A Certain Magical Index (light novel)
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zimno said: Kamijyo-san has no mercy to also young children. btw,...not enough preaching components 4/5 No this was not working for me at all. Touma can go fuckin himself now. He is a piece of shit that I don't like due to him hitting a nun. My reasons are as simple but I won't talk about them. Seriously it was painful to watch that. Don't tell me no one cared for Agnese past with a view like in the pic.  but Magnus was fine and Agnese was good at one point with her laugh. At least there is satisfaction in seeing Touma get beaten up at first. Shirai_Kuroko said: As long as we get fan service of her and Misaka many will like it.次は黒子の出番ですの!! (tsugi ha kuroko no deban desuno!!) The next episode is kuroko's turn!! Ksa said: Agnese was good enough to have beaten Touma damn well. Laura is manipulative but that's the charm about her. Anieze is defeated so fast, I hoped for longewr battle... Laura is a bitch, but that's not suprising, she used Amakusa to have Kaori on her side. Ksa said: Next episode will start the 8th arc, about Kuroko and Awaki. Because part of this story has been on Railgun, maybe arc will be short. Remind me about that Railgun part because I can't remember that one. Ksa said: Well no surprise to the hate in your spoiler, it was like from the first season when she found about Misaka x Touma.Kuro4735 said: Yeah well this time God punished him for hitting a nun. :DOf course, as usual, Touma ends up in a hospital bed at the end of the episode. shuncchi said: Glad someone else did not enjoy that. I for one am a guy who is berserker sometimes in other words the steam needs to blow to someone, guess who? Touma!yeah kannzaki was cute. but touma punching a girl wasnt soo entertaining^^; DuroDeMatar said: That made me think of some horror movie. Now which one was that again?Don´t mess with the nuns! Aversa said: Well after what he did for her no surprise but in first season she wanted to kill him. Strange how Kanzaki in this episode made a 180 degree flip pretty much. Kanzaki was acting very shy towards Touma which suggests she has feelings for him, wonder what will happen between them. |
Yumekichi11Nov 6, 2010 2:18 AM
Yumekichi11 said: He did say that had she given him the chance he would have done it more peacefully. That said, Agnese didn't reveal her motivations at all, plus she acted completely opposite to what her initial words were. To Touma Agnese was just a hypocrite and a sadist. Kind of hard for him to feel pity for her (especially after seeing them try to kill everyone ruthlessly). The watcher is the one that's supposed to feel a little pity for her, but Touma has no reason to do so.No this was not working for me at all. Touma can go fuckin himself now. He is a piece of shit that I don't like due to him hitting a nun. My reasons are as simple but I won't talk about them. Seriously it was painful to watch that. Don't tell me no one cared for Agnese past with a view like in the pic. |
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ZgMfx2oAFrEeDoM said: You know I agree with you for that. Still Touma having a one night stand with her would sure make him into a man. ROFL!There seems to be a lot of discussion about Kanzaki and Touma. I honestly think the only reason people should consider a relation between the two is based on exactly what she said in the episode. (>.<) I doubt she has any real feelings for him. mystik said: I am sorry but I was rage - over 9000 power level at that part. There was nothing funny about it at all.lol @ that loli bitch getting punched in the face. Nachotee said: What would you expect from a atheist like Touma anyways. Question is would he punch a child due to it being a danger. Now that will be the test. Strangely Accelerator did save that small Misaka clone when he would not care at all for any of them. Touma sure didn't hesitate in punching that little girl. Onibokusu said: My feelings exactly for Kanzaki! Bravo to you! Exactly as I felt on that one.I hope they don't continue to ruin Kanzaki in this manner. Kanzaki should have been more formal in her likeness. More stoic. Not some "oh gee, he's a teenager. He probably wants to have sex with me as repayment for saving my church. Tee hee~" woman. helur said: My IMO thing for that is just to repay properly the beating Orsola got but it should have been her that did that to Agnese. That would satisfy me more. When loli fly.... She already lost so why did he bother KOing her? -.