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Jun 13, 2010 1:06 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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(If someone wants to discuss the manga, put it under spoilers.)

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OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG, TSUKUMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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Jun 13, 2010 1:13 PM
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Good to see the plot kicking in..
Jun 13, 2010 2:37 PM
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Tsukumo!

At least they showed hospital monitoring equipment in the preview...
Jun 13, 2010 2:56 PM
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.............im speec hless tsukumo cant die please tell me he is still alive
Jun 13, 2010 5:13 PM
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I Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!!
Jun 13, 2010 5:16 PM
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They are really skipping parts of the manga, it's not my impression but it doesn't bother me, I'm not missing what was cut. We are almost in the end of volume 03, just for the records.

I liked this episode, I think things were well explained.

Hotsuma is too cute. I love him so much and I felt sorry for him because he wanted to look for Shuusei and he couldn't.

I'll wait anxiously for the next episode. We're getting closer to my fav part of story <3
Jun 13, 2010 6:30 PM
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Damnit! Why must anime shows always attempt to kill off my favourite characters? D: And why couldn't it have been Toko? She's annoying and useless. Bah. Hopefully Yuki was good for something and his necklace saved Tsukomo.
Jun 13, 2010 7:31 PM
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interesting episode... can't wait to find out what happens next.
Jun 13, 2010 9:05 PM
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First Shuusei, now Tsukumo, they sure do like screwing with the good characters. As stated beforehand, thank god for the heart-rate monitor thing in the preview (I always have to watch the previews twice, once to look at the pictures and another to pay attention to the nonsense from the characters)

But um, what was going on with Yuki and Luka's outfits this week? A turtleneck at a time like this Yuki, seriously? ...
Jun 14, 2010 1:18 AM

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noooo Tsukumo >o<
Jun 14, 2010 6:36 AM

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I am just glad they are starting to show more of the other characters rather than just Yuki and Luka because those two just really get on my nerves lol. Shuusei and Hotsuma are probably my favorite characters.
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Did Ashley really kill Shusei? Is he really dead? Oh, I hope not!! I don't think Tsukomo is dead. I think he's just badly injured. I believe Yuki's charm protected him.
Jun 14, 2010 9:04 AM

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for me this episode was OK,but only OK... maybe the next episode will be better :P
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AnimeMama said:
Did Ashley really kill Shusei? Is he really dead? Oh, I hope not!! I don't think Tsukomo is dead. I think he's just badly injured. I believe Yuki's charm protected him.

I also think that he's just injured ^^
Jun 14, 2010 9:52 AM
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interested episode. I still don't feel the story, I hope there'll be something interesting next week cuz I'm not impressed by this show...

Jun 14, 2010 12:56 PM
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OMG, do they hate my favorite characters or something >.<
First Shuusei that disappeared and now Tsukumo T__T One more cry for Tsukumo so he will be okay.
I don't want him to die T^T I like him .__.
Jun 14, 2010 4:09 PM

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no no no no no NO.

The murder of beautiful bishonens is UNACCEPTABLE. Bring Tsukumo back!

Jun 14, 2010 5:31 PM

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I was supposed to spend today finishing up homework, and instead got sucked in by all the bishies. /SIGH

I'm really loving this series so far. It might be completely overflowing with fanservice and drama, but damn, it does it well. This is also one of the few series where really none of the characters annoy me. I know a lot of people had a problem with Yuki (more so in the beginning, I'm assuming); The series really did start off giving us the impression he was going to be a raging Gary-Stu, but that seems to have lessened a bit. I never had a problem with him in the first place, really, so I've just been sitting back and enjoying it :)

Obviously I'm completely eating up all the shounen-ai "under"-tones, just as the creators intended, but I'm just wondering - why make all these "shounen-ai but not" series when they're obviously attracting BL fans? It's like they're trying to comply with everyone's needs, even people who hate BL, but seriously..if you can't stand shounen-ai, you are not going to be watching (or enjoying) this series. So..why not appease the rest of us and just go ahead and have them kiss already?
(Well, maybe I'm assuming this without enough evidence..I've never read the manga so I have no idea if that will or won't happen. It just seems to give off the same vibes as other series I've seen that ended up never going anywhere in terms of relationships.)

And the drama. Man, there hasn't been a lapse in it since the first episode. I hear the manga has a lot more comedy and light-hearted moments, and I (along with many others, apparently) wish they had kept a little more of it. Still, the sometimes over-the-top..ness doesn't really bother me a lot. Most of it hasn't been too ridiculous.

As for this episode specifically..I refuse to believe either Tsukumo or Shuusei are dead. I really can't see either of them being killed off this early in the series. Still, pretty good episode.
Is it just me, or did the eye that Tsukumo saw (and then wanted to tell everyone who Reiga was) look a lot like Luka's? I mean, I've been assuming Kanata is Reiga..but when I saw that scene I couldn't remember what his eyes looked like.
Hoping to see some more Yuki/Luka scenes in the near future. Luka's been pretty absent as of late.

(Also, Sodom = a black pikachu with wings. I'm sure someone has already said it. But jesus.)
Jun 14, 2010 6:45 PM

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The series isn't even halfway through yet and they're already "killing off" major characters o___O

I hope Yuki actually becomes useful and awesome like they're treating him...(and maybe pull some "revival miracles" or something) otherwise I won't forgive em for killing the two off....
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Jun 14, 2010 7:00 PM

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I still don't think anybody's dead....

