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Jun 19, 2:28 PM

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Sailor Moon + Homura.

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I just hate Puella Magi with every fiber of my being

Damn, really? With what I've seen of your other tastes, I'd have thought you'd enjoy it. It has its problems though, and depending on when you became aware of it I can see why someone would dislike it.
@CC I've seen three shows involving Gen Urobuchi. They're all rated 4 in my list, I gave up after that...

I tend to not enjoy some of the "dark" manga/anime of the 2000s/2010s. Texhnolyze (so edgy...), Osayumi Punpun (misery porn) or Madoka (kinda misery porn too, lets be honest) are probably the biggest ones I hated. I think it was just the general trend of the 2000s, emo music was my bane too in highschool.

I saw Madoka when I was already in my twenties, and had a quite limited but real experience of mahou shoujo (Sailor Moon, Utena, Magical Doremi...)
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Sakura powers are more interesting and she rollerblades. So Sakura.
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Hey, I noticed Pluto and Homura have something in common.
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THE GRAND FINALE


Sakura Kinomoto vs Sailor Moon




Third place play-off


Sailor Pluto vs Homura Akemi




https://challonge.com/de/9a2p1098 <-- tournament bracket


Final Episode: My Final Fight! (Part 2)


@TheMinkalex Here we Go!!
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Sailor Moon.
Sailor Pluto. ( Oh crap this 2nd one is SO hard. I feel like a traitor.)
Jun 19, 7:03 PM

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The Grand Finale:
Sakura Kinomoto

Deathko said:
@CC I've seen three shows involving Gen Urobuchi. They're all rated 4 in my list, I gave up after that...

No Psycho-Pass, though, so there is still hope :p

Lucifrost said:
Hey, I noticed Pluto and Homura have something in common.

Oh, nice catch :) I didn't notice that.
Jun 19, 10:50 PM

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GRAND FINALE

Sailor Moon
Sailor Pluto



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Jun 20, 12:54 AM

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The grand finale
Sakura Kinomoto

Third place
Homura Akemi
Jun 20, 4:31 AM
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Sakura Kinomoto
Homura Akemi

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Jun 20, 7:57 AM

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Sakura Kinomoto
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Sakura Kinomoto, obviously

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TheMinkalex said:
THE GRAND FINALE

Is this round also going to last 48 hours, or will its duration be shortened?



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Jun 20, 10:30 AM

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TheMinkalex said:
THE GRAND FINALE

Is this round also going to last 48 hours, or will its duration be shortened?
@nirererin Yes^^ But to be fair, I actually thought about shortening its duration, but maybe for the next tournament.
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TheMinkalex said:
@nirererin Yes^^ But to be fair, I actually thought about shortening its duration, but maybe for the next tournament.

Shortening the duration of each round would be a good decision, since most of the votes are cast on the first day or within the next half day. If you’re considering shortening the time, you could try reducing it from 48 hrs to 36 hrs for this round. That way, you can observe users reactions to the updated time limit before the next tournament.



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@nirererin Yes^^ But to be fair, I actually thought about shortening its duration, but maybe for the next tournament.

Shortening the duration of each round would be a good decision, since most of the votes are cast on the first day or within the next half day. If you’re considering shortening the time, you could try reducing it from 48 hrs to 36 hrs for this round. That way, you can observe users reactions to the updated time limit before the next tournament.
@nirererin okay, I will try it. But I will be away tomorrow, so I can end the round after I'm back home. ^^ (which would be earlier than 48 hours)

But you're right, 48 hours are maybe a bit too long.

Edit: Maybe I'm ending this round before I'm going. This would be for the best.
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@nirererin okay, I will try it. But I will be away tomorrow, so I can end the round after I'm back home. ^^ (which would be earlier than 48 hours)

But you're right, 48 hours are maybe a bit too long.

Sure, whatever works best for you. Appreciate your hard work 😊



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We reached the Finals

My winner would be Sakura

Homura would be my third place.


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I think 36 hours works when it's clear that every trailing character has no chance to catch up. If there's still a tie or close matchup, I think it would be better to give a score update and maybe a round extension so the late voters have a chance to make the final decisions.