- belatkuro said: You too? Yeah me too about the two spoilers.I'm getting confused a bit. Yeah what's up with that? Leon-Gun said: Yumekichi11 said: He did say that had she given him the chance he would have done it more peacefully. That said, Agnese didn't reveal her motivations at all, plus she acted completely opposite to what her initial words were. To Touma Agnese was just a hypocrite and a sadist. Kind of hard for him to feel pity for her (especially after seeing them try to kill everyone ruthlessly). The watcher is the one that's supposed to feel a little pity for her, but Touma has no reason to do so.No this was not working for me at all. Touma can go fuckin himself now. He is a piece of shit that I don't like due to him hitting a nun. My reasons are as simple but I won't talk about them. Seriously it was painful to watch that. Don't tell me no one cared for Agnese past with a view like in the pic. Yeah my anger needs work but you got me on agreeing with you on this one friend. Still I wished they did not do it like that with so much details. The thing is that pic of her is what made me feel the bad for her. Like maybe she had no choice to act that way for her own survival you know based on what was related in that pic of her. |
Yumekichi11 said: True true. The worst part is that once it all failed they blamed it all on her so the Church cleaned it's hands off the whole affair and Agnese will now bear the full responsibility of attempting to murder a pious believer.Yeah my anger needs work but you got me on agreeing with you on this one friend. Still I wished they did not do it like that with so much details. The thing is that pic of her is what made me feel the bad for her. Like maybe she had no choice to act that way for her own survival you know based on what was related in that pic of her. To tell the truth, if they don't do anything more with Agnese then I'll be quite dissapointed. I mean, we even got Touma's line saying "enemies might not always be enemies". Although for all we know it was a throwback to the fact Styil and Kanzaki were introduced as enemies back in season 1. |
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| Now I download a proper ep with sub.The end of the Op song the word they translated is "no buts" (ﾟдﾟ)!! ....at least its more better than " no pants" "Ultimately,any Gospel outside of the roman Catholic Church can't be consider gospel at all" I think I can't follow the explanation of all this religion connection stuff =( I know what happen in the episode but i don't know why it happen |
MorningGloryNov 6, 2010 2:58 AM
| Styil was cute! And Laura is indeed a bitch. I'm really wondering about the next episode! |
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| Touma beating up girls. Is he supposed to be badass now? |
| lol touma hitting loli girl :p overall a good ep. |
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Yumekichi11 said: Ksa said: Next episode will start the 8th arc, about Kuroko and Awaki. Because part of this story has been on Railgun, maybe arc will be short. Remind me about that Railgun part because I can't remember that one. 8th arc of light novel includes many scenes from starting Railgun episodes, with Kuroko x Misaka lovey-dovey stuff, also 8th arc includes a lot of "Judgement", "Tokiwadai", "Onee-sama", have already seen in Railgun. e.g. An episode with ability testing, when Kuroko debating with Kongo and Misaka show an outstanding level 5 power with her railgun, also is in 8th arc. Yumekichi11 said: Well no surprise to the hate in your spoiler, it was like from the first season when she found about Misaka x Touma. Spoiler it's not for suprising, it hid info about 8th and 9th arc. |
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Leon-Gun said: Yumekichi11 said: True true. The worst part is that once it all failed they blamed it all on her so the Church cleaned it's hands off the whole affair and Agnese will now bear the full responsibility of attempting to murder a pious believer.Yeah my anger needs work but you got me on agreeing with you on this one friend. Still I wished they did not do it like that with so much details. The thing is that pic of her is what made me feel the bad for her. Like maybe she had no choice to act that way for her own survival you know based on what was related in that pic of her. Is that what Laura mentioned as well? Now that's dirty of the Church to use Agnese as a scapegoat. Then again it still was dirty for Touma to soil himself despite not having any choice into getting physical like that. Leon-Gun said: So it's still possible that Agnese may come back as someone who has learned her lesson unfortunately Touma's fist will be also a memory of hers.To tell the truth, if they don't do anything more with Agnese then I'll be quite disappointed. I mean, we even got Touma's line saying "enemies might not always be enemies". Although for all we know it was a throwback to the fact Styil and Kanzaki were introduced as enemies back in season 1. Traveller said: No one is badass when beating on a nun. Except maybe in hentai and even so I think I myself might be sick in that.Touma beating up girls. Is he supposed to be badass now? |
