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Jun 25, 2010 2:21 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I couldn't understand much this episode (due to the lack of subs and my ability to speak or understand Japanese) but it was an ok ending from what I could understand nonetheless. When subs come out, I'll be editing this post with a bit more to say.

Raw Stream here: http://himado.in/24280 (thanks to icyhandofcrap for the link).
Raw Torrent here: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=139528

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EDIT: Okay, so ages after watching it subbed I've decided to come back and say this: Shit last episode anime is shit. Sequel do want. 3/10 4/10.
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Jun 25, 2010 2:52 PM

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While Hanekawa was applying gore hacks to Araragi, I found it interesting at least that he remembered that Hitagi would be the one to kill him, not Hanekawa, or anyone else for that matter, though this sentiment ultimately serves little to no purpose because Araragi (still) can't do anything for himself. Also, why only 3 seconds of Shinobu's awesomeness, without a single word from Shinobu? Things end up going back to the way the were, and thankfully there's no "Ore no Harem!" ending for Araragi. 4minutes and 30 seconds into the episode, everything that happens in that extremely quick flashback is 10000x more interesting than anything and everything that happened in Bakemonogatari.... I really wish some studio other than SHAFT would have animated this, their so called "prose" really took away from a lot of the untapped potential that this series had. One thing that was done consistently well was the music. Many of you would be able to sum up this series in two words; kuro, and aka. In the end Bakemonogatari was pretty average, and there were many plot-holes, inconsistencies, frequent occurrences of questionable animation, etc., but it still had it's own unique presentation, so the series gets a 6/10.
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Jun 25, 2010 4:11 PM

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This was actually.. Really great : D
I'm so damn glad that my scarce Japanese skills enabled me to get the general idea of the episode, since I, obviously, could wait for the subs when "a dude" felt like linking the stream~
I'm really glad Ararararagi's sticking to Senjougahara, even when it comes to dying : D
And Shinobu awesomeness was damn awesome, even if short~
So.. Except for the lack of Senjougahara in this episode, it was still godlike. The whole show was godlike. No arguing.
I need moar of mah Senjougahara. Thus it's kind of sad that it's over now >.> But.. Well.. It was so good, so I don't know if I'd really want more of it.. :'D

Ahem. 10. Out of 10. Don't argue.
Rewatching when the subs're out.
Oh, and yeah, gief Kizumonogatari.
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Jun 25, 2010 4:37 PM
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"Finally", is all i can say. But was it really worth the w8, im not sure.
 
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Jun 25, 2010 4:42 PM
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^ it's not like we have a choice
@ReaperEXE did shinobu ever speak?
meh, boring. how can those 2 talk for half an ep anyways?
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Jun 25, 2010 4:46 PM

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eh?! episode 15 ?
damn! my dvd only has 13 episodes and i thought it ended there amf
Stupid 3rd World Country

 
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Jun 25, 2010 5:40 PM
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Jun 25, 2010 6:20 PM

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Wow, Bakemonogatari manages to bring back everything it had even after waiting for months. Not as good as episode 14, but definitely where I expected it. The story couldn't really go an other way anymore, so I'm content with the presentation.

Overall Bakemonogatari was a great viewing experience with a unique character (Senjogahara), consistent plot, stunning art, brilliant animation when there was, fitting soundtracks and a set of magnificient theme songs. It just goes too far at some points where it wasn't necessary, otherwise Bakemonogatari would be my #1 anime to recommend to anyone.
I think solid 9/10 is fine for this.. it could maintain it's impression over a year already and is possibly the only anime in the high sales region, that deserves it actually.

Yes, I would watch a 52 episodes series containing nothing but dialogues between Araragi and Senjogahara =)
 
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Jun 25, 2010 7:08 PM

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Wait wait wait... No Senjougahara???
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Jun 25, 2010 7:59 PM

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^ Senjougahara is in last minute and steal the show AGAIN.

if ep 12 is good ending. then ep 15 is true end/w harem.

