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Curses and magic being untreatable by medicine. A minor cliche I dislike

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Jul 1, 9:38 AM
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Untreatable illnesses, where someone goes to a hospital for a magic spell or a curse and the hospital can't do anything. Just a minor trope I always find annoying


Yu-Gi-Oh for example did this with the battle city arc, Mai is put I'm a coma nh shadow magic and the on site doctors can't treat her

Please Teacher, the mc has a fainting disease that causes him to go into a coma and it's apparently untreatable by not only our medical technology but even alien tech cannot fix it

Does this annoy anyone else
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Jul 1, 9:46 AM
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I think stakes would be lower if curses could be treated as easily as colds.
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Jul 1, 9:53 AM
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I don't think curses actually exist. Prove me wrong.
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Jul 1, 10:36 AM
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The whole point of those illnesses being magical is that they are beyond the reach of science. If they are only a more complex state of health, treatable by more complex scientific methods, the difference between magic and science is not one of kind but only of degree; curses cease to be supernatural, just like advanced medicine is not supernatural, "unless super is taken merely as a superlative prefix," as the guy said.
It's like saying that a magically sealed box cannot be opened by brute force, unless you apply enough brute force. I mean, it's fine if you don't want any magical elements in a story, but if you accept magic in a story, you can't go asking it not to be magical.
(Some people like to repeat the mantra "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" because a famous SF author said it, but that is BS or at least a gross misapplication: it is not a statement about the nature of magic and science, but about human perception and understanding.)

Jul 1, 10:38 AM
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I don't think magic actually exist. Prove me wrong.
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Jul 1, 10:58 AM
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I think it makes sense. I the reason for the illness is a magic then there shouldnt be a "scientific" cure to it. Maybe it can slow it down (I like this), but in order to solve it you must break the spell.
Jul 1, 11:52 PM
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I mean, I do see where you're coming from with that. Though I would imagine it being a lot less epic if we went down the doctor route. Imagine if Dragon Ball didn't have those sensu beans and instead Goku had to go to the free clinic. XD
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"Curses and magic being untreatable by medicine. A minor cliche I dislike"

ok



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Jul 5, 8:26 AM
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You're not alone Block, this trope has been raising my eyebrows and rolling my eyes for decades. It’s that anime move where’s a mysterious issue that no doctor, priest, or intergalactic Alien can fix… because the plot needs to Keep moving. If it were curable, the story would lose its tension or romantic urgency.
Jul 5, 8:28 AM

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I mean, I do see where you're coming from with that. Though I would imagine it being a lot less epic if we went down the doctor route. Imagine if Dragon Ball didn't have those sensu beans and instead Goku had to go to the free clinic. XD
@Retro8bit yea goku got infected by virus and did kick the bucket,sensu beans didn't do anything. That's what future trunks came to inform everyone.
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Actually medicines are ineffective. You can cure yourself without medicine.
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Jul 5, 11:53 AM

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"cliche I dislike"

But this is the whole point of a curse - to repeatedly disrupt the natural healing cycle...said cycle being the foundation of medicine.
Hating the curses as narrative element is disliking supernatural stories to begin with.
OP should just avoid those?

The logic is pretty simple. For illnesses you need a doctor and for curses you need a witchdoctor. The good old "Skulls for the Scull God, blood for the Blood God." thing.


"Yu-Gi-Oh for example did this with the battle city arc, Mai is put I'm a coma nh shadow magic and the on site doctors can't treat her"

Sounds more like the OP actually hates the plot poison trope instead.



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Jul 5, 11:57 AM

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Medicine is full of untreatable illnesses without magic. Imagine randomly trying to cure cancer or aids. Medicine is not even aware what is wrong with them suffering from curses and magic, they might be able to deal with symptoms like putting the person in a CPAP.
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But... how are qualifed doctors supposed to manage curses and magic? It's not like every doctor is Stephen Strange.

The solution is to have either magical doctors or use normal illnesses.
Jul 5, 2:51 PM
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Well, if the curses or magic is treatable by medicine or doctors then it's no curse nor magic...it's a disease or wound.



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Jul 5, 3:56 PM

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TheBlockernator said:
Does this annoy anyone else
Not really, the premise is that for instance, some of these characters don't have any symptoms that should be obvious to a doctor, cause they are literally magic. What could a doctor due but put them on life support?

I don't see how you would want them to write that better? I guess you could have Domino City's equivalent of Dr. House coming in lol? Not like he could fix it.
Jul 5, 6:37 PM

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that's not a trope. medicine is science, and magic is not. to treat magical issues, you go to someone who is versed in magic. why would a doctor in a hospital know anything about magic? your suggestion makes zero sense. and how would they treat it? would the doctors be spellcasters themselves and be able to decurse someone?

you don't go to the hospital if you need a priest.

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