| I have a feeling that the next episode will be absolutely brilliant, since the lovely Kuroko will appear in it (^.^) And I must say I was positively surprised by Toumas determination and willingness to give it all and punch that silly girl in the face, sent her flying both times xD Guess she kinda regretted wearing those high heels ;P |
Onibokusu said: Yes, gather up the Pro-Kuroko Sect in one place. That way we of the True Way can wipe ya'll out much more efficiently!I call the Pro-Kuroko Sect to order! May we defeat all side characters that get in Her Perviness' way! |
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Wasabi said: So what? Now we move onto an arc that is completely unrelated to this one? This is just going to turn into season one again. Filled with a bunch of unnecessary arcs that has no correlation to each other. Like any other series? Lamest comment ever. |
| Kuroko, Biribiri, and Uiharu in next episode. Cool, next ep looks interesting. |
Oosran said: Oh come on, Kuroko is just too lesbo. I think Touma should do the threesome with Misaka and Kuroko. That way it will all be solved maybe he won't be using imagine breaker and then all will be peaceful, maybe not until Aleister is defeated? Right?Onibokusu said: Yes, gather up the Pro-Kuroko Sect in one place. That way we of the True Way can wipe ya'll out much more efficiently!I call the Pro-Kuroko Sect to order! May we defeat all side characters that get in Her Perviness' way! |
| Misaka is in the next episode, hopefully the Misaka fans can stop complaining about the magic arc now. That Itsuwa character looks pretty interesting after reading some descriptions, also with Agnese's past being showed briefly in this episode it seems like this isn't the last time she shows up in the series. But looks like I'll have to wait a while for the story to reach those arcs again. |
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| I think they handled the final battle poorly in that if you haven't read the novel then it doesn't even make sense why touma has to punch her after stiyl and the gang arrive. The pacing was also off making the battle shorter than I feel it should have been. I'm surpised at how many people are shocked at touma punching a young girl. If they have the power to kill you with a thought then it's a legitimate opponent. Need I remind you that misaka is only a middleschooler? Kuroko is even younger than misaka and if she wasn't morally opposed to such actions could kill from 80 meters away without you even seeing her. Agnieze was a sociopathic sadistic killer as well as the leader of the opposing forces. They wouldn't get very far if they started being choosy about their opponents. Heck, Stiyl is only fourteen. Might as well get pissed off at kamijo for punching him back when he found the guy hovering over what he believed to be index's corpse. (unless your beef is with punching women, then there are examples where he's done that already too). That leader of the british puritans, the puppetmaster behind index's situation as well having today shown herself to be ruthless in her methods of controlling her subordinates. How old did she look? I don't know how old she is but she sure as hell doesn't look like an adult. People are upset by kanzaki's behavior but she was put off balance in this episode and it should come as a no brainer at this point that every female in index is tsundere (minus kuroko) . Index, misaka, himegami, aura girl, now we've added kanzaki. Guess what. There will be more in the immediate future. If you don't like the tsun then you're probably going to have to develop some manner of coping mechanism. |
| Touma doesnt half like the hospital seeing as how he spends half his scenes there XD; Yay for Kuroko in the next ep. Missed the lil Yuri element to this =P |
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| What was exactly kanzaki apologizing for? for touma to have to carry index? |
Vanisher said: Touma got involved in a problem of her subordinates. Due to their incompetence he was burdened and hospitalized. Thus she feels an apology is in order.What was exactly kanzaki apologizing for? for touma to have to carry index? |
holy_ said: Since when Kanzaki like Touma? I was wondering the same... Misaka in next ep ^^ |
Yumekichi11 said: For christs sake. She's a soldier of war. A professional general and killer. You think she's never been struck before? You think you learn the art of war, especially at such a young age, without becoming acquainted with violence?[ Leon-Gun said: So it's still possible that Agnese may come back as someone who has learned her lesson unfortunately Touma's fist will be also a memory of hers.To tell the truth, if they don't do anything more with Agnese then I'll be quite disappointed. I mean, we even got Touma's line saying "enemies might not always be enemies". Although for all we know it was a throwback to the fact Styil and Kanzaki were introduced as enemies back in season 1. Aurao said: Seems an odd question to me. This is the first instance of her exhibiting signs so it would seem that "now" would be the correct answer.holy_ said: Since when Kanzaki like Touma? I was wondering the same... Misaka in next ep ^^ |
