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Aug 17, 2010 3:01 AM
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Aug 17, 2010 4:17 AM
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whole episode about Halibel recall her past while dying...

in this episode, you will die horribly... *laughs just as shion*
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Aug 17, 2010 4:21 AM
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it was ok... but next episode should be awesome ^^
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Aug 17, 2010 5:12 AM
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meh meh, ok episode.

but putting their past after they die its kinda useless..

imagine if we'd know about them BEFORE this war.. their death would be more important/emotional etc..

now we just dont care about them -_-

oh and next episode teh 'sacrifice' :D
Aug 17, 2010 5:16 AM
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Halibel's past in this episode ... those three are funny when they are quareling ^^
Aug 17, 2010 5:18 AM
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Aug 17, 2010 7:03 AM
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Not bad, but I think I liked that hammerhead guy better than some of the espada.
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Aug 17, 2010 7:06 AM
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Better than most of the episodes. Hope she survived though.
Aug 17, 2010 7:14 AM
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Huh, Grimmjow was there.


Aug 17, 2010 7:35 AM
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It was okey but I hope the next episode will be better.
Aug 17, 2010 7:36 AM

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Poor Halibel :/
Aug 17, 2010 8:34 AM

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whole episode about Halibel recall her past while dying...

Yeah :(

But at the end with Yoruichi was funny like hell :D
Aug 17, 2010 8:48 AM
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Well at least I felt something for Hallibel.
I felt shit for Stark.
So now lets see,the Shinigami's are good,the Hollows are not that bad.
The only bad guy is Aizen.

Now I suppose the shinigami's and hollows will band together to fight against Aizen.
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Aug 17, 2010 9:25 AM

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borrrring ......
Aug 17, 2010 10:06 AM

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Aizen, you BASTARD!!!
Aug 17, 2010 10:29 AM

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R.I.P Halibel :(
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Aug 17, 2010 10:39 AM

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hmpf, filler episode that made little to no sense. Well at least it was half decent, could've been worse.
Aug 17, 2010 10:44 AM

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meh, it was alright. Now they fight Wonderweiss maybe?
Aug 17, 2010 10:44 AM

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mmh not bad but.. a little bored
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Intresting to see that HM was acually a Male Dominated world. And that Hollows have actual genders.
And judging from this picture:




Theres possibility of mating prolly, at some higher stages of Hollow evolution.
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Well at least she a backstory.
Aug 17, 2010 12:53 PM
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More sympathy for the bad guys...wonderful. Please let this be the last flashback. I can't remember if it is.
Aug 17, 2010 1:49 PM

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what a lame episode. i hated it
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uh oh.... time for the real fight to begin!!!
Aug 17, 2010 2:46 PM

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Starbrow said:
Intresting to see that HM was acually a Male Dominated world. And that Hollows have actual genders.
And judging from this picture:




Theres possibility of mating prolly, at some higher stages of Hollow evolution.

but it was filler episode, so don't jump to conclusions.
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zero_suls said:
Starbrow said:
Intresting to see that HM was acually a Male Dominated world. And that Hollows have actual genders.
And judging from this picture:




Theres possibility of mating prolly, at some higher stages of Hollow evolution.

but it was filler episode, so don't jump to conclusions.

It was a flashback hence not a filler.
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Not bad.. Slightly boring.. but pretty interesting :)
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Starbrow said:
zero_suls said:
Starbrow said:
Intresting to see that HM was acually a Male Dominated world. And that Hollows have actual genders.
And judging from this picture:




Theres possibility of mating prolly, at some higher stages of Hollow evolution.

but it was filler episode, so don't jump to conclusions.

It was a flashback hence not a filler.

but this scene wasn't in manga, hence filler
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I personally loved this episode. Best episode for a long time (nice relaxation from the shit episodes we've been given lately). I can see where the mistake was though. Putting actual character development, story, and genuine emotion into a series most people only watch for the fights was the mistake.

It was a flashback hence not a filler.

lmao, what kind of effing logic is that!? X]

Aug 17, 2010 5:22 PM
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Lucjan said:
I personally loved this episode. Best episode for a long time (nice relaxation from the shit episodes we've been given lately). I can see where the mistake was though. Putting actual character development, story, and genuine emotion into a series most people only watch for the fights was the mistake.

It was a flashback hence not a filler.

lmao, what kind of effing logic is that!? X]




lol a flashback is a filler with backstory vs a plain old stupid filler that has no relation to the main story.

this ep was decent since they gave so much attention to her i have a feeling she will be a char like grimjow and make a re appearance somwhere down the line.

the next ep is going to be great
it could be worse
they could have ended it with aizens to be continued screen
and started a double filler arc up again like they did before.
if that happens i will say fcck it and read the manga.
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the next ep is going to be great
it could be worse
they could have ended it with aizens to be continued screen
and started a double filler arc up again like they did before.
if that happens i will say fcck it and read the manga.


