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May 16, 2008 5:59 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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So here it begins...(?)

Murasaki and Yuuno as love rivals? ohoho interesting.. (though I pretty much expected it to turn out like this... :P)

lol it was frickin funny how Tamaki explains everything the way "adults" think and how Murasaki understands it... XD

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May 19, 2008 9:16 PM
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Ah, I felt sorry for Tamaki. She deserves better.

Murasaki was found out. I wonder what will happen now....
And thus it is now the real start...I guess D:.
May 19, 2008 11:59 PM
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Tamaki D:

But what an episode. The first half was a blast to watch and the the setup afterwards was great. I am getting pumped up for all this. It was so funny when Murasaki told Shinkurou to break up with Yuuno.
May 20, 2008 3:08 AM
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Heh.. Murasaki claiming Shinkurou is a lolicon and wanting him to pick herself over Yuuno. That part made me laugh ^^.

Apparently it's getting more serious from now on..
May 20, 2008 3:35 AM
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Heh.. Murasaki claiming Shinkurou is a lolicon and wanting him to pick herself over Yuuno...
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Ah, I felt sorry for Tamaki. She deserves better.

D:.
May 20, 2008 4:05 AM
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Tamaki is so awesome... I love dialogues in this anime.
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May 20, 2008 5:30 AM
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Imma quite confused here... Does Murasaki <3 Shinkurou or is it just Tamaki's influence '^' ?

Nway, we should be seeing Shinkurou use his horn very soon...(anticipanting for ages)
May 20, 2008 7:24 AM
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Really good episode. Again, the interaction between the characters was brilliant. I can't wait for the storyline to continue in the next ep. It's going to get good now that they are going to be trying to get Murasaki back.
May 20, 2008 2:16 PM
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"Who's a lolicon?!"
Heh...
Enjoyable as always, seems the lighter episodes are coming to an end with the Kuhouin's finding Murasaki's location.
May 20, 2008 2:22 PM

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I found this episode rather tiring compared to te ones before...looking forward for more, seems the real thing will start next episode :D


May 20, 2008 3:42 PM

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I hope he doesnt really wear those hand warmers
May 20, 2008 4:29 PM

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And for some reason I'm starting to think that I should drop this serie... everybody talks so much and there's like no action at all ;S
May 20, 2008 5:03 PM

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Great episode. It's nice that they finally got back to the actual plot.
May 20, 2008 6:21 PM
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And for some reason I'm starting to think that I should drop this serie... everybody talks so much and there's like no action at all ;S


if you like action then drop this series and watch shounen.....

The plot has advanced so much in this episode no matter how you look at it....
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May 20, 2008 9:10 PM

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Loved the ep. Looking forward to seeing how the Kuhoins are gonna try to get Murasaki back.

and as a note, If all anime had nothing but action, it would be no different from crappy American animation. Not saying action anime is bad, but anime is supposed to be diverse, and I personally think Kurenai is very good. It has great plot and character development!
May 20, 2008 9:30 PM

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Another great episode. I loved it that Tamaki got some character development, and the Kuhouin story slowly being more and more revealed. Eagerly awaiting the next episode~
May 21, 2008 12:34 AM

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Very happy about this episode. I was starting to worry that they would focus too much on character development, and leave the actual plot for the last few episodes (assuming this is still 12-13 eps)

And Tamaki deserved it~!





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May 21, 2008 1:37 AM
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I don't think this is 13 episodes.
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May 21, 2008 2:11 AM

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Thanks for the spoiler, use tags plx. Though I kinda expected it anyway.





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May 21, 2008 3:04 AM
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Thanks for the spoiler, use tags plx. Though I kinda expected it anyway.


Anime will probably deviate from the novels since that end might be viewed as pedo.

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Syanaide said:
Thanks for the spoiler, use tags plx. Though I kinda expected it anyway.


Anime will probably deviate from the novels since that end might be viewed as pedo.


