Global Anime Fans Want Stronger Female Leads & Adult Protagonists, New Research Finds

@issac9006 it would be preferential. Yes.

Why make them ugly?

>Global fandom
In short, it's American zoomers. More on news at 11.
>Crunchyroll
Oh, it's zoomers who don't know to torrent or, you know, just use free sites because they're straight up better than Crunchyroll.
Still, more on news at 11.

Who said anything about need? It's about want, we can wants lots of things, without people melting down and thinking anime is ending. Also funny this is about anime being for Japan and Japan only however, the term jap is very much a slur in an English context lol.

You have said data? Plus how is that data reliable? Way more people repress their sexuality due to a variety of reasons, and Asia is very socially conservative. I know I have done surveys where I answered straight when I wasn't. No one is saying, BL/GL need to be super mainstream, however, I do think the market is kinda underserved in terms of adaptions compared to how many manga are out there. That does show that you probably could see a few more successful works, than are out there.

You have spoken to everyone? I think there are a lot of people who would say they enjoyed their 20s and 30s over their teens. It's variable. Your youth, especially for kids in Japan is also pretty boring lol. Everything is idealized, who is to say we can't idealize adulthood either? We do that often in the West. Anime does it too.

Personally, I don't mind teen MCs however, I am starting to feel done with school settings. Teen MCs actually tend to be more a factor in rom coms or SOL shows in contributing to some disinterest, unless they really nail that setting. Yeah I am getting older, maybe I should continue to care about anime less. Still would works like Planetes, Spice and Wolf, Mushishi or Barakamon be really bad for the industry?

Literally when people talk about this, it's largely young adults, wanting young adult characters and not teens. People in their 20s.

Also the medium could actually use more interesting age variety. Works like March Comes in Like a Lion, have shown with their side plots, how you could do a lot with an older MC. Showa Rakugo had a very compelling story, with an older MC.

Modern moe is hardly good compared to anime MILFs but you do you.

Most popular rom coms in the West feature young adults....how is it easier? It's all idealized anyway, if anything adult characters should have more freedom, depending on what you idealize them as compared to teens. So yeah explain lol. Adult characters, often don't match their ages in anime anyway, so that literally hasn't stopped anyone. It's not like most anime characters, portray teens realistically either, so I don't' get your point.

....So basically what the OP argued, because they are equally generalizing Western fiction? If we only used great works to judge entire mediums, everything would look amazing. I am considering the aggregate, not the standout, and largely male characters fair better.

There are lots of well written female characters......anime still could do better. I am sorry that I think the anime industry can improve and isn't perfect.

This is literally a feature in every economy lol. That is why you need a balance of power in society where people infight, and a decent adherence to labor laws. Sorry to tell you deg, most "Socialist/Communist" societies have had many cases of abusing workers too. Plus China succeeding doesn't really prove much, as they are basically a State Capitalist state at this point.

You would have to go back to unironic hunter gather societies to find economies that don't have significant economic exploitation driving them.

@WaterMage I agree with you that, anime does have some strong and well written strong female characters- maomao from kusuriya, and so are characters like motoko kusanagi, san, and balsa. But that doesn’t mean other industries or cultures are incapable of writing complex women.

Also, diversity, whether in race, age, or gender identity, isn’t the enemy of good storytelling. It’s just representation, and it doesn’t automatically make something “trash.” Anime itself is becoming more inclusive too, look at shows like Wonder Egg Priority, Banana Fish, Yuri on Ice, or Doukyuusei, all featuring lgbtq+ characters or themes.

As for "racial equality", dismissing it with “Japanese are white” is just factually wrong. Japan is a racially homogenous country, yes, but Japanese people are not “white,” nor do they identify that way. And inserting a Black or foreign character thoughtfully doesn’t ruin a story. Carole from Carole & Tuesday are great characters who enriched their stories, not token gestures.

Escapism doesn’t have to come at the cost of empathy or inclusion and mature stories, whether about teenagers or older people- can coexist. anime's strength is its range, from youthful slice-of-life to deeply reflective seinen and jousei.