The manga's even worse than the anime, oddly.

Aug 17, 2010 6:51 PM

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Another great ep...

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Aug 17, 2010 9:22 PM
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Best part about the episode was Yoruichi trying to teach the cats how to control humans LOL
Aug 17, 2010 9:52 PM

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Sexism?

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Aug 17, 2010 11:07 PM

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Turned out a little better than what I expect after seeing the preview last week. Still, glad it's done.
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That's a bit much flashback, isn't it?
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Aug 17, 2010 11:37 PM

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It's probably just my horrible memory, but I don't remember this being n the manga... Filler?
Aug 17, 2010 11:58 PM

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Lucjan said:
I personally loved this episode. Best episode for a long time (nice relaxation from the shit episodes we've been given lately). I can see where the mistake was though. Putting actual character development, story, and genuine emotion into a series most people only watch for the fights was the mistake.

It was a flashback hence not a filler.

lmao, what kind of effing logic is that!? X]


Kubo most likely is using the anime to explain what he couldn't in the Manga due to the Time/Space constraints. This was a really long flashback afterall.
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Starbrow said:
Lucjan said:
I personally loved this episode. Best episode for a long time (nice relaxation from the shit episodes we've been given lately). I can see where the mistake was though. Putting actual character development, story, and genuine emotion into a series most people only watch for the fights was the mistake.

It was a flashback hence not a filler.

lmao, what kind of effing logic is that!? X]


Kubo most likely is using the anime to explain what he couldn't in the Manga due to the Time/Space constraints. This was a really long flashback afterall.

tl;dr He's drawing out the anime so it doesn't catch up to the manga.
Aug 18, 2010 12:01 AM

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Since when did Kubo write the script for the Bleach anime!? You guys are just making stuff up as you go.

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Lucjan said:
Since when did Kubo write the script for the Bleach anime!? You guys are just making stuff up as you go.


Well he is not going to explain Harribel's past in the manga anymore. That theme is closed.
So logically Anime is the only way to add the missing bits.

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Starbrow said:
Lucjan said:
I personally loved this episode. Best episode for a long time (nice relaxation from the shit episodes we've been given lately). I can see where the mistake was though. Putting actual character development, story, and genuine emotion into a series most people only watch for the fights was the mistake.

It was a flashback hence not a filler.

lmao, what kind of effing logic is that!? X]


Kubo most likely is using the anime to explain what he couldn't in the Manga due to the Time/Space constraints. This was a really long flashback afterall.

tl;dr He's drawing out the anime so it doesn't catch up to the manga.


That would be Filler Arcs and small 2-3 Episodes parts in between main story. Adding a filler part in 1 single episode would not help him make distance between Manga and anime.
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Starbrow said:
Lucjan said:
Since when did Kubo write the script for the Bleach anime!? You guys are just making stuff up as you go.


Well he is not going to explain Harribel's past in the manga anymore. That theme is closed.
So logically Anime is the only way to add the missing bits.


Kubo had nothing to do with this filler flashback. Kubo does not write the Bleach scripts. I imagine he mildly moderates the show as a way to avoid mishaps, but he is not a writer.

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Lucjan said:
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Lucjan said:
Since when did Kubo write the script for the Bleach anime!? You guys are just making stuff up as you go.


Well he is not going to explain Harribel's past in the manga anymore. That theme is closed.
So logically Anime is the only way to add the missing bits.


Kubo had nothing to do with this filler flashback. Kubo does not write the Bleach scripts. I imagine he mildly moderates the show as a way to avoid mishaps, but he is not a writer.

*sigh* It doesnt matter if he is involved or not in Anime production. Since the flashback is following the main storyline in the anime, its canon, untill proven othervise in the manga.
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Well at least I felt something for Hallibel.
I felt shit for Stark.


The same with me. Stark seem completely useless and uninteresting. NO.1 Espada my ass.

BTW if Hallibel ate more she would have been really scary huh?

BTW Aizen. I think you made a wrong use of Hallibel if you get my drift.

Do we now have confirmation that at least the 4 top Espada are Vasto Lords?
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Starbrow said:
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Starbrow said:
Lucjan said:
I personally loved this episode. Best episode for a long time (nice relaxation from the shit episodes we've been given lately). I can see where the mistake was though. Putting actual character development, story, and genuine emotion into a series most people only watch for the fights was the mistake.

It was a flashback hence not a filler.

lmao, what kind of effing logic is that!? X]


Kubo most likely is using the anime to explain what he couldn't in the Manga due to the Time/Space constraints. This was a really long flashback afterall.

tl;dr He's drawing out the anime so it doesn't catch up to the manga.


