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Jun 13, 10:05 PM

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@TheBerserker Ranma is a Romcom with sprinkles of Harem in it. That's basically what Rumiko Takahashi has envisioned during all her career, Romcom series with lots and lots of women going behind few men, few men who are supposed to be us male watchers (of course). The fact that the protagonist turns into the best woman of all the series doesn't mean it's less of an harem, simply the harem extends to the female equivalent of the protagonist. If you want something shounen-like, your best bet are the tokusatsus of the second main writer of the first series (Toshiki Inoue) like his excellent Kamen Riders and Super Sentai, not Ranma 1/2 on itself.
@ProudElitist, ranma becomes much more like shounen from the musk dynasty arc and beyond. esp with the last two arcs kinda feeling a lot more like inuyasha.
Jun 13, 10:17 PM

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They don't necessary have to be female lead, but there should be more battle anime with actually important and well written female characters.

So many Shounen have unimportant or poorly written main female characters who's there just to give fan services, it's almost a meme about Shounen genre at this point.
Jun 13, 10:26 PM
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It could be but the chance is little considering many mainstream anime watchers are males who love self-insert MC surrounded by female harem like Sung Jin Woo



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Jun 13, 11:06 PM
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@ProudElitist, ranma becomes much more like shounen from the musk dynasty arc and beyond. esp with the last two arcs kinda feeling a lot more like inuyasha.
@Eggyy I have no idea, I was referring to the first series only, which is the only one I watched in japanese recently because of the person who was the main writer of the second half (the person of which I previously mentioned his tokus). Unfortunately the bad animation of the first episodes of the second, longer season turned me away. I don't have problems with longer series (I've started one this same morning, a battle shounen of all things) but when the animation already sinks after eight episodes there's something wrong in it. Even with all my deep, neverending love for Inoue-Sensei (he plotted a lot of the episodes of the second season), I just couldn't.
Jun 14, 4:25 AM

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@Eggyy I have no idea, I was referring to the first series only, which is the only one I watched in japanese recently because of the person who was the main writer of the second half (the person of which I previously mentioned his tokus). Unfortunately the bad animation of the first episodes of the second, longer season turned me away. I don't have problems with longer series (I've started one this same morning, a battle shounen of all things) but when the animation already sinks after eight episodes there's something wrong in it. Even with all my deep, neverending love for Inoue-Sensei (he plotted a lot of the episodes of the second season), I just couldn't.
@ProudElitist. what i mentioned is from the manga. the original anime never adapted the arcs that i mentioned. but yea, there's many chapters were ranma learns new special moves and fights whatever big bad is in that arc. of course there are still comedic and romance parts, but the manga gets less like a sitcom tho
Jun 14, 5:01 AM
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@ProudElitist. what i mentioned is from the manga. the original anime never adapted the arcs that i mentioned. but yea, there's many chapters were ranma learns new special moves and fights whatever big bad is in that arc. of course there are still comedic and romance parts, but the manga gets less like a sitcom tho
@Eggyy I never read the manga and I have no intention whatsoever to do it (I don't like the medium, one bit). That's why I wrote that what Rumiko Takahashi envisioned in all her works (the general idea, from which all the animes took inspiration) falls into the line of Romcom/Harem, not battle shounen.
Jun 15, 12:34 PM

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@Zettaiken

As expected from a zoomer with limited intelligence you believe MAL statatistics is a sign of popularity worldwide. Besides, the numbers you wrote came nowhere close to REALLY POPULAR shows, as I SAID in my first post, like One Peice, AOT or Demon SLayer etc., my boy...
@JoeChip Oh you really think I based my answers only on mal? Just because I use numbers from a website I am in, ain't meaning I don't go through other stuff, such a rookie mistake of thoughts. I also base them on other things, aswell as popularity of seing the merches and cosplayers IRL. Seems like you're more limited than you think of me.
Jun 17, 12:07 AM

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The real gold would be a series that puts a woman front and center without toning down the bloody violence and the carnage. Give her a goal that burns, a tragic backstory that hurts, and villains who make us genuinely fear for her life.
You give her the spotlight and let her go full-powered monologue mid-fight. viewers will eat it up.
Btw I'm obviously talking about Maki Zenin here.
Style minimalist, brutalise battle hardened body that show she been through wars. That’s the blueprint. Not "tough girl lite" but someone who radiates aura through physique, ruthlessness brutality and violence.
@RainyEvenings They have a few series like this, but no one really cares for them. The best selling action series with a female protagonist is Fairy Tail.
Jun 17, 12:10 AM

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I mean... There's Fairy Tail and Inuyasha. Series that sold well with female protagonists. The problem is, there's always a ceiling. Most of the best selling manga have a male protagonist. That's the reality of the situation. Most people don't care about female protagonists.
Jun 17, 12:10 AM

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I'd probably say a show like Magic Knight Rayearth fits the bill. It's magical girl anime, but really that has nothing to do with its target demographic, and it easily appeals to boys and girls. Nothing I've seen in that show feels like it targets either boys or girls specifically, other than the main characters being girls themselves, which I assume the criteria of this topic would have to allow.
@valico Magic Knight Rayearth is a Shoujo
Jun 17, 12:12 AM