AlliedG said: Wasabi said: So what? Now we move onto an arc that is completely unrelated to this one? This is just going to turn into season one again. Filled with a bunch of unnecessary arcs that has no correlation to each other. Like any other series? Lamest comment ever. Actually no you. Index is even more disjointed than most shounen - there's not even a common antagonist for instance (that we've yet been introduced to). I don't necessarily care about the random arcs but I'd at least like them to have some impact on the series overall other than repeatedly introducing and kicking out characters from the show. *ahem* Lamest comment ever. |
| Each arc thus far has had repercussions on the overall plot. The main plot moves slowly so it is not always immediately evident. This is how the arcs help though. By providing fast paced instant gratification they can prevent this from being one of the slow-progressing shows that takes forever to get good. This is in fact an instance of ideal use for the story arc format. |
Gangler said: I think they handled the final battle poorly in that if you haven't read the novel then it doesn't even make sense why touma has to punch her after stiyl and the gang arrive. The pacing was also off making the battle shorter than I feel it should have been. Do elaborate, I am sure people would like to know what you know from LN at this point. Gangler said: Ah yes but you see the problem I had with this is that Touma should have the brains to handle this better. His fist seems to be only thing he can do? Well he better think of better ways because I certainly did not like him using violence on the nun. Why not just take away her staff? Anyways the only good I see of this is the pain of Orsola having been paid off by Touma's fist other than that my initial reaction comes as I wrote it. I'm surpised at how many people are shocked at touma punching a young girl. If they have the power to kill you with a thought then it's a legitimate opponent. Gangler said: Agnieze was a sociopathic sadistic killer as well as the leader of the opposing forces. They wouldn't get very far if they started being choosy about their opponents. Since when we know that she is exactly a sociopathic sadistic killer? The Church did not condition her to be that but I do believe her past affected her in regards to it. It's clear she looks to have been part of a plague or war time. Gangler said: Heck, Stiyl is only fourteen. He does not look like he is 14 at all. How come he is of that age? Gangler said: I don't think they are like that, for example the maid does not look like tsun nor does the loli teacher. People are upset by kanzaki's behavior but she was put off balance in this episode and it should come as a no brainer at this point that every female in index is tsundere (minus kuroko) . Gangler said: No I don't think she beens struck before if you remind yourself of her expression at the moment she got Touma's punch. I see her more of being shocked of it.Yumekichi11 said: For christs sake. She's a soldier of war. A professional general and killer. You think she's never been struck before? You think you learn the art of war, especially at such a young age, without becoming acquainted with violence[ Leon-Gun said: So it's still possible that Agnese may come back as someone who has learned her lesson unfortunately Touma's fist will be also a memory of hers.To tell the truth, if they don't do anything more with Agnese then I'll be quite disappointed. I mean, we even got Touma's line saying "enemies might not always be enemies". Although for all we know it was a throwback to the fact Styil and Kanzaki were introduced as enemies back in season 1. Detective said: In regards to that I think of Aleister being the one. The others are just proper to each arc.Index is even more disjointed than most shounen - there's not even a common antagonist for instance (that we've yet been introduced to). |
