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| bruh when Johan woke up suddenly in the hospital i nearly pissed myself. that was easily the scariest moment in this anime thus far and the only time i genuinely jumped a little a happy ending doesn't suit this anime in my opinion. or maybe at least have the happy ending but with nina or johan dead, preferably both. i just can't see Johan being a normal college student, walking around and you know, not killing or manipulating people. i liked the hospital scene the most, i believe that it's true and that it's what Johan wanted to show Tenma. still not bad but i would have liked something a bit more complicated. it would be amazing if lunge was right the entire time about Johan being imaginary and that Tenma was behind everything, although it would be very difficult to pull off without plot holes. anyways....the twins' mother is somehow alive. and apparently they have different names. so that means Nina has 3 names......................and we don't even get to find out! that's the most frustrating thing in this whole entire anime. Johan is apparently not Johan i'll still give it a 9/10 just because there's nothing like it and it definitely kept me entertained and the characters were so amazing and realistic. i'm still a bit picky about a few things that i noticed so i'll deduct a point |
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| if any anime if gonna make me watch more than 70 episodes chances are im gonna give it a ten. i dont have any final words on this series beside i wish they showed the reunion of all the MCs. |
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| so everyone gets a happy ending. Looks like Tenma won't sleep ever again. Pretty much I expected Johan to be in a coma. This was the scariest part in the whole series. I got seriously frightened.  That part in the end, is he really awake. Is Dr Tenma a good way to awaken Johan from his coma? |
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owlpoop said: bruh when Johan woke up suddenly in the hospital i nearly pissed myself. that was easily the scariest moment in this anime thus far and the only time i genuinely jumped a little a happy ending doesn't suit this anime in my opinion. or maybe at least have the happy ending but with nina or johan dead, preferably both. i just can't see Johan being a normal college student, walking around and you know, not killing or manipulating people. i liked the hospital scene the most, i believe that it's true and that it's what Johan wanted to show Tenma. still not bad but i would have liked something a bit more complicated. it would be amazing if lunge was right the entire time about Johan being imaginary and that Tenma was behind everything, although it would be very difficult to pull off without plot holes. anyways....the twins' mother is somehow alive. and apparently they have different names. so that means Nina has 3 names......................and we don't even get to find out! that's the most frustrating thing in this whole entire anime. Johan is apparently not Johan i'll still give it a 9/10 just because there's nothing like it and it definitely kept me entertained and the characters were so amazing and realistic. i'm still a bit picky about a few things that i noticed so i'll deduct a point I don't usually quote someone who commented that long ago but I had to say about that happy ending thingy I really doubt it. I mean Johan wasn't in his bed in the last scene. There's a strong possibility that nothing will happen but this scene makes you overthink. It may be a happy ending for the characters but not for us, nor Tenma I suppose. |
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| Couldn't think of a better reason to end the story while here in Europe. Thrilling tale through to the very end, 10/10. |
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| I was satisfied with the ending 9/10 for the entire series |
| It was ok. Johan faking scary tho. |
Mokey said: At one point Nina "discovers" that Johan has multiple personalities, but this is just never mentioned again. Because it was explained by Gilen to Tenma that that was a complete lie. Johan played with them. Just that, nothing else. False presumption from both Tenma and Nina. Mokey said: Why would Richard down a bottle of whiskey when he was so excited to see his daughter? He tried to convince himself that everything is going well and it really did got well until that point where all his burried regrets were brought back on the surface by Johan. Richard's guilt ended his life. Mokey said: Why would Johan need an apprentice? He obviously doesn't consider the guy a friend. Is he just grooming him to be a useful pawn as a politician? My guess is that he did not had anything to do with the BAby, nor Peter Chapek who were the minds behind the searching for an 'apprentice', 'subsitute' for Johan to model him into their own visions and using him for their own agendas. Johan probably met with them to be close to Peter in order to find out about Franz and keep close eye on his sister's actions. He did not care about his 'double'. It was solely the organizations' wish. Mokey said: When Johan first sees the picture book, he freaks out and it is never clear why he has such a dramatic break in character. Does he regain memories at that point or something? If that is the case, then what the hell was his motivation before seeing the book? He has this breakdown because either he remembered the book and some other fragments of his memory, or just he realized, freaking realized his life was based on a book! His motivation before ending up in Germany with his sister as kids was to run away from the monster (Franz), so he can never get them. Mokey said: It is never really explained why so many powerful people followed Johan's plan to the point of murdering others and we don't know what any of the experiments were for. Several times it was mentioned - making perfect soldiers, creating a dictator even. The events are after the WW2, the Cold War and the Fall of the Berlin Wall. Isn't this enough? Even some of the characters mentioned it a few times. |