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Sailor Moon is based on the meshing of Magical Girl genre and Super Sentais, which are the equivalent of battle shounens in tokusatsu/live action form. The whole thing about the super sentais is the choreography of the fights, and the same it was in Sailor Moon. And there are Ten women protagonists in Sailor Moon, not just one. Even more than the male-focused predecessor of Sailor Moon, Saint Seiya. Hell, there is stuff that was mentioned in the manly man (?) shounen by definition, Hokuto No Ken, that ended remade in Sailor Moon and in particular in Sailor Stars (the ending). Aren't those ten ladies enough for you? you want more?
@ProudElitist Sailor Moon is a Shoujo
Jun 17, 12:30 AM

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@RainyEvenings They have a few series like this, but no one really cares for them. The best selling action series with a female protagonist is Fairy Tail.
@LuxuriousHeart, I absolutely love fairy tail.
Jun 17, 1:25 AM
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@ProudElitist Sailor Moon is a Shoujo
@LuxuriousHeart Sailor Moon is a mixture of battle shounen/animated super sentais with magical girls, it's not 100% shoujo. Whatever you look at the shitty manga or the animated experience from the 90's. Hell, Sailor V already itself had stuff in it taken directly from Saint Seiya (Minako going to Greece and sporting a Saint armour), it wasn't just about a choice between good boys and bad boys. Theorically it's also about Sukeban Series but, again, in those (like Sukeban Deka I and II) the fighting part takes the cake the most, if there's romance in them it's very barebone. I know because I've watched a few of them.
Jun 17, 1:27 AM

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@LuxuriousHeart Sailor Moon is a mixture of battle shounen/animated super sentais with magical girls, it's not 100% shoujo. Whatever you look at the shitty manga or the animated experience from the 90's. Hell, Sailor V already itself had stuff in it taken directly from Saint Seiya (Minako going to Greece and sporting a Saint armour), it wasn't just about a choice between good boys and bad boys. Theorically it's also about Sukeban Series but, again, in those (like Sukeban Deka I and II) the fighting part takes the cake the most, if there's romance in them it's very barebone. I know because I've watched a few of them.
@ProudElitist So a Shoujo is not defined by the magazine that it was published in, but defined by whether you like it or not. If you like it, then it's obviously not aimed at girls, because you would never like anything that is aimed at girls. Do I have that right?
Jun 17, 1:50 AM

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I would rather prefer a battle shounen with harem that doesn't end with the generic 1x1 romance ending but instead an actual harem ending. Like xenoblade 2. Heck even I would prefer to see xenoblade 2 anime adaption with proper ending showing rex's harem in its glorious form( ゚ヮ゚)
Jun 17, 2:19 AM
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@ProudElitist So a Shoujo is not defined by the magazine that it was published in, but defined by whether you like it or not. If you like it, then it's obviously not aimed at girls, because you would never like anything that is aimed at girls. Do I have that right?
@LuxuriousHeart 1) shoujo is my favourite genre of all times and my favourite tokusatsu writers (Toshiki Inoue, Akiko Inoue) are so because they employ storytelling taken from shoujo, 2) I've seen Yaoi series that depicted (suggested, fully blown I couldn't care less) sexual intercourse between men and I liked them 3) in 2025 nobody gives a crap about the intended target audience. Shoujo is consumed by women only like "manly" battle shounens with men as the main protagonists such as Hokuto No Ken or Mecha toys are consumed/bought only by males, which means it's bullshit. That said, magazine or no magazine, SM is a majokko mixed with battle shounens/super sentais/sukeban deka girls shows nonetheless, it's a mixture of fights and soap-opera typical of shoujo (the kind of which you can even find in Hokuto No Ken, curiosly enough). I'm not the one who took the name Luna from a dog in the Denziman movie, I'm not the one who took the idea of warriors born on different planets from Flashman, I'm not the one who took the cyborg crap of Ishinomori (the same behind the battle shounen cyborg 009) and DEFINITELY I'm not the one who took the armours from Saint Seiya and put it in Sailor V, or remade parts of Hokuto No Ken and the last Saint Seiya movie (and let's not speak of the ending of SM classic, taken frame by frame from the house of Sagittarius of Saint Seiya) and remade it in the Masterpiece Sailor Stars. Those are, respectively, hack Naoko Takeuchi and Toei, not me.
Jun 17, 2:32 AM