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@CC I've seen three shows involving Gen Urobuchi. They're all rated 4 in my list, I gave up after that...

I tend to not enjoy some of the "dark" manga/anime of the 2000s/2010s. Texhnolyze (so edgy...), Osayumi Punpun (misery porn) or Madoka (kinda misery porn too, lets be honest) are probably the biggest ones I hated. I think it was just the general trend of the 2000s, emo music was my bane too in highschool.

I completely understand what you mean, I have my own issues with his writing even from the properties I do enjoy (Madoka included). I was in a fraught time in my life when I watched Madoka, though, especially Rebellion (which I think is the best of the series) and it had some content in it that was relatable for me at the time. As relatable as magical anime things can be, but you know, the feelings through the magical anime stuff.

That said,

-YaoiBoy- said:
No Psycho-Pass, though, so there is still hope :p

There's one scene in Psycho-Pass that I think is enough to put someone who already doesn't like Urobuchi's works off pretty immediately. I won't say what on the forums, and it's a small thing in terms of story, but it's really just prototypical of what I don't like about his writing. He really does have this sort of fetish for showing the rot and misery of humanity but in a way I sometimes find lazy and offensive. Not offensive like, "Wow, I'm offended!" but more with regards to my storytelling sensibilities.

Anyway, sorry this isn't on topic! がんばってください @ the magical girls, results soon I think?




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I think 36 hours works when it's clear that every trailing character has no chance to catch up. If there's still a tie or close matchup, I think it would be better to give a score update and maybe a round extension so the late voters have a chance to make the final decisions.
@MelodyOfMemory You're right, maybe a score update (if a battle should end in a tie) can help ^^ I will try it in the next tournament.
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Okay, the grand finale is over. Let's see who will win the Mahou Shoujo Battle Royale!
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After two weeks, we've got our winner, the Mahou Shoujo of all Mahou Shoujo! Sakura Kinomoto wins the Mahou Shoujo Battle Royale against Sailor Moon with 13:7.


The third place goes to Homura Akemi who won 12:5 against Sailor Pluto.


This was an amazing Mahou Shoujo showcase. The Mahou Shoujo-Genre is alive, more than ever.


Thank you all for participating and voting! The tournament would be nothing without you ^-^




https://challonge.com/de/9a2p1098 <-- tournament bracket


Here is a questionaire, if someone wants to answer that, this would be great, but you don't need to. It's voluntary.


1. What was your first Mahou Shoujo?


2. Was it also the anime that makes you love Mahou Shoujo?


3. What do you like the most about the Mahou Shoujo-Genre?


4. Who is your favorite Mahou Shoujo?


5. Are you happy with the results of this tournament?


6. For all of you who participated in more than one tournament of mine, maybe you saw a pattern. First a Waifu War, then a spin-off, than a Waifu War, then a spin-off etc. What other spin-off tournaments do you want to see? (If you want a sequel of a pre-existing tournament, why not? ^^)


The next spin-off tournament after Waifu War 3 will be a


Jun 20, 11:08 PM

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Thank you all for participating and voting! The tournament would be nothing without you ^-^

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Good that Sakura won as long as it isn't Sailor moon charcter it's fine.
TheMinkalex said:
1. What was your first Mahou Shoujo?

Gushing over magical girls lol..
TheMinkalex said:
Was it also the anime that makes you love Mahou Shoujo?

No
TheMinkalex said:
Who is your favorite Mahou Shoujo?

Miki Sayaka
TheMinkalex said:
Are you happy with the results of this tournament?

Somewhat
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What other spin-off tournaments do you want to see?

Character trope ones. Best tsundere seems fun.

Thanks for hosting
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Sakura was a full on force of nature in this tournament. There were two points where the vote was so close that a single person could have eliminated Sailor Moon (albeit requiring an unholy alliance for the first close call), but every matchup with Sakura was a decisive annihilation in her favour. I guess it helps that unlike Serena, she didn't have 8 other very popular compadres to take up slots and stir resentment at Sailor Moon's popularity. Also, if this was a Death Battle, Sakura would win because the one thing she has over the other girls is versatility. Others magical girls have a few powerful attacks they're known for, but Sakura's a fully powered D&D mage or endgame Metroidvania protagonist with how many tricks she has and how many combinations she can pull off. Also, she's no ditz, and is as cunning and observant as an adventure game player when dealing with the Clow Cards. Because her series is so calm and slice-of-life, it's easy to underestimate how dangerous she could really be. An unsurprising, but well-deserved champion.