JunkYardHiro said: Just finished watching Monster. Great series overall, but one thing has me scratching my head. Why did Johan want to kill himself? I figure he was really upset that his whole excuse for being a psychopath and all was because of his sister's memories (not his). She got her memories mixed with his too afaik and she tried to kill herself... |
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| Enjoyable series. I'm glad that Tenma didn't end up killing anyone throughout the whole series. Still sad that Grimmer died, he was definitely one of my favorite characters. The only gripe I have is the ending. From scanning the discussion, it seems that the general consensus is that Johan killed himself as indicated by the open window. I honestly think that Johan escaped and he'll end up doing what he did before. After acting like he did for so long, just being forgiven doesn't seem like it'd be enough to instantly change him. |
| this was a strong really strong ride of feelings,i cant express what i feel and think in anyway but it is/was and will always be one of a kind... could of been better for me... many things to say but cannot experss |
LouMFeb 1, 2017 6:41 PM
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| great anime, really enjoyed it. It had its weak and nonsense moments, but it got way better towards the end.. especially with the introduction of some very interesting characters like Grimmer and Martin. Tenma was an amazing mc. |
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| Amazing series. I give it a 9.5/10. Some final thoughts about the ending... 1. I dont think Johan will ever kill again because there is no point for him to prove anymore. He wanted Tenma to shoot him to demostrate how saving lifes is not worth it as humans are apparently simply born to die, which in the end didnt happen. I hope he realises he was wrong all this time. Nina also knew this as she wished to have never shoot him when she was asked too. I think she gave up on helping him then, which made Johan think his point was right. 2. I believe knowing the real names is not necessary now, as both Nina and Johan have already build up a life around those names, which will allow people to know and remember them, which was the whole point of having a name. 3. I think there was no real monster in the end, as pretty much every antagonist were just victims of their circumstances. Nobody is born inherently evil, at least it has not been proven posible. I think Johan would have never become the antogonist if there was no experiment in the first place. He would have had a simple life with his family in Prague. Anyway, if there was someone near to be a monster or guilty of everything it is obviously Franz Bonaparta (even himself admitted that, after realising the disastrous outcomes of those experiments). He was the source of all these problems. |
Dr_Manhattan95Mar 2, 2017 12:04 AM
| I think that the scene at the end wasn't a cliffhanger, it was a metaphor of the monster that was living inside of Johan's body that escaped once that Tenma told him his truly real name. The ED credits always were about the nameless monster story and here we can see that he is gone for ever. It felt like Nina is in love with Tenma, yes may be Tenma is 15 years approximately above her but there are cases like that in real life and for me they would make a great couple... they were both so fucking nice always. |
| the real monster was their mother.... DA DA DAAAM. |
| Sonic X is basically an isekai |
| Did this ending differ from the manga? |
| I almost had a heart attack when Johan just stood up out of nowhere, did that conversation between them actually happen or was it all in Tenmas head (I think it was all in his head, Tenma who had studied and pursued Johan so long could imagine what would be one of the remaining torturous things for Johan to have to wonder about)... In retrospect, that episode with the boy who was always wondering around and looking for his mother is pretty important. That episode was titled "The Cruelest Thing" and what I took away from it is that the cruelest thing is to come to "realize" how little/insignificant/unwanted you are. Johan let that boy see for himself the kind of place his mother came from and it destroyed the kid to the point where he was about to throw himself in the water. Johan was probably talking from experience and he wanted others to go through the same pain and turmoil he went through. In that sense, it's interesting how he never killed himself on his own. He always asked someone else to shoot while he drove other people to despair (and suicide) by pressing where it hurts. Johan is Cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs, has been f*cked up in the head ever since his mother decided to choose between him and his sister for the experiment. He felt betrayed by his own mother in the sense that he never knew if his mother had picked him or just mistaken her sister for him. That made him question his own standing in this game we call "Life" if he was trully wanted by his mother or not, After that experience, he started reading the "Monster Without A Name" while being alone in the room and the last page struck him, add to that Anna/Nina stories about what she went through in the mansion "I am YOU, you are ME", hence the dressing him like Anna/Nina too and absorbing all her memories. That was really his first instance of devouring another person and usurping her identity + the Kinderheim 511 experience the Johan we know was born. Got to say though this is one of the best anime I've ever seen, the characters were great the author managed to give every one of them their own unique personality, the plot was so spooky but realistic at the same time I can’t even count the number of plot twists considering how old it is this really was way ahead of its time. Not too sure if I like the ending I wanted Johan to be held accountable for his crimes not escape again but still pretty darn good anime would absolutely watch again. |
