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Jul 10, 2009 2:31 PM

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Come on, close this thread already.
 
Jul 11, 2009 2:39 PM

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Sonzai said:
Come on, close this thread already.


Uh why should it be?
 
Jul 12, 2009 6:50 AM

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Because most people here have no idea what is emo/screamo, and because I'm an idiot who's got nothing better to do than whine about something like that.
 
Jul 12, 2009 10:34 AM

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Sonzai said:
Come on, close this thread already.

Agreed -__-
 
Jul 16, 2009 11:54 AM

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Sonzai said:
Because most people here have no idea what is emo/screamo, and because I'm an idiot who's got nothing better to do than whine about something like that.


Yea thats true.
Most of my stuff is deathcore and death metal. Should change title or start a metal thread.
 
Jul 30, 2009 3:08 AM
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Bring me the Horizon
Devil wears parada
Dr.acula
 
Jul 30, 2009 1:14 PM

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im just going to recommend bands i like seeing as emo/screamo is hard to define..

rise against
a day to remember
bullet for my valentine (old stuff is better than new tbh)
all that remains
 
Jul 31, 2009 10:30 AM

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Already mentioned but...

Silverstein, been listening to them for a couple of years now and they just keep getting better <3
 
Aug 1, 2009 12:51 PM

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ive been feeling really punkish lately;
the offspring & sum 41

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Aug 21, 2009 8:52 AM

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What kind of people call themselves music addicts when they can't even tag their music properly? ._.

Calling bands emo/screamo as if those were music genres can be very confusing for people who don't have a clear idea about this kind of music. The proper way to call them would be "Post-Hardcore" and "Metalcore".

Some examples of Post-Hardcore would be:
AFI.
Eyes Set To Kill.
He Is Legend (latest 2009 album excluded).
In Fear And Faith.
Lostfoundbroken.
Scary Kids Scaring Kids.
Senses Fail.
Silverstein.
The Used.
With Broken Wings.

Could be considered Post-Hardcore:
30 Seconds To Mars.
Muse.
Story of the Year.
Three Days Grace.
Trapt.
Trust Company.

I don't really agree with these, though. I'd call them alternative rock or hard rock.

Metalcore is a genre that refers to a band playing a more "hardcore" style of Thrash Metal, Melodic Death Metal and Post-Hardcore, along with others. There are many many bands that fall into the Metalcore category that don't have to do with this kind of genre, so in this particular case, we are referring to the kind that comes from adding a more "hardcore" style to the "Post-Hardcore" genre.

Examples of Metalcore deriving from Post-Hardcore would be:
Alexisonfire.
Bullet For My Valentine.
Inhale/Exhale.
The Fall Of Troy (although most of their songs fall into the "Mathcore" category because of how technical their music is. As far as I know, Mathcore is a subgenre of Metalcore, so it'd be alright to add it as Metalcore).
Norma Jean (same as the above. Not the best example, though, due to the amount of distortion they use).
Bring Me The Horizon (normally, I would call this deathcore, but it has enough elements of Post-Hardcore to consider it the "heaviest" version of Post-Hardcore I've eventually liked up to date).

NOT Post-Hardcore or Metalcore:
Rise Against, Relient K, The Offspring, Sum41. Anything sounding like these is Punk or Punk Rock, although many true punk fans might puke at this classification.
A Day To Remember, All That Remains, etc. These are other different types of metalcore which derive from different kinds of metal. Nothing to do with the Post-Hardcore genre.
Atreyu, Adema, Disturbed, Drowning Pool, Slipknot, etc. These are Nu Metal (with a few rap/hip-hop influences) or Aggro Metal (more on the metal side).
In Flames. They're a pretty good example for their genre, although not the greatest IMO, anything sounding like this is Melodic Death Metal.
As Blood Runs Black.... what the fuck is stuff like this doing in this post? That's straight Deathcore.
Linkin Park, Papa Roach. Those are alternative rock, may be even considered Nu Metal by some people.

I may not be the greatest Post-Hardcore fan, and I agree that some of the bands in that genre sound like crap... but seeing people disregarding this type of music completely just because the mainstream calls them emo/screamo is, in the least, funny.

I hope the examples are clear enough and some people who read this finally get a slight idea of what true Post-Hardcore, so-called emo/screamo by people who don't know the genre, is.
 
Aug 21, 2009 10:54 AM

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What kind of people call themselves music addicts when they can't even tag their music properly? ._.

Calling bands emo/screamo as if those were music genres can be very confusing for people who don't have a clear idea about this kind of music. The proper way to call them would be "Post-Hardcore" and "Metalcore".

