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@fbjim reddit really killed off this kind of shit, and i'll never forgive them for it. you just don't get this kind of thing outside of forums.
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I think mal is trying to cut culture war stuff too, but ultimately it gets clicks. Controversy tends to get more views than praise. I think it is a target because the average opinion on the stuff is not always the politically correct one.
I think mal is trying to cut culture war stuff too, but ultimately it gets clicks. Controversy tends to get more views than praise. I think it is a target because the average opinion on the stuff is not always the politically correct one.
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EcchiGodMamster said: I think Korea would disagree with that statement but okay. the history of east asian people enslaving or whatevere other east asian people isn't the same as countries that not only had slavery of MANY DIFFERENT RACES, but then becomes a metropolitan country in its future EcchiGodMamster said: They probably could use some though. They have one of the highest pay gaps, between men and women for a developed modern economy. I doubt Japanese women are just incompetent. ok cool, well they still don't have the same amount of screeching feminists EcchiGodMamster said: Arguing she isn't idealized, means you don't know what an average girl her age looks like.thats not an argument, and shes NOT a "real" woman EcchiGodMamster said: Probably Chinese people, it doesn't portray them in the best light. Also the series, creator does probably have libertarian leanings. ok, so who watched Irregular at Magic Highschool and thought "this is too political"? EcchiGodMamster said: Kay provide them. uh... theres been plenty of examples of dialouge changes in both manga and anime to make them sound "less offensive" EcchiGodMamster said: I have read way more Star Wars books than your average Disney whinner (most of the EU). I am more of a dedicated fan than the vast majority of Star Wars fans. The thing is, I actually was upset however, you realize how petulant and immature it really is to care that deeply about a lot of this shit. this is EXACTLY what makes them fans... sounds more to me like you were just along for the hype train/ride and jumped off as soon as things went awry (something normies do) I "jumped off the train" because I know there are better things I could do with my time, than bitch about Star Wars. I got into Gundam for instance, and that was a lot of fun. They could have also done that rather than moan that a billion dollar + corporation doesn't pay attention to them. At the end of the day, I realized that most fans didn't care about what i loved, and therefore, I wasn't going to make an impact, so I moved on. I waste too much of my free time as a it is (indictive of arguing with people like you). EcchiGodMamster said: So anime isn't respectful to Japanese culture good to know. You realize anime is a result of "changes" to what Japan was right? Or that it can be seen as subversive. Like anime is not "traditional Japanese culture". understanding that its a different culture and not trying to force changes Exactly, so no one actually wants to totally avoid politics, they just want their own bubble. It's true for most people for the record, I am not saying only right wing culture grifters feel that way. That is my point, no one is anti political writing, no one, and they are lying if they argue in favor of that. EcchiGodMamster said: It explains I understand how much power I actually have over things I don't make. If you want total power over your media.....make it yourself and self publish, otherwise you have to accept people will do things you don't like. if you don't care if things "don't feel the same anymore" in the future, ok good for you, i guess that explains alot here Anime doesn't feel the same for me anymore in some ways, it does disappoint me already in some ways, and that isn't due to evil outside forces. I just don't expect an entertainment medium to ensure I am always happy, or the end all of my world. I will get over it, and you have to accept that or you are bound for disappointment. When I feel alienated by the medium, I find other distractions and other hobbies, if I even get the time to do that. I don't get upset that the industry isn't doing x and bitch to anyone who will listen to me, while still supporting said industry, which is what your average angry SW fan does. It's childish to expect all these artists to always bend to your will and that the world isn't going to change. Anime/manga itself is a product of a very chaotic and changing world. That may upset some of you, because it means what you love, may die, however, that is inventible with everything in life. I want anime to have a good long future...still, for the industry to get that the last people they should listen to are the weeb fans on here lol. Donghua would destroy the industry in a decade, if some of you had total control of it. You have to adapt, and you have to plot a future that still allows for a financially healthy industry, ethics aside. If anime loses it's relevancy in Asia mainly but also NA it will really hurt. EcchiGodMamster said: The Japanese market has to actually be receptive to those ideas. Like again, we are in an age where anime is still largely adaptions, and those adaptions are largely only supported by Japan unlike anime adaptions. They are determining what gets made. No one is pointing a gun at someone demanding they include trans characters, diverse characters whatever the "anti politics" crowd doesn't like. the western anime market and the people feeding Japan ideas of what the west "wants" are leftists |
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you know what the fuck im talking about when i say diversity in the west vs diversity in east asia... please stop... BilboBaggins365 said: They probably could use some though. They have one of the highest pay gaps, between men and women for a developed modern economy. I doubt Japanese women are just incompetent. NO... they couldn't, especially since modern feminism is arguably BIGGEST reason for the worldwide population decline women obsessing over making money and advancing their careers = less children no the fuck does Japan need more of that BilboBaggins365 said: Arguing she isn't idealized, means you don't know what an average girl her age looks like. they made her less attractive and i don't wanna hear shit about 3 years, NO ONE looks that much older in 3 years unless theyre on drugs end of story BilboBaggins365 said: Probably Chinese people, it doesn't portray them in the best light. Also the series, creator does probably have libertarian leanings. again, you know what the fuck im talking about when i say diversity in the west vs divesity in east asia BilboBaggins365 said: Kay provide them. you're honestly just gonna have to take my word for it, cause i wouldn't even remember where to find every example, its not like i wrote all them down but one major one i can think of the Mushoku Tensei's english manga having to be reprinted because westerners nerfed/butcherd the dialoge to make it "less offensive" if you don't want to believe me, ok, i don't care BilboBaggins365 said: The thing is, I actually was upset however, you realize how petulant and immature it really is to care that deeply about a lot of this shit. well if this is your opinion on fandom, then no one who is a fan of something has any reason to give a shit