Gatekeeping anime based on race, age, or identity just limits what it can be. But the beauty of anime is that it’s for everyone.

The Yakuza's Guide to Babysitting there is a character that is clearly a gay friend of the main character. Skip and Loafer there clearly was a trans woman in it. While it was BL bait My New Boss is Goofy had an openly bisexual male character, the other characters only act gay for eachother but they even joked in the show they are straight. Dekiru Neko wa Kyou mo Yuuutsu is just a slice of life and had an unexpected crush from a bisexual girl. Paradox Live had a trans femme character. In Tomo-chan is a Girl it had girls crushing on her. In Kinokoinu there is a guy who has a crush on the main male character. This season Kowloon Generic Romance has various different queerness in it. If you arent just being disingenuous you either can't read obvious cues without characters announcing "im gay" or "im a trans woman/man" or aren't watching enough variety of anime. Apparently Japanese people dont go around announcing to everyone using labels they are gay or trans and when someone does they think it's weird, so it would be out of place for characters to act like current year Westerners going on and on about how gay or trans they are.


Nope, everything is just a distraction including what you believe. Birth rate decline is not in any way a bad thing, in fact population is still increasing even when a country has a birth rate decline. The rates tend to decline because of the high cost of living and having a kid and from generally not being under stress that their kid might die any day none of that garbage you made up. Just look at South Korea they have the lowest maternity rate on the planet and they are extremely family based and hung up on Neo Confucianism to point a gender war broke out there. There even has recently been a study suggestion there may be billions more people on the planet than previously thought because they underestimated people in rural areas, so the world has potentially like 10.5 billion people already.



^ this

I am worried at least some people in the poll are somehow incapable of recognizing strength if it isn't some aggressive and extremely proactive version of it.

Plus the poll ha sno indication of what qualifies them to be an "anime fan". A good number are probably completely casual and have only seen Kimetsu no Yaiba or My Hero Academia or something else but not really watch much overall and thus have no idea what they are talking about.

Nothing good comes from forcing certain audience demands into fruition unless they arent anything that has impact on story and aesthetics and especially not if it is some people who dont actually like anime just happen to like a few things and dont really engage in the community.



That is part of it. There is more anime than anyone can watch and a lot goes unnoticed or easily forgotten. So it isn't just about demand but also impact and quality issues. Throwing a bunch of similar things out there at once is just a terrible idea in terms of business and bad for artistic value not giving more freedom try and focus on good storytelling and animation that can build a long lasting fan base



Only one really doing that which stands out is Lazarus. Of course Japanese people are prone to care about the environment and climate change with their culture and being an island nation with extreme weather so they face it but the narrative feels so flawed in how it is portrayed. I am not sure if this is intentional or just bad influence from current Western media.

You know that Banana Fish is based on a manga from 40 years ago?

@Lucifrost yeah, i know that now from you. thnx for the information :p

You say that adults have more freedom, but what do you mean by freedom? I'm not arguing that a particular genre and setting matter, but I think, for example, in modern Japan, teenagers and children have much more opportunities to show certain things, as it was in Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!. Young people and children are often more down-to-earth and dreamy than boring adults, which gives some space for some topics.

@nirererin When yuri and BL were first in their heyday, LGBTQ themes were considered something of a marginal, complex topic for oscar-bait in Western media. There is absolutely nothing new about this. When Sailor Moon openly introduced queer characters in the 90s, Western TV or reactionary viewers actively censored it or tried to deny it as something unbelievable.

@RobertBobert True, anime was normalizing queer themes way before the West caught up, sailor moon did it in the ’90s while Western media was still censoring it.

@issac9006 it would be preferential. Yes.

Why make them ugly?

@derangedx29 Ok but then lets make the Doom Slayer a 60kgs bishonen, nobody likes gym bros, they're ugly. Why make the Doom Slayer ugly? Oooooh wait, it's because power fantasy something something, gamers don't care about being sexy. Then... Isn't that a good reason to do the same with some female characters?