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@LuxuriousHeart 1) shoujo is my favourite genre of all times and my favourite tokusatsu writers (Toshiki Inoue, Akiko Inoue) are so because they employ storytelling taken from shoujo, 2) I've seen Yaoi series that depicted (suggested, fully blown I couldn't care less) sexual intercourse between men and I liked them 3) in 2025 nobody gives a crap about the intended target audience. Shoujo is consumed by women only like "manly" battle shounens with men as the main protagonists such as Hokuto No Ken or Mecha toys are consumed/bought only by males, which means it's bullshit. That said, magazine or no magazine, SM is a majokko mixed with battle shounens/super sentais/sukeban deka girls shows nonetheless, it's a mixture of fights and soap-opera typical of shoujo (the kind of which you can even find in Hokuto No Ken, curiosly enough). I'm not the one who took the name Luna from a dog in the Denziman movie, I'm not the one who took the idea of warriors born on different planets from Flashman, I'm not the one who took the cyborg crap of Ishinomori (the same behind the battle shounen cyborg 009) and DEFINITELY I'm not the one who took the armours from Saint Seiya and put it in Sailor V, or remade parts of Hokuto No Ken and the last Saint Seiya movie (and let's not speak of the ending of SM classic, taken frame by frame from the house of Sagittarius of Saint Seiya) and remade it in the Masterpiece Sailor Stars. Those are, respectively, hack Naoko Takeuchi and Toei, not me.
@ProudElitist Sailor Moon was published in a Shoujo magazine, therefore it's a Shoujo. Being inspired by Shounen doesn't take away the fact that it's a Shoujo.
Jun 17, 2:42 AM
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@ProudElitist Sailor Moon was published in a Shoujo magazine, therefore it's a Shoujo. Being inspired by Shounen doesn't take away the fact that it's a Shoujo.
@LuxuriousHeart and it was targeted towards male otakus, the same ones for which images of the Sailor Senshis in bunny outfit/maids were made. BTW, I don't understand your nonsensical and frankly ridicolous rantings of the magazine where it was published, doesn't matter one bit where Naoko published her shit. Under the surface, the thing is a mixture of battle shounen/super sentais with magical girls, hence it's a battle shounen/animated super sentai mixed with magical girls. The magazine where the manga barf was published doesn't cancel one bit this fact, nor it cancels the fact that the fights are the main appeal of the series, at least in the anime because in the anime you can actually understand what's going on. End of the discussion.
Jun 17, 3:38 AM

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@LuxuriousHeart and it was targeted towards male otakus, the same ones for which images of the Sailor Senshis in bunny outfit/maids were made. BTW, I don't understand your nonsensical and frankly ridicolous rantings of the magazine where it was published, doesn't matter one bit where Naoko published her shit. Under the surface, the thing is a mixture of battle shounen/super sentais with magical girls, hence it's a battle shounen/animated super sentai mixed with magical girls. The magazine where the manga barf was published doesn't cancel one bit this fact, nor it cancels the fact that the fights are the main appeal of the series, at least in the anime because in the anime you can actually understand what's going on. End of the discussion.
@ProudElitist It's atill a Shoujo...
Jun 17, 3:53 AM
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@ProudElitist It's atill a Shoujo...
@LuxuriousHeart Women beat the shit out of other people, call it shoujo call it shounen call it J-Drama call it however you want it's about a group of women beating the shit out of other people or beating the shit out of themselves. If you get extremely horny by calling it shoujo - like you clearly do - because of your beloved, crappy manga magazines call it shoujo, more power to you. I prefer to get horny with other means.
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LuxuriousHeart said:
Sailor Moon was published in a Shoujo magazine, therefore it's a Shoujo.

Anime isn't published in magazines dumbass, that's manga

Jun 17, 10:26 AM

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LuxuriousHeart said:
Sailor Moon was published in a Shoujo magazine, therefore it's a Shoujo.

Anime isn't published in magazines dumbass, that's manga

@valico This is saying is saying nothing but false information.
Jun 17, 10:31 AM
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@valico This is saying is saying nothing but false information.
@LuxuriousHeart I'll need a detailed report on my desk covering every false bit of information in my post by the end of the day or you're fired.
Jun 17, 10:59 AM

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LuxuriousHeart said:
Sailor Moon was published in a Shoujo magazine, therefore it's a Shoujo.

Anime isn't published in magazines dumbass, that's manga

valico said:
If you wanted to argue that some aspects of the stories, like slice of life segments and romance beats in Sailor Moon, coupled with the general themes of friendship as a source of power rather than a character's own will, it would have been an interesting argument.

Also, as it relates to the topic, these shows you're quick to point out as shoujo do appeal to many boys, which is obvious evidence that a shounen with a female main character could indeed be popular. They'd just have to run it in the right magazine


The slice of life and romance segments have nothing to do with demographics.

On average, Shoujo doesn't appeal to guys. Men rarely buy Shoujo magazines or manga.
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LuxuriousHeart said:
The slice of life and romance segments have nothing to do with demographics.

On average, Shoujo doesn't appeal to guys. Men rarely buy Shoujo magazines or manga.

So, what exactly makes these series marketable to girls rather than boys? The title of the magazine?
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What is wrong with having a female main character?
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The real gold would be a series that puts a woman front and center without toning down the bloody violence and the carnage. Give her a goal that burns, a tragic backstory that hurts, and villains who make us genuinely fear for her life.
You give her the spotlight and let her go full-powered monologue mid-fight. viewers will eat it up.
Btw I'm obviously talking about Maki Zenin here.
Style minimalist, brutalise battle hardened body that show she been through wars. That’s the blueprint. Not "tough girl lite" but someone who radiates aura through physique, ruthlessness brutality and violence.
@RainyEvenings killing bites perhaps?
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