about it if you think its silly, good for you, i don't give a shit, if i love something im gonna complain if something i dont like happens to it BilboBaggins365 said: At the end of the day, I realized that most fans didn't care about what i loved, and therefore, I wasn't going to make an impact, so I moved on. I waste too much of my free time as a it is (indictive of arguing with people like you). want a medal? BilboBaggins365 said: So anime isn't respectful to Japanese culture good to know. You realize anime is a result of "changes" to what Japan was right? Or that it can be seen as subversive. Like anime is not "traditional Japanese culture". anime is made in Japan, so Japan can do whatever they want with it BilboBaggins365 said: Exactly, so no one actually wants to totally avoid politics, they just want their own bubble. It's true for most people for the record, I am not saying only right wing culture grifters feel that way. That is my point, no one is anti political writing, no one, and they are lying if they argue in favor of that. ok cool, well im never going to stop defending freedom of expression BilboBaggins365 said: It explains I understand how much power I actually have over things I don't make. If you want total power over your media.....make it yourself and self publish, otherwise you have to accept people will do things you don't like. Anime doesn't feel the same for me anymore in some ways, it does disappoint me already in some ways, and that isn't due to evil outside forces. I just don't expect an entertainment medium to ensure I am always happy, or the end all of my world. I will get over it, and you have to accept that or you are bound for disappointment. When I feel alienated by the medium, I find other distractions and other hobbies, if I even get the time to do that. I don't get upset that the industry isn't doing x and bitch to anyone who will listen to me, while still supporting said industry, which is what your average angry SW fan does. It's childish to expect all these artists to always bend to your will and that the world isn't going to change. Anime/manga itself is a product of a very chaotic and changing world. That may upset some of you, because it means what you love, may die, however, that is inventible with everything in life. I want anime to have a good long future...still, for the industry to get that the last people they should listen to are the weeb fans on here lol. Donghua would destroy the industry in a decade, if some of you had total control of it. You have to adapt, and you have to plot a future that still allows for a financially healthy industry, ethics aside. If anime loses it's relevancy in Asia mainly but also NA it will really hurt. good for you do you still want a medal? BilboBaggins365 said: The Japanese market has to actually be receptive to those ideas. Like again, we are in an age where anime is still largely adaptions, and those adaptions are largely only supported by Japan unlike anime adaptions. They are determining what gets made. No one is pointing a gun at someone demanding they include trans characters, diverse characters whatever the "anti politics" crowd doesn't like. do you even know what i said? i have NEVER complained about "diverse characters" in manga/anime its been like that pretty much since the beginning, and the people that complain about the inclusion of that stuff are probably just newer watchers why are you bringing that up? |
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EcchiGodMamster said: No I just find your justification flimsy. you know what the fuck im talking about when i say diversity in the west vs diversity in east asia... please stop... EcchiGodMamster said: I don't think woman's rights are bad lol. If there is population decline because we don't treat women as inferiors, I would rather population decline, and figure out how to deal with population decline through tech. I don't see how you could defend people getting paid for less, for something they cannot biologically can help. NO... they couldn't, especially since modern feminism is arguably BIGGEST reason for the worldwide population decline women obsessing over making money and advancing their careers = less children no the fuck does Japan need more of that EcchiGodMamster said: I would say you are on drugs but okay...not going to fight this.they made her less attractive and i don't wanna hear shit about 3 years, NO ONE looks that much older in 3 years unless theyre on drugs EcchiGodMamster said: Beyond what you reasonably can control, aka buying or not buying something yeah. Creatives have the ultimate control, and those guys often are accountable to big publishers/media companies. I can get upset that works don't cater to me, however, I will move on, and find something that does. We are in a media surplus, it's not that hard. If anything I have too much stuff to read, watch or engage with. It probably would take me multiple life times as it is, before I actually get bored.well if this is your opinion on fandom, then no one who is a fan of something has any reason to give a shit about it If my views are in the majority they will have to change, due to financial losses, and if I am in the minority well.....nothing I can do. That's life. Majority wins all the time. If anime changes, it will be due to the fact they are trying to gain the majority of people, and if you feel alienated, you probably aren't the majority anymore. So gatekeep right? Well it doesn't exist, new fans will come in whether you like it or not, and will change things. The alternative is just to hope the industry implodes, and loses it's fans, which may lead to fans you like leaving too, and in that case, likely the industry just loses most of it's ability to put out content you like at that point anyway. EcchiGodMamster said: If you want to yell into the aether you do you, I find it pointless, which yeah these convos also feel that way. I hope this is the last low key culture war thread I stupidly get into. I should value my free time, enjoying life, rather than getting upset over frankly nothing actually important in the grand scheme of things. if you think its silly, good for you, i don't give a shit, if i love something im gonna complain if something i dont like happens to it EcchiGodMamster said: If you want to nobly believe you are doing that, go ahead. ok cool, well im never going to stop defending freedom of expression EcchiGodMamster said: No though I can see the conversation is done here. do you still want a medal? EcchiGodMamster said: Who said we were talking about you? I am talking generally. i have NEVER complained about "diverse characters" in manga/anime EcchiGodMamster said: Some of the worst ones, are older fans in my experiance but okay. its been like that pretty much since the beginning, and the people that complain about the inclusion of that stuff are probably just newer watchers |