6/10 for ep 15

10/10 for series.

p.s. anyone notice a plaster in shinobu kick scene?
 
Jun 25, 2010 8:15 PM

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^ Now that's what I'm talking about. 3-in-1 girl RULES!!!
 
Jun 25, 2010 8:43 PM

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Noooo it's over! I need Kizumonogatar or Nisemonogatari NAO! >_<

Well, what to say. Awesome series, proving again that it is worthy of being one of my favourites. Just love everything about this show from the Charcters, the plot, the art to the soundtrack. 10/10
Now, time to finish getting the BD...
 
Jun 25, 2010 9:43 PM

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Well, it was good, not great. Not worth 4 months though, seriously.
 
Jun 26, 2010 12:18 AM

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happysushi said:
@ReaperEXE did shinobu ever speak?
Honestly, I cannot remember, but it kind of defeats the purpose of having a voice actor, especially since it's supposedly Aya Hirano. >_>
 
Jun 26, 2010 1:10 AM

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What is with this Aya Hirano hype...?

And only if they make this the penultimate episode and changed ep 12 as the final instead...
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I found a torrent for a subbed episode however I'm unsure of the quality as I have never heard of "pem" before.

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=139650
 
Jun 26, 2010 3:41 AM

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cxxx26 said:
Tyestor said:
I found a torrent for a subbed episode however I'm unsure of the quality as I have never heard of "pem" before.

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=139650


I think pem intends to split episode into 5 parts, and upload them today, tomorrow, day after tomorrow, etc. That's why I'm not even going to bother trying them and will wait for a real subs.


Yeah the first part today is 6 minutes long.
 
Jun 26, 2010 3:44 AM

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a_l_2606 said:
What is with this Aya Hirano hype...?
She's just popular I suppose.
Besides, she's like, even more hyped up in Japan at the moment, what with hair loss, changing hair color often, supposed betrothal, etc. xD
Well she's getting much publicity at least. Not to mention all the huge voice acting roles she's had.
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Jun 26, 2010 5:54 AM

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cxxx26 said:
Tyestor said:
I found a torrent for a subbed episode however I'm unsure of the quality as I have never heard of "pem" before.

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=139650


I think pem intends to split episode into 5 parts, and upload them today, tomorrow, day after tomorrow, etc. That's why I'm not even going to bother trying them and will wait for a real subs.


Yeah the first part today is 6 minutes long.


why the hell release this episode in 5 parts? what kind of human being does this kind of thing to a last episode of an anime?!!!?
 
Jun 26, 2010 6:07 AM

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cxxx26 said:
Tyestor said:
I found a torrent for a subbed episode however I'm unsure of the quality as I have never heard of "pem" before.

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=139650


I think pem intends to split episode into 5 parts, and upload them today, tomorrow, day after tomorrow, etc. That's why I'm not even going to bother trying them and will wait for a real subs.


Ah Ok, fair enough. In that case, I'll wait for the full episode.
 
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haven't seen it yet, but just to contribute to the Shinobu never speaking thing-imo, having Aya confirmed as her seiyuu just confirms they'll be making a Kizumonogatari OVA. Which is a very, very god thing.
 
Jun 26, 2010 8:07 AM

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Meh , the episode was booring except for Shinobu's short moment . 6/10 overall .
 
Jun 26, 2010 8:47 AM

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patlagik said:
why the hell release this episode in 5 parts? what kind of human being does this kind of thing to a last episode of an anime?!!!?


Umm. I think his doing this because he can. I guess it makes him feel like he has power over BMG-fans. Which is pretty much true because so far pem is only group that have done EP 14, so I guess we have no choice but to wait five days. Sucks though.

Also, it seems that that pem guy (I don't really think it's a real group, more like guy from nutbladder just trollin') dislikes this show. Just check comments at nyaa.

I'm SO waiting for this episode, so it's kinda sad how we must wait just for the sake of trolling a bit.
 