Bro really tried to pretend his basic instincts and feelings were logical/reasonable with that "why make them ugly?" question lmfao. Isn't that what you guys call "being a Karen"?

@Deathko One might wonder what this has to do with the intentionally faceless Doomguy, who is literally supposed to represent the player and therefore canonically had no personality until Dark Ages, but who cares, lmao? By the same logic, you might recall Alien's Ripley, which deliberately represents a maximally ordinary woman who is faced with cosmic horror.

@RobertBobert Wow so because that character is faceless it's okay to make him look like a 130kgs gymbro on steroids, gotcha.
Then I have a suggestion. Lets have a faceless Crash/Doomgirl be the next protagonist. She needs to be 120 kgs of muscle and have biceps the size of your torso. That's fine, right, because faceless self-insert protagonist yada yada.

And yeah, I agree, Ripley didn't need to look like a Playboy model because he worth is in her deeds and not her ass. She's also like, the most androgynous person ever. Remind me why you guys want every female video game character to look like a pornstar, already? Remind me why you keep crying that "women look like men I'm being gayified by videogames raaaaah!"?

Literally murdering your own side of the argument with that Alien example, I don't even have to lift a finger.

@Deathko I don't know why you have such an obsession with Doomguy, but the dude is literally an absurdized hypermasculine fantasy for male gamers. I understand that you are most likely just trying to bait people, but this is an extremely poor argument for this debate, seriously.

And yes, of course, "we" all want all female characters to look like porn actresses. Are you so desperate that you throw around generic labels before anyone has even hinted at something like that? However, why are you writing anything here at all if you have already declared yourself the winner?

@RobertBobert Yeah yeah yeah. Reminder: this character looks like a man and is trying to gayify you.



Gamers are a bunch of clowns 😭

It's not the same. Want is "it would be nice if anime did y, but I can still enjoy it regardless. Need is, "anime industry isn't doing y, I am losing or have lost interest." Those people aren't spending money on CR.

Well one, not the best person to ask, since I rarely relate to most characters in fiction. Regardless, I will be frank, as someone who is Western/white it is cool when I do see Japan make anime, that use those cultural ideas, stories etc present in my culture....on the other hand it can be annoying when it's poorly done (see more Western inspired isekai). Still there is a level of appreciation there that is nice. I really enjoy Rococo fashion/art, so when you learn about lolita fashion, that is kinda cool.

I can imagine other people would feel the same if anime got inspiration from their culture, background or people. Now, since anime has repeatedly dug into Western history, culture and stories to develop anime, TBH, I don't care as much, since it's more normalized, though I wouldn't be shocked others who aren't as represented would appreciate it more if they did get more works featuring them.

I don't see how that goes too...."I can't empathize with anyone besides those that look at me" though.

I don't see how recognizing that LGBT people exist is "brainwashing". We can talk about a variety of issues, that people can have differences on. I know I am not uncritically supportive of every "LGBT issue" however, when people talk about brainwashing it's not about people in sports, or when people can put hormones in their body, it's often just recognizing this is something natural, and harmless.

People in their 20s are still very youthful lol.

The medium is incredibly YA dominated....it's never going to change to that degree.

I mean those are shows that feature adult protags, in SOL settings. so if those shows became more dominant would it be bad? Because that's pretty much the only thing being asked here.

Because the people who watch anime tend to be around that age? Also, at the end of the day, the vast majority of stories, in gaming, books, TV shows whatever, feature MCs usually in early adulthood or teenage life, because that is when you go through the most development in life. Other mediums have more age range, and demographic variety, than anime, however, this fact is still true.



Economic freedom, personal freedom etc. I mean you bring up Chuunibyou, great show however, it's still exaggerating what HS life is. You could literally do that with adult characters, and just have Rikka be a burnt out office worker, looking for fun and imagination again, and it would be a good story. Different sure, however, it's one that you could still idealize, and still use to promote escapism (though that series is literally all about accepting growing up, so not pure escapism).