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BilboBaggins365 said: No I just find your justification flimsy. well thats too bad i guess BilboBaggins365 said: I don't think woman's rights are bad lol. If there is population decline because we don't treat women as inferiors, I would rather population decline, and figure out how to deal with population decline through tech. I don't see how you could defend people getting paid for less, for something they cannot biologically can help. women were overall happier in the past, they actually gave a shit about having children and a strong man by their side instead of this "i don't need no man", "kids are a burden" propaganda garbage we have today (including in Japan) and when we look at Japan, which is arguably the most depressed country in the world, we can easily see the results which woman is happier? the one with 4 kids and a husband who pays the bills as she stays at home raising her children or the feminist who can't find a man because she spent her younger years worrying about how men make more money than her? BilboBaggins365 said: I would say you are on drugs but okay...not going to fight this. I've never even tried weed i don't smoke or drink, i just know that no one ages that much in 3 years BilboBaggins365 said: Beyond what you reasonably can control, aka buying or not buying something yeah. Creatives have the ultimate control, and those guys often are accountable to big publishers/media companies. I can get upset that works don't cater to me, however, I will move on, and find something that does. We are in a media surplus, it's not that hard. If anything I have too much stuff to read, watch or engage with. It probably would take me multiple life times as it is, before I actually get bored. just because i can "just go back to older anime" or "find something else" doesn't mean im not gonna be salty about (at least potentially) losing something i love if you don't want to complain about it, then don't, but your'e not stopping people like me from complaining, regardless of what can be done if you don't complain, they won't fix anything, and yes, dumb decisions HAVE BEEN REVERSED because fans complained... just look at the Sonic movie as one of the biggest examples ZZZ had a censorship scandal that was immediately reversed when fans complained BilboBaggins365 said: If you want to yell into the aether you do you, I find it pointless, which yeah these convos also feel that way. I hope this is the last low key culture war thread I stupidly get into. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 BilboBaggins365 said: If you want to nobly believe you are doing that, go ahead. i am BilboBaggins365 said: No though I can see the conversation is done here. finally i dont' consider those people anime fans, so fuck their opinions, gatekeep them too BilboBaggins365 said: Some of the worst ones, are older fans in my experiance but okay. well i don't know where you're getting that impression from, and i dont know how long you've been part of the anime community, but i've defintiely been in it FAR LONGER and i don't remember "right wingers" in the anime community raging about gay this gay that, trans this, trans that in the past not saying it didn't exist |
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EcchiGodMamster said: women were overall happier in the past, they actually gave a shit about having children and a strong man by their side instead of this "i don't need no man", "kids are a burden" propaganda garbage we have today (including in Japan) and when we look at Japan, which is arguably the most depressed country in the world, we can easily see the results which woman is happier? the one with 4 kids and a husband who pays the bills as she stays at home raising her children or the feminist who can't find a man because she spent her younger years worrying about how men make more money than her? What’s wrong with a woman who doesn’t desire marriage or children? Maybe the whole “Strong independent whamen” sounds cringe to you but in the past, women weren’t given much options aside from marriage and kids, which is what feminists don’t like. There’s nothing wrong with becoming a mother and wife but the problem is that some people think that’s it the only valid option for women, which is what those feminists dislike. Also, the work culture on Japan is horrendous, which makes creating a family very difficult, especially for women. You can cry about population decline and feminism all you want but women have the right to choose different paths in life that isn’t motherhood. |
LeonhartAugust said: What’s wrong with a woman who doesn’t desire marriage or children? Maybe the whole “Strong independent whamen” sounds cringe to you but in the past, women weren’t given much options aside from marriage and kids, which is what feminists don’t like. There’s nothing wrong with becoming a mother and wife but the problem is that some people think that’s it the only valid option for women, which is what those feminists dislike. Also, the work culture on Japan is horrendous, which makes creating a family very difficult, especially for women. You can cry about population decline and feminism all you want but women have the right to choose different paths in life that isn’t motherhood. anyone is free to live however they want, but it doesn't change the fact that modern feminists are some of, if not the most depressed people on earth and that they have all but ruined modern relationships between men and women hence why they tend to ruin entertainment mediums they enter, ie the much of the western gaming industry and modern Star Wars as just two major examples. hence why people want them gatekept i don't think you realize how many of them end up regretting their decisions as they age as they see other women with a husband and kids, its actually a HUGE THING in China (leftover women) and Japan BUT i will say this... the women that ARE ACTUALLY HAPPY alone probably just don't identify as feminists and probably don't give a shit about "the wage gap" or think everything is "sexist" |
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EcchiGodMamster said: the western anime market and the people feeding Japan ideas of what the west "wants" are leftists No one is feeding Japan anything. What are we even talking about? Ironically, it's the right that has a history of censoring Japan. EcchiGodMamster said: again, taking your word for it, its most likely that back in those days we didn't have mainstream social media where people feel the need to be insuffereable about their politics if woke people, ESPECIALLY feminists, weren't so screechy, they wouldn't be nearly as hated as they are Forums and Facebook were a thing. EcchiGodMamster said: then explain to me why Tomb Raider and the women in the newest Mortal Kombat were desexualized? why does the woman frrom the Witcher look SO MUCH OLDER in a game that takes place ONLY 3 YEARS LATER? why was the female warrior in the Dragon Quest remake given extra clothing? explain what is going on here.... cause i definitely can Because people wanted them that way. The workers at the company wanted them that way. It's not rocket science or an agenda. If it was some weird agenda, then everyone would follow suit. Radical concept: everyone doesn't like what you like. |
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you know what the fuck im talking about when i say diversity in the west vs diversity in east asia... please stop...
BilboBaggins365 said:
They probably could use some though. They have one of the highest pay gaps, between men and women for a developed modern economy. I doubt Japanese women are just incompetent.
They probably could use some though. They have one of the highest pay gaps, between men and women for a developed modern economy. I doubt Japanese women are just incompetent.
NO... they couldn't, especially since modern feminism is arguably BIGGEST reason for the worldwide population decline
women obsessing over making money and advancing their careers = less children
no the fuck does Japan need more of that
BilboBaggins365 said:
Arguing she isn't idealized, means you don't know what an average girl her age looks like.
