Forum SettingsEpisode Information
Forums
New
What did you think of this episode?
DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
Pages (2) « 1 [2]
May 1, 4:07 AM
Offline
Dec 2022
2317
Yup, animation is still atrocious.
Just came to see how episode 5 was and despite the story being good regardless of the cut content and some changes, the animation is still ass af.
My eyes bled from watching clips of episode 5.
Dropped ts at episode 1 and it really is sad how the animation keeps on getting worse. Smh.
Potential best anime of the season became the one with the worst animation this season.๐Ÿฅ€๐Ÿ’”
May 1, 4:24 AM
Offline
Jan 2025
23
There's No TBATE Anime (I am coping hard)
May 1, 4:25 AM
Offline
Jan 2025
23
That
Isn't
My
Glorious
Golden
Eyed
Blonde
Haired
King
Grey
May 1, 5:03 AM

Offline
Apr 2021
3361
Glorfindel_B said:
@ejleon don't cry chump The animations are terrible, you're still talking shamelessly, it's because of people like you that we can't eliminate this shit

I’m perfectly calm, I have no need to waste time and energy on nobodies like you, I just want my point to be clear.

Your illogical and illegitimate complaints are ruining anime each year and even making it harder for anime to be made.

Where I’m feeling blessed that an anime was made for this story, you want the companies to bow down to your opinions and demands, good luck with that.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

May 1, 6:47 AM

Offline
Aug 2016
548
Decent episode. Tessia is really adorable whenever she defends Arthur. That said, I'm still confused about the expression she made when Arthur was being apprehended by the elves—the one he was wondering about. I hope it gets explained soon.

Aside from Tessia, I really loved Virion. Even though he's supposed to be old, he was pretty badass—especially compared to his son, who's supposedly the king. I loved his voice actor, his debut, and his humble personality, despite being a former king.

That said, I'm still really confused about the pain Arthur feels from time to time. Apparently, Virion knows something about it, since as soon as Arthur collapsed to his knees, Virion commented, “I thought as much. You've inherited a beast will.”

I’m not exactly sure what he meant by that, but I think he's referring to whatever Sylvia gave Arthur before her death—whatever that might be. I’m guessing it’s some kind of inner power or force, like Naruto’s Kurama or Boruto’s Momoshiki. Seems like something along those lines. I hope Arthur learns to control it soon, because it sounds pretty cool. If he does, I’m pretty sure he’s going to become a lot stronger.
May 1, 7:21 AM
Offline
May 2018
9
Reply to ejleon
Glorfindel_B said:
@ejleon don't cry chump The animations are terrible, you're still talking shamelessly, it's because of people like you that we can't eliminate this shit

I’m perfectly calm, I have no need to waste time and energy on nobodies like you, I just want my point to be clear.

Your illogical and illegitimate complaints are ruining anime each year and even making it harder for anime to be made.

Where I’m feeling blessed that an anime was made for this story, you want the companies to bow down to your opinions and demands, good luck with that.
@ejleon you’re missing the point, criticizing bad anime is essential for the health of the medium. It’s not about tearing things down, it’s about holding creators accountable, raising standards, and pushing anime forward.

Without honest feedback, the same mistakes keep happening like poor writing, lazy animation, shallow characters, etc.

Ignoring or suppressing criticism doesn’t protect the anime industry, it weakens it.

Finally, a bad anime isn’t a blessing, it’s a curse that prevents a good story from ever being properly adapted, stripping it of the hype and recognition it could have had.
May 1, 8:21 AM
Offline
Jan 2025
23
๐ป๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘œ๐‘ข๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘‘ ๐บ๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘ฆ
May 1, 9:50 AM

Offline
Mar 2012
78
XArceusX said:
@ejleon I'm not sure why Tessia didn't come earlier to help Arthur. It’s unlikely she knew he had defeated the bandits, since Arthur had kept that fact from her. They also didn’t encounter any beasts on their way to her kingdom, so Arthur didn’t get a chance to show what he's capable of. There will probably be an explanation later, as Arthur himself questioned her behavior.

ejleon said:
reporting back to the other humans

Then they could’ve just imprisoned him—even the guard mentioned Arthur brainwashing her, as if he’s just a kid himself and even younger than Tessia.

I think she hesitated only as not wanting to seem like she was "siding with humans" and all that especially in her position as princess. She might have been fine letting guards take him prisoner until she could explain it to her parents, but when they said kill him she was forced to step in.
May 1, 10:11 AM
Offline
Sep 2020
202
Was hoping that the low animation wolf would return, he's my favourite :{

Nah but Arthur is really doing a bunch of side quests before going back to the main story.


