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age gaps, power imbalances, just seeming like a bad match or being polar opposites

Mizuho and Kei in please teacher in Please Teacher, a student and teacher but they genuinely love each other

The couple in My Sweet Tyrant (Akkun to Kanojo)

Nobue and The Girls in Strawberry Marshmallow

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May 9, 1:21 PM
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Super Lovers is actually wholesome and even has a hot MILF and a cool trans woman.

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The relationship in Boku no Pico obviously.
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Toga and Twice from My Hero Academia.
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Probably several Fruits Basket relationships.
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  • Girl x Dog
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Old male teacher x teenage/young adult female student

Old female teacher x teenage/young adult male student

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Fruits Basket have some and are all well written for different reasons.

I also liked Koikimo, they really didn't step back with the relationship like After the Rain (still good series)
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Sibling incest is definitely sweet and wholesome.
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Well, someone else's "taboo" and "problematic" is usually my sweet and wholesome, to begin with.

Probably because what even makes them designated as such in some people's minds is often rooted in ignorance and misinformation, judging people in a stereotypical and generalized manner owing to nothing more than demographics and genetics like what general age bracket or bloodline they belong to and expecting certain motives or behavior predicated on that basis alone.

Many people have gross and unfounded misconceptions and preconceptions of things like how others should act or what they should want/desire/seek based on nothing other than categories like their biological age or sex or inherited role or national/cultural identity they had no say in. They base those misconceptions on whether something is in line with their own life or in line with their ideal and values personal to them. The framing of the whole thing is fundamentally wrong at a conceptual level.
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Old male teacher x teenage/young adult female student

Old female teacher x teenage/young adult male student

@tchitchouan lol, is this from some series or just a meme?
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@tchitchouan lol, is this from some series or just a meme?
@BirdyTheMighty It's from persona 5 and a canonical romantic route you could choose in the game.

https://myanimelist.net/character/142795/Ren_Amamiya
https://myanimelist.net/character/165085/Sadayo_Kawakami

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Kazuya and his rental girlfriend Chizuru.
The foot fetish laden student-teacher relationship of Kotonoha no Niwa
The guidance and protection Yoshida extends to Sayu in Higehiro (may not be a romantic relationship?)
The step-sibling relationships in Gimai Seikatsu, Domestic Girlfriend, and Tsurekano
Freed slave relationships like in Madome or Ikenaikyo
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Mahoutsukai no Yome's (Ancient Magus Bride's) Chise and Elias.

The premise is easily enough to raise eyebrows. Chise is a very vulnerable, mentally disturbed, traumatized and very underraged girl, I believe 15 years old.... who was bought off the black market (she literally sold herself into human trafficking to feel like she was wanted by someone -the person who would buy her-, not a healthy mental state at all) by an ancient magus fellow who's literally ancient so hundreds if not thousands of years old.

He buys her to have her become his eventual wife. First thing he does when he brings her home is attempt to undress her to.......give her a bath... (But Chise protests and says she can do it herself and he leaves her to it thankfully.)

Now from that premise alone you could easily assume Elias is a creepy pervert p*do though and that he is planning to groom Chise into his wife...

In actuality though, Elias is a really strange creature, very much non-human and doesn't understand regular human emotions and things like like romance or sexual urges.

He doesn't force any of that stuff on Chise and frankly he probably wouldn't even know how to or want to.

He just wanted a wife so he could have a companion....and so he could learn more about and understand human emotions more, but he's not pushing the issue and wants Chise to do things at her own pace.

He gives her a place where she feels like she finally belongs and they get closer gradually as they open up to each other more. Their relationship is pretty wholesome overall and I'm not even sure I'd call the first season at least even really romance? They're very close for sure, but Elias is still pretty clueless about romance at least by the end I think.
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Mahoutsukai no Yome's (Ancient Magus Bride's) Chise and Elias.

The premise is easily enough to raise eyebrows. Chise is a very vulnerable, mentally disturbed, traumatized and very underraged girl, I believe 15 years old.... who was bought off the black market (she literally sold herself into human trafficking to feel like she was wanted by someone -the person who would buy her-, not a healthy mental state at all) by an ancient magus fellow who's literally ancient so hundreds if not thousands of years old.

