| I thought Gundam 00 was broadcast during primetime saturday (aka a better timeslot than what CG is airing in)? Really, you don't need to care so much about the ratings. If you like the show, just watch it. He's probably worried about the show getting cancelled. |
Yamazaki said: Is naruto above 5% or under 0.9%, just wondering. ;P Naruto usually stays in the 6% range, slowly climbing from bottoming out in ratings near the end of the first series. For those worried about R2's ratings, season one had almost identical numbers and ended up having tremendous DVD and merchandise sales, which is what the producers are really worried about. |
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| Thats pretty interesting. Can someone give me the link to the site? I really like to know all the currently-airing-anime ratings. |
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| To start with you have Public restriction. Who didnt saw 1st Season will not watch R2. Then you have the internet which makes you less dependant of watching it on TV. |
| what? people actually expect a latenight anime to receive high ratings in primetime? That is just too confident.... Only reruns of family-targeted anime can earn very high ratings (for an anime). And Gundam 00 is a Gundam series after all. Its fame is all it takes for 5%. Code Geass has only started last year, despite it receive positive feedback and successful sales last year. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| i gotta say that code geass is a really fast paced anime and missing one episode would almost certainly mean that u missed a big plot changing factor or a really important event in the anime. and in the episode after they dont really recap. what I'm trying to say is a show like this is hard to follow on t.v. also u cant really compare it to gundam because gundam has been there for as long as anime has, therefor its a given that gundam will have a much bigger audience. in my personal opinion i think that Code Geass is one of the best anime shows out there today and if they were to run for as long as gundam has i'm sure they will surpass it. |
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| This makes me wonder what the first season ratings were like. We should also remember that if the series DVDs/merchandise sells well in Japan (and I suppose in the U.S. too), maybe it's not such bad news. |
tsukikage said: This makes me wonder what the first season ratings were like. We should also remember that if the series DVDs/merchandise sells well in Japan (and I suppose in the U.S. too), maybe it's not such bad news. They were almost the same. Main income was from DVD sales. The problem is that CG now is in primetime slot, so this can result in it being moved to another timeslot. I absolutely doubt that it would get canceled The ratings in japan and shows people like outside it are entirely different too. Shows like Shin-Chan and Keroro Gunsou are almost always at the top |
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| Wow im really shocked at the ratings Code Geass is such a good anime amazingly its ratings are so low ! |
| Actually, I'm not really all that surprised it has low ratings... I tried it out back when it first came out (first season), I couldn't stand it. I dropped it, and even went so far as to exclude it from my list, even in the dropped category. I know people have their own opinions, so if you like it watch it, if you don't, don't, whatever. But seriously, I think we can all agree that to put it up there in the top 3 amoungst Gurren Lagann, Rurouni Kenshin: Tsuiokuhen, and Death Note is just an insult to those shows. You should only be in the top 3 if you're one of the greatest holy mother of God nothing like this will ever come again Animes of all time. And Geass, is not. It may be a pretty darn good show in the opinions of some people, but it's definately not THAT good. |
brass2themax said: I know people have their own opinions, so if you like it watch it, if you don't, don't, whatever. But seriously, I think we can all agree that to put it up there in the top 3 amoungst Gurren Lagann, Rurouni Kenshin: Tsuiokuhen, and Death Note is just an insult to those shows. You should only be in the top 3 if you're one of the greatest holy mother of God nothing like this will ever come again Animes of all time. And Geass, is not. It may be a pretty darn good show in the opinions of some people, but it's definately not THAT good. I think that it was decided by the majority of ppl using MAL that code geass goes on the top 3, and they agree that it is a show like none other, and its not likely we'll see a show as great for a while. |
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| well everyone has their likes and dislikes and ppl like some things more than others its normal. unlike you i just started watching gundam 00 and its the first gundam series that i watch, so far gundam 00 wouldnt even be in my top 25 anime. but thats just me. |
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| I have to disagree with brass2themax, i think CG very much belongs up there, but then again i dont think Kenshin should be anywhere near there, i would think that its more of an insult to put kenshin where geass should be. |
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| Could we atleast all agree that Gurren Lagann belongs up there? |
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djinn_690 said: Could we atleast all agree that Gurren Lagann belongs up there? No, not at all. People need to stop thinking that everyone is going to agree that the shows they like will be liked by everyone. Personally, I would put Code Geass, Chobits, and Welcome to the NHK at the top 3. They are not there because not everyone shares my opinions. I think Code Geass is one of the best anime out there, and although it's often compared to Death Note and Gundam, I think both of those series are just overhyped and overrated (still good, mind you) and should be nowhere near Code Geass on a list. Ratings don't concern me. The show has a rabid and dedicated fanbase, they won't get rid of the show without giving it an ending. R2 will probably be the last season, and I'm glad about that. I wouldn't want Code Geass to go onto Bleach and Naruto type length, because after awhile it will lose it's luster. As for being put on another time slot. Well, that doesn't mean anything to me because I watch fansubs. |