Arguing she isn't idealized, means you don't know what an average girl her age looks like.
they made her less attractive and i don't wanna hear shit about 3 years, NO ONE looks that much older in 3 years unless theyre on drugs
end of story
BilboBaggins365 said:
Probably Chinese people, it doesn't portray them in the best light. Also the series, creator does probably have libertarian leanings.
Probably Chinese people, it doesn't portray them in the best light. Also the series, creator does probably have libertarian leanings.
again, you know what the fuck im talking about when i say diversity in the west vs divesity in east asia
BilboBaggins365 said:
Kay provide them.
Kay provide them.
you're honestly just gonna have to take my word for it, cause i wouldn't even remember where to find every example, its not like i wrote all them down
but one major one i can think of the Mushoku Tensei's english manga having to be reprinted because westerners nerfed/butcherd the dialoge to make it "less offensive"
if you don't want to believe me, ok, i don't care
BilboBaggins365 said:
The thing is, I actually was upset however, you realize how petulant and immature it really is to care that deeply about a lot of this shit.
The thing is, I actually was upset however, you realize how petulant and immature it really is to care that deeply about a lot of this shit.
well if this is your opinion on fandom, then no one who is a fan of something has any reason to give a shit about it
if you think its silly, good for you, i don't give a shit, if i love something im gonna complain if something i dont like happens to it
BilboBaggins365 said:
At the end of the day, I realized that most fans didn't care about what i loved, and therefore, I wasn't going to make an impact, so I moved on. I waste too much of my free time as a it is (indictive of arguing with people like you).
At the end of the day, I realized that most fans didn't care about what i loved, and therefore, I wasn't going to make an impact, so I moved on. I waste too much of my free time as a it is (indictive of arguing with people like you).
want a medal?
BilboBaggins365 said:
So anime isn't respectful to Japanese culture good to know. You realize anime is a result of "changes" to what Japan was right? Or that it can be seen as subversive. Like anime is not "traditional Japanese culture".
So anime isn't respectful to Japanese culture good to know. You realize anime is a result of "changes" to what Japan was right? Or that it can be seen as subversive. Like anime is not "traditional Japanese culture".
anime is made in Japan, so Japan can do whatever they want with it
BilboBaggins365 said:
Exactly, so no one actually wants to totally avoid politics, they just want their own bubble. It's true for most people for the record, I am not saying only right wing culture grifters feel that way. That is my point, no one is anti political writing, no one, and they are lying if they argue in favor of that.
Exactly, so no one actually wants to totally avoid politics, they just want their own bubble. It's true for most people for the record, I am not saying only right wing culture grifters feel that way. That is my point, no one is anti political writing, no one, and they are lying if they argue in favor of that.
ok cool, well im never going to stop defending freedom of expression
BilboBaggins365 said:
It explains I understand how much power I actually have over things I don't make. If you want total power over your media.....make it yourself and self publish, otherwise you have to accept people will do things you don't like.
Anime doesn't feel the same for me anymore in some ways, it does disappoint me already in some ways, and that isn't due to evil outside forces. I just don't expect an entertainment medium to ensure I am always happy, or the end all of my world. I will get over it, and you have to accept that or you are bound for disappointment. When I feel alienated by the medium, I find other distractions and other hobbies, if I even get the time to do that. I don't get upset that the industry isn't doing x and bitch to anyone who will listen to me, while still supporting said industry, which is what your average angry SW fan does.
It's childish to expect all these artists to always bend to your will and that the world isn't going to change. Anime/manga itself is a product of a very chaotic and changing world. That may upset some of you, because it means what you love, may die, however, that is inventible with everything in life. I want anime to have a good long future...still, for the industry to get that the last people they should listen to are the weeb fans on here lol. Donghua would destroy the industry in a decade, if some of you had total control of it. You have to adapt, and you have to plot a future that still allows for a financially healthy industry, ethics aside. If anime loses it's relevancy in Asia mainly but also NA it will really hurt.
It explains I understand how much power I actually have over things I don't make. If you want total power over your media.....make it yourself and self publish, otherwise you have to accept people will do things you don't like.
Anime doesn't feel the same for me anymore in some ways, it does disappoint me already in some ways, and that isn't due to evil outside forces. I just don't expect an entertainment medium to ensure I am always happy, or the end all of my world. I will get over it, and you have to accept that or you are bound for disappointment. When I feel alienated by the medium, I find other distractions and other hobbies, if I even get the time to do that. I don't get upset that the industry isn't doing x and bitch to anyone who will listen to me, while still supporting said industry, which is what your average angry SW fan does.
It's childish to expect all these artists to always bend to your will and that the world isn't going to change. Anime/manga itself is a product of a very chaotic and changing world. That may upset some of you, because it means what you love, may die, however, that is inventible with everything in life. I want anime to have a good long future...still, for the industry to get that the last people they should listen to are the weeb fans on here lol. Donghua would destroy the industry in a decade, if some of you had total control of it. You have to adapt, and you have to plot a future that still allows for a financially healthy industry, ethics aside. If anime loses it's relevancy in Asia mainly but also NA it will really hurt.
good for you
do you still want a medal?
BilboBaggins365 said:
The Japanese market has to actually be receptive to those ideas. Like again, we are in an age where anime is still largely adaptions, and those adaptions are largely only supported by Japan unlike anime adaptions. They are determining what gets made. No one is pointing a gun at someone demanding they include trans characters, diverse characters whatever the "anti politics" crowd doesn't like.
The Japanese market has to actually be receptive to those ideas. Like again, we are in an age where anime is still largely adaptions, and those adaptions are largely only supported by Japan unlike anime adaptions. They are determining what gets made. No one is pointing a gun at someone demanding they include trans characters, diverse characters whatever the "anti politics" crowd doesn't like.
do you even know what i said?
i have NEVER complained about "diverse characters" in manga/anime
its been like that pretty much since the beginning, and the people that complain about the inclusion of that stuff are probably just newer watchers
why are you bringing that up?