So, exit questionnaire:

1. Sailor Moon. Though it was a cooler Japanese version of Disney's Snow White at first.

2. I mean, I didn't realize girls' shows could be so violent and therefore, awesome at the time. It was certainly more exciting than Disney Princesses. Heck, it started my love of horror movies (Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master even feels like a proto-Sailor Moon).

3. At the time I discovered magical girls, I was impressed to see girliness portrayed as a strength. Sometimes, I still have internalized misogyny about that, even though my own social circles has shown me how brave and kind girly girls can really be (hot take: often more so than masculine men). It's where I started learning to believe in "I fight for my friends" as a mantra.

4. Our champion. I've already explained her strengths, but one other underestimated aspect of her is her Nelvana dub incarnation. For those who lean more tomboyish or masculine, sometimes the stereotypical super girly, high-pitched protagonist doesn't always connect, so it's nice to have leads like Nelvana Sakura or Cure Sky around. Also, the first song I learned to sing out of my own initiative was one of her image songs from Cardcaptors.

5. I hoped that the unpleasantness could have been eliminated earlier, and that Cure Sky didn't lose to someone I have no clue about, and that Cure Wink didn't get matched up against the Force of Nature herself so she could at least get to the 2nd round, but otherwise, yes. The Elite Four are icons, we had a decent variety, Cure Butterfly at least survived to Round 2, and Berry Blossom made Top 16, which is amazing for such an under-the-radar character.

I gained a new appreciation for her, even. She's this random nerd who doesn't even know what she's doing or what the point of being a magical girl is, but makes some new frenemies in Acro Trip and has fun re-enacting Sam Sheepdog and Ralph Wolf style fights.

6. Sign me up for an idol tournament. I would definitely want to nominate Mitsuki Koyama and Kanon Shibuya.
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1. What was your first Mahou Shoujo?
Sailor Moon

2. Was it also the anime that makes you love Mahou Shoujo?
Yes

3. What do you like the most about the Mahou Shoujo-Genre?
Girls portrayed as strong fighters and not as an afterthought and weak like some girls are portrayed in battle shonen anime like Naruto or even Pokémon.

4. Who is your favorite Mahou Shoujo?
Sailor V or Sailor Venus

5. Are you happy with the results of this tournament?
Sure, would have loved to see Sailor Venus in the finals though.

6. For all of you who participated in more than one tournament of mine, maybe you saw a pattern. First a Waifu War, then a spin-off, than a Waifu War, then a spin-off etc. What other spin-off tournaments do you want to see? (If you want a sequel of a pre-existing tournament, why not? ^^)
A Sailor Moon funny facial expressions tournament could be funny, there are so many of those funny facial expressions in every episode:

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Thnx for hosting, the result is satisfying :)



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TheMinkalex said:
1. What was your first Mahou Shoujo?
Sailor Moon

2. Was it also the anime that makes you love Mahou Shoujo?
No, it was Madoka Magica

3. What do you like the most about the Mahou Shoujo-Genre?
The femininity

4. Who is your favorite Mahou Shoujo?
Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete

5. Are you happy with the results of this tournament?
Not really, the results are too standard this time.

6. What other spin-off tournaments do you want to see?
Best dere-type
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After two weeks, we've got our winner, the Mahou Shoujo of all Mahou Shoujo! Sakura Kinomoto wins the Mahou Shoujo Battle Royale against Sailor Moon with 13:7.


The third place goes to Homura Akemi who won 12:5 against Sailor Pluto.


This was an amazing Mahou Shoujo showcase. The Mahou Shoujo-Genre is alive, more than ever.


