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Poll: Legend of the Galactic Heroes Episode 8 Discussion

Jul 9, 2011 6:55 AM

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Reinhard taking over the throne?

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Jul 29, 2011 11:30 PM
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Things are really getting more and more interesting. I liked the little snippet of history at the beginning too...the Free Planets really did a lot in their brief history to be a force in the war.
Aug 14, 2011 11:37 AM
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This episode has some of my favorite scenes. Oberstein and Kircheis beginning their light/shadow dynamic under Reinhard, as well as younger-Reinhard's amazing monologue.

It's interesting that the three Imperial Chiefs had their jobs endangered by a faraway battle in which they played no role, and their jobs saved by a political trade. At no point were their personal abilities taken into account. Like Reinhard said, they're all so concerned with appearances that they don't bother checking performance.
Apr 11, 2012 8:32 PM

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"The stars are no different than they were that night."

There's an episode's worth of meaning packed into that line alone. Power is beginning to shift in the Imperial Court and the strategic cornerstone of the war between the Empire and the Alliance just switched hands...and yet, the stars themselves are ever immutable. All of this is just "another page" in the history of the Galaxy.

It's interesting, then, that Reinhard claims that his ambition is to conquer the universe itself and not the people within it; he even criticized the Imperial nobility for "assuming it's a matter of course to rule over them" in Siegfried's flashback. Is it even possible for his conquest to be "the sea of stars" itself without compromising his own ideals? I've got a feeling that sometime over the next 102 episodes I'm going to be using the words "Reinhard" and "hypocrite" in the same sentence. Especially now that Oberstein is playing the shadow to Kircheis's light.

Incidentally, I wonder when Reuenthal and Mittermeyer are going to start playing a larger role again. I feel like they got more screentime in My Conquest Is the Sea of Stars than in everything since.
May 23, 2012 12:15 AM

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Well, Reuenthal and Mittermeyer get increasingly more important as the plot goes forward they earn their main character status.

Great episode, as I said before the scene between Reinhard and Oberstein as well as the final scene with Kaiser was fantastic. As for Hakuromatsu's quote up there, I can't believe that didn't connect with me like that. Yeah, that is indeed some meaningful dialogue. As expected from LoGH.
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Jul 2, 2012 3:48 PM

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the dialogs *_*
Dec 21, 2012 2:23 PM

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Mar 14, 2013 3:40 AM
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From this episode and on, I think LOGH will get a sure 10 from me. Why is that? Because it is definetely a show of a greater ambition, equal to the ambition of a man wanting to rule the whole universe. Certainly, just amazing.
Sep 10, 2013 11:22 PM

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The Kaiser is already aware of the potential mutiny, and furthermore accepts it? That was startling, given the fact that he sore of "bought" Reinhard's sister I figured he would be rather "evil" by normal standards (i.e. he could be smart, and noticed the uprising, but someone who would buy a girl probably would also be partial to the "pleasures" of being on top (booze, food, servants, women, etc.))
Oct 27, 2014 7:01 PM

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Seems pedo Kaiser isn't such a terrible person. Maybe growing old had something to do with it.
Feb 2, 2015 3:19 PM

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A slower paced episode but still quite interesting! Let's see what's next!
Feb 6, 2015 6:57 PM

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This episode was very good. The characters had a lot of character development. Lohengramm is acting even more like Griffith which is cool because Griffith is one of my favorite characters. I like that he still has his own characters still so he's not the same as Griffith. I like how he is gaining power in the empire. The backstory of the Empire and the Republic were expressed well without dragging on too long.
Apr 30, 2015 11:29 PM

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Great background. No we know this takes place approximately in the year 3500.
Also things are getting interesting, wonder how long this series will span.
May 8, 2015 1:05 PM

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Nice episode. Had some solid development for Reinhardt. Oberstein, and even the Kaiser.

May 23, 2015 5:23 AM

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I like how things are heading, Reinhard's getting more and more power to execute his rebellion plan. Oberstein will be a valuable member for Reinhard's objective, good episode.
Jun 16, 2015 3:29 AM

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Somewhat slower episode but I still enjoyed it. Some decent amount of world buidling. Cool to learn more about Reinhard's ambition. He is sort of reminded me a bit of Griffith towards the end.
Jun 29, 2015 6:14 PM

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Really Reinhard ain't very good at hiding his plans.
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Jul 30, 2015 12:30 AM

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Solid episode, not much happen but we got to learn more about Reinhard and his ambitions. So far I'm not really interested in Kircheis, since he seems like he's only Reinhard tail that will follow him wherever he goes. Not sure how I feel about that, but looking at it realistically not everyone can be a leader. I however do like that he shows disagreement towards reinhard decisions at times.
Aug 4, 2015 5:26 PM

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Aug 8, 2015 3:35 AM

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Let it be as magnificently as possible~
Jan 17, 2016 12:06 PM

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It's fascinating how Reinhard utilizes acts of selfless devotion to make good on his own ambitions. "I'll loan their positions out a little longer instead of an old folk's home" LOL @ the snappy remarks they make sometimes.