| I'll put the light novel stuff in spoilers just in case He didn't just take the staff because he was too busy getting his ass handed to him. I don't know if you noticed but he didn't exactly have the upper hand through most of that. A child who can kill without regret sounds like a sociopathic killer to me.She displayed her sadism in her pleasure as she mercilessly beat orsula. I don't know if you've noticed but lots of characters don't look their age. Komoe sensei is an adult, as is kamijo's mom. Kanzaki is 16. Stiyl is 14. Don't ask me why it is because I don't know. Kanzaki and stiyl are wizards so god knows what they've been into. Maybe komoe is a science experiment or something (completely unfounded notion). No real possible explanation for Mrs Kamijo though. True, there are females who appear on screen who haven't displayed tsun yet, but you have to admit it's a very large amount of the female cast. It appears to be the authors favored female archetype or something. It's a large enough percentage of the cast that it should not come as a surprise when you find out there's more tsun to be had. (also it might just be me, but komoe seems to be the mildest variety of tsun. It's only been evident a couple moments but when she asks if kamijo minds women who smoke I do wonder. The author has a bit of a tsun spectrum going.) She was shocked at being struck because she was confident that it could not happen. She had an unbeatable weapon while he only had his fist. He was never supposed to be able to close the distance between them in order to get a close range attack in. |
wasabi said: So what? Now we move onto an arc that is completely unrelated to this one? This is just going to turn into season one again. Filled with a bunch of unnecessary arcs that has no correlation to each other. Detective said: Actually no you. Index is even more disjointed than most shounen - there's not even a common antagonist for instance (that we've yet been introduced to). I don't necessarily care about the random arcs but I'd at least like them to have some impact on the series overall other than repeatedly introducing and kicking out characters from the show. *ahem* Lamest comment ever. slight spoilers Besides, Index focuses much more on the science/magic world as a whole rather than a specific or common goal unlike other shounen. |
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Gangler said: I'll put the light novel stuff in spoilers just in case But that punch was only possible because his imagine breaker broke that protective shield right? Their leader? You mean Saiji? The rest is a thank you for sharing it was interesting. Gangler said: He didn't just take the staff because he was too busy getting his ass handed to him. I don't know if you noticed but he didn't exactly have the upper hand through most of that. Yes I agree with you but if he touched the staff with his imagine breaker would it break? I wonder about that one. Gangler said: OMG, the sadness seems indeed that she has never shown that side of her to the Church possibly. I know see that a split personality looks to be in effect due to what you mentioned.A child who can kill without regret sounds like a sociopathic killer to me.She displayed her sadism in her pleasure as she mercilessly beat orsula. Gangler said: Yes I noticed but Komoe can be referred as to girls IRL having Turner Syndrome so I understand those things but Kanzaki being 16 seems pretty developed up to age 18 in apperance was my point and Magnus the same for his male body. Regardless I agree about your appearance are deceiving in anime.I don't know if you've noticed but lots of characters don't look their age. Komoe sensei is an adult, as is kamijo's mom. Kanzaki is 16. Stiyl is 14. Don't ask me why it is because I don't know. Kanzaki and stiyl are wizards so god knows what they've been into. Maybe komoe is a science experiment or something (completely unfounded notion). No real possible explanation for Mrs Kamijo though. Gangler said: True, there are females who appear on screen who haven't displayed tsun yet, but you have to admit it's a very large amount of the female cast. It appears to be the authors favored female archetype or something. It's a large enough percentage of the cast that it should not come as a surprise when you find out there's more tsun to be had. (also it might just be me, but komoe seems to be the mildest variety of tsun. It's only been evident a couple moments but when she asks if kamijo minds women who smoke I do wonder. The author has a bit of a tsun spectrum going.) I will agree with you on that and about Komoe's episode of when Touma when first time to her place to ask her for help. Gangler said: Well that goes back to his imagine breaker shattering that protection. Enjoyed arguing with you.She was shocked at being struck because she was confident that it could not happen. She had an unbeatable weapon while he only had his fist. He was never supposed to be able to close the distance between them in order to get a close range attack in. |