Thank you all for participating and voting! The tournament would be nothing without you ^-^




https://challonge.com/de/9a2p1098 <-- tournament bracket


Here is a questionaire, if someone wants to answer that, this would be great, but you don't need to. It's voluntary.


1. What was your first Mahou Shoujo?


2. Was it also the anime that makes you love Mahou Shoujo?


3. What do you like the most about the Mahou Shoujo-Genre?


4. Who is your favorite Mahou Shoujo?


5. Are you happy with the results of this tournament?


6. For all of you who participated in more than one tournament of mine, maybe you saw a pattern. First a Waifu War, then a spin-off, than a Waifu War, then a spin-off etc. What other spin-off tournaments do you want to see? (If you want a sequel of a pre-existing tournament, why not? ^^)


The next spin-off tournament after Waifu War 3 will be a


TheMinkalex said:
1. What was your first Mahou Shoujo?


Madoka Magica and Flip Flappers later

TheMinkalex said:
2. Was it also the anime that makes you love Mahou Shoujo?


I think so

TheMinkalex said:
3. What do you like the most about the Mahou Shoujo-Genre?


When it has romance and drama in it that I didn't expect - I also love fashion of Mahou-Shoujo

TheMinkalex said:
4. Who is your favorite Mahou Shoujo?


Madoka Kaname and Mimori Byakuya

TheMinkalex said:
5. Are you happy with the results of this tournament?


Yes! :D

TheMinkalex said:
6. For all of you who participated in more than one tournament of mine, maybe you saw a pattern. First a Waifu War, then a spin-off, than a Waifu War, then a spin-off etc. What other spin-off tournaments do you want to see? (If you want a sequel of a pre-existing tournament, why not? ^^)


I would like to see something that limits the choices further, so the waifus get more unique - by hair colour, same name [like Sakura tournament for example] anything really.
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Questionnaire-

1. https://myanimelist.net/anime/14829/Fate_kaleid_liner_Prisma%E2%98%86Illya.
2. No, I like the show but I didn’t love the magical girl genre.
3. I haven’t watched many mahou shoujo, so I don’t really know.
4. Maybe Usagi Tsukino.
5. Yes.
6. I’ll participate, no matter what you do :p



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After two weeks, we've got our winner, the Mahou Shoujo of all Mahou Shoujo! Sakura Kinomoto wins the Mahou Shoujo Battle Royale against Sailor Moon with 13:7.


The third place goes to Homura Akemi who won 12:5 against Sailor Pluto.


This was an amazing Mahou Shoujo showcase. The Mahou Shoujo-Genre is alive, more than ever.


Thank you all for participating and voting! The tournament would be nothing without you ^-^




https://challonge.com/de/9a2p1098 <-- tournament bracket


Here is a questionaire, if someone wants to answer that, this would be great, but you don't need to. It's voluntary.


1. What was your first Mahou Shoujo?


2. Was it also the anime that makes you love Mahou Shoujo?


3. What do you like the most about the Mahou Shoujo-Genre?


4. Who is your favorite Mahou Shoujo?


5. Are you happy with the results of this tournament?


6. For all of you who participated in more than one tournament of mine, maybe you saw a pattern. First a Waifu War, then a spin-off, than a Waifu War, then a spin-off etc. What other spin-off tournaments do you want to see? (If you want a sequel of a pre-existing tournament, why not? ^^)


The next spin-off tournament after Waifu War 3 will be a


TheMinkalex said:
1. What was your first Mahou Shoujo?

Sailor Moon

TheMinkalex said:
2. Was it also the anime that makes you love Mahou Shoujo?

No, I was a fan even before I had heard of the genre.

TheMinkalex said:
3. What do you like the most about the Mahou Shoujo-Genre?

The magic, I guess?

TheMinkalex said:
4. Who is your favorite Mahou Shoujo?

I don't have a favorite character. My favorite series is Minky Momo.

TheMinkalex said:
5. Are you happy with the results of this tournament?

Yes
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1. Rayearth aired before Sailor Moon, here, so that.
2. No, it is a combination of accidentally watching Tonde Burin and Princess Miyu first 3 episodes that made me love the genre elements.