You are talking to a right wing populist, you aren't going to get through to him. Also work is a factor however, the reality is that kids are expensive, people are enjoying the good life, and to have kids means to sacrifice. People used to work way more than they do now, and they had more kids. In the days, before social safety nets, people needed kids for retirement, or to take over the family business and provide for their parents, that is less the case now. Everyone, expects your kids need to complete some extra form of education, which increases expense. Plus, people just have more to distract themselves with, and an increase access to stuff like porn or birth control, is reducing the need for people to take on risky behaviors.

Anyway, his viewpoint is wrong, because even in super religious societies, where being gay is outlawed, like Iran, they are facing significant demographic decline. Plus LGBT can produce kids, bi people still often hook up in straight relationships, lesbians can, and do have kids. While probably lower on average, the reality is these people were often just confirmed bachelors or spinsters, of the past.

Pretty much.

I mean it doesn't have to addressed directly to you, this was the last "gamer controversy"....and yeah once again demonstrating why I have distanced myself from a lot of this shit, despite originally being sympathetic to some "gate" movements. Most on the anti SJW culture war side, have over time proven most of their critics right.

It's not the same. Want is "it would be nice if anime did y, but I can still enjoy it regardless. Need is, "anime industry isn't doing y, I am losing or have lost interest." Those people aren't spending money on CR.

Well one, not the best person to ask, since I rarely relate to most characters in fiction. Regardless, I will be frank, as someone who is Western/white it is cool when I do see Japan make anime, that use those cultural ideas, stories etc present in my culture....on the other hand it can be annoying when it's poorly done (see more Western inspired isekai). Still there is a level of appreciation there that is nice. I really enjoy Rococo fashion/art, so when you learn about lolita fashion, that is kinda cool.

I can imagine other people would feel the same if anime got inspiration from their culture, background or people. Now, since anime has repeatedly dug into Western history, culture and stories to develop anime, TBH, I don't care as much, since it's more normalized, though I wouldn't be shocked others who aren't as represented would appreciate it more if they did get more works featuring them.

I don't see how that goes too...."I can't empathize with anyone besides those that look at me" though.

I don't see how recognizing that LGBT people exist is "brainwashing". We can talk about a variety of issues, that people can have differences on. I know I am not uncritically supportive of every "LGBT issue" however, when people talk about brainwashing it's not about people in sports, or when people can put hormones in their body, it's often just recognizing this is something natural, and harmless.

People in their 20s are still very youthful lol.

The medium is incredibly YA dominated....it's never going to change to that degree.

I mean those are shows that feature adult protags, in SOL settings. so if those shows became more dominant would it be bad? Because that's pretty much the only thing being asked here.

Because the people who watch anime tend to be around that age? Also, at the end of the day, the vast majority of stories, in gaming, books, TV shows whatever, feature MCs usually in early adulthood or teenage life, because that is when you go through the most development in life. Other mediums have more age range, and demographic variety, than anime, however, this fact is still true.



Economic freedom, personal freedom etc. I mean you bring up Chuunibyou, great show however, it's still exaggerating what HS life is. You could literally do that with adult characters, and just have Rikka be a burnt out office worker, looking for fun and imagination again, and it would be a good story. Different sure, however, it's one that you could still idealize, and still use to promote escapism (though that series is literally all about accepting growing up, so not pure escapism).



You are talking to a right wing populist, you aren't going to get through to him. Also work is a factor however, the reality is that kids are expensive, people are enjoying the good life, and to have kids means to sacrifice. People used to work way more than they do now, and they had more kids. In the days, before social safety nets, people needed kids for retirement, or to take over the family business and provide for their parents, that is less the case now. Everyone, expects your kids need to complete some extra form of education, which increases expense. Plus, people just have more to distract themselves with, and an increase access to stuff like porn or birth control, is reducing the need for people to take on risky behaviors.