That would be Filler Arcs and small 2-3 Episodes parts in between main story. Adding a filler part in 1 single episode would not help him make distance between Manga and anime.
I do not share the same insight. Putting distance between the anime and manga is exactly what he did, no matter how you look at it. Saying otherwise is like saying what you just watched never physically existed... Kubo/staff/whatever/etc. probably is just too lazy to come up with original filler content so he's just throwing in random elaborations wherever he feels like.
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Starbrow said:
That would be Filler Arcs and small 2-3 Episodes parts in between main story. Adding a filler part in 1 single episode would not help him make distance between Manga and anime.

And why is that? One single filler episode is still a weeks worth of not catching up to the manga. Of course it helps keeping the distance.


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*sigh* It doesnt matter if he is involved or not in Anime production. Since the flashback is following the main storyline in the anime, its canon, untill proven othervise in the manga.

No, it isn't canon. At least not as far as I'm concerned.
I mean just look at how little sense this ep made. The Vasto Lorde were introduced as being on par with, if not stonger, than the captains. And now some random arrancar-turned Adjuchas COMPLETELY mops the floor with Harribel? How the hell do you explain crap like that?
This was filler content, nothing else because it has no impact whatsoever on the storyline. Kubo killed Harribel off without any background information, because it isn't important (in his view).

And as the anime staff is always struggling to keep behind the manga, they sometimes just come up with random ideas to spice up the manga here and there. But even if it doesn't start a plotline of it's own, it's still filler.
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Starbrow said:

*sigh* It doesnt matter if he is involved or not in Anime production. Since the flashback is following the main storyline in the anime, its canon, untill proven othervise in the manga.


Your logic is seriously effed up. You make absolutely no sense! And if that wasn't enough, you're just making crap up now. No, it isn't canon. If you don't understand the definitions of words, don't use them, as well as don't leech on evidently incorrect summations. For something to be canon, it need to originally come from the manga. This flashback did not come from the manga, thus, it wasn't canon.

And no, you go look it up in the manga. That isn't my responsibility.

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That would be Filler Arcs and small 2-3 Episodes parts in between main story. Adding a filler part in 1 single episode would not help him make distance between Manga and anime.

And why is that? One single filler episode is still a weeks worth of not catching up to the manga. Of course it helps keeping the distance.


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*sigh* It doesnt matter if he is involved or not in Anime production. Since the flashback is following the main storyline in the anime, its canon, untill proven othervise in the manga.

No, it isn't canon. At least not as far as I'm concerned.
I mean just look at how little sense this ep made. The Vasto Lorde were introduced as being on par with, if not stonger, than the captains. And now some random arrancar-turned Adjuchas COMPLETELY mops the floor with Harribel? How the hell do you explain crap like that?
This was filler content, nothing else because it has no impact whatsoever on the storyline. Kubo killed Harribel off without any background information, because it isn't important (in his view).

And as the anime staff is always struggling to keep behind the manga, they sometimes just come up with random ideas to spice up the manga here and there. But even if it doesn't start a plotline of it's own, it's still filler.

VL introduction was over hyped by manga, same as was with SS Captains. Kenpachi vs Ichigo fight, Ikkaku vs Choe Neng Poww( Barragan Fraccion), Renji vs Szayel and Rukia vs Aaroniero Arruruerie - Ikkaku and Ranji both had Bankai yet they lost while Ichigo and Rukia won with out using Bankai. Beeing a VL or Captain doesnt really means much in Bleach. Captains just like VL's come with different power levels and experience.
In Halibel vs Arrancar fight there are 2 key factors to Halibels defeat:
1) Halibel was weakned by refusing devouring other hollows
2) Arrancara had a reiatsu equil or higher to Halibels and used Hierro. Halibel couldn't cut deep enough through his Hierro which lead to her defeat.
And if you think Hierro is weak, just look the fighting between Yoruichi and Yammi.
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Starbrow said:
ReaperEXE said:
Starbrow said:
Lucjan said:
I personally loved this episode. Best episode for a long time (nice relaxation from the shit episodes we've been given lately). I can see where the mistake was though. Putting actual character development, story, and genuine emotion into a series most people only watch for the fights was the mistake.

It was a flashback hence not a filler.

lmao, what kind of effing logic is that!? X]


Kubo most likely is using the anime to explain what he couldn't in the Manga due to the Time/Space constraints. This was a really long flashback afterall.

tl;dr He's drawing out the anime so it doesn't catch up to the manga.


That would be Filler Arcs and small 2-3 Episodes parts in between main story. Adding a filler part in 1 single episode would not help him make distance between Manga and anime.
I do not share the same insight. Putting distance between the anime and manga is exactly what he did, no matter how you look at it. Saying otherwise is like saying what you just watched never physically existed... Kubo/staff/whatever/etc. probably is just too lazy to come up with original filler content so he's just throwing in random elaborations wherever he feels like.

Then why didnt they do the same for Ulquiorra and all other Espada?
Do not underestimate Animes production stuff please.
Flashback is canon, there was just no place for it in manga, as it was to long to fit in.
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