Some examples of Post-Hardcore would be:
AFI.
Eyes Set To Kill.
He Is Legend (latest 2009 album excluded).
In Fear And Faith.
Lostfoundbroken.
Scary Kids Scaring Kids.
Senses Fail.
Silverstein.
The Used.
With Broken Wings.

Could be considered Post-Hardcore:
30 Seconds To Mars.
Muse.
Story of the Year.
Three Days Grace.
Trapt.
Trust Company.

I don't really agree with these, though. I'd call them alternative rock or hard rock.

Metalcore is a genre that refers to a band playing a more "hardcore" style of Thrash Metal, Melodic Death Metal and Post-Hardcore, along with others. There are many many bands that fall into the Metalcore category that don't have to do with this kind of genre, so in this particular case, we are referring to the kind that comes from adding a more "hardcore" style to the "Post-Hardcore" genre.

Examples of Metalcore deriving from Post-Hardcore would be:
Alexisonfire.
Bullet For My Valentine.
Inhale/Exhale.
The Fall Of Troy (although most of their songs fall into the "Mathcore" category because of how technical their music is. As far as I know, Mathcore is a subgenre of Metalcore, so it'd be alright to add it as Metalcore).
Norma Jean (same as the above. Not the best example, though, due to the amount of distortion they use).
Bring Me The Horizon (normally, I would call this deathcore, but it has enough elements of Post-Hardcore to consider it the "heaviest" version of Post-Hardcore I've eventually liked up to date).

NOT Post-Hardcore or Metalcore:
Rise Against, Relient K, The Offspring, Sum41. Anything sounding like these is Punk or Punk Rock, although many true punk fans might puke at this classification.
A Day To Remember, All That Remains, etc. These are other different types of metalcore which derive from different kinds of metal. Nothing to do with the Post-Hardcore genre.
Atreyu, Adema, Disturbed, Drowning Pool, Slipknot, etc. These are Nu Metal (with a few rap/hip-hop influences) or Aggro Metal (more on the metal side).
In Flames. They're a pretty good example for their genre, although not the greatest IMO, anything sounding like this is Melodic Death Metal.
As Blood Runs Black.... what the fuck is stuff like this doing in this post? That's straight Deathcore.
Linkin Park, Papa Roach. Those are alternative rock, may be even considered Nu Metal by some people.

I may not be the greatest Post-Hardcore fan, and I agree that some of the bands in that genre sound like crap... but seeing people disregarding this type of music completely just because the mainstream calls them emo/screamo is, in the least, funny.

I hope the examples are clear enough and some people who read this finally get a slight idea of what true Post-Hardcore, so-called emo/screamo by people who don't know the genre, is.


i don't care about.. genre's i listen to what i think sounds good be it any genre ^^

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Aug 21, 2009 11:34 AM

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ATREYU!!!! The best screamo band ever. For me
 
Aug 21, 2009 4:24 PM

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Neverender said:
This thread is horrible.
i agree. the word emo should be forbidden.....

envy
ctts
anomie
funeral diner
comadre
kaospilot
i would set myself on fire for you
loma prieta
orchid
pg.99
saetia
sinaloa
jawbreaker
suis la lune
...


omg thank you, i see some people do know. about screamo, dont forget the likes of daitro, raein, gantz, yaphett koto, toru okada, the spirit of versailles. thats some of them. heaven in her arms (japan) is good too. about emo, well post emo: at the drive-in, sunny day real state, the promise ring, ravi. thank god some one said rites of spring and fugazi =D

funeral diner is fucking win
 
Aug 21, 2009 4:50 PM

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Vhaltz said:

I hope the examples are clear enough and some people who read this finally get a slight idea of what true Post-Hardcore, so-called emo/screamo by people who don't know the genre, is.

uh every band you named is pretty much on the same level as all of those shitty bands that get labeled as emo or screamo by people who don't know anything. It's all bullshit. In fact, the people who listen to "fake" emo & screamo probably listen to the bands you listed as well. Post-hardcore? That shit is a joke, though I think the same thing that happened to screamo/emo happened to post-hardcore. You've got all of these shitty scenester bands being falsely labeled, and because of that, the real post-hardcore bands - with which the term actually makes sense - are disregarded and/or overlooked (EX: Unwound, Drive Like Jehu).

also lol @ calling The Fall of Troy metalcore and someone else calling At the Drive-in "post-emo."
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Aug 21, 2009 5:25 PM

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hum... go listen to acrobatic tenement
 
Aug 21, 2009 5:30 PM

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I'd rather not go back to that, thanks.

How can you even compare The Promise Ring to At the Drive-in by putting them in the same non-existent genre?
 