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Episode was great, funny and serious at the same time. Looking forward to how the story develops in the next episodes.

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May 21, 2008 4:50 AM

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OMG I love how they did Tamaki's character development. Theyre all such real persons. The part where they went back to the main story didnt interest me as much tho,
i rather prefer the random situations Murasaki gets in..
May 21, 2008 5:59 AM

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Another amazing episode. The first half was just awesome and fun to watch and then we got to the second half and it was very interesting and advanced the plot quite a bit. This show continues to deliver.
May 21, 2008 6:53 AM

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hehe, its about time they got into it.
May 21, 2008 12:56 PM
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Wow, Kurenai never ceases to amaze me, the pace is just great (as are the animation and art) the dialogues are the best I have ever seen in an anime and the setting is terrific too, let alone the characters which are close to perfection. It will be one of the very best animes of the 2000's for me with Gankutsu Ou if it can remain at the same level on 26 episodes, but I fear there'll only be 12 as stated on ANN, and so, the series should be rushed near the end :/

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May 21, 2008 8:47 PM

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Ryoujin said:
And for some reason I'm starting to think that I should drop this serie... everybody talks so much and there's like no action at all ;S


if you like action then drop this series and watch shounen.....

The plot has advanced so much in this episode no matter how you look at it....


Seriously, drop the series if you want action that much... Personally I'm enjoying this quite a bit.

Lolicon ftw! Also, I want some handwarmers too. ;3

And it does seem like its going to be more serious from now on.

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May 21, 2008 10:08 PM

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Tamaki D:

But what an episode. The first half was a blast to watch and the the setup afterwards was great. I am getting pumped up for all this. It was so funny when Murasaki told Shinkurou to break up with Yuuno.


... xD I have nothing else to add, other than;;
same x3
May 25, 2008 7:00 AM

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another interesting episode, but i cant believe its only going to be 12 eps long
Jun 2, 2008 2:46 AM

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Heh.. Murasaki claiming Shinkurou is a lolicon and wanting him to pick herself over Yuuno. That part made me laugh ^^.

Apparently it's getting more serious from now on..


i also LOL'd at this part XD
Jun 4, 2008 4:00 PM

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Funny epiosde. I lol'd at Murasaki told Shinkurou to break up with Yuuno.
Jun 16, 2008 3:15 PM

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How conveniant Yayoi disappears from the show when Murasaki goes on her little trip to uni and thus is discovered. Everything's weak about this show, its beyond frustrating, and if its true about how the story plays out in the novel, it makes me actually go from dislike to pure hating Kure-nai.
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Aug 24, 2008 8:58 PM
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Oh, so they're finally gonna take her back huh..
Looking forward to the last few episodes..
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How conveniant Yayoi disappears from the show when Murasaki goes on her little trip to uni and thus is discovered. Everything's weak about this show, its beyond frustrating, and if its true about how the story plays out in the novel, it makes me actually go from dislike to pure hating Kure-nai.


From Yayoi disappearance while Murasaki goes to the uni I started feeling the incoherence of the story. Before that Epi 1 to 6 there was only a story setup and "Fill times" scenes without any purpose (like public bath scene where nothing really happened). I hope from now on the story development start more aggressively. I don't feel attached to this series but I hope they will fix it in the remaining Episodes.
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May 24, 2009 7:15 AM

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tamaki D8

well decent ep btw, love rival 8D
Jun 18, 2009 7:06 AM

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But what an episode. The first half was a blast to watch and the the setup afterwards was great. I am getting pumped up for all this. It was so funny when Murasaki told Shinkurou to break up with Yuuno.
Sep 12, 2009 12:54 AM

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Murasaki and Tamaki get a little heart to heart going. I didn't know Tamaki was such a cobra when it comes to men.
Nov 29, 2009 2:56 PM

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Good episode.
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tamaki D8

Truly an enciclopedia of men-women relationships.