| Thats is what is appealing about Index and its world as a whole - the fact it isn't obvious who the atagonists and protagnists are - like in reality it isn't as clear as black and white - I mean heck Accelarator as a protaganist? - just leave if you want a simple anime about a bunch of good guys vs everyone else is evil mentality. Even Touma said in a different scenario he wouldn't have to punch the loli girl. As for Kanzaki until this episode, yes their was little indication she would like Touma but after saving Index from her memory erasure and the trauma of her nearly beating him to death from S1 I think in S2, after basically helping her old clan from being slaughtered by crazy religious nuns I think anyone would be grateful. |
| one more arc till Oriana Thompson. |
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| Kanzaki is 18 years old, not 16, and Touma's mother just looks a bit younger than her actual age is (pretty common in anime). |
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viral_hun said: Now I thank you for confirming this. I was sure her hips and breasts looked mature enough to be 18. Perhaps in season 1 she was younger? Not sure about that one.Kanzaki is 18 years old, not 16, AlliedG said: Exactly this! Exactly is all I will say!As for Kanzaki until this episode, yes their was little indication she would like Touma but after saving Index from her memory erasure and the trauma of her nearly beating him to death from S1 I think in S2, after basically helping her old clan from being slaughtered by crazy religious nuns I think anyone would be grateful. |
| @Yumekichi11 Sorry, the leader I was refering to is agnieze. The If you're refering to the thing he broke with his fist directly before he punched her that was just the magical force that had been attacking him all throughout. He basically dispelled one attack (if I recall in the novel it was more of a matter of him catching it with his hand than dodgeing and then smashing it but I'd have to reread to be sure). He shouldn't have been able to get to her because she had an unpredictable powerful weapon capable of unlimited kinds of long distance attacks while kamijo was unarmed and as far as she knew he was only trained in dispelling barriers (from when he first entered the church) The staff functioned based on the idol principle. It formed a connection between it and the target so that what happens to it happens to the target. I don't honestly know if the imagine breaker works on idols, and I hadn't thought to question it. As far as kamijo know's though it would have so that's actually a great point. I'd still bring it to him not having much time to think over the course of his beating though. At the end of the day you're right in a sense about his berserker tendencies, as his strategy is always pretty simplistic and consistent. I view it more as a matter of what he has at his disposal. He has a fist that dispells magic, so he keep punching with it until the danger is gone. He was never actually the brightest bulb, and he 's completely out of his element when dealing with magic. Honestly, I don't know much about Agneize's character beyond what we've seen. I think we've got more to learn about her. I didn't get the impression that we were dealing with a split personality, and I imagine the church is fine with her behavior considering the occupation they have assigned to her, but I really do suspect that her story will be a bit on the sad side. There just aren't that many situations where you can be a young soldier of any variety and have it be a happy journey that brought you there. If I'm gonna be completely honest I only found out about Stiyl's age after a reference to him being under legal smoking age caused me to look up the number. I've seen his age openly referenced on this forum before otherwise I would have left it out due to unsurety as to whether or not it has actually been revealed in the show yet. You really have been a pleasure to speak to. You get straight to the point and can phrase your thought concisely. I have trouble with that a lot of the time. Edit: Sounds like I was wrong about kanzaki's age. I was pretty sure about that. Sorry for the confusion. |
Gangler said: @Yumekichi11 Sorry, the leader I was refering to is agnieze. The If you're refering to the thing he broke with his fist directly before he punched her that was just the magical force that had been attacking him all throughout. He basically dispelled one attack (if I recall in the novel it was more of a matter of him catching it with his hand than dodging and then smashing it but I'd have to reread to be sure). That would be have been better to see him grab that power to dispel it. I did not think it was the magical force attacking him, I though it was a protection barrier. Gangler said: He shouldn't have been able to get to her because she had an unpredictable powerful weapon capable of unlimited kinds of long distance attacks while kamijo was unarmed and as far as she knew he was only trained in dispelling barriers (from when he first entered the church) Guess the pride shattering of her weapon indeed was the main factor to her bewilderment from the punch. Gangler