EcchiGodMamster said: NO... they couldn't, especially since modern feminism is arguably BIGGEST reason for the worldwide population decline women obsessing over making money and advancing their careers = less children no the fuck does Japan need more of that Doesn't Japan have one of the lowest birth rates in the world? 🙃 EcchiGodMamster said: again, you know what the fuck im talking about when i say diversity in the west vs divesity in east asia Yes. Anyone darker than a tanned white person... EcchiGodMamster said: but one major one i can think of the Mushoku Tensei's english manga having to be reprinted because westerners nerfed/butcherd the dialoge to make it "less offensive" No leftist is watching Mushoku Tensei. EcchiGodMamster said: ok cool, well im never going to stop defending freedom of expression Until they do something that you don't like. Then you'll campaign for them to flop. |
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BilboBaggins365 said:
No I just find your justification flimsy.
No I just find your justification flimsy.
well thats too bad i guess
BilboBaggins365 said:
I don't think woman's rights are bad lol. If there is population decline because we don't treat women as inferiors, I would rather population decline, and figure out how to deal with population decline through tech. I don't see how you could defend people getting paid for less, for something they cannot biologically can help.
I don't think woman's rights are bad lol. If there is population decline because we don't treat women as inferiors, I would rather population decline, and figure out how to deal with population decline through tech. I don't see how you could defend people getting paid for less, for something they cannot biologically can help.
women were overall happier in the past, they actually gave a shit about having children and a strong man by their side instead of this "i don't need no man", "kids are a burden" propaganda garbage we have today (including in Japan)
and when we look at Japan, which is arguably the most depressed country in the world, we can easily see the results
which woman is happier? the one with 4 kids and a husband who pays the bills as she stays at home raising her children or the feminist who can't find a man because she spent her younger years worrying about how men make more money than her?
BilboBaggins365 said:
I would say you are on drugs but okay...not going to fight this.
I would say you are on drugs but okay...not going to fight this.
I've never even tried weed
i don't smoke or drink, i just know that no one ages that much in 3 years
BilboBaggins365 said:
Beyond what you reasonably can control, aka buying or not buying something yeah. Creatives have the ultimate control, and those guys often are accountable to big publishers/media companies. I can get upset that works don't cater to me, however, I will move on, and find something that does. We are in a media surplus, it's not that hard. If anything I have too much stuff to read, watch or engage with. It probably would take me multiple life times as it is, before I actually get bored.
Beyond what you reasonably can control, aka buying or not buying something yeah. Creatives have the ultimate control, and those guys often are accountable to big publishers/media companies. I can get upset that works don't cater to me, however, I will move on, and find something that does. We are in a media surplus, it's not that hard. If anything I have too much stuff to read, watch or engage with. It probably would take me multiple life times as it is, before I actually get bored.
just because i can "just go back to older anime" or "find something else" doesn't mean im not gonna be salty about (at least potentially) losing something i love
if you don't want to complain about it, then don't, but your'e not stopping people like me from complaining, regardless of what can be done
if you don't complain, they won't fix anything, and yes, dumb decisions HAVE BEEN REVERSED because fans complained... just look at the Sonic movie as one of the biggest examples
ZZZ had a censorship scandal that was immediately reversed when fans complained
BilboBaggins365 said:
If you want to yell into the aether you do you, I find it pointless, which yeah these convos also feel that way. I hope this is the last low key culture war thread I stupidly get into.
If you want to yell into the aether you do you, I find it pointless, which yeah these convos also feel that way. I hope this is the last low key culture war thread I stupidly get into.
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BilboBaggins365 said:
If you want to nobly believe you are doing that, go ahead.
If you want to nobly believe you are doing that, go ahead.
i am
BilboBaggins365 said:
No though I can see the conversation is done here.
No though I can see the conversation is done here.
finally
i dont' consider those people anime fans, so fuck their opinions, gatekeep them too
BilboBaggins365 said:
Some of the worst ones, are older fans in my experiance but okay.
Some of the worst ones, are older fans in my experiance but okay.
well i don't know where you're getting that impression from, and i dont know how long you've been part of the anime community, but i've defintiely been in it FAR LONGER and i don't remember "right wingers" in the anime community raging about gay this gay that, trans this, trans that in the past
not saying it didn't exist
EcchiGodMamster said: women were overall happier in the past, they actually gave a shit about having children and a strong man by their side instead of this "i don't need no man", "kids are a burden" propaganda garbage we have today (including in Japan) Umm... What??? EcchiGodMamster said: and when we look at Japan, which is arguably the most depressed country in the world, we can easily see the results Isn't Japan the most traditional? EcchiGodMamster said: i don't remember "right wingers" in the anime community raging about gay this gay that, trans this, trans that in the past Y'all are raging now. |
LuxuriousHeart said: Yeah that was when I was done with this conversation lol. Umm... What??? LuxuriousHeart said: Finland ranks the happiest country in the world consistently, and they are pretty socially liberal, which again if you look at happiest nations in the world they directly contradict his sexist narrative. Tons and tons of "traditional" countries are incredibly depressed. It is a bad argument. Which again, I am surprised we have to argue that women receiving equal pay, or the right to choose to work is a bad thing however, this community goes lower lol. Good on MAL for encouraging me to get off social media entirely, because this last vestige is nothing but idiotic toxicity. Isn't Japan the most traditional? LuxuriousHeart said: I think there is an argument that feminism has led to lower birth rates (this isn't inherantly a bad thing, women shouldn't be forced into an unhappy marriage). Still you can attribute to a lot of things, social welfare etc. None of these are bad either. Plus, tons of traditional societies, like in an extreme case Iran, which is way more socially conservative than Japan also possess a pretty low birth rate. So it is a lot more complicated, and probably just the result of a changing world. Or you know, it varies depending on the nation. Isn't Japan the most traditional? I would argue stress both culturally and financially are way bigger factors in countries like Japan and Korea. Plus...I mean people today, just want to have "good lives" and children are a major burden. I say that as someone who wouldn't mind having them. You still have to be very emotionally mature, socially/economically stable to properly raise one. Of course you don't have to raise them properly however, I bet in countries like Korea/Japan they do, so they have less cause many adults realize how much effort they have to put in to become good parents. You probably could alleviate some of this with better social support networks, and I am not going to argue the gender war isn't a thing or contributing but it's not like it comes out of nowhere either. Ideally you have to promote conversations between genders/sexes that foster open/healthy dialogue because there are always legitimate concerns people can bring up. Anyway surprised mods haven't killed this thread yet lol |
BilboBaggins365May 19, 1:22 AM
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Reply to derangedx29
@valico no it's absolutely true and you know it. Arguably less cringe too.