Also lol-ed at Murasaki at the end."I am a good woman,that's why you became a lolicon." lol

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I thought it was a pretty good episode, although I did feel bad for Tamaki. She probably would have been better off not catching sight of her ex with his "new" girlfriend. The guy was so wimpy that she had no choice, really... and in any case, she deserves better.

I guess it was just a matter of time before the Kuhoin dude/Murasaki's father found out where Benika hid her. Of course, she probably wouldn't have been found out if Tamaki hadn't taken her out... Ugh. I kind of wish Tamaki and Yamie weren't irresponsible in that way, and that they actually let Murasaki just follow Shinkurou and Benika's orders to not go outside. Oh well! Guess this will get the real storyline moving for real, now.
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Just as I was getting kind of tired of slice-of-life, it bust out from it.

It was interesting that it showed that "freedom" is not a paradise via Tamaki's romantic troubles (with a well-done sudden shift in tone), but then made an implicit argument for it by showing the highly structured world of the Inner Sanctuary does not prevent the same problems and yet creates some more. It's nice to see some actual theming in an anime show.

Now that I see it mentioned in this thread though, Yayoi did seem conveniently absent and incompetent in her vigil.
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And now it begins.
Aug 27, 2012 7:34 PM

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Tamaki was my favourite character before this ep due to how she 'schooled' the loli about the relationships of women with men and how to control timid men, such as the lead. The "What's a lolicon?" question being answered with something along the lines of "It means the lead loves you" was PRICELESS. The way she mixes real-life truths with trolling is just...

What made this ep my favourite so far in the series was how Tamaki was first presented as a steal-other-girls-men-for-fun bitch, with the ability to judge whether couples will break up or not, and then - only a few seconds later - she was begging a guy not to dump her, with a kid brought along as a last resort to avoid being dumped. Her personality and weaknesses as a human were put on display alongside each other in such a slick manner that I was able to accept her as the woman she is, with everything but what she needs to sustain a relationship.
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Lol at Murasaki. Strong personality and one cheeky kiddo.
May 8, 2013 3:02 AM

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Loved this episode.
The first half was really good.
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Oh crap she's been found out! Well this doesn't seem good for the coming episodes but well I'm sure it will get quite interesting from now on!
Sep 19, 2014 2:08 AM

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In your face Tamaki! teaching Murasaki shitty stuff and not only that if that Satoshi was telling the truth that Tamaki always hits him then their break up was for the best. Yeah she was about to hit him...Fucking violent slut. She don't even go to class... no hope for this one.

Not only that the influence that bitch has on Murasaki... now the show is kinda implying that Murasaki's a love interest too for Shinkurou.. that's just fucking disgusting man. Also because she brought Murasaki to her university and later to that fast food (she brought Murasaki to Shinkurou's school too) Murasaki has been found out. Fucking bitch.

Seriously Shinkurou is surrounded by terrible people on that shitty apartment... he should reconsider living in that place now that a child is with him.
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Mar 19, 2016 9:37 AM

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What's up with all those "Tamaki deserves better" posts? Sure, she's fun to watch and her trolling is entertaining ("What is a lolicon?" "It means he likes you,") but she was abusive to her boyfriend. That's not okay just because she's a woman, the man was clearly afraid of her. I actually like her character because it's quite complex, but it doesn't mean she's a good person.
Anyway, I liked this episode, I just hope Murasaki doesn't turn out to be Shinkurou's love interest. I never would have guessed if it wasn't for the comments because the series doesn't sexualize her at all, but of it happens, I'm gonna hate this show. It would be too creepy.
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Tamaki has an awful personality, I'm glad she was dumped.
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I don't get all those "Tamaki deserves better". She and that goth chick are useless people, only bring trouble to Shinkuro and teach Murasaki weird shit.

Also, it's stated that she pretty much always abused Satoshi both physically (by hitting him) and verbally because "he was too weak". Like, fuck her, she deserved to get dumped.

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