said: The staff functioned based on the idol principle. It formed a connection between it and the target so that what happens to it happens to the target. I don't honestly know if the imagine breaker works on idols, and I hadn't thought to question it. As far as kamijo know's though it would have so that's actually a great point. Well that explains it far better than the subs. Now I am clear on that one. Do wonder if it's one target at a time or many. Regardless a powerful thing this weapon is. Gangler said: Honestly, I don't know much about Agneize's character beyond what we've seen. I think we've got more to learn about her. I didn't get the impression that we were dealing with a split personality, and I imagine the church is fine with her behavior considering the occupation they have assigned to her, but I really do suspect that her story will be a bit on the sad side. There just aren't that many situations where you can be a young soldier of any variety and have it be a happy journey that brought you there. Agreed it but her past was sad just with glimpse of her state as she recalls it. Clothes messy and torn, dirty skin and the place was a dump where she was hiding. Gangler said: If I'm gonna be completely honest I only found out about Stiyl's age after a reference to him being under legal smoking age caused me to look up the number. I've seen his age openly referenced on this forum before otherwise I would have left it out due to unsurety as to whether or not it has actually been revealed in the show yet. Ok, got that. Gangler said: You really have been a pleasure to speak to. You get straight to the point and can phrase your thought concisely. I have trouble with that a lot of the time. That's good to know. Gangler said: No problem.Edit: Sounds like I was wrong about kanzaki's age. I was pretty sure about that. Sorry for the confusion. |
| Alright, up until to episode 4, I am really confused. I finished episode 5 a while ago and nothing has been answered In episode 4, how did Touma and that nun escape from the roof? They were surrounded and they were really far away from their allies. Also, in episode 5, how did Touma escape from the church using everyone else as a "decoy". Last and not least, why did Kanzaki appear at the end? I really still don't understand why she is relevant in this arc. |
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| Kuroko and Kazari in the next ep? I approve! |
Confucius said: Alright, up until to episode 4, I am really confused. I finished episode 5 a while ago and nothing has been answered In episode 4, how did Touma and that nun escape from the roof? They were surrounded and they were really far away from their allies. Stiyl cast his fire demon spell and cleared them out. Confucius said: Also, in episode 5, how did Touma escape from the church using everyone else as a "decoy". They broke out and whilst they were deploying cards, etc, Touma tracked down loli nun. Confucius said: Last and not least, why did Kanzaki appear at the end? I really still don't understand why she is relevant in this arc. This entire arc focuses on her background - she was the priestess of the Amusaka, she is powerful, the Anglican church wants to control that power. She is thankful. Seriously did you watch subs? |
AlliedGNov 7, 2010 3:27 AM
AlliedG said: Apparently not. He obviously forgot Kanzaki is:Confucius said: Last and not least, why did Kanzaki appear at the end? I really still don't understand why she is relevant in this arc. This entire arc focuses on her background - she was the priestess of the Amusaka, she is powerful, the Anglican church wants to control that power. She is thankful. Seriously did you watch subs? A) A Saint with divine powers that overshadow most magicians. B) The former leader of the Amakusa. C) The actual reason why the Amakusa planned to save Orsola and join the Church of England. D) During the second Kanzaki/Tsuchimikado conversation it is revealed that Kanzaki was planning to fight the nuns herself. This, of course, didn't come to pass due to Touma's intervention. So as you can see, all of that mess was created by the Amakusa, so by extent it was Kanzaki's fault. She also almost broke the rules and she did kill several church knights who tried to reclaim the fake Book of Law from the Amakusa (see the end of episode 1). In the end, the archbishop used this whole incident to further chain down Kanzaki, so this whole arc is completely related to her. As for the people yearning a main bad guy. I thought it was fairly obvious already that Alistair, the founder of Academy City, was being slowly brought up as a bad guy. Even Railgun kept it going with the whole thing about how the leaders of Academy City have other more sinister intentions for it's students. Plus, the Magicians and churches all have ulterior motives for everything which are slowly being revealed. This story is actually chock full of gray and dark, you just don't get it shoved down your throat all the time. |