He buys her to have her become his eventual wife. First thing he does when he brings her home is attempt to undress her to.......give her a bath... (But Chise protests and says she can do it herself and he leaves her to it thankfully.)

Now from that premise alone you could easily assume Elias is a creepy pervert p*do though and that he is planning to groom Chise into his wife...

In actuality though, Elias is a really strange creature, very much non-human and doesn't understand regular human emotions and things like like romance or sexual urges.

He doesn't force any of that stuff on Chise and frankly he probably wouldn't even know how to or want to.

He just wanted a wife so he could have a companion....and so he could learn more about and understand human emotions more, but he's not pushing the issue and wants Chise to do things at her own pace.

He gives her a place where she feels like she finally belongs and they get closer gradually as they open up to each other more. Their relationship is pretty wholesome overall and I'm not even sure I'd call the first season at least even really romance? They're very close for sure, but Elias is still pretty clueless about romance at least by the end I think.
@aweebwhoexists right. Please learn the definition of pedo (no, seriously. actually go out there and read the definition, not some ideologically loaded bullshit).


But other than that, based choice👌
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@KeepCalmAndMal good. And definitely don't read that shit (like, ever).

Fuck Usagi Drop
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@BirdyTheMighty It's from persona 5 and a canonical romantic route you could choose in the game.

https://myanimelist.net/character/142795/Ren_Amamiya
https://myanimelist.net/character/165085/Sadayo_Kawakami

@tchitchouan awww hell no, I have to play a game for the story? Fuck man, I ain't a gamer.

Hope they make anime with the pairing. But thanks for the info anyways
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Haru x Sora.

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@tchitchouan awww hell no, I have to play a game for the story? Fuck man, I ain't a gamer.

Hope they make anime with the pairing. But thanks for the info anyways
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Hope they make anime with the pairing. But thanks for the info anyways

They kinda did (in some episodes at least)

May 9, 5:43 PM
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It's not romantic relationship (Thankfully) but still toxic af Umaru Chan
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@KeepCalmAndMal good. And definitely don't read that shit (like, ever).

Fuck Usagi Drop
@BirdyTheMighty @KeepCalmAndMal yeah Usagi Drop is like the opposite. The anime is supposed to be wholesome and then it turns into some real taboo shit.

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@BirdyTheMighty @KeepCalmAndMal yeah Usagi Drop is like the opposite. The anime is supposed to be wholesome and then it turns into some real taboo shit.
@Israel_Is_Evil yeah, about that - to me the "taboo" part isnt the issue,
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Hope they make anime with the pairing. But thanks for the info anyways

They kinda did (in some episodes at least)

@tchitchouan noice 👌. Might check it out then.
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@Israel_Is_Evil yeah, about that - to me the "taboo" part isnt the issue,
@BirdyTheMighty I never read the manga partly because I was warned where the story was headed after posting in a thread how I liked the anime. Knowing that totally ruined it for me, although I had already completed it.

Still I guess it's not a bad anime. It's little funny the manga has a female writer but the anime is a written and directed by men. It was Taku Kishimoto's first job after leaving Ghibli apparently.

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Old male teacher x teenage/young adult female student

Old female teacher x teenage/young adult male student

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Gosh darn it I was going to name that one too! XD
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Sadly, there's no anime equivalent to what Itou Hachi makes.

I feel that the concept of "problematic/taboo" is very arbitrary, though. Like, my mind can't even see incest between sibling or a college junior dating a middle-schooler as fetish because I just see those things as 100% normal.
So maybe you could say that I respect Watashi no Oshi wa Akuyaku Reijou for straight up saying that, yeah, siblings who love one another isn't that different from a gay relationship.

Oh wait, there is something!
In Heion Sedai no Idaten-tachi, in order to repopulate their race, Miku and Meruku raise two babies from birth to be their husbands.

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Maybe not that kind of relationship. I really love the bond between Satou and Shio in Happy Sugar Life.
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Ryou Amakusa x Ichika Arima from Koikimo

Well that's the point of the show, he's 27, she's 17 and after he starts to like her, he becomes persistent and yeah, I love it XD. I need more show's with a high-school girl x older guy ngl.
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I need more show's with a high-school girl x older guy ngl.

