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May 14, 2008 10:00 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Wow. That was amazing. The talk about mixing memories was really neat.



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Jul 12, 2008 6:58 AM

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Yeah, although I want to know how that kid survived the explosion...I can only assume he had a cyber body?
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OranSolus said:
Yeah, although I want to know how that kide survived the explosion...I can only assume he had a cyber body?


I'm going off very vague memory here, but I dont think there was an explosion, it was a fake memory inserted into his cyber-brain.
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The episode was really good. Gave a background of Aramaki and his close relationship with his MOD buddy Kubota. It appears that together with the deceased Col. Tsujisaki the three men were a formidable force back in their early years in military service.

Also, it was cool implanting a fake memory to Tsujisaki's son. I really thought that the kid succeeded in his plan and I wondered how the heck can Motoko and Batou survive that thing? Well, a good twist in the end was revealed to my satisfaction.

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Cihan said:
OranSolus said:
Yeah, although I want to know how that kide survived the explosion...I can only assume he had a cyber body?


I'm going off very vague memory here, but I dont think there was an explosion, it was a fake memory inserted into his cyber-brain.


Ah yes, I remember now. Thanks for that!
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Sep 6, 2008 11:49 PM

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Awesome ending.
 
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Interesting episode as always, events related to Aramaki are always interesting.
 
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Nov 17, 2009 9:06 PM

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Crimsonwill said:
Interesting episode as always, events related to Aramaki are always interesting.

I agree. I really like the episodes with him or Batou as the main focus.
 
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Dec 12, 2009 8:07 PM

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I seriously almost jumped out of my seat at the end there and I think I woke up my roommates!

What a great show.
 
Dec 20, 2009 12:30 AM

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So the explosion was just the false memory that they implanted? Makes sense, I guess.
 
Feb 13, 2010 10:02 PM

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so both minds occupied one body, and thus they started to merge and create a new mind with one goal, technology is amazing
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Wait, I still don't get it, how did he fail killing the minister?
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Nov 25, 2010 4:58 PM

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Kusanagi jumped in at the last minute and KOd him before he could pull off the assassination. The following explosion was a fake memory implanted into the assassin's cyberbrain to make him believe he succeeded so he would not try again.
 
Mar 26, 2011 6:25 PM

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That's quite interesting how the two personalities were merging together. Another good episode, it's good that Motoko was able to step in on time, may of not been able to if she didn't know before hand.
 
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interesting with the two personality thing.

also i actually thought he actually killed Motoko and Batou in that explosion. then again it was actually a fake memory implanted to him right before he could kill him. if it was a one way assassination should he have a bomb in the flowers in the first place???

anyway good episode, damn Motoko pretty much abusing the stealth camo there :P

i knew Major won't die that easily :P
 
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I love the imaginative plots of GitS. Although most of it isn't anything new, GitS was one of the first franchises to introduce these story-lines, and the way they are executed is just great. Entertaining and complex.

I confess I was a bit confused there at the end with the explosion and all. But the implanted memory now makes much more sense. Pretty cool concept the fact that two minds in the same body will inevitably generate conflict and eventually create a new "person"
 
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NANI?

boom
 
Oct 7, 2012 11:17 AM

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How the hell did Major survive that explosion??? She must be pretty freakin durable!

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DarkShards said:
How the hell did Major survive that explosion??? She must be pretty freakin durable!


Like was said before, it was a fake memory implanted into his brain. It never happened.
 
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Wow.. that was crazy...
 
Dec 22, 2012 12:08 PM

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Quite a nice episode actually, really like the story in this one! Especially the ending that was altered in his own brain!
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The two personality thing was really interesting. Loved this case. Also that bomb was damn unexpected.

 
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Ye, it was a fake memory as the explosion didn't kill them.
 
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TravSavage said:
DarkShards said:
How the hell did Major survive that explosion??? She must be pretty freakin durable!


Like was said before, it was a fake memory implanted into his brain. It never happened.


Yes but if that was a fake memory, it wouldn't mean that assasination was successful. Because they immediately departed the president guy. The guy wasn't even in the range of explosion. So, that doesn't make sense.
 
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Two thing where totally unexpected in this episode.
1) The moment when you thought that he stabbed the minister then i turns out that Major stopped him.
2) That explosion was so sudden that it scared the shit out of me.