3. They are weekly solving problems in the lives of the weekly npc in the crowd, all while dealing with their own problems.
4. Sakura's well woven as a character. For series, Doremi gets the cake for being more wacky.
5. Yes. Pretty good nominations.
6. Interesting, I think Magic Villain Girl, for the antagonists:

And major friend supporter, or some name like that:


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1. Rayearth aired before Sailor Moon, here, so that.
2. No, it is a combination of accidentally watching Tonde Burin and Princess Miyu first 3 episodes that made me love the genre elements.

3. They are weekly solving problems in the lives of the weekly npc in the crowd, all while dealing with their own problems.
4. Sakura's well woven as a character. For series, Doremi gets the cake for being more wacky.
5. Yes. Pretty good nominations.
6. Interesting, I think Magic Villain Girl, for the antagonists:

And major friend supporter, or some name like that:


Sasori56483 said:
Interesting, I think Magic Villain Girl, for the antagonists

I have heard that "villainess" is all the rage these days, though none of these anime come to mind when I think of my favorite antagonists.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/83/Villainess
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Now let's all listen to and sing Cardcaptor Sakura OP1 to honor the winner :p



I'm glad that Sakura won :) I obviously feel at least some affection for Usagi / Sailor Moon, considering my long history with the 90s series in particular, but I've said quite a few times that I don't particularly care about Sailor Senshi overall - it's mostly the entertaining antagonists and monsters-of-the-week that make me like the series as much as I do, so I never really saw a winner in any of them, even though I do like some (Venus, Jupiter, Pluto) significantly more than the others.

Homura in 3rd place is nice too :) I like Pluto, but I don't think she has as much of an iconic presence, so the results seem fair from that perspective.

Questionnaire:

1. What was your first Mahou Shoujo?

Sailor Moon.

2. Was it also the anime that makes you love Mahou Shoujo?

Both Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura contributed the most so far :)

3. What do you like the most about the Mahou Shoujo-Genre?

That's a tough question. I don't think I like anything specific about this genre in itself - I'm just always "hunting" for personally meaningful and impactful experiences, but I'm just as happy to enjoy something cute and entertaining. Mahou Shoujo seems like a genre that has the potential to provide both. But if I absolutely had to give an answer...maybe transformations? :p

4. Who is your favorite Mahou Shoujo?

Our winner, Sakura Kinomoto.

5. Are you happy with the results of this tournament?

Yes, quite happy :) none of the characters I dislike made it to the finals, and the character I like a lot won. Although, I kind of wish Sailor Venus defeated Sailor Moon back during their match-up and took the 2nd place instead.

6. For all of you who participated in more than one tournament of mine, maybe you saw a pattern. First a Waifu War, then a spin-off, than a Waifu War, then a spin-off etc. What other spin-off tournaments do you want to see? (If you want a sequel of a pre-existing tournament, why not? ^^)

Szczelajo said:
by hair colour

Yeah, I was also just about to say that it'd interesting if the nominations were restricted by hair color, for example. Or there could be several groups competing during the same contest based on their hair color, just in case one group won't have enough participants to justify a whole tournament. Nothing else comes to mind at the time.

@TheMinkalex thanks for organizing :)

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There's one scene in Psycho-Pass that I think is enough to put someone who already doesn't like Urobuchi's works off pretty immediately. I won't say what on the forums, and it's a small thing in terms of story, but it's really just prototypical of what I don't like about his writing.

Now I'm curious :p if not on the forums, then feel free to send a PM to explain what scene you mean :) if it's not too much trouble.

CC said:
He really does have this sort of fetish for showing the rot and misery of humanity but in a way I sometimes find lazy and offensive. Not offensive like, "Wow, I'm offended!" but more with regards to my storytelling sensibilities.

Makes sense :) I assume by "lazy" in this case you mean overly gratuitous and without much justification. As for my own two cents:

And speaking of Urobuchi works:

CC said:
Anyway, sorry this isn't on topic!

I'm also guilty of responding and derailing it further :p
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Re: Urobuchi, what bothered me about Madoka is that aside from Homura, the other girls were mostly cardboard cutouts that only existed to have plot happen to them.