Not exactly, but maybe close enough: https://myanimelist.net/anime/55150/Yarinaoshi_Reijou_wa_Ryuutei_Heika_wo_Kouryakuchuu
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I need more show's with a high-school girl x older guy ngl.

Not exactly, but maybe close enough: https://myanimelist.net/anime/55150/Yarinaoshi_Reijou_wa_Ryuutei_Heika_wo_Kouryakuchuu
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Masahiro and Kousuke from Hitorijime my Hero.

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Ignoring those which are controversial for meaningless reasons....

- Raphtalia & Naofumi (Shield Hero)
- Ayase Saki & Asamura Yuuta (Gimai Seikatsu)
- Irido Yume & Irido Mizuto (Tsurekano)
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WaterMage said:
Ignoring those which are controversial for meaningless reasons....

- Raphtalia & Naofumi (Shield Hero)

So this ship seems controversial for a meaningful reason? Why? Because he freed her from slavery by buying her?
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in this thread:

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@aweebwhoexists right. Please learn the definition of pedo (no, seriously. actually go out there and read the definition, not some ideologically loaded bullshit).


But other than that, based choice👌
@BirdyTheMighty I do realize that someone who is into teenagers (not prepubescent children) would technically be referred to as an ephebophile, yes.

But regardless, both are variants of being into minors as a grown adult...and I honestly don't really care to differentiate between the two most of the time. I just don't lol.

In western society, both are very much taboo anyway, athough one is obviously even worse than the other.

That being said, my post was clearly saying I DON'T think Elias is a p*do or any variant of that. I don't think he's capable of that as a character.

But as an outsider looking in, it might be easy to assume that without watching the show, that's all I was saying.
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WaterMage said:
Ignoring those which are controversial for meaningless reasons....

- Raphtalia & Naofumi (Shield Hero)

So this ship seems controversial for a meaningful reason? Why? Because he freed her from slavery by buying her?
@Zarutaku that + age gap. Where she levelled up/aged up suddenly but other demi humans didn't. Which is a plot armour. But I don't care.

Slavery is the main controversy but again Naofumi did nothing wrong.
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aweebwhoexists said:
In western society, both are very much taboo anyway, athough one is obviously even worse than the other.

Probably taboo in society, but not necessarily reflected in the law, many western countries allow 16+ year old minors to have a romance with adults under certain conditions.
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In western society, both are very much taboo anyway, athough one is obviously even worse than the other.

Probably taboo in society, but not necessarily reflected in the law, many western countries allow 16+ year old minors to have a romance with adults under certain conditions.
@Zarutaku exactly 👌

It doesn't matter if you decide to call a cactus a dildo (and even genuinely start believing it to be true), you're still gonna end up with spikes stuck in your ass if you try to use it as one. I prefer to live in reality, even if it's socially taboo.


I also find it funny how those same folks like to treat people as children right up to their 18th birthday, and then expect (and demand) the same person to be a responsible and capable adult right away at turning 18. And then they have a surprise pickachu face when the now legally "adult" person is a fuckin kid mentally 😂
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sweetest and purest relationship I have ever witnessed

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Ignoring those which are controversial for meaningless reasons....

- Raphtalia & Naofumi (Shield Hero)

So this ship seems controversial for a meaningful reason? Why? Because he freed her from slavery by buying her?
@Zarutaku I think that (that she was her slave) and the fact Raphtalia looked like a child, so the relationship has a lot of grooming vibes. Of course it's a fantasy so to take with a grain of salt, but if you want to trace real life parallels to toxic relationships you can.
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@Zarutaku I think that (that she was her slave) and the fact Raphtalia looked like a child, so the relationship has a lot of grooming vibes. Of course it's a fantasy so to take with a grain of salt, but if you want to trace real life parallels to toxic relationships you can.
@jal90 It seems many people misuse the term grooming, because it requires intent by the groomer, but Naofumi had no such intent, Raphtalia just fell in love with him, that's not grooming.
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@jal90 It seems many people misuse the term grooming, because it requires intent by the groomer, but Naofumi had no such intent, Raphtalia just fell in love with him, that's not grooming.
@Zarutaku I agree, but it's also true that well, Raphtalia looked like a child when Naofumi met her, while Naofumi has been a full grown adult since the beginning. This is a fantasy scenario so no use to judging it like real life, but it would definitely look creepy outside of its realm.
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Old male teacher x teenage/young adult female student