All those car decals of anime girls? That shit is way more embarrassing than hare hare yukai dancing teens of the 2000s
All those car decals of anime girls? That shit is way more embarrassing than hare hare yukai dancing teens of the 2000s
| @derangedx29 the itasha is a proud and noble tradition |
Reply to YuriYilzlize
🔹 Smaller Anime Community
✅ Positive:
Fans are more passionate & loyal.
Less drama, less toxicity.
More deep convos and underrated anime get love.
❌ Negative:
Hard to access anime (slow subs, rare merch).
Fewer anime made because less money in the industry.
Less variety — mostly the same shows shared around.
✅ Positive:
Fans are more passionate & loyal.
Less drama, less toxicity.
More deep convos and underrated anime get love.
❌ Negative:
Hard to access anime (slow subs, rare merch).
Fewer anime made because less money in the industry.
Less variety — mostly the same shows shared around.
YuriYilzlize said: Less variety — mostly the same shows shared around. The variety of anime was much more in the 80s and the 90s compared to today where more anime are made but with much less variety, so your logic is faulty. What the hell is" slow subs" anyway? And the amount of money in the industry got nothing to do with the size of comınunity. And I can't believe this dumspter fire is still going on. |
JoeChipMay 19, 11:59 AM
Reply to BilboBaggins365
LuxuriousHeart said:
Umm... What???
Yeah that was when I was done with this conversation lol. Umm... What???
LuxuriousHeart said:
Isn't Japan the most traditional?
Finland ranks the happiest country in the world consistently, and they are pretty socially liberal, which again if you look at happiest nations in the world they directly contradict his sexist narrative. Tons and tons of "traditional" countries are incredibly depressed. It is a bad argument. Which again, I am surprised we have to argue that women receiving equal pay, or the right to choose to work is a bad thing however, this community goes lower lol. Good on MAL for encouraging me to get off social media entirely, because this last vestige is nothing but idiotic toxicity. Isn't Japan the most traditional?
LuxuriousHeart said:
Isn't Japan the most traditional?
I think there is an argument that feminism has led to lower birth rates (this isn't inherantly a bad thing, women shouldn't be forced into an unhappy marriage). Still you can attribute to a lot of things, social welfare etc. None of these are bad either. Plus, tons of traditional societies, like in an extreme case Iran, which is way more socially conservative than Japan also possess a pretty low birth rate. So it is a lot more complicated, and probably just the result of a changing world. Or you know, it varies depending on the nation. Isn't Japan the most traditional?
I would argue stress both culturally and financially are way bigger factors in countries like Japan and Korea. Plus...I mean people today, just want to have "good lives" and children are a major burden. I say that as someone who wouldn't mind having them. You still have to be very emotionally mature, socially/economically stable to properly raise one. Of course you don't have to raise them properly however, I bet in countries like Korea/Japan they do, so they have less cause many adults realize how much effort they have to put in to become good parents. You probably could alleviate some of this with better social support networks, and I am not going to argue the gender war isn't a thing or contributing but it's not like it comes out of nowhere either. Ideally you have to promote conversations between genders/sexes that foster open/healthy dialogue because there are always legitimate concerns people can bring up.
Anyway surprised mods haven't killed this thread yet lol
| @BilboBaggins365 I'm part of the problem because I don't want kids. But like... No one would want me to be a parent. I have mental issues, and mental illness is on both sides of my family. So, I would hope that a normal person wouldn't want me to be a mom. Also, I'm prone to depression and will isolate myself to my room. That is a TERRIBLE thing for a parent to do. No idea why they want all women to push out babies despite whether we want to, or whether we're able to. |
LuxuriousHeart said: No idea why they want all women to push out babies Natural selection, traits that favor childlessness diminish over time, due to lack of offspring, so most remaining people are bound to promote childbearing. There may be cultural developments that cause a short term increase, but in the long term it will diminish again. |
ZarutakuMay 19, 4:23 PM
Reply to JoeChip
YuriYilzlize said:
Less variety — mostly the same shows shared around.
Less variety — mostly the same shows shared around.
The variety of anime was much more in the 80s and the 90s compared to today where more anime are made but with much less variety, so your logic is faulty.
What the hell is" slow subs" anyway?
And the amount of money in the industry got nothing to do with the size of comınunity.
And I can't believe this dumspter fire is still going on.
| @JoeChip and i use to give some variable version about the qustion about, so i need some conclusion by ai, from my own though. |
Reply to sorcery
@valico
If you see more of my posts, you will notice that I am mostly driven by intellectual curiosity. Watching the very bad isn't necessarily endorsing the very bad. That's why I never watch critically panned titles as they are airing. To not give them brownie points of any sort.