With that said it was an enjoyable episode.
 
May 31, 2013 2:16 PM

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naniiiiiiii
 
Jun 17, 2013 8:27 AM

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4/5

Episode with a plot that manages to impress and give the pathos in the final episode, narrative back on the tracks of cyberpunk, with a theory not so fanciful. Dialogues fine this time too.
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Dec 13, 2013 6:16 AM

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GITS has once again impress us with the technology. Memory-mixing...woah. And really liked how effective Section 9 operates. Immediately implanting false memories into the assassin...just great. Somehow reminds me of GetBackers. Jagan (evil eye) by Midou Ban,"Just ippun! ii yume mita?"
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That was a well planed assassination. The Major made a mistake by not totaly restraining him. It could have been a lot worse.

When I saw the knife, I was pretty sure the gun was a lure.
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Feb 11, 2014 6:31 PM

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And another great episode, I really loved this one especially the ending where they were overriding the memories because of the scifi feel it gave off.

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That was a well planed assassination. The Major made a mistake by not totaly restraining him. It could have been a lot worse.

When I saw the knife, I was pretty sure the gun was a lure.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'making a mistake', there was no bomb, that was just a fake memory to make it seem like the assassination actually although in reality it failed.
 
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An episode full of exciting twists. Really good plot, narrative that is unconnected with the theme principlae, but investigates another very interesting point of the human ego.
Drawing a little down, but anmazioni and discrete scenarios.
 
Nov 24, 2014 10:00 PM

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LOL, I got fucking punk'd
 
Nov 25, 2014 10:50 PM

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Omg, I was actually startled by the explosion. Thank goodness it was fake. XD

But 'dat flower bomb though
 
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Oh wow that was pretty cool. I love how he baited them out with the sniper rifle bullet to make them thing he was doing a long range assassination, I've seen a film which did that too I believe :D
 
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Yeah, I was mildly surprised that he reached the minister with the knife, but the explosion freaked me out. That it was part of the implanted memory is the only logical explanation I see, but won't he realize the minister is still alive later? I don't see how that will work.

The addition of the father's memories to Yu's, affecting Yu's personality as a result, is an interesting plot point.

Perhaps these various possibilities that we're being introduced to will come back into play with the future complex episodes?
 
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Explosion scared the crap out of me, but that was a pretty crazy assassination plan. ( Johan would have approved it tho )
 
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Took me a while to notice that the explosion was the fake memory. I got that they implanted a successful assassination but they never outright claimed it was the blast. Was confused as to how everyone ninja'd themselves away.
 
Mar 13, 2016 9:16 AM

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How did they not die within that explosion? xD
 
Apr 8, 2016 3:32 AM

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That fake memory really threw me for a second. Wondered how they had all survived until they mentioned that.
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Oct 2, 2016 7:30 AM

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Fake memories eh?
But can't they make it more clearer.. I thought the one in the hospital are Batou & Major because of the explosion
Well that was a nice explosion though xD

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Oct 14, 2016 3:59 PM

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Ray_Light said:
Fake memories eh?
But can't they make it more clearer.. I thought the one in the hospital are Batou & Major because of the explosion
Well that was a nice explosion though xD

EXPLOSION!!! -Megumin

Haha yeah, my thoughts exactly. I was kinda worried there for a bit that the explosion hit the Major and Batou. I was relieved to find out the truth.
And yeah, EXPLOSION ^^
 
Jan 10, 2017 5:48 PM

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Another aramaki episode :)

Interestingly, I can see that being an issue in the future; having different selfs confused up in one body. Sad to hear whats happened to the kid, hopefully he wakea up as the son.
 
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Hmmm that was unexpected I never thought that he will have another weapon.
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nice episode and nice fake memories there.
What i find odd is that Section 9 lasted so long in figuring it out. It's not like them.
Major as always, saving the day
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May 21, 2018 9:48 AM

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Mostly uninteresting, nice explotion tho.
 
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Explosion caught me off guard :O
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I feel like this stand-alone episode fell flat. It tried too much without sufficient explanation as to how the two minds combined. I know this show uses "sci-fi magic" as the reasoning for lots of stuff, but this time my suspension of disbelief was more strained than usual.
 
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