| Once again, this thread is starting to turn ridiculous. Everyone one just have different opinions and favorites. Please understand that an excellent series for one may just be the worst thing ever for another.... How do you define "top 3" series? Is it the intricate and out-of-common plot? Is it the animation or the music? Is it the action or is it the "mood" this series give? Is it the intelligent humor? No series has ever achieved all of these at once, but some excels in one particular area more than others. Depending on your own tastes, you will find copletely different "top3" Code Geass has one quality: plot twists, cliffhangers and epic turnovers. It keep the audience wanting for more....However, by excelling in this, it lacks common sense and coherence. Tengen Toppa is a great action series with nostalgic oldschool characters, plot and storyline. But it definitely lack depth.... Death Note has great psychological plot, but the ending was doomed since the beginning because of the premise. Kenshin OVA, at the time of release was wonderfully and beautifully done. I don;'t think anyone should complain too much about that. Then again, what about Monster and Mushishi? These are not series for everyone but Monster has a wonderful thriller plot and Mushishi creates an incomparable mood. But once again, it is a misconception that mature series necessarily equal good series. What about classics like Macross? If you have a different distributiion of population in MAL users, I'm sure it would get a higher ranking. A 12-year old would probably rank Ghost in the Shell SAC as worst ever because it would not make any sense to him or her. An action lover may be bored to death watching Aria...Someone completely new to Japanese culture and society would not be able to grasp Zetsubou Sensei at all....Someone liking the fantasy romance in Clannad would maybe find NHK ni Youkoso's romance to be too realistic and down to earth.... The conclusion: -everything has flaws, nothing is perfect. "Top3" is merely an indication of how, statistically, MAL users considers anime. Top3 never tend to be the same from site to site. -everyone has different tastes, don't expect everyone to agree BTW, the original thread is on CGR2 television ratings in Japan. It escalated into the old discussion on whether people is overrating CGR2.... |
wakka9caJun 8, 2008 5:48 PM
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Personally I don't think that R2 deserves to be anywhere near the top, infact I can think of other anime that are currently airing that I'd rather see up there. That being said, no matter what show ends up being ranked at the top it's going to have people who dislike it, whether it's people bitching about TTGL and CG or something else, they are going to bitch. |
WAHa_06x36 said: A surprise: Episode 9 scored 3.3% ratings, the highest of any episode so far! Perhaps the Geass Matsuri, so hated by fans, really did manage to draw in some new viewers! thats good to hear its finally starting to get better ratings. I think that Code Geass deserves to be one of the best anime series of all time because: • it is filler-free • evey episode has amazing action scenes • every episode has a major event • just the right amount of character development (without too much flash backs) • amazing art and animation • never a dull moment in any episode • extremely enjoyable |
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| Interesting news there, Waha. But of course... ITT: We go way the f**k off-topic. lol I don't mind discussing whether Code Geass R2 is 'good' or not, but keep that in its own thread, please. This thread is intended to discuss the actual TV ratings in Japan, not the rating of the show on MAL. |
WAHa_06x36 said: The more cynical posters suggest that the Akiba stabbings, which happened pretty much as Geass was airing, made a lot of people tune in because the news are on right after Geass. We'll see next week how it turns out. lol i could see the producers spotting this and nodding to eachother and asking one another "do u know of any reliable hitman?" lol i hope thats not the case though |
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WAHa_06x36 said: A surprise: Episode 9 scored 3.3% ratings, the highest of any episode so far! Perhaps the Geass Matsuri, so hated by fans, really did manage to draw in some new viewers! I guess the two week break built some anticipation/curiosity. Although 3.3% still isn't exactly high. djinn_690 said: chase the cat anyone? I think that Code Geass deserves to be one of the best anime series of all time because: • it is filler-free • evey episode has amazing action scenes how does that make a series good?• every episode has a major event plotwists looool!• just the right amount of character development (without too much flash backs) correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Lelouch completely static for all of season one?• amazing art and animation I'm not a fan of noodle-people, and theres tons of shows with great animation• never a dull moment in any episode I've found myself zoning out a few times.• extremely enjoyable well I can agree on that one (most of time) |
| ^ the "i think" there that i started off my statement with refers to the fact that that is just my personal opinion on the matter. and ok i'm sorry that so far out of the 39 episodes from both season there has only been one filler episode.which was still an enjoyable episode btw. I'm a big fan of good action so yes to me good action in every episode = good series plot twists! u can hardly call it that, its still the same plot and after every action zero takes no matter how much of a plot twist it may seem end up benefiting his greater goal, getting more power to execute revenge for his mother and create a peaceful world for his sister. and u can hardly call a new obstacle in his way a plot twist, of course when some one is trying to take down a country f super power is gonna be faced with things that will hinder his plans forcing him to re evaluate his opponent and devise a new plan of action. Edit: oops i meant 34 episodes. thnx for pointing that out Astaroth. |
djinn_690Jun 10, 2008 12:11 AM