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| Nice episode, even though the fight against Agnese wasn't that impressive. 2nd par was weird, why did Kanzaki act so girly in front of Touma? I doubt it's just because of the onsen event in the 1st season... |
| Sorry to keep my fans waiting, I wasn't able to see the episode until today (Saturday) anyways, INDEX II Episode 5 SCOREBOARD: Agnese, nice power, but no chance of winning......................EVEN Touma punching Agnese TWICE......................................+4 Agnese mysterious past...............................................+1 Kanzaki blushing.........................................................+2 Touma siding with the Anglican church because of Index???......-2 Overall an enjoyable fight, finally this arc ends, and I finally along with other RAILGUN fans get to see BiriBiri and Kuroko next week....I CAN'T WAIT!!! 5/5 episode, my favorite so far. |
| This anime.... wins too much. only thought about this was that the episode felt like there were some jumps. and by that i mean that some cuts between scenes were too sudden. then again, that may be the style they want to achieve, which imo isn't that bad, leading to the watchers to wonder what happens in between and what not.. anyways, this arc was nice. it wasa good arc to re introduce the magic vs science world of toaru majutsu. the ending was amazing. i can never get enough of that hospital, or of kanzaki for that matter. tsuchimikado making an appearance to touma again was win, but kanzaki is love. i love how touma is still involved in everything, and yet knows about nothing except the factions of the churches. this anime is win, and i can tell the novels are even more amazing. |
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| Stiyl ftw : P next episode looks nice |
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Stiyl cast his fire demon spell and cleared them out. He didn't, he wasn't even near them. He casted the fire to save himself while Mugen tried to help Index and was halted by Styl They broke out and whilst they were deploying cards, etc, Touma tracked down lol i nun. Yes, but HOW? This entire arc focuses on her background - she was the priestess of the Amusaka, she is powerful, the Anglican church wants to control that power. She is thankful. Seriously did you watch subs? Question was vague, I meant like why did she appear at the end in the entire arc? I mean we saw her attacked a few black knights. |
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| Also , what happened to sister angelene and sister lucia? i thought they were important , and lucia didnt seems like the kind of people that would retreat cuz agnese got defeated this ep seems a bit rushed , but it was ok anyway , finally touma pounched that bitch |
| Accelerator where? Kanzaki obviously has more than gratuitous feelings for Touma. Of course, someone who has read ahead in the novels would know for certain. But no way, even if they are the most prideful of characters, does a woman blush several times and hides a note if she does not have some romantic sentiments towards you. Atleast in anime... |
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Vanisher said: That's also a good observation to wonder about. What happened to them really.Also , what happened to sister angelene and sister lucia? i thought they were important , and lucia didnt seems like the kind of people that would retreat cuz agnese got defeated Onibokusu said: But of course that's why we like her, for her perverted side. In Railgun her best made me more sympathetic towards her also.Yumekichi11 said: Oosran said: Oh come on, Kuroko is just too lesbo. I think Touma should do the threesome with Misaka and Kuroko. That way it will all be solved maybe he won't be using imagine breaker and then all will be peaceful, maybe not until Aleister is defeated? Right?Onibokusu said: Yes, gather up the Pro-Kuroko Sect in one place. That way we of the True Way can wipe ya'll out much more efficiently!I call the Pro-Kuroko Sect to order! May we defeat all side characters that get in Her Perviness' way! Her Perviness is most likely bisexual. She's just that perverted. Leon-Gun said: Exactly as I said before. Aleister is still the biggest bad ass just we don't know what he is capable of yet. Anyone has any LN experience towards that?As for the people yearning a main bad guy. I thought it was fairly obvious already that Alistair, the founder of Academy City, was being slowly brought up as a bad guy. Even Railgun kept it going with the whole thing about how the leaders of Academy City have other more sinister intentions for it's students. |
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