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Poll: Legend of the Galactic Heroes Episode 58 Discussion

May 31, 2008 1:30 PM

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Even though she's been reinstated, Hilda is correct in thinking that she'll have garnered enemies. In particular, Oberstein looks to oppose her and any chances she may have of getting any closer to Reinhard.

I can see Reuental's best friend relationship with Mittermeyer starting to drift apart even more. It seems like each time they meet now for extended discussions he says at lest one thing that can be interpreted the wrong way.

By all indications so far it would seem the upper extent of the Earth cult's abilities is influencing political figures. De Villier's next target could prove troublesome. If he could get someone like Reuental to cooperate it could be very damaging.

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Nov 8, 2008 6:58 PM

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I always like watching Ruental speak. Especially his speech to that one lady about not wanting to overthrow the current Kaiser since it came to power with its own merit. Looks like that bishop in the Earth Church has a lot of dirty aims that he plans to achieve. Can't wait to see how things develop from here.
Feb 17, 2009 8:08 AM

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I wish I had an admiral buddy who would turn up at my place and drink fine wine while discussing politics.

Every episode with Reuenthal makes me like him even more, such a great intriguing character with a conflicted mind and heart. And irisis!

Also, mount Everest lost its top! Pretty interesting setting for a HQ, whether military or religious.
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Oct 6, 2009 9:54 PM

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Good episode, it was nice seeing the Earth Cult's head quarters and just seeing how bad the condition of the Earth truly was.

I agree with Beatnik, every time i see Reuenthal i like him a little but more, he is vastly becoming my favorite character in this show.
Nov 16, 2009 4:44 PM

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Beatnik said:

Also, mount Everest lost its top! Pretty interesting setting for a HQ, whether military or religious.

Neatly symbolic isn't it? Earth's authority, reaching to the stars, got chopped down to size.
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Dec 16, 2009 3:39 AM

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Reuenthal's rant was the highlight of the episode, otherwise it was pretty meh.
It really only solidifies a notion I had when I was watching earlier episodes that the storytelling format here reminds me of the far more recent Spice and Wolf series (both of them), where there would be a few "build up" episodes before a single "climax" episode. Only in LoGH, it's a lot of build up episodes and multiple climax episodes. Truly befitting a grand space opera.
Jan 11, 2010 1:48 PM

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Yes, Reuenthal certainly made the episode, admitting things that were eating away at him as well outright stating he would never want to take the throne for himself.

That Oberstein always seems to push the buttons nobody wants to press. He had best count blessings as Reinhard still has need of him.

It also seems conveniently dangerous that Julian and company happen to be in the same place where Reinhard plans to send his subjugation forces. I can't wait for what'll happen next.
Oct 12, 2010 12:21 PM

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is it just me or the anime's entertainment rate is up the roof over the last few episodes :),i hope they'll stick to this kind of action from now on,i like it :)

Reuenthal really knows how to make a but i strangely expected something like this from him,lone wolf :p

Julian finally got to earth,so let the action begin ^^


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Dec 10, 2010 10:24 AM

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It's like everyone in the show hates Oberstein lol.

I yawned when I saw Julian
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Mar 30, 2011 4:36 AM

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that scene with Reutal yelling at the naked girl made me really uncomfortable. I kept thinking he was about to rape her or something. Glad he didn't lol, since I like his character and don't want them to ruin it. It was cool seeing him flip out for once though.

And now they are on earth. Interesting...
Aug 18, 2011 11:00 PM
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Yeah I didn't know what he was going to do either. I'm glad they seemed to resolve his ambition to overthrow Reinhard. He may still try to capitalize on an opportunity should it show itself, but he's better where he's at. So now we see that the Grand Bishop is just a fake and not an ideologue. I just really wonder what they have planned.
Jan 16, 2012 5:03 PM

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I want an admiral buddy too.....
Or at the very least a womanizing redhaired pilot buddy.
May 9, 2012 7:49 PM

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In one scene, we see Mittermeyer leading the life of a "model" man with Evangeline, and in the next, we see...Reuenthal. The contrast between them is striking. On one hand, I feel as though their friendship is merely circumstantial, but on the other hand, sometimes the strongest bonds are formed between polar opposites.

On another note, I'm loving the 27-minute episode length. It's giving these episodes just the right amount of room to breathe, and -- in part -- alleviating some of the pacing issues that the first two seasons had.

