their actual feelings. A different set of siblings might hug each other and let their emotions pour out. It's just different norms of expression, but the underlying relationship is the same. |
| That's simply more evidence to hate Kirino even more. And more evidence to prove that Kyousuke is Noble Stupid. It really is a very big disappointment that Ayana Taketatsu had to voice Kirino. Mio in MM! was acceptable, but Kirino... |
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entropy13 said: That's simply more evidence to hate Kirino even more. And more evidence to prove that Kyousuke is Noble Stupid. Huh? Nobel Stupid? Your reply lacks some substance... I certainly don't see anything there as being evidence to hate Kirino, since I wrote it with the opposite intention. So if you can't detail specifically why that's the case, how am I supposed to understand where exactly the point of disagreement lies? I understand how you see Kirino as a bitch. That's an easy viewpoint to see. I just don't know where specifically you find fault to disagree with in my explanation. You know, tell me why my explanation is inaccurate. I guess you're saying that Kyousuke's reaction to Kirino is irrelevant? Even if he were to show enjoyment from her behavior, or if he'd laugh it off each time, Kirino would still be a bitch? I mean, if he got angry or cried or yelled at Kirino when she does those things, and she would continue to do those things just the same, then I'd agree with you that she's a bitch. But that's not the case. She walks the fine line of being difficult and feisty, yet not unpleasant or hurtful. Do you think Kirino is trying to hurt Kyousuke's feelings? What is her intention? What is her mindset? Why does she act that way towards some and not others? I can't tell if you really don't get what I'm saying, or if you get it and decline to agree. |
| I don't really like her but it's sure that if she isn1t in this anime it's would be boring however i thought that she's rudeness gonna dissapear by time but she is more irritating in every new episode |
| I love tsundere's so I can put up with Kirino. |
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Timofmars said: entropy13 said: That's simply more evidence to hate Kirino even more. And more evidence to prove that Kyousuke is Noble Stupid. Huh? Nobel Stupid? Your reply lacks some substance... I certainly don't see anything there as being evidence to hate Kirino, since I wrote it with the opposite intention. So if you can't detail specifically why that's the case, how am I supposed to understand where exactly the point of disagreement lies? I understand how you see Kirino as a bitch. That's an easy viewpoint to see. I just don't know where specifically you find fault to disagree with in my explanation. You know, tell me why my explanation is inaccurate. I guess you're saying that Kyousuke's reaction to Kirino is irrelevant? Even if he were to show enjoyment from her behavior, or if he'd laugh it off each time, Kirino would still be a bitch? I mean, if he got angry or cried or yelled at Kirino when she does those things, and she would continue to do those things just the same, then I'd agree with you that she's a bitch. But that's not the case. She walks the fine line of being difficult and feisty, yet not unpleasant or hurtful. Do you think Kirino is trying to hurt Kyousuke's feelings? What is her intention? What is her mindset? Why does she act that way towards some and not others? I can't tell if you really don't get what I'm saying, or if you get it and decline to agree. this what ppls call "an excuse". If you like that bitch so much just shut up and don't make excuses... actually, now you're trying to convince us. you indirectly said "Kirino is actually good girl, so believe me and love her like I do"... don't give me a bullshit. don't care how much you love her... We haters have a reason to hate her, from beginning till now We know her as a bitch because she is acting like a bitch... So it's wasted your time... |
IZUMI64 said: actually, now you're trying to convince us. No kidding. Isn't that the point? Do you have something against discussion on a forum? Isn't that what they are for? You make it sound like you've uncovered a big secret or something, lol. IZUMI64 said: don't give me a bullshit. don't care how much you love her... We haters have a reason to hate her, from beginning till now We know her as a bitch because she is acting like a bitch... So it's wasted your time... Wow, with all that bitching right there, for a moment I thought Kirino got a MAL account! With how much you and Kirino seem to have in common, I'm surprised you're not more sympathetic towards her. Lol. But seriously, if you're gonna take it personally and start some flame war over this, I'm not interested. You're obviously not making a good faith effort to actually read and try to understand and discuss, so I see no reason for you to continue to comment. We know your position and that you don't care what anyone else thinks. Ok. Thanks. Cya around. |
