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Aug 3, 2010 7:56 PM

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Can anyone dig deep, deep within their anime mindsets and think of the first example of a tsundere?

The closest thing to the first tsundere that I can come up with is Chi-chi from Dragon Ball. I'd say she's the mother of tsundere as Koji Kabuto is to badass.
 
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Aug 3, 2010 8:06 PM

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Probably Kasumi/Misty of Pokemon.
 
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Aug 3, 2010 8:13 PM

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PseudoJordan said:
Probably Kasumi/Misty of Pokemon.


I haven't seen enough older anime, but I think it's a safe bet Misty isn't the first one.

Think I saw one in the original Gundam, but I was probably seeing things.
 
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I'm sure there had to have been an earlier instance of a tsundere than Misty, and maybe I didn't see enough of the original Dragon Ball, but Chichi really didn't seem like a tsundere. Again, only saw a little bit of Dragon Ball, so me being wrong is easily a possibility.

Earliest example I can think isn't from an anime, but I think Princess Leia's relationship with Han Solo in Star Wars Episode 4 seemed very tsundere-like.

...I believe I may have geeked out a little too much on that example.
 
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Aug 3, 2010 8:23 PM
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it's not Misty

Asuka from Neon Genesis Evangelion (1995) was before Misty from Pokemon (1997)

 
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Chichi is the definition of tsundere. She acts like a coldhearted bitch and then there's these subtle moments where she cares for Goku. I always despised her...
 
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Madoka Ayukawa from Kimagure Orange Road is most likely the first modern tsundere.
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To make this thread slightly more silly what would you consider the difference between a modern and classic tsundere?
 
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The Tsundere Club has Urusei Yatsura (aired in 1981) listed, and one would assume the female lead is the tsundere in there.
 
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ArtRodriguez said:
To make this thread slightly more silly what would you consider the difference between a modern and classic tsundere?


I think a classic tsundere would be a girl shy and uncomfortable about expressing her feelings, releasing those feelings is misconstruing ways. A modern tsundere is more violent and bitchy by nature, to the point of abuse.
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Splitter said:
ArtRodriguez said:
To make this thread slightly more silly what would you consider the difference between a modern and classic tsundere?


I think a classic tsundere would be a girl shy and uncomfortable about expressing her feelings, releasing those feelings is misconstruing ways. A modern tsundere is more violent and bitchy by nature, to the point of abuse.


Witch is actually slowly changing. The most recent tsunderes we've seen; or tsundere esque characters take the idea of tsundere-in the shy lovehate relationship but do it in a more subtly nature.

It's hard to define modern in an artform-it changse to quickly. the question is like a very hard one to awnser.
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Dragonball Z; Bulma was totally tsundere to Vegeta.

 
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Mr-Freeman said:
The Tsundere Club has Urusei Yatsura (aired in 1981) listed, and one would assume the female lead is the tsundere in there.

'fraid not. The female lead (Lum) is the excessively overt and clingy type. It's one of the supporting ones ;-)
 
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Char Aznable. >_>
 
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Uran of Astro Boy.

C'mon guys, research.

Also, I'm speaking of the original Uran, not the girly junker that we saw in the most recent adaptation.
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Aug 4, 2010 2:31 AM

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Ayumi Mamiya of Magikano was my very first Tsundere.

Feels like ages ago that I watched that.


 
Aug 4, 2010 2:38 AM

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ooo.. i thought it was Misty....XD
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ArtRodriguez said:
Chichi is the definition of tsundere. She acts like a coldhearted bitch and then there's these subtle moments where she cares for Goku. I always despised her...

No, ChiChi is probably Yandere... 18 on the other hand...
 
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supersayen said:
it's not Misty

Asuka from Neon Genesis Evangelion (1995) was before Misty from Pokemon (1997)
Whoops, I thought this thread was asking about who was the first tsundere for each individual. My fault.
 
Aug 14, 2010 10:55 AM
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If you ask me. Sayaka from Mazinger Z is the earliest tsundere I can think of. She had all the characteristics.

And Mazinger is what, from 75??
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Onibokusu said:
Uran of Astro Boy.

C'mon guys, research.

Also, I'm speaking of the original Uran, not the girly junker that we saw in the most recent adaptation.
Oh wow '63! But I think Lum classifies better.
 
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ArtRodriguez said:

The closest thing to the first tsundere that I can come up with is Chi-chi from Dragon Ball. I'd say she's the mother of tsundere as Koji Kabuto is to badass.
i got to say that Bulma is the first Tsundere in dragonball than Chichi she 2nd.But i think Dragonball has alot of Tsundere characters like Bra,Videl and Pan if im not mistaken lol
 
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werr-y said:
Onibokusu said:
Uran of Astro Boy.

C'mon guys, research.

Also, I'm speaking of the original Uran, not the girly junker that we saw in the most recent adaptation.
Oh wow '63! But I think Lum classifies better.