DeadBonesBrook said:
That Oberstein always seems to push the buttons nobody wants to press. He had best count blessings as Reinhard still has need of him.

But that's exactly why Reinhard wants and needs him by his side in the first place. In his advisory capacity, Oberstein has made some very valuable comments to Reinhard when others would have bit their tongues. Dictators are born when the people around them stop saying what's really on their minds.
Jun 9, 2012 12:21 AM

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Reuental continues to be one of the most interesting characters in the series. Loved his line about Reinhard "earning his power". And, good on Reinhard on reinstating Hilda and her father.

Confucius said:
I yawned when I saw Julian

Don't really understand your dislike for Julian. Sure he isn't as interesting as Yang, Reinhard, Reuental, or some of the others but that was probably the point.
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Jun 14, 2012 12:09 AM

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Wow. Awesome seeing the depth of Reuental here when he was having dinner at Mittermeyer's. Also, the soundtrack for the specific scene where he was explaining how what he did was, "Driving [him] insane, and [he] knows it," was perfect. It was a bit hectic and sinister -- very effective in conveying Reuental's emotions for me.

Also, it's nice that LoGH is developing some of the other characters and we get to see into their more private lives. It makes it more realistic than just seeing them in action and on-duty all the time.
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Aug 2, 2013 10:25 PM

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That was one bitchy bitch, Reuenthal's taste in women is meh lol
Sep 20, 2013 9:58 PM

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So now Reuenthal is not planning to revolt against Reinhard? Still thought he was just biding his time. Plus if Reinhard continues, he is going to have an heir, which should be what Reuenthal hates most ... But whatever.

Anyways, I guess the Earth Cult really is just a bunch of people from Earth still sour (thousands of years later) about the fact that they aren't the center of it all anymore.
Jan 10, 2014 10:09 PM

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Reuental's a complex character and that makes him great (bonus points for heterochromia). It relieved me so much that he didn't have the desire to overthrow Reinhard. Is he veering towards democratic ideals?

Aug 7, 2014 9:28 AM

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So Reuenthal is going to lose his mind when Reinhard eventually marries Hilda *heheheeheh* and a line of succession is declared? Oh boy oh boy. I'm glad he has no motivation to topple Reinhard at the moment though...
Sep 29, 2014 7:21 AM

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Vexper said:
So Reuenthal is going to lose his mind when Reinhard eventually marries Hilda *heheheeheh* and a line of succession is declared? Oh boy oh boy. I'm glad he has no motivation to topple Reinhard at the moment though...
You've said exactly what I wanted to say. I'm glad that Reuenthal is loyal to Reinhard.

I'm actually hoping the invasion on Earth will succeed. The Earth Cult gets on my nerves not to mention they're trying to assassinate Reinhard. Of course I hope Julian will make it out, but thats a given seeing that he will most likely be the next "hero" after Yang.
Nov 9, 2014 9:33 PM

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I have a bad feeling the Earth cult has an ace up their sleeve to deal with the Empire.
Nov 26, 2014 7:12 AM
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I'm surprised that Reinhard wants to (or hasn't disapproved) pass down rule to an heir of his own, because it would obviously lead to government decay once more. And Ruental would flip :p

Though I suppose there is very little alternative and the history of humanity we've seen shown that humanity never stops fucking up.
Mar 4, 2015 7:18 PM

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I liked more of that backstory for the multi-color-eye guy. He's pretty cool. There was some more good historical development of the story in this episode when they were on Earth.
May 30, 2015 10:39 PM

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Reuental got some awesome character developments in this episode, glad he is loyal to Reinhard. Wouldn't want to see an awesome character fight against Reinhardo :P
Jun 13, 2015 8:52 PM

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I was a bit confused here. What was driving him insane? It seemed like he told the noble women something that was a painful topic for him. Especially Mittermeyer's reaction. It was a powerful shot though. I assumed he told her about his upbringing maybe but that didn't fit the context. The incident of the noble uprising doesn't really fit the intensity of his emotions. Can someone explain.
Jun 14, 2015 3:46 PM

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Impressive episode, really interesting and well I really like where this is going! Let's see what's next.
Jul 7, 2015 1:38 AM

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Ok episode. Poplan was as entertaining as ever. Liked Reuental's development in this episode as well.
Apr 12, 2016 9:53 AM

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Reuenthal sure is a very interesting character. I like him.
Jun 17, 2016 2:58 PM

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Reuenthal is truly a fascinating character to watch..You just never know what's the guy going to do next.
Nov 1, 2016 5:36 AM

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Demonstration that Reuental's character is complex.
Jan 10, 2017 4:50 AM

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Oskar's facial expression during his conversation with Mittermeyer was priceless.