| I stopped hating her after watching EP 11 |
| Sorry, there's no "Noble Stupid" alignment lol It's either Stupid Good or Chaotic Stupid. Regardless Kyousuke wields the Idiot Ball very tightly. Considering that Kirino Kicks The Dog, is a Jerkass, and a Green Eyed Monster, she's essentially The Scrappy. |
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| Kirino is a totally flat 2d character whose only purpose is to satisfy the fetishes of tsundere loli/imouto loving otaku. Everything she does matches the predictable formula |
| Never been a big fan of tsundere myself, but I don't feel either way about her. I would like her more if she wasn't moody 95% (hell, 98%) of the time and treated her brother a bit more like how he deserves, but her love of kawaii things and mahou shoujo is a big plus in my book. It's a like-dislike thing, for me. |
| Well after the "good ending" Kirino's now the Bitch in Sheep's Clothing. |
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| Tsunderes ftw :D, personally i wonder what it would be like to actually live with one... o wait... i do T_T. Much better in animes Kirino's better than my sister. Actually cares about what her brother thinks ... |
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| I'm usually a fan of the loli tsundere buuuuut Kirino on the other hand i now can't stand. I didn't mind her for the first few episodes but wow she kept getting more and more annoying until the very end. Kyousuke is just as stupid for putting up with it though. |
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| If I were Kirino's big brother I'd probably slapped her with my "HO" hand. And wat's up with Kyousuke, why can't he even say NO to his bitchy little sister? |
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| I love how fans try to explain characters that are extremely based on a stereotype and that's it LOL |
| Definitely the first one Whatever a little sister's trait will be, I'll take them all wholeheartedly xDD note: I don't have a little sister :( so I want Kirino to be my little sister at least so my life will be more interesting xDD |
| Count me in. I don't hate her, but she's annoying and I can't say that I like her. Well, it may be just because I've used to hate tsundere heroines, with a few exceptions, like Fate/stay night's Rin, or Sharin no Kuni's Touka. |
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| I don't like her. I hate her...actually. I TRIED so HARD not to...but the more I continued watching it...in EACH episode...she would always make me RAGE. And I always end up saying "FUCK YOU" in front of the screen than just enjoy the show for what it is. Personally, I don't really want to hate her, but her personality is just TOTALLY AWFUL. Therefore, I'll just laugh if something bad ever happens to her. Besides...I like Kyousuke too and he doesn't deserve any of the shit she does to him. Sure, you can be mean to your big brother, but she's just PUSHING it, EVEN if you say he didn't care until now... He's still your brother, okay? I can be mean to my little brother, but in the end, I still treat him as good as I could as a big sister. :'| I just can't sympathize with her, so I'm sorry. |
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| I love Tsundere's but in a romantic context only. Having one as a family member would do nothing more than serve to piss me off as Kirino did. I was hoping she would leave by the end but I was sorely disappointed as I wanted Kyousuke to get on with us life and maybe finally give into the peer pressure from Manami's family =P |
RiptosDec 21, 2010 10:20 AM
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SuperKyou said: THIS. >:DI love Tsundere's but in a romantic context only. Having one as a family member would do nothing more than serve to piss me off as Kirino did. I was hoping she would leave by the end but I was sorely disappointed as I wanted Kyousuke to get on with us life and maybe finally give into the peer pressure from Manami's family =P |
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| Neither hate nor like her. If you hate her you're just hating yourself because |
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| I hate her she is so bitchy and mean ALL the time, if she just toned it down and showed her cute side ever once in awhile I would like her more. |
| I think she deserved a award => "Annoying Bitch of the Year 2010" She got on number one in my top hatred list. i can't believe she beat even Sakura. I don't usually hate tsundere characters, and she's definitely not Tsundere but only tsun tsun bitchy character, which i hate the most. |
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sHsIkuA said: Neither hate nor like her. If you hate her you're just hating yourself because She doesn't act like me. I'm not a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing who thinks It's All About Me, prone to Kick the Dog, a Jerkass, and a Green Eyed Monster. |
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