I must say, the most memorable part of the tournament was Sailor Moon and Madoka getting matched up as two big titans of magical girl anime, only for Usagi to completely annihilate Madoka. To be honest, I never really liked Madoka because she came off as a "Wins by doing nothing" character like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

The fact that Homura, on the other hand, gave Sailor Moon real competition shows where the real power behind the throne lies.

Also, I personally don't consider this derailing, and I did wish people talked more about the anime and characters they liked or disliked in the tournament. Was tempted to annoy people with Berry Blossom promotion a few times.

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After two weeks, we've got our winner, the Mahou Shoujo of all Mahou Shoujo! Sakura Kinomoto wins the Mahou Shoujo Battle Royale against Sailor Moon with 13:7.


The third place goes to Homura Akemi who won 12:5 against Sailor Pluto.


This was an amazing Mahou Shoujo showcase. The Mahou Shoujo-Genre is alive, more than ever.


Thank you all for participating and voting! The tournament would be nothing without you ^-^




https://challonge.com/de/9a2p1098 <-- tournament bracket


Here is a questionaire, if someone wants to answer that, this would be great, but you don't need to. It's voluntary.


1. What was your first Mahou Shoujo?


2. Was it also the anime that makes you love Mahou Shoujo?


3. What do you like the most about the Mahou Shoujo-Genre?


4. Who is your favorite Mahou Shoujo?


5. Are you happy with the results of this tournament?


6. For all of you who participated in more than one tournament of mine, maybe you saw a pattern. First a Waifu War, then a spin-off, than a Waifu War, then a spin-off etc. What other spin-off tournaments do you want to see? (If you want a sequel of a pre-existing tournament, why not? ^^)


The next spin-off tournament after Waifu War 3 will be a


@TheMinkalex 1) Sailor Moon. Never even thought I'd like it, I was already a grown man, for God's sake.
2) I don't know that I "love" the Genre' all that much. I watch a few every now & then.
3) I usually like the ones that turn the formula upside down, honestly
4) Still Sailor Moon. With Madoka characters a close second.
5) Yes.


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@CC I've seen three shows involving Gen Urobuchi. They're all rated 4 in my list, I gave up after that...

I tend to not enjoy some of the "dark" manga/anime of the 2000s/2010s. Texhnolyze (so edgy...), Osayumi Punpun (misery porn) or Madoka (kinda misery porn too, lets be honest) are probably the biggest ones I hated. I think it was just the general trend of the 2000s, emo music was my bane too in highschool.

I completely understand what you mean, I have my own issues with his writing even from the properties I do enjoy (Madoka included). I was in a fraught time in my life when I watched Madoka, though, especially Rebellion (which I think is the best of the series) and it had some content in it that was relatable for me at the time. As relatable as magical anime things can be, but you know, the feelings through the magical anime stuff.

That said,

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No Psycho-Pass, though, so there is still hope :p

There's one scene in Psycho-Pass that I think is enough to put someone who already doesn't like Urobuchi's works off pretty immediately. I won't say what on the forums, and it's a small thing in terms of story, but it's really just prototypical of what I don't like about his writing. He really does have this sort of fetish for showing the rot and misery of humanity but in a way I sometimes find lazy and offensive. Not offensive like, "Wow, I'm offended!" but more with regards to my storytelling sensibilities.

Anyway, sorry this isn't on topic! がんばってください @ the magical girls, results soon I think?
CC said:
There's one scene in Psycho-Pass that I think is enough to put someone who already doesn't like Urobuchi's works off pretty immediately. I won't say what on the forums, and it's a small thing in terms of story, but it's really just prototypical of what I don't like about his writing. He really does have this sort of fetish for showing the rot and misery of humanity but in a way I sometimes find lazy and offensive. Not offensive like, "Wow, I'm offended!" but more with regards to my storytelling sensibilities.


I tried to message you with my answer to avoid derailing this further, but couldn't u_u

I'll watch it because I heard good things about S1, but this somewhat confirms my expectation. This said, I can survive a couple instances of bad or tasteless writing in a show. I'm in the mood to watch anime these days anyway, so I'll try to watch it before summer ends, and come back to you when I'm done!
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1. What was your first Mahou Shoujo?