Anyway, his viewpoint is wrong, because even in super religious societies, where being gay is outlawed, like Iran, they are facing significant demographic decline. Plus LGBT can produce kids, bi people still often hook up in straight relationships, lesbians can, and do have kids. While probably lower on average, the reality is these people were often just confirmed bachelors or spinsters, of the past.

Pretty much.

I mean it doesn't have to addressed directly to you, this was the last "gamer controversy"....and yeah once again demonstrating why I have distanced myself from a lot of this shit, despite originally being sympathetic to some "gate" movements. Most on the anti SJW culture war side, have over time proven most of their critics right.

this is becoming heated with the topic of uglification of fictions like in games dang

just be civil but ye i know some user here cannot argue properly without playing the victim card again and again thats why i rarely engage with that user now a days

@Swyzen
He means adults have money and live independently. Anime teens may often live without parents, but that's not realistic. Many existing anime would have more believable stories if their characters were aged up just a few years, even if nothing else were changed.

Outside of being an old anime snob, which in of itself isn't trolling, how is Deathko overly toxic? All she is doing is pointing out that especially of late, the outrage from certain movements is hardly valid, by bringing up certain examples.

If you think their viewpoint isn't valid refute it. I have talked to said poster many times, and I have found that conversation is pointless there. I mean it's a fair critique to point out I dismissed someone for their political views however, really I don't interact based on more personal interaction. You can feel the same with Deathko, or me if you wish. Up to you. You don't owe me attention, I don't owe him attention etc.

I am not a leftist for the record. I know the world has gotten so politically extremist, that people may assume that holding x view means you agree with everything else, but again I am not a leftist. There are a lot of very big wedge issues, that stop me from identifying with that label. I used to be sympathetic to "anti SJW movements". So yeah, my critique is larging coming from someone that used to uncritically support a lot of these people. I used to be an anime fan that feared "western influence". I mean I still do have a lot of issues with some "left wing" writing... I just think most of the people criticizing that stuff are frankly idiots, as well and have really gone off on some major political tirades, that I never supported.

What is she saying that is trolling? Plus, these conversations never produce good faith nuanced convos, I am just stooping to what those that whine about Western media/influence do. You are also arguing in B/W terms too.

People are so going towards the far left too. This isn't happening because someone is acting a certain way on social media lol. There are a lot of social/economic factors in the world that are promoting radicalism, that is all.

I am openly antagonistic to people who turned Ciri's design in Witcher 4 into a controversy...yes. I am tired of idiots that think women always need to be attractive. I support guys to lewd, and draw pin ups, however, I support the right to do that. I don't expect nor would I ask or want every female character in gaming/media to look like some K-Pop model. That is boring.

@BilboBaggins365 How toxic is a person who openly trolled me, mocking how she easily destroyed the absurd theses, which I never expressed? If you consider such troll scarecrows and intentional bait to be valid worthy arguments, then you are really no better than her. And I refuted all of this pretty quickly and easily, because it's not even an argument, it's an argument for the sake of an argument. But you seem to have no problem agreeing with it just because their trolling fits your narrative. In that case, how are you any better than the "anti woke crowd" that you so condemn for their toxicity and stubbornness? By agreeing with the trolls' absurd takes, you literally represent what you're trying to attribute to them.

People are different, you know? And even if we ignore the fact that people have a reason for reacting reflexively to any attempt to make female characters less beautiful, generalizing entire groups of people and dividing the world into black and white, you are no better than the people you are trying to judge. Seriously, man. You are trying to judge the people who created drama because Ciri was made less beautiful, but at the same time you unironically support the troll who attacks me for trying to explain that Doomguy is an impersonal masculine fantasy and the debate about the attractiveness of characters to the opposite sex has little to do with him.

You say it like I said it. I never even mentioned Gamergate or the word woke until you and Deathko tried to blame me for it to give me a guilt complex. And now you're complaining about radical ideas or excessive antagonism in society? I don't know if you're doing this sincerely or intentionally, but damn man, this is some level of lighthouse projection.

@deg Thank you, deg. I love you too. We both know that you intentionally left that comment to get my attention, but pretend you didn't mean it.