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Jun 26, 2010 10:04 AM

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patlagik said:
why the hell release this episode in 5 parts? what kind of human being does this kind of thing to a last episode of an anime?!!!?
Delicious trolling to the Bakefags. I am proud.
 
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ReaperEXE said:
happysushi said:
@ReaperEXE did shinobu ever speak?
Honestly, I cannot remember, but it kind of defeats the purpose of having a voice actor, especially since it's supposedly Aya Hirano. >_>


Just to clear the confusion, Hirano Aya is listed as the voice actress of Shinobu BECAUSE of the drama cds. Yes, Shinobu spoke in the drama cds. (化物語 -佰物語-)

HOWEVER, it is unlikely that Shinobu will speak in this anime because in the official bakemonogatari website, Shinobu and Hirano Aya ARE NOT LISTED as part of the cast. http://www.bakemonogatari.com/staff/

Of course, if Kizumonogatari anime is ever made, it is highly likely that Hirano Aya will play as Shinobu and speak. But for Bakemonogatari anime, you guys can stop guessing whether she will speak or not because she simply won't.
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patlagik said:
GarLogan78 said:
cxxx26 said:
Tyestor said:
I found a torrent for a subbed episode however I'm unsure of the quality as I have never heard of "pem" before.

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=139650


I think pem intends to split episode into 5 parts, and upload them today, tomorrow, day after tomorrow, etc. That's why I'm not even going to bother trying them and will wait for a real subs.


Yeah the first part today is 6 minutes long.


why the hell release this episode in 5 parts? what kind of human being does this kind of thing to a last episode of an anime?!!!?


 
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othic said:
icekatana8825 said:




it appears I made typo
icekatana8825 said:
SEE THE INVISIBLE TOUCH THE UNTOUCHABLE
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Maximatum99 said:
patlagik said:
why the hell release this episode in 5 parts? what kind of human being does this kind of thing to a last episode of an anime?!!!?
Delicious trolling to the Bakefags. I am proud.

Actually, it's kind of funny 8D

Anyway, yeah, I kind of want closure already, so I can't wait till it's wholly subbed. I missed Oshino x3 (the male one)
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Jun 27, 2010 3:14 AM
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It was a good episode, well the best part of the series was unmistakeably episode 12, that should have been the last one.

Anyways, I still enjoyed it. Fuck yeah Shinobu!
 
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Ep12 was a far better ending imo, but this is good as well. If only they switched 12 and 15 around and altered things to change the chronology it'd be a wonderful way to end the series. I'm glad it's over at least. Lots of cool shots and the music delivered. For a dialogue oriented series like this, SHAFT is the only one who could have done it without making the interactions boring as hell. That's subjective I guess, but haters gonna hate so whatever *shrug*.
 
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Kantarou said:
Ep12 was a far better ending imo, but this is good as well. If only they switched 12 and 15 around and altered things to change the chronology it'd be a wonderful way to end the series. I'm glad it's over at least. Lots of cool shots and the music delivered. For a dialogue oriented series like this, SHAFT is the only one who could have done it without making the interactions boring as hell. That's subjective I guess, but haters gonna hate so whatever *shrug*.


It's all thanks to SHAFT's crazy visuals... Can't say the same for animation, though.
 
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Maximatum99 said:
patlagik said:
why the hell release this episode in 5 parts? what kind of human being does this kind of thing to a last episode of an anime?!!!?
Delicious trolling to the Bakefags. I am proud.