I choose my Plan to Watch Hentai according to how ballistic I think they will get. It's been awhile since last I watched one, because it's rare to stumble upon something which is made with crazy comical genius. Most of the titles are just going through the motion to fulfill one's sexual fantasy. And that's it. You see, earnest execution can aggrandize something I usually despise.
If you see more of my posts, you will notice that I am mostly driven by intellectual curiosity. Watching the very bad isn't necessarily endorsing the very bad. That's why I never watch critically panned titles as they are airing. To not give them brownie points of any sort.
I choose my Plan to Watch Hentai according to how ballistic I think they will get. It's been awhile since last I watched one, because it's rare to stumble upon something which is made with crazy comical genius. Most of the titles are just going through the motion to fulfill one's sexual fantasy. And that's it. You see, earnest execution can aggrandize something I usually despise.
| @sorcery I recommend you check out Kansen Sodom. It's the funniest hentai i've seen yet, bar none. |
Reply to derangedx29
@LuxuriousHeart the Chud right wingers right now are making the SAME mistake as Bush era politicians did. Do you know why 30-40 YO women in the US are so liberal? Because American right wing went full batshit in the 2000s with religion.
The Christians i criticized that are younger and even MORE extreme will only push women more to the left. I wouldn't be surprised if the young 20 something women today are far to the left of millennial women.
The young women of today are more likely to go the Taylor Swift route than wanting kids.
Who the fuck wants to marry some trad catholic weirdo? Nobody. That's who.
The Christians i criticized that are younger and even MORE extreme will only push women more to the left. I wouldn't be surprised if the young 20 something women today are far to the left of millennial women.
The young women of today are more likely to go the Taylor Swift route than wanting kids.
Who the fuck wants to marry some trad catholic weirdo? Nobody. That's who.
| @derangedx29 Yeah, that would be the smart thing. More women being single and just owning pet. Personally, I won't even do that. I'm not mentally well enough to take care of another living being. Especially since I have to take care of myself and cook for my family. I'd just rather not. Especially with the crop of men today. I'm personally religious (and spiritual). Though some of these religious people are creepy. Though luckily for me. I creep out some religious people as well, since I love astrology and tarot. My sister even did tarot readings before. And with all of that, I see nothing wrong with a black cat. If I were mentally well enough to own a pet, I'd have a black cat and name her Midnight. I'm also bi, which puts off religious people. XD! |
| I was messing around with AI and this response reminded me of this gem of a thread. How do I earn major cred as a weeb? To earn major cred as a weeb—someone deeply immersed in anime and manga culture—you need to go beyond casual viewing and show genuine knowledge, passion, and engagement with the community. Here’s a concise guide to level up your weeb status, tailored to your interest in anime like Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood: Deep Dive into Anime and Manga: Watch classics and critically acclaimed series like Neon Genesis Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and Hunter x Hunter, alongside newer hits like Jujutsu Kaisen or Demon Slayer. Read manga, especially originals like Berserk or One Piece, to understand source material. Knowing the differences between adaptations (e.g., Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 vs. Brotherhood) shows depth. Explore subgenres like mecha, isekai, or psychological thrillers to broaden your palette. Learn the Culture and Context: Study Japanese culture, history, and tropes that influence anime—samurai ethics in Rurouni Kenshin or Shinto themes in Spirited Away. Learn basic Japanese phrases or terms like “tsundere” and “senpai” to sprinkle into discussions naturally. Understanding studios (e.g., Studio Ghibli, MAPPA) and directors (e.g., Hayao Miyazaki, Hideaki Anno) adds cred. Engage with the Community: Join forums like MyAnimeList, Reddit’s r/anime, or X discussions to share hot takes, like why Evangelion’s ending is divisive. Attend cons like Anime Expo or Crunchyroll Expo, cosplay (start simple, like Edward Elric’s red coat), and talk shop with fans. Share fan art or memes on X, but keep it authentic—don’t force “waifu” jokes. Collect and Show Off: Grab merch like figures, posters, or manga volumes, but focus on quality over quantity—a rare Attack on Titan Levi figure beats a shelf of knockoffs. Limited-edition Blu-rays or soundtracks (like Taku Iwasaki’s Mononoke the Movie score, which you asked about before) flex your dedication. Create or Analyze: Write reviews, start a blog, or post video essays on X about themes in Brotherhood (e.g., equivalent exchange). Break down animation techniques or voice acting (e.g., Romi Park as Edward). If you’re artsy, draw fan art or write fanfiction—originality gets respect. Stay Humble and Curious: Real weebs don’t gatekeep or flex superiority. Ask questions, seek recs, and admit gaps in your watchlist. Cred comes from passion, not pretending you’ve seen every obscure OVA. Quick Tips: Track your anime/manga on MyAnimeList for street cred. Watch subs over dubs to catch original voice acting nuances (though dubs like Cowboy Bebop are exceptions). Avoid cringe over-enthusiasm—don’t call everything “kawaii” or yell “dattebayo” in public. If you want specifics, like con tips or a starter watchlist, let me know! I realized 2 things from this response: 1. AI is already the more based weeb with superior social tact than us as a collective. 2. I really should have asked for the starter watchlist... |
| Don't let others ruin things for you. Even if a toxic fan pisses in your cereal, you could just get another bowl of cereal. The 50 Anime You Should Watch Before You Die |
Reply to SignsOfSuicide
I was messing around with AI and this response reminded me of this gem of a thread.
How do I earn major cred as a weeb?