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| The long journey is finally come to an end I don't know.. I really don't know The ending is sucks for me Open ending is the worst kind of ending for me :( |
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| A really great anime. I don't know about anyone else but this anime took me on a thrilling journey. I admit some of the episode were kind of slow-paced but it is something a masterpiece need. My favourite character so far was Dieter ofcourse. I lived him as a charecter. He inspires me. Even though he went through such a tough childhood he welcomed the change Tenma gave him and didn't gave up. The ending was excellent, happy but with a molecule of horror. I enjoyed the Anime overall. |
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| This anime is a masterpiece in every way. |
| Enjoyed the series, but I'm left with two major questions. 1. Did Johan actually sit up in the hospital bed and tell the story of his mother choosing between him and Nina? Most people seem to think it actually happened, but the way Tenma gasps and kinda jerks up makes it seem like it was a dream, and Johan is still just in the bed sleeping. 2. Regardles of whether or not #1 actually happened, who did the twins' mother mean to let go and why? It seems unlikely that the mother could've gotten Nina and Johan mixed up because of their voices, but then why did she choose Nina? Earlier in the series I had just assumed Johan ended up at 511 Kinderheim and Nina didn't because he was a boy and the experimenters probably thought a male would make a better "solider." After all, all the children in 511 Kinderheim were male. |
| Finally got around to finishing the series and it was a pleasure to watch. I think this kind of story would translate well if it were made into a live action TV series. |
enlighted3 said: The anime was awesome. I think its called "The Real Monster" just so that you really understand there isn't a real monster. Everyone can be understood by the circumstances surrounding their lives. Johan became all messed up because his mother seemed like she was trying to save one of them, and he didn't know who she was trying to save. So he didn't see every life as being equal. Nina was the one being tortured but she didnt become a monster because she was the only one that knew that Bonaparte told her not to become a monster. The fact that Tenma saved johans life in both cases with and without knowing Johan history and craziness, gave johan peace. That his life is actually worth saving, even though he thought his mother might have been trying to save Nina. In the end I think Tenma got more scared that Johan lived his life not knowing that every life is equal. awesome, thx for d4t. -xdfp |
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| Excellent series. It's not so common to find such a good and mature story. I hope I find more anime like this one in the future. Cheers! |
| This was very good with a complex narrative and one of the best villains in any story I have witnessed. The pacing dragged on a lot at points though so I can't give it anything more than an 9/10. Still it's going into my favourites. |
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| One of the most rewarding anime shows (or any kind of show) I've seen. Well worth sitting through 74 episodes. |
| Honestly, this show left a bitter taste in my mouth with it's ending. Leaving major plot points as ambigious really didn't work well with a show like this compared to say, Serial Experiments Lain where it's abstrusity and tendency to leave plot points to viewers interpretation was one of the factors that made the experience so much more fulfilling for me. But in this case it really could use more explanation, at least in my opinion. For instance we don't know what Johan's motives were for any action he did prior to Ruhenheim massacre, the reason why Anna wanted to kill herself along with his brother, the sudden and unwarranted change in many of the bad guys (General Wolfe, Peter Capek, Franz Bonaparta) just to name a few. When all of these pile up with it's abrupt ending it doesn't feel rewarding at all. In fact it doesn't even feel like an ending. I do have many good things to say about the show of course. With it's huge and equally great cast of characters (well mostly at least), the seemingly simple yet very intricate plot structure it had, constant suspense the show maintained throughout most of it's run, the enjoyment of seeing the beloved characters we're attached to gradually wrapping their heads around what his new action will be.. These are all commendable to say the least. But as I said the complaints I had doesn't allow me to give this show anything higher than a 7. This is a rare instance where a show I was so dissatisfied with it's ending I'm inclined to give a score that high. So yeah, a 7/10 Edit from 14.08.2018: This opinion is partially outdated. But I'll keep it as it is just for the record. |
Auron_Aug 13, 2018 4:50 PM