Somebody is in the hosptial next week, and my bet is Tsukumo.
Jun 14, 2010 7:10 PM
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Nadistu said:
The series isn't even halfway through yet and they're already "killing off" major characters o___O

I hope Yuki actually becomes useful and awesome like they're treating him...(and maybe pull some "revival miracles" or something) otherwise I won't forgive em for killing the two off....


reincarnation maybe :D since it's the main theme of this serie.

Jun 15, 2010 2:09 AM
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I hated to see how Ashley stabbed Shusei....
Shusei and Hotsuma are way to important at this moment, so I don't think the anime producers will let one of them be killed. I like them both very much:)

And poor Tsukumo... I was suprised he lost the battle.
Jun 15, 2010 7:02 AM

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hum...so many people here are saying Tsukumo is dead...
hum okay guys lets think it this way:
HE wasn't killed.he didnt see him dead did we? he was shot, probably is badly injured, which is different. in the preview we clearly see medical equipment.
do you really think they would kill a main chara already? i dont think so. if he was dead than Yuki´s amulet necklace sucks because it didnt protected him or helped in anything. Which would mean that Yuki is useless:P



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Jun 15, 2010 7:39 AM

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Yeah...I really don't think anyone is dead either. Since last episode ended on Shusei disappearing, and they quickly did away with that thought on this episode, I'll reserve judgment. Still, not a bad episode at all.
Jun 15, 2010 9:53 AM

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if shusei is really dead hotsume wont live on by himself soo he would be gone too
and tsukumo doesnt look alive in the last minutes too me if hes really dead then one of my top three are gone if they will kill hotsuma and luka too i stop watching for sure besides i really totaslly hate reigas=Kanatas voice
Jun 15, 2010 11:53 AM

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Kannei said:
... i really totaslly hate reigas=Kanatas voice

Haha, Ishida Akira is my favourite VA ♥

I personally don't think that Shusei or even Tsukumo are dead.


Anyway the episode was good. The previous one was better, but this one had Reiga in it! (I'm a shallow fangirl) And I'm really curious about Reiga's connection to Takashiro and the whole clan and what happened in the past.
Jun 15, 2010 2:25 PM

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Noooo, Tsukumo!
Ok, I don't think they would kill a major character just like that, but still poor Tsukumo. However he recognized Raiga there, so I wonder when will it be exposed to Yuki~
Jun 16, 2010 6:54 PM

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DarcyD said:
no no no no no NO.

The murder of beautiful bishonens is UNACCEPTABLE. Bring Tsukumo back!


This ^ & ...
is Yuki's charm actually useful?
I saw Tsukumo holding it in the last scenes and expected it to do something magical but I didn't...
I hope it's good for something and heals him :/
Jun 17, 2010 2:37 PM

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yamakasi said:
Damnit! Why must anime shows always attempt to kill off my favourite characters? D: And why couldn't it have been Toko? She's annoying and useless. Bah. Hopefully Yuki was good for something and his necklace saved Tsukomo.


Totally agree. How could the end the episode like that! God my heart is aching.
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Jun 18, 2010 3:26 AM

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First Shusuei, now Tsukumo..:(((
I don't understand why Yuki is so important and they have to sacrifice those two to keep him.It's frustrating.But i really don't think that they are dead, because if they were killed from the 10th episode, the war against the opasts could be as well over.
Jun 19, 2010 9:32 AM

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I don't think those two mains will be killed so early... Perhaps very later somehow.
Tsukumo somehow will survive, perhaps Yuki will heal him or something?
But I doubt if they are both dead.
Jun 22, 2010 1:29 PM

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This episode was made of win. The ending was awesome. I still can't get over how great the visuals are at times.
Jul 4, 2010 10:26 PM

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First Shuusei, now Tsukumo, they sure do like screwing with the good characters.


Exactly. If either of these characters die, that means any other character have the oppurtunity to die, too. Hope it doesn't end up like that..
Jul 6, 2010 10:34 AM

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I am just glad they are starting to show more of the other characters rather than just Yuki and Luka because those two just really get on my nerves lol. Shuusei and Hotsuma are probably my favorite characters.

^

Also, killing off major characters already? o.o Don't think so...the protective charms will turn out to really have protecting power, probably. Or something.

And um, am I the only one that thinks Reiga was Takashiro's Zweilt and is related to Luka? xD
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Jul 13, 2010 4:58 PM

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Good to see the plot kicking in..


Exact same feeling.

Why are all of the main characters getting killed in the middle of the season though?! O.o
I guess Yuki will bring them back somehow or sth...
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Jul 15, 2010 11:13 AM

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God I wish Ashley would just DIE already.

And poor Tsukumo DD: Wtf man...nooo.....I don't think he's dead but...jeez..

Jul 19, 2010 6:46 AM

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nooo Tsukumo, i got such a sad / Bad felling whene i saw he got shot, Tsukumo is my Fav in this show, he cant die. But great episode.
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2 people died its more realistic then everyone staying alive like other series

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Tsukumoooo T.T
Mar 6, 2013 10:11 AM

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why they deviated from the plot?
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Ashley is really annoying but other then that i dont think that either of them id dead though. Hope this turns out to be a good show.

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