Old female teacher x teenage/young adult male student

@tchitchouan man, he's living the dream xD
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Mahoutsukai no Yome's (Ancient Magus Bride's) Chise and Elias.

The premise is easily enough to raise eyebrows. Chise is a very vulnerable, mentally disturbed, traumatized and very underraged girl, I believe 15 years old.... who was bought off the black market (she literally sold herself into human trafficking to feel like she was wanted by someone -the person who would buy her-, not a healthy mental state at all) by an ancient magus fellow who's literally ancient so hundreds if not thousands of years old.

He buys her to have her become his eventual wife. First thing he does when he brings her home is attempt to undress her to.......give her a bath... (But Chise protests and says she can do it herself and he leaves her to it thankfully.)

Now from that premise alone you could easily assume Elias is a creepy pervert p*do though and that he is planning to groom Chise into his wife...

In actuality though, Elias is a really strange creature, very much non-human and doesn't understand regular human emotions and things like like romance or sexual urges.

He doesn't force any of that stuff on Chise and frankly he probably wouldn't even know how to or want to.

He just wanted a wife so he could have a companion....and so he could learn more about and understand human emotions more, but he's not pushing the issue and wants Chise to do things at her own pace.

He gives her a place where she feels like she finally belongs and they get closer gradually as they open up to each other more. Their relationship is pretty wholesome overall and I'm not even sure I'd call the first season at least even really romance? They're very close for sure, but Elias is still pretty clueless about romance at least by the end I think.
@aweebwhoexists This is a pretty good example, why did I not think of that?

Personally I like occasional change in power dynamics within the realationship between Elias and Chise once it is established that Elias' emotional intelligence is close to a child and has to rely on Chise teaching him about and interpreting his feelings.
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@tchitchouan man, he's living the dream xD
@Hiyajo-san Oh yeah, what if the roles were reversed, would the girl be living the dream. Double standard much ?

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@Hiyajo-san Oh yeah, what if the roles were reversed, would the girl be living the dream. Double standard much ?

@tchitchouan I'm cracking one joke and you mercilessly get back at me with reality

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@aweebwhoexists This is a pretty good example, why did I not think of that?

Personally I like occasional change in power dynamics within the realationship between Elias and Chise once it is established that Elias' emotional intelligence is close to a child and has to rely on Chise teaching him about and interpreting his feelings.
@Hiyajo-san Thanks! And maybe you didn't think of this show as an example because at least for me, after seeing the show, I kinda forget that their relationship would even be viewed as that "taboo sounding" when you're someone who hasn't seen the show reading the summary for the show lol. It was just that wholesome of a relationship in the actual show. xD

It was only when I told someone else I know about the series and they were like "hey isn't that age gap kinda messed up" when I remembered "oh yeah I guess some people who haven't seen the show would probably assume that it's sus" so that's kinda why I thought to mention it in this thread.

I totally agree though yeah, their relationship is pretty refreshing. And yeah true, Elias is super child-like/naïve in the simplified way he views human emotions so it's almost like their roles are reversed and she's his emotional "mentor" while he teaches her magic and other things.
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Kazuya and his rental girlfriend Chizuru.
The foot fetish laden student-teacher relationship of Kotonoha no Niwa
The guidance and protection Yoshida extends to Sayu in Higehiro (may not be a romantic relationship?)
The step-sibling relationships in Gimai Seikatsu, Domestic Girlfriend, and Tsurekano
Freed slave relationships like in Madome or Ikenaikyo
@GrumbleDango Higehiro is DEFINITELY not a romance, except the woman who rejects him finally takes him back. Too bad the Anime' didn't follow the Manga's conclusion though.

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