2. Was it also the anime that makes you love Mahou Shoujo?


3. What do you like the most about the Mahou Shoujo-Genre?


4. Who is your favorite Mahou Shoujo?


5. Are you happy with the results of this tournament?


1- Sailor Moon is my first exposure to the genre when I was very young (like, 4 or 5), but the first mahou shojo I watched was Magical Doremi when I was in my early teens.

2- Utena, best anime ever.

3- I like how it carries this whole heritage of questionning gender norms and sexuality. Also, cool transformation scenes.

4- I guess I'll go with Utena, but Juri from the same show is truly the best (wether she's a mahou shoujo or not is debatable, tho. I'd say she isn't)

5- I'm okay with the results, they were honestly predictable. Slightly surprised Sakura crushed Sailor Moon.
However, I must say the shadow of (the deplorable) Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete loomed over this whole competition. AD has always been prone to some FotM and/or gooning bias, but some of the votes were just painful to watch. If this show is going to be the revival of mahou shoujo's popularity, the genre is probably better dead, chilling with mecha in our collective memory.
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YAY SAKURA!

Questionnaire:

1. Cardcaptor Sakura
2. Partially, it was Healin’ Good Pretty Cure that solidified my love for the genre
3. The hopeful tone, the aesthetics, the themes of love and hope enduring!
4. Sakura Kinomoto and Haruka Haruno
5. I’m happy with the winner, though I do wish Haruka had lasted longer
6. Magical boys please!
~Saeryen~Cure Cantata~


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YAY SAKURA!

Questionnaire:

1. Cardcaptor Sakura
2. Partially, it was Healin’ Good Pretty Cure that solidified my love for the genre
3. The hopeful tone, the aesthetics, the themes of love and hope enduring!
4. Sakura Kinomoto and Haruka Haruno
5. I’m happy with the winner, though I do wish Haruka had lasted longer
6. Magical boys please!
Saeryen said:
Magical boys please!

How would you define that? "Boys who use magic" would essentially entail a battle shounen tournament.
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Magical boys please!

How would you define that? "Boys who use magic" would essentially entail a battle shounen tournament.
@Lucifrost Probably Sailor Moon or Precure but with bishonens and gay undertones instead of lesbian undertones. Don't forget the trasformations.
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@Lucifrost Probably Sailor Moon or Precure but with bishonens and gay undertones instead of lesbian undertones. Don't forget the trasformations.
@Deathko Yes, pretty much. I mean characters like Tsubasa/Cure Wing from Pretty Cure; boys who fit the magical girl archetype.
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@Deathko Yes, pretty much. I mean characters like Tsubasa/Cure Wing from Pretty Cure; boys who fit the magical girl archetype.
@Saeryen and maybe the entire cast of Cute High Earth Defense Club LOVE! ^^
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@Saeryen and maybe the entire cast of Cute High Earth Defense Club LOVE! ^^
@TheMinkalex Only one I can thing of besides Tuxedo Mask is the guy who actually turns into a Magical Girl in Magical Girl Raising Project. But he is actually one of the better characters in that show. Seriously, in this contest I ALMOST voted for Cranberry once. LOL
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@Deathko Yes, pretty much. I mean characters like Tsubasa/Cure Wing from Pretty Cure; boys who fit the magical girl archetype.
@Saeryen
But Tsubasa is like the 2nd male in 20 years of Precure. And how many other shows like Cute High Earth Defense Club have you seen? There simply aren't enough magical boys in existence for this kind of tournament.
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Wow, Sakura over Sailor Moon and the Madoka girls

Good for her

(as for the post-tournament survey, have we done a "best OP" tournament? That'd go kinda nuts tbh)
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At least H*mura didn't win 1st place, so not too bad. Shame better girls lost early though.
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1. Sailor Moon
2. Sailor Moon
3. The hopeful tone, the aesthetics, the themes of love and hope enduring!
4. Shigure Kokoro and Ichijou Nagase
5. I’m happy with the winner, though I do wish Precure did better
6. Ninjas
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