And with that, the Kaiser became an extremely fascinating character. I had a feeling there'd be more to him than Reinhard painted out, but the fact that he's aware of the schemes and even welcomes revolution should it bear fruit makes him a mind that can't be ignored.
Feb 23, 2016 5:07 PM
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Well, this show only keeps getting better, I have a feeling that I will really get sucked in soon.
Apr 23, 2016 2:09 PM

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Interesting to hear that Reinhard disagrees with the principle of hereditary aristocracy. What does he plan to do with the Empire after he's seized it if not pass it to an heir? Or does he just think he can raise one who deserves the power?

As for hypocrisy, given Reinhard's base motivation is bitterness over the "sale" of his sister it's amazing the way he underlines to Oberstein that he "purchased" and "procured" him to "be of use". Given that Oberstein hates people who look down on him this just might be idiotic arrogance on Reinhard's part.
Apr 23, 2016 6:41 PM

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Fronzel said:
Interesting to hear that Reinhard disagrees with the principle of hereditary aristocracy. What does he plan to do with the Empire after he's seized it if not pass it to an heir? Or does he just think he can raise one who deserves the power?

This issue would be raised up a few more times as the series progresses, so keep an eye for it.

Fronzel said:

As for hypocrisy, given Reinhard's base motivation is bitterness over the "sale" of his sister it's amazing the way he underlines to Oberstein that he "purchased" and "procured" him to "be of use". Given that Oberstein hates people who look down on him this just might be idiotic arrogance on Reinhard's part.

It is not that simple. When Reinhard said "purchased" he meant it in the figurative sense, unlike his father who literally received a bag of gold. In fact, for someone as prideful as Oberstein to appeal to Reinhard showed how critical his situation was at that time. If Reinhard didn't had Oberstein transferred to his admiralty, the latter would have been court-martialled and most likely executed for desertion. Under such circumstances, it is not unreasonable for Reinhard to demand that Oberstein "be of use" to him in exchange for him being rescued from certain death.
May 29, 2016 6:42 PM

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I swear Paul has nothing but trouble written all over him lol.
Jul 15, 2016 7:25 PM

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love this episode.

Trouble in paradise~!

I guess threatening to arrest Oberstein was just a way of testing him; he basically passed by saying "you need dodgy allies"
Nov 14, 2016 5:45 PM

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So Reinhard is basically the Lelouch of the Galactic Empire, huh?

Of course, if we view the historic order correctly, Lelouch is the Reinhard of Britannia, but I think you know what I mean.
Dec 10, 2016 2:44 PM

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Afthe the fall of Iserlohn, now Reinhard has another opportunity to ascend in her dream!!!

Yang try to retired, but finally don´t it, thanks!!!! Because if Yang retired, end of this series xD

Hello, my litte boy!

Feb 5, 2018 5:50 PM
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The dialogue is superb so far in this show. Reinhard is an absolute mad lad.
Apr 15, 2018 12:55 PM
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Wow. So that’s where the deep end was.

Am I the only one who thinks that “Kaiser” would be better translated as “Fuhrer”? Friedrich appears old, tired and fed up with the games of state that Reinhard has hired Oberstein to play. Fantastic episode, more please!
Apr 27, 2018 3:08 AM

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Good intro about the Galactic wars and the history. Oberstein is cool as always. Looks like Reinhard is playing a dual game, with Seigfried, he adopts a noble and gentle style, but with Oberstein, he uses the harsh and dirty ways.

Reinhard is a one dimensional character for all I care. He just wants to conquer the universe without purpose or meaning, for the only reason because he despises them. I also didn't get how Reinhard went from killing Oberstein to appointing him in a mere matter of minutes just because he was "outspoken". But reflecting on it now, I think that Reinhard noticed that Seigfried was too timid a person to carry out orders and may disagree with some of his actions, no matter how necessary they may be. To be frank, he may not have the guts to attain victory at the cost of his conscience. So, he took Oberstein, who looked to be a person who can assist him on this part of the action side.

In summary, for Reinhard, Seigfried is the angel part of his mind, while Oberstein is the devil part of his mind. Let's see if the whole thing becomes better.

BTW, Kaiser means emperor, used as a term in olden times. You will see a lot of historical references in this anime.

Yaoi subtext continues.
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Aug 28, 2018 11:43 PM

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Kind of amazing how Reinhard has no problem with making an ally out of Oberstein without expecting any friendship or loyalty. Sounds like he's buying into a risky advantage.
Nov 20, 2018 4:01 PM

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I like Oberstain. He looks like he has ulterior motives
Dec 11, 2018 8:06 PM

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The History lesson was great, the way everyone is aware of Reinhard's ambition not so much. On tge other hand, I am now quite interested in the current Kaiser, thanks to this.

4/5 Now, on-hold until I've read a few more manga tomes...

"pedo" ? Seriously...
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