To earn major cred as a weeb—someone deeply immersed in anime and manga culture—you need to go beyond casual viewing and show genuine knowledge, passion, and engagement with the community. Here’s a concise guide to level up your weeb status, tailored to your interest in anime like Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood:
Deep Dive into Anime and Manga: Watch classics and critically acclaimed series like Neon Genesis Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and Hunter x Hunter, alongside newer hits like Jujutsu Kaisen or Demon Slayer. Read manga, especially originals like Berserk or One Piece, to understand source material. Knowing the differences between adaptations (e.g., Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 vs. Brotherhood) shows depth. Explore subgenres like mecha, isekai, or psychological thrillers to broaden your palette.
Learn the Culture and Context: Study Japanese culture, history, and tropes that influence anime—samurai ethics in Rurouni Kenshin or Shinto themes in Spirited Away. Learn basic Japanese phrases or terms like “tsundere” and “senpai” to sprinkle into discussions naturally. Understanding studios (e.g., Studio Ghibli, MAPPA) and directors (e.g., Hayao Miyazaki, Hideaki Anno) adds cred.
Engage with the Community: Join forums like MyAnimeList, Reddit’s r/anime, or X discussions to share hot takes, like why Evangelion’s ending is divisive. Attend cons like Anime Expo or Crunchyroll Expo, cosplay (start simple, like Edward Elric’s red coat), and talk shop with fans. Share fan art or memes on X, but keep it authentic—don’t force “waifu” jokes.
Collect and Show Off: Grab merch like figures, posters, or manga volumes, but focus on quality over quantity—a rare Attack on Titan Levi figure beats a shelf of knockoffs. Limited-edition Blu-rays or soundtracks (like Taku Iwasaki’s Mononoke the Movie score, which you asked about before) flex your dedication.
Create or Analyze: Write reviews, start a blog, or post video essays on X about themes in Brotherhood (e.g., equivalent exchange). Break down animation techniques or voice acting (e.g., Romi Park as Edward). If you’re artsy, draw fan art or write fanfiction—originality gets respect.
Stay Humble and Curious: Real weebs don’t gatekeep or flex superiority. Ask questions, seek recs, and admit gaps in your watchlist. Cred comes from passion, not pretending you’ve seen every obscure OVA.
Quick Tips: Track your anime/manga on MyAnimeList for street cred.
Watch subs over dubs to catch original voice acting nuances (though dubs like Cowboy Bebop are exceptions).
Avoid cringe over-enthusiasm—don’t call everything “kawaii” or yell “dattebayo” in public.
If you want specifics, like con tips or a starter watchlist, let me know!
I realized 2 things from this response:
1. AI is already the more based weeb with superior social tact than us as a collective.
2. I really should have asked for the starter watchlist...
How do I earn major cred as a weeb?
To earn major cred as a weeb—someone deeply immersed in anime and manga culture—you need to go beyond casual viewing and show genuine knowledge, passion, and engagement with the community. Here’s a concise guide to level up your weeb status, tailored to your interest in anime like Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood:
Deep Dive into Anime and Manga: Watch classics and critically acclaimed series like Neon Genesis Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and Hunter x Hunter, alongside newer hits like Jujutsu Kaisen or Demon Slayer. Read manga, especially originals like Berserk or One Piece, to understand source material. Knowing the differences between adaptations (e.g., Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 vs. Brotherhood) shows depth. Explore subgenres like mecha, isekai, or psychological thrillers to broaden your palette.
Learn the Culture and Context: Study Japanese culture, history, and tropes that influence anime—samurai ethics in Rurouni Kenshin or Shinto themes in Spirited Away. Learn basic Japanese phrases or terms like “tsundere” and “senpai” to sprinkle into discussions naturally. Understanding studios (e.g., Studio Ghibli, MAPPA) and directors (e.g., Hayao Miyazaki, Hideaki Anno) adds cred.
Engage with the Community: Join forums like MyAnimeList, Reddit’s r/anime, or X discussions to share hot takes, like why Evangelion’s ending is divisive. Attend cons like Anime Expo or Crunchyroll Expo, cosplay (start simple, like Edward Elric’s red coat), and talk shop with fans. Share fan art or memes on X, but keep it authentic—don’t force “waifu” jokes.
Collect and Show Off: Grab merch like figures, posters, or manga volumes, but focus on quality over quantity—a rare Attack on Titan Levi figure beats a shelf of knockoffs. Limited-edition Blu-rays or soundtracks (like Taku Iwasaki’s Mononoke the Movie score, which you asked about before) flex your dedication.
Create or Analyze: Write reviews, start a blog, or post video essays on X about themes in Brotherhood (e.g., equivalent exchange). Break down animation techniques or voice acting (e.g., Romi Park as Edward). If you’re artsy, draw fan art or write fanfiction—originality gets respect.
Stay Humble and Curious: Real weebs don’t gatekeep or flex superiority. Ask questions, seek recs, and admit gaps in your watchlist. Cred comes from passion, not pretending you’ve seen every obscure OVA.
Quick Tips: Track your anime/manga on MyAnimeList for street cred.
Watch subs over dubs to catch original voice acting nuances (though dubs like Cowboy Bebop are exceptions).
Avoid cringe over-enthusiasm—don’t call everything “kawaii” or yell “dattebayo” in public.
If you want specifics, like con tips or a starter watchlist, let me know!
I realized 2 things from this response:
1. AI is already the more based weeb with superior social tact than us as a collective.
2. I really should have asked for the starter watchlist...
| @SignsOfSuicide not very based because they left out Shoujo and Josei. |
Reply to LuxuriousHeart
@SignsOfSuicide not very based because they left out Shoujo and Josei.
| @LuxuriousHeart At least it would "Ask questions, seek recs, and admit gaps in its watchlist." though. lol |
| Don't let others ruin things for you. Even if a toxic fan pisses in your cereal, you could just get another bowl of cereal. The 50 Anime You Should Watch Before You Die |
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