It proves how his character is experiecing contradiction. From what i can interpret (perhaps i missed some detail during the show since it's too long), Reuental is a man with "rough" personality, he tends to enjoy (or it's just his nature) making people suffer, for from his point of view, life it self is already cruel (his past is an example), it's either eat or be eaten, so he'll probably seize all the opporunity to get what he wants (this is mostly akin to Reinhard's philosophy), or just to satisfy him (sadist maybe lol). Despite a part of him really doesn't want to have things this way, he just can't resist the temptation to do so, which is why he said "it's driving me insane".

He also displays an extreme hatred against "unfairness in power" (don't really the exact word, but to me it's like as long as you have connection with prestigious people, you don't have to do anything, just sit back and relax and power is in your hand). He believe that you have to take it with your own hands, go through hardship and you may be repaid, don't expect someone else will lend you a hand. But in the end he once again contradicts himself with Reinhard, admitting that he can't exceed the current Kaiser although he did have the intention of overthrowing Reinhard. This show is awesome, character development bit by bit but firm and distinctive, realistic. Can't wait for more.
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May 16, 2017 8:26 AM

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Oberstain always speaking "bad"!!! Well done Reinhard!!
This Revental has a hard heart, and this malicious woman in his life can change the naturality of this character, and she will transformed in a evil to Reinhard!!
Julian in the earth!!!
Is a pity that Everest has 1.000 metres less :(

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Apr 17, 2018 9:58 AM

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I love and hate Reuenthal at the same time.. (*☻-☻*)
Even though I know that this anime was created at a different time, it makes me uncomfortable that sometimes they talk about women in an unseemly way.
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May 10, 2018 2:49 PM
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This episode was all about Reuenthal. From the moment he walks into the screen you can't take your eyes off him. Probably the most fascinating character in the show. I again watched this with my girlfriend and said "This is Mittenmeyer's deputy Bayerlein, he doesn't trust Oscar" and again right in cue we see the distrust from Bayerlein.

So Oscar says he doesn't want to overthrow Reinhard. Yeah, he is still going to try. They've put aside so much time towards this story that something will happen. I think the new woman in his life might turn all Margaret of Anjou and inspire him to revolt. Either that or everyone unfairly suspecting him will do it. If Reinhard names a child as his successor that might be the spark that lights the fire in Reuenthal.

I love that the Bishop in Earth laughs at religion zealots. I got a big kick when he drank his secret supply of wine. Af6er failing to kill Reinhard it looks like they may move on to Yang now..

Poplan finally acknowledged that Borris is a Konev, but I was hoping for a heartfelt conversation between the two about Ivan.
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Oct 1, 2018 2:40 PM
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Ohh, so Reuental is not gonna try to betray Reinhard??? Uhmmm

I fear for Merkatz.
Nov 4, 2018 2:28 PM

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Of all the admirals that the Earth Cult could influence, who will they choose? Oberstein always seems like a prime candidate for traitor, but he's never gone for it. He calculates his power and position far too well to act prematurely. Also, I'd really like to see the Earth Cult get even with Truniht for yet another betrayal.
Mar 16, 2:55 PM

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The new uniforms for Mittermeyer, Reuenthal and Oberstein look gorgeous, I love the designs a lot.

Also, I finally understood the reason for sending Wahlen to Earth - in order to give him a chance to restore his good name after the defeat near Vermillion. Makes sense!

Moreover, I must admit that the more I watch LOGH, the more I fall in love with Reuenthal. His speech with the lover was very powerful and a bit encouraging. Seems like he's not going to try to top Reinhard, as he wanted to do before. However, I suspect that this will change soon. Reuenthal respects rulers that earn their power by themselves and despises gaining power by does Reinhard. But with all these talks about marriage from Mariendorf and Oberstein, who knows what will happen? Maybe we're witnessing a setup for a great conflict right now...
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