Some of these comments reading back are quite horrible ngl.

If new anime is made with more strong female leads, more lgbt focus, .... and you don't like it, then don't watch it. Don't need to out yourself as a bigot, grow up.

Explain how it's trolling? She responded to a poster, claiming women need to always be beautiful by flipping the argument on it's head. Do male characters need to always be attractive? That isn't bait. It might be highly sarcastic however, it's a valid point. I haven't seen where you invalidated this point. You jumped into that argument...and that is all she is responding too.
Well I never said I was better. We all have our flaws after all.
Nah I mostly make fun of them for their ideas, and victimhood. If people want to be toxic, I will respond in kind, though I never instigate, and anytime we talk about Western fans desires, dubs, or any possible Western influence in the industry, which has been a thing since it's conception, certain posters always use it as an opportunity to go after certain groups. That isn't good faith, and you don't have a right to cry victim, when you encourage that environment. I don't see how I am saying anything that is toxic though. Literally all I said was don't bother posting to someone, who obviously just hates LGBT people due to his views. It's not a rational debate. This one can be.
Well lucky we can judge different circumstances, and to determine if one case is valid or not. In my opinion, I feel this paranoia in many recent cases, or in this industry isn't valid. It has been valid in maybe some cases, though not here.
You are literally trying to make this into a B/W argument with me lol. Maybe try and empathize and see my POV? I have done the same, and conceded I understand why people have some of these views. I just think it's way too overboard, and overly cited compared to how often it is an issue.
Yes cause that is a dipshit assertion, often made by people who have no right to bodyshame anyway.
Yeah, so why can't there be a female doom guy, that isn't attractive? That's is all Deathko is asserting, because she is going after an unreasonable position.
Cool that is what she is responding to, you are inserting yourself into that convo, so that is what the topic is about.
Yes I think the Witcher 4 controversy is absurd, and the original point of view that female characters need to be attractive is dumb....that is my full support.
What is radical about thinking all female characters don't need to be attractive?

@pigdestroyer ?

Anime already has such aspects so I have no idea of what you're falsely accusing Anime fans of being bigots when tourists don't even watch Anime and/or want to radically change Anime. Please respect Anime fans and Anime creators.

@BilboBaggins365 Do I really have to explain how making scarecrows, gaslighting, reducing to absurdity and outright provocation are trolling? Like when someone makes a counterargument to you and you troll them in response by attributing to them a position reduced to absurdity that they never even thought of. If you actually think that's a valid argument, then dude, that's a really bad sign.

And if you don't stop breaking down my comments into literal sentences, picking apart my thoughts and forcing me to write you 100500 responses instead of one, I will simply stop responding to you at all. You literally tear my comments into tiny pieces and require me to reread them all in order to respond, it's infuriating. Really.

UPD. Oh yeah, I read your comment further. You're literally defending labels abuse and gaslighting. Sorry dude, I have no desire to interact with morally corrupt people who try to pretend to be saints while defending trolls and justifying any toxic behavior as long as it fits their narrative. Continue to live in a black and white world where the same things can be a valid position or absurd depending on whether your friends or opponents use it.

@ToumaTachibana It's like the lack of complaints about the incredibly sexualized and idealized male characters in shoujo. People think that all this works exclusively for everyone else, but not for them. So if you're constantly arguing that the female characters don't live up to your standards in shows that aren't for you and don't have the focus you want, then you don't need to grow up and move on.

Kay....I do it so you know what every word is responding to. Still you can just not respond to me.

That's a bit dramatic lol

I would look in the mirror.

@ToumaTachibana That's why I said more, maybe re-read what you're replying to?

Y'all are seeing this topic as 'People want to change all of anime', no it's MORE.

Thinking this stance of 'accusing Anime fans', as if you speak for everyone.