I agree, this man is a trolling genius, SHAFT makes fans wait a whole year to finish this series, neglects to animte the OP for the last episode, and then when released the ONLY one willing to sub the show (u'd think other groups would seeing how this is supposed to be popular) will sub it over a period of 6 days to make the fans and the bloggers talk their hearts out. Truly the bakemonogatari fags are one of the most trolled fanbases in recent anime only second to the Haruhi fanbase
 
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I started watching this show a year ago because certain screenshots of Hitagi from episode 2 caught my attention, so I was hoping for more. What I got instead was red screen/black screen/blue screen/white screen/orange screen/purple screen/split-second-flashy-text-screen (sorry if I left out some type of colored screen). In other words, I got SHAFTed. So I'm giving a 5/10 to this overrated mess, along with a "shaft you, SHAFT". Good night everybody.
 
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I'm really glad Araragi didn't turn into another indecisive harem protagonist and actually made a pick on his own.

Ep15 was as good as I could've hoped, other than Senjougahara's screen time too short.
 
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I started watching this show a year ago because certain screenshots of Hitagi from episode 2 caught my attention, so I was hoping for more. What I got instead was red screen/black screen/blue screen/white screen/orange screen/purple screen/split-second-flashy-text-screen (sorry if I left out some type of colored screen). In other words, I got SHAFTed. So I'm giving a 5/10 to this overrated mess, along with a "shaft you, SHAFT". Good night everybody.


Umm... so what were you hoping for at that time?
 
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Episode 15 Screencaps and Impressions:
http://randomc.net/2010/06/27/bakemonogatari-15-end/
 
Jun 28, 2010 12:45 AM

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I wanted to see Araragi go into vampire mode but I'll settle for Shinobu's awesomeness. This was a great series and I really hope they do Kizumonogatari.
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Anyway it turned out much better than most SHAFT productions directed by Shinbou Akiyuki so you have to give credit for that
 
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I wanted to see Araragi go into vampire mode but I'll settle for Shinobu's awesomeness. This was a great series and I really hope they do Kizumonogatari.


Well, he can manifest about merely (I repeat, merely) a tenth of his vampire power if he gives Shinobu some of his blood prior (episode 8)... But that's not happening here. And yeah, we want the big guys at SHAFT to announce a Kizumonogatari OVA NOW.

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I- I must rewatch this, I'm seeing good replies.


I'm seeing people calling us bakefags...
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Quite dissappointed :/
It started out so good but later it just went down..

rated it 9/10, don't know if i should 8/10..

Shinobu was nice though


 
Jun 28, 2010 7:38 PM

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Shame on me for not checking this thread first. I ended up seeing part 3 before I saw parts 1&2, and I still haven't seen the very end. That ruined the experience.
 
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Hm, I don't really feel satisfied with the ending... I changed my score from a 10 to a 9.






 
Jun 28, 2010 9:16 PM

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A bit disappointing of an ending but not weak enough to lower my score.

Overall 7/10
 
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I like the parts with the band-aid.
 
Jun 29, 2010 12:47 AM

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Wow, I've been waiting for this episode for a longgg time *eyes sparkle*

The talks between the Cat and Araragi were so powerful. And Shinobu was PURE AWESOMNESS :D

I'm positive I didn't finish the entire episode. I think I'll wait a few more days as I don't believe the entire episode has been subbed yet. If anyone knows a place where I can watch the entire episode subbed, please let me know. =P

For anyone who has seen the entire thing. Can anyone tell me where I am in the episode when Hanekawa is still on the ground after being attacked by Shinobu and tells Araragi to "Be Nice"

Thanks ^^
 
Jun 29, 2010 3:13 AM

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waited for so long for the last episode and I expected better. Due to the long wait for the last two episodes I give it a 9/10
 
Jun 29, 2010 3:16 AM

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Are there 5 parts? Coz there are only 3 released..

When the rosario on her chest is taken off, Moka's vampire inner self awakes.
 
Jun 29, 2010 3:22 AM

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Are there 5 parts? Coz there are only 3 released..


4 parts, sir. And part 4 is released due today, as the subber said.
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Jun 29, 2010 4:23 AM
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I'm confused how pem is releasing the last episode. The names of their files looks something like: Bakemonogatari 15 A part 5-B

Just how many pieces are they breaking up the episode o.o
 
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