Aug 21, 2009 6:01 PM

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since we got in this game of categorizing music, why dont you tell me what the promise ring and at the drive-in are?

im going to answer your question as eloquently as i can. yes, the promise ring and at the drive-in don't sound anything like each other. to me, neither of them sound like the early hardcore, or the emo of the late 80's and early 90's, or the post-hardcore that followed. this is the reason why i put them in a "non-existing genre."

call them what you may, there is always going to be music that gets stuck in between genres. people will come up with ways to categorize this music.
 
Aug 21, 2009 6:18 PM

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If you really think At the Drive-in fit into the category of "post-emo" better than post-hardcore, there's no point in me even participating in such a ridiculous "game." I suppose categorizing bands such as The Promise Ring and Sunny Day Real Estate like that wouldn't really be completely inaccurate, but At the Drive-in? lol
 
Aug 21, 2009 6:22 PM

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dude, listen to their early stuff. it's all post-hardcore from in casino out until they break up.
 
Aug 21, 2009 7:09 PM

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This is stupid. Post-hardcore (and by post-hardcore, I mean the post-hardcore that originated in the 80s - not this scenester bullshit) and emo (emotional hardcore) are essentially the same thing. Acrobatic Tenement is post-hardcore. Everything they did is post-hardcore. No radical change in their sound ever occurs and nothing they ever did is different enough to warrant the creation of a new genre - especially one that would also contain second-wave emo bands such as The Promise Ring and Sunny Day Real Estate.

If by post-emo, you mean they came after the original emotional hardcore bands and were also influenced by them in one way or another, then yes, you're absolutely right. Doesn't change the fact that saying it like that is unnecessary and just makes things confusing when you lump together bands that do not play the same kind of music.
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Aug 22, 2009 12:16 PM

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actually, youre right. it does make it unnecessarily confusing. i always thought of post-emo being the same as second-wave emo. post-emo is shorter to write. i never thought about post-hardcore and emo being basically the same thing but that's also correct.

i still disagree with at the drive-in being entirely post-hardcore, but seriously, who cares anymore? it's all subjective.

i'll have to give you something, though. you do know what you're talking about.
 
Aug 22, 2009 12:40 PM

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Sorry, I'm just being a dick about it. I can't help myself in threads like this, I'm afraid.
 
Aug 22, 2009 1:11 PM

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haha it's fine. threads like these make everyone with an opinion a little self-righteous. i also happen to be guilty of it.
 
Sep 13, 2009 11:44 AM

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/ removes from watch list

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Sep 13, 2009 12:30 PM

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lol, good.
 
Sep 14, 2009 10:05 PM

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I hear Cap'n Jazz were good.
 
Oct 20, 2009 6:56 PM

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Escape The Fate

Exilia (maybe? not too sure >.>)


 
Oct 20, 2009 7:25 PM

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Escape The Fate

Exilia (maybe? not too sure >.>)

stop posting
 
Oct 20, 2009 7:53 PM

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Hannah Montana.
(づ°‿°.)づ
 
Oct 24, 2009 8:30 PM

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Hannah Montana.
brutal death metal
 
Nov 1, 2009 4:04 AM

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eyes set to kill and matchbook romance.^^
 
Nov 1, 2009 10:30 PM

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Well if you want some emo/screamo bands there are taking back sunday, brand new, the used, hawthorne hieghts,silverstein,aiden,a day to remember,circa survive, atreyu, as i lay dying,armor for sleep,the cab,bayside,the ataris,alkaline trio,amber pacific,forever the sickest kids,madina lake,funeral for a friend,comeback kid,match book romance,senses fail, motion city soundtrack,story of the year,saves the day,thursday and thrice. hope this was helpful
 
Nov 4, 2009 3:32 PM

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I Set My Friends On Fire and Bring Me The Horizon and Attack! Attack!
 
Feb 19, 2010 9:20 PM

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I don't listen any of emo, but metalcore bands like Walls of Jericho, Bring me the Horizon I very like
Dislike Bullet For My Valentine and all staff like that.
LP is not emo TT
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Feb 20, 2010 3:11 AM

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These arent all emo/screamo....

1. Paramore
2. Linkin Park
3. Muse
4. Hawthorne Heights
5. Evanesence
 
Feb 20, 2010 12:14 PM

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Taking Back Sunday.

 
Jun 1, 2010 10:09 AM

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TRIBAL CHAIR. Everyone should definitely check them out! They did the opening for Souten Kouro. I love them even though right now, I prefer entirely different kinds of music.

Here are some that haven't been mentioned.
Terminal
Finch
As Cities Burn
Number One Gun
Name Taken
The Beautiful Mistake
Boys Night Out
The Early November
Mayday Parade
Say Anything
Qualifier: I'm not claiming these bands are any certain genre. When asked, I usually say, 'in high school I liked music that had screaming…'
 
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Don't know if their emo but their definitely screamo
BLACK VEIL BRIDES!!
 
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