@pigdestroyer Like I said, Anime already has such aspects (strong female leads, lgbt characters and adult characters) you are mentioning, authors shouldn't be forced to do things they don't want. If they want, its fine but no outside forces can force them to do such things. My opinion is similar to the average Anime fan, some want less Anime from certain genres, some want more but no one want MORE things of what its already here. We're here to watch Anime, we're here since we are attracted to Anime unique characteristics which they cannot be replicated in other animated media since it won't felt the same. Also I've watched more than 2500 Anime, I know Anime and their story like the palm of my hand at this point, I have experience in the medium and I know what I am saying it. Of course, I speak for a lot of Anime fans. We just watch Anime for entertainment, we don't watch Anime solely for the stuff you're pushing it.

The real question why do you want more despite they already a lot of what you are mentioning? Do u even care about the story/characters or solely care about the gender/sexual orientation/race of the character? We are alarmed by outsiders calling us a lot of names over the years (bigots, racists, etc) so your comment raises a lot of alarms casually throwing false accusations despite I read the thread and people (from what I read) defending Anime in this thread are not saying anything could be considered as "bigot" so I have no idea of what are you talking about.

@pigdestroyer Like I said, Anime already has such aspects (strong female leads, lgbt characters and adult characters) you are mentioning, authors shouldn't be forced to do things they don't want. If they want, its fine but no outside forces can force them to do such things. My opinion is similar to the average Anime fan, some want less Anime from certain genres, some want more but no one want MORE things of what its already here. We're here to watch Anime, we're here since we are attracted to Anime unique characteristics which they cannot be replicated in other animated media since it won't felt the same. Also I've watched more than 2500 Anime, I know Anime and their story like the palm of my hand at this point, I have experience in the medium and I know what I am saying it. Of course, I speak for a lot of Anime fans. We just watch Anime for entertainment, we don't watch Anime solely for the stuff you're pushing it.

The real question why do you want more despite they already a lot of what you are mentioning? Do u even care about the story/characters or solely care about the gender/sexual orientation/race of the character? We are alarmed by outsiders calling us a lot of names over the years (bigots, racists, etc) so your comment raises a lot of alarms casually throwing false accusations despite I read the thread and people (from what I read) defending Anime in this thread are not saying anything could be considered as "bigot" so I have no idea of what are you talking about.

No you don't, you can only speak for yourself, unless you are officialy mandated by "a lot of anime fans". Pretending otherwise is delusional and narcissistic.

@Deathko An Anime fan want peace, we just want to enjoy our media, we don't push politics in our media, we don't annoy others, we don't want others to annoy us, any true Anime fan agree with me, anyone who want to ruin the media is not welcome here, such things applies to any fan of any media, not only Anime. Also you openly insulted all gamers above, we don't have reasons to listen to you. Yes, WE.

maybe thats why female protagonists like momo of dandadan, frieren and maomao are very popular recently

and this anime are popular in crunchyroll too

....If people are getting heated over this topic, they need to take a break from the internet lol. It's not that important.

For the record too, I don't have problem with YA stories. Hey I could still watch Chunnibayo and still probably enjoy it. I just understand the want for more age variety, in at least SOL settings. I don't think it matters as much in fantastical settings. I think it's good if fans relate to people that don't always reflect who they are. You will ultimately get older, and especially when you hit your 50s, I bet there is just a lot of media, that doesn't have you as the MC anymore. You have to accept that.

Still I think the focus of anime on YA, does mean the stories do trend a certain way, and that can be boring. Plus it's not even an age thing....entirely, which many of the pollsters also misunderstand. I just want older targeted writing, and if you can do that with teen characters by all means. March Comes in Like a Lion reflects that quite well, and that's my third favorite anime, and a work I could watch on repeat. I do think older characters, at least encourage writers to get away from YA themes though.

@Deathko An Anime fan want peace, we just want to enjoy our media, we don't push politics in our media, we don't annoy others, we don't want others to annoy us, any true Anime fan agree with me, anyone who want to ruin the media is not welcome here, such things applies to any fan of any media, not only Anime. Also you openly insulted all gamers above, we don't have reasons to listen to you. Yes, WE.