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djinn_690 said: If you had just stated 'I think CG R2 is one of the best anime' I wouldn't have bothered replying since thats just an opinion, but you gave reasons, which I CAN refute (some them anyway).^ the "i think" there that i started off my statement with refers to the fact that that is just my personal opinion on the matter. and ok i'm sorry that so far out of the 39 episodes from both season there has only been one filler episode.which was still an enjoyable episode btw. 39? 25 + 9 = 34. There may have also been more in season one, I just don't remember clearly. But for R2, episode 5 for the most part was filler, there was some plot at the start and end, but most of it contributed nothing. As for the chase the cat being enjoyable, I found it a waste of time.I'm a big fan of good action so yes to me good action in every episode = good series fair enoughplot twists! u can hardly call it that, its still the same plot and after every action zero takes no matter how much of a plot twist it may seem end up benefiting his greater goal, getting more power to execute revenge for his mother and create a peaceful world for his sister. and u can hardly call a new obstacle in his way a plot twist, of course when some one is trying to take down a country f super power is gonna be faced with things that will hinder his plans forcing him to re evaluate his opponent and devise a new plan of action. *scratches head* I don't even know how you ended up going into that rant. Anyway when I say plot twists, I mean stuff like (spoilers for episodes 1-9 of R2): |
RolexJun 9, 2008 6:33 PM
| Why are two people that both enjoy the show arguing about how good it is? One person thinks it is the best show ever, one thinks that it is just okay. Shouldn't you both just agree that it is a good show and move on? wakka9ca said: Once again, this thread is starting to turn ridiculous. Everyone one just have different opinions and favorites. Please understand that an excellent series for one may just be the worst thing ever for another.... How do you define "top 3" series? Is it the intricate and out-of-common plot? Is it the animation or the music? Is it the action or is it the "mood" this series give? Is it the intelligent humor? No series has ever achieved all of these at once, but some excels in one particular area more than others. Depending on your own tastes, you will find copletely different "top3" Code Geass has one quality: plot twists, cliffhangers and epic turnovers. It keep the audience wanting for more....However, by excelling in this, it lacks common sense and coherence. I agree that while one person may love a show, another will hate it. That is why we have tons of different shows. If we all agreed that the same show was good then we would be watching the same show rehashed over and over again. As for the "top 3" discussion, I just think that the show that you enjoy the most would be put on your top. As such, my personal top is always changing to match my mood. I just put Code Geass, Welcome to the NHK, and Chobits as mine because those were the 3 that I enjoyed the most while watching them. It may have nothing to do with what is inside the show, and if someone disagrees with you and think the show is either bad or just mediocre, then there is no point to argue about. Just watch the show and enjoy it because of why you enjoy it. As for Code Geass only having plot twists, then I have to disagree. I enjoy everything about Code Geass. I'm not even a fan of action anime, but I enjoy the action scenes in Code Geass. Even the filler episodes are enjoyable (there are more than one, by the way). |
| While Code Geass, the first season at least, is currently in my "favorites" list, I recognize it has many flaws, several of which have carried on to R2. Right now, I think this sequel isn't going to end up on the list anytime soon, so that should tell you enough. The thing is, my list is based on personal enjoyment value, first and foremost, ranking series in no particular order, and is limited by the constraints of MAL. If I were to make a list of the "best" shows, in terms of technical or artistic achievement, it would look completely different and Code Geass, either season, wouldn't be in it. "Best" is objective, "favorite" is subjective. WAHa_06x36 said: And this week, the ratings jumped back up to 3.2%. They're still lower than those of Ayakashi Ayashi, which ran in a similar afternoon timeslot and got cancelled due to low ratings, though. Cancellation is unlikely when you consider the existence of different factors. There is no way Ayakashi Ayashi, was going to sell, sold or will ever sell as many DVDs as Code Geass. I cannot rate the other show, as I have not watched it yet, but Code Geass was among the top anime DVD sales for 2007. I could only see this possibility if R2 had horrible DVD sales, but it's too soon to find that out What's more, directly comparing Saturday at 6, an established anime slot with many successful shows behind it, with Sunday at 5, a completely new slot which R2 is trying to test out, looks structurally flawed from the get go. It assumes that viewing habits are equal all across the weekend, which is questionable. Koshimizu @ Animesuki has pointed out some of the specific reasons for this. http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1606719&postcount=1115 Finally, Code Geass isn't the best show to test out a new time slot. It's both darker and wackier than what mainstream viewers expect, plus it was originally a late night show in the first place. I suppose its popularity is mostly restricted to the "otaku" crowd, and even then... WAHa_06x36 said: 2.9% for episode 12. Ratings are in so soon after the broadcast? |
GolbeztheGreatJun 30, 2008 12:46 PM
WAHa_06x36 said: And the rollercoaster ride continues: Back down to 2.2% this week. which imho proves that these ratings mean nothing :) |
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| TOP10 Ranking of the Recorded TV programs for Jul 14 - 21. 1. CHANGE (drama) 2. ROOKIES (drama) 3. Code Blue (drama) 4. Maou (drama) 5. Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo (anime) 6. Tomorrow (drama) 7. My Neighbor Totoro (anime) 8. Macross F (anime) 9. Code Geass R2 10. Yasuko to Kenji (drama) Quite a few people watch recorded CG R2 after it's aired. These viewers are not taken into account. Source: RBB navi |
| I'm curious if there is enough interest for a 3rd season? Is there even any talk of this at all or are we finished with 2 seasons? |
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