Only if we're talking about tsundere in a romantic situation.
 
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my first girlfriend back in high school would be the first tsundere I'd ever met...actually..she was just plain bitch but anyways..

..can't remember my very first tsundere in anime but one that does come to mind so many years back is Narusegawa from Love Hina. I'd say Fujiko Mine but she's in a class of her own.

the diff with tsundere's nowadays is that they try too hard making them cliche to the classics
 
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Onibokusu said:
werr-y said:
Onibokusu said:
Uran of Astro Boy.

C'mon guys, research.

Also, I'm speaking of the original Uran, not the girly junker that we saw in the most recent adaptation.
Oh wow '63! But I think Lum classifies better.


Only if we're talking about tsundere in a romantic situation.
You have a point there.
 
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I think my first tsundere was totally Sayaka Yumi from Mazinger Z.
She's the really prototype of modern tsundere... bitchy and cold at the start, and than she open more and more in the relationship with Koji.

But...hey... before mazinger there was DEVILMAN! XD
So the first is absolutely for me is Miki Makimura, she have a strong personality when Akira is a weak boy, but is loveable and gentle when he transform and take a stronger role for himself, defending her always.

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Either Sailor Mars from Sailor Moon or Misty from Pokemon.
I can't remember which one I saw first. I want to say it was Sailor Mars, but that might be wrong.
 
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Earliest one I can think of is Little My of Muumin franchise (1969)



The original creator is Finnish though and the first book came out in 1945
 
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Dragonball Z; Bulma was totally tsundere to Vegeta.


wtf are you talking about? Vegeta is the first Tsundere..... lol

but then again, Bulma is from Dragonball, so she came first xD
 
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Historically the first character to be called tsundere was Daikuuji Ayu from the excellent kimi ga nozomu eien in 2002.

AFAIK No character was recognised as such previous to her . So, even if there are now peoples to point out similar personality traits in older characters, the first tsundere is Ayu, and not an older character, as they only gained their "tsundere status" after Ayu.
Tsundere is an extension of the IRL behaviour of someone bullying the person he/she loves because he/she's too embarrassed to be honest with his/her feeling.
So if you're going to say that the "first tsundere" isn't defined by the first called tsundere but instead by the first character to have that same kind of behaviour before that, then we may have to go back to several hundred (thousands?) years old fiction stories to find that first character.
Which obviously is useless and fruitless.

So the first tsundere character is Daikuuji Ayu , QED.
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Didn't the mangaka of Inuyasha started the Tsundere trend with her characters?
 
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lucjan said:
Dragonball Z; Bulma was totally tsundere to Vegeta.
Wasn't that the other way?
Vegeta for the most part is tsundere towards Bulma.

But Vegeta x Bulma came in 1996 tho.
 
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Hmmm......the earliest tsundere I can think is of course the best tsundere Vegeta
 
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Earliest one I can think of is Little My of Muumin franchise (1969)


The original creator is Finnish though and the first book came out in 1945


If this topic was an argument, you had totally won!

though My maybe should fall in that sub-group of small Tensai Tsundere! (compare Haruna of Zombie desu-ka)
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I honestly don't know, and even if, then they are not the earliest, but do the following fall under "tsundere" ?
Faye Valentine of Cowboy Bebop (1998)?
Natsume, Akiko of All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku (1992)?

just curious.
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ArtRodriguez said:
To make this thread slightly more silly what would you consider the difference between a modern and classic tsundere?

Classic tsunderes are the kind of love interest that start their relationship badly, but warm up to the other person over time.
Modern tsunderes have a personality problem that causes them to rapidly change their apparent personality between good and bad, especially if any love interests are nearby.
 
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Probably Haruhi Suzumiya from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. She's a Tsundere right? If not then it's probably Kagami from Lucky☆Star
 
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I though about Asuka from Evangelion as well
 
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You basement dwellers are giving dumb fuck anime creators an excuse to continue adding lazy character archetypes into their garbage shows. Instead of having genuine inspiration for a character to add to a story, neck beard anime makers will just go " heyyyy I'll just add a Tsundere to my show. Western weebs love Tsundere girls. I'll make $100000 off of my shit show. Gg nerds". This industry needs to die. Fuck.
 
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Grumpy from Snow White Disney movie.
 
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I was gonna say Granny from the Looney Tunes
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Misty from pokemon, i think i was 5 years old back then when i first watched pokemon.
 
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Beatrice from Much Ado About Nothing, 1598.
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ErwinJA said:
Mr-Freeman said:
The Tsundere Club has Urusei Yatsura (aired in 1981) listed, and one would assume the female lead is the tsundere in there.

'fraid not. The female lead (Lum) is the excessively overt and clingy type. It's one of the supporting ones ;-)

Actually the male lead is the tsundere in that show.
 
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Ninamori from FLCL probably. Unless it was Chi Chi from DB(Dunno if she counts, she has her Tsun Tsun moments)
 
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