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| Lunge found himself a friend and he died...poor grimmer. I wonder what would have happened if he met Roberto. |
| Not sure what to say, the ending was... interesting. All in all, 9/10. |
| Monster is seriously one of the best anime ever! 9/10 When I watched the first episode, I was reluctant to continue due to the boring-looking art style. None of the characters seemed interesting to me so I decided to just stop at that. I gotta say, I'm so glad I picked it up after a year or so. Seeing a kind-hearted soul like Tenma lost everything he worked for, just because he chose to save a young boy on the brink of death is saddening. This and the fact that the seemingly "innocent" boy turned out to be a serial killer made me stayed for the rest of the episodes. |
| A very thought-provoking and entertaining anime. Interesting choice to leave Johan's fate open like that. It seems the the mother and her choice to send Nina to the Red Rose Mansion is what really created Johan or at least his thinking that not all lives are equal. I know Johan is the main draw but side characters like Eva, Lunge, and Grimmer really elevate this show - they're all so interesting and have complete character arcs.The start of the final episode provided some satisfying closure for those side characters. Eva is no longer an alcoholic and has moved on from her obsession with Tenma which she talks about but is also symbolised by her giving Reichwein the notebook. Part of me hoped Tenma and Eva would reconcile and rekindle their relationship but its pretty obvious from early on in the show that they were never compatible so its probably for the best. Also glad to see Lunge get promoted and also get in touch with his daughter. I really thought he'd end up dead due to being so obsessed with the Johan case but his confrontation with Roberto (the mega douche) showed he still greatly cared for his family so his happy ending didn't totally blindside me. Also really great to see how excited Dieter and Nina are about Tenma returning. Really hammers home how many lives he was able to change for the better even though he was trying to murder a man. Regardless of the open ending, I think the ending is still very satisfying especially regarding the Tenma/Johan dichotomy. Johan always did feel like a ghost throughout the entire series so the empty hospital bed might actually be an appropriate ending. To be honest, as far as main characters go I though Tenma was pretty meh (preferred those side characters I mentioned more) but I guess it was interesting to see him fight within himself regarding killing Johan and his own personal ideals, a hypocrisy his called out on frequently. In the end Tenma won though as both of Johans original and new plans failed and Tenma proves the all lives are equal by saving Johan for the second time. Overall a really great series, , perhaps slow at times, but ultimately rewarding. 9/10 |
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| I honestly dunno where to start and I also don't want to spend about an hour writing a wall of text, so I'm gonna keep it brief. Monster has been one of the best experiences I've had with this medium. It didn't have a strong emotional impact on me compared to other favorites of mine nor was it a gamechanger, but it was incredibly captivating with flawless execution in many departments. Starting with the atmosphere, the very beginning already set the right tone for a psychological/mystery thriller, the directing, the OST's and especially the opening. Those aspects really enhanced the already well crafted foundation consisting of story and pacing. Speaking of which, I often heard that the pacing of Monster would be slow at times, even tediously slow according to some. Fortunately not for me, as far as I'm concerned it was perfectly paced. It's extremely rare to find a series with an overarching plot where a necessary amount of time is dedicated in order to flesh out side plots that tied in neatly into the bigger picture. To top it off, I honestly enjoyed every single episode and almost all supporting characters a lot, which is kinda amazing for 74 episodes. But that's no surprise with such a great cast of characters, even the ones that weren't always likeable were still fascinating to watch due to top tier characerization. Big props to Urasawa for creating such a masterpiece and Madhouse for doing excellent when it came to the adaptation. Wanted to go with a 9 at first, but the finale has been so spectacular that I'm willing to give a 10. |
FMmatronJan 3, 2019 4:33 PM
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| And the series ended leaving behind so many questions unanswered. And so johan escaped again, good job not killing him. Overall was a good series. 7/10. |
Light-Yagami-GodFeb 28, 2019 6:53 PM
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| The ending was actually good, I love endings that leave you with questions. I have never watched anything like this before, I enjoyed the show thoroughly a lot. |
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| Seeing Johan suddenly sitting up again... my heart almost stopped.. Calling this a masterpiece is a understatement. This anime has an even deeper meaning and that is ''Every life is equal'' I also think Johan commited suicide because, in the book there was one of the monsters that got eaten and this is how the book ends.' 'Even though he had finally found a name, there was no one around to call him by it.'' He knows his names but no one cares anymore because of all the crimes he commited. The real question which cannot be answered; Who was the real monster?? Story 10/10 |
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