May 1, 11:19 AM

Offline
Mar 2020
472
I would very seriously like to know who validated the studio that is animating this anime It's catastrophic but we've got it. Why am I complaining xD
May 1, 12:13 PM
Offline
Nov 2021
134
Reply to PedroKarim64
I would very seriously like to know who validated the studio that is animating this anime It's catastrophic but we've got it. Why am I complaining xD
@PedroKarim64 The author himself chose the studio, apparently discarding much more capable studios, but as he himself declared months ago "even if the anime will be horrible, it will still attract new readers", and considering that he earns mainly from book sales and patreon, this makes it clear what matters to him more between writing for passion and earning as much as possible.
May 1, 12:35 PM

Offline
Nov 2024
1135
Reply to ssjjfar
XArceusX said:
@ejleon I'm not sure why Tessia didn't come earlier to help Arthur. It’s unlikely she knew he had defeated the bandits, since Arthur had kept that fact from her. They also didn’t encounter any beasts on their way to her kingdom, so Arthur didn’t get a chance to show what he's capable of. There will probably be an explanation later, as Arthur himself questioned her behavior.

ejleon said:
reporting back to the other humans

Then they could’ve just imprisoned him—even the guard mentioned Arthur brainwashing her, as if he’s just a kid himself and even younger than Tessia.

I think she hesitated only as not wanting to seem like she was "siding with humans" and all that especially in her position as princess. She might have been fine letting guards take him prisoner until she could explain it to her parents, but when they said kill him she was forced to step in.
@ssjjfar I'm sure it wasn’t like that—after all, Tessia was going on about how Arthur was a good human, unlike others, with the guards, the maids, and even her family, not to mention the times she boldly stood up and made her father bend to her demands.
May 1, 1:42 PM

Offline
Mar 2020
472
Reply to Geracchio
@PedroKarim64 The author himself chose the studio, apparently discarding much more capable studios, but as he himself declared months ago "even if the anime will be horrible, it will still attract new readers", and considering that he earns mainly from book sales and patreon, this makes it clear what matters to him more between writing for passion and earning as much as possible.
@Geracchio Okay, I heard what you said, what you wrote. I don't claim to be the standard viewer reader of this story, but for example, adapting anime like this absolutely doesn't make me want to go and read! Adapting this work in this way, personally, is a very bad idea because it doesn't make people like me want to go and read the rest! (But then, I'm not discounting the fact that I could be alone in my thinking).
May 1, 3:05 PM
Offline
Mar 2020
212
is it just me or the slideshow is real in this anime? not even sure if I'm reading manga or watching anime....
May 1, 4:13 PM
Offline
Oct 2017
2
The music that starts playing around 16:23 sounds quite a bit like a Skye Cuillin by Kevin Macleod. I just kept thinking "where have I heard this before?" though that whole scene. I think its an original composition, but it certainly sounds like a derivative, I guess it must just be a common motif.
May 1, 6:06 PM
Offline
Oct 2024
86
Finally, fucking love Elder Virion
May 1, 9:51 PM
Offline
Nov 2021
134
Reply to PedroKarim64
@Geracchio Okay, I heard what you said, what you wrote. I don't claim to be the standard viewer reader of this story, but for example, adapting anime like this absolutely doesn't make me want to go and read! Adapting this work in this way, personally, is a very bad idea because it doesn't make people like me want to go and read the rest! (But then, I'm not discounting the fact that I could be alone in my thinking).
@PedroKarim64 I agree with you that many people are not encouraged to follow the series since this is the adaptation (and honestly the original material doesn't seem that great either) but that's not what the author thought, at least judging by his actions.
May 2, 7:34 AM
Offline
Jun 2007
773
Elves and humans are hostile to each other. But what was that initial reaction by Tessia...
Anyways seem like Grandpa Virion knew whats wrong with Art's "heart pain" eh
May 2, 8:54 AM
Offline
Apr 2024
1
Anime en power point litéralement...
May 2, 9:38 AM

Offline
May 2023
225
I'm not sure whether I should keep hoping this anime will eventually get better thanks to its amazing story, or just drop it altogether.

I hadn't read the LN or manhwa for "The Beginning After the End" before watching the anime, but after reading up to chapter 41 of the manhwa and seeing how much the anime changes certain things, I'm honestly disappointed. The director claimed he read both the novel and the manhwa and knew what the anime adaptation needed—but that feels like a flat-out lie. Either they've changed directors, or something else is going on, because the amount of changes made from the manhwa alters how key moments play out.

If I´m disappointent of how this is turning out, I can´t imagine what the LN/Manhwa long time readers must feel about this adaptation.

I can only hope this will get better with time, but it´s not looking good tbh.
"Deceive yourself in every last detail... Deceive the world. Do this, and victory is assured. Best of luck to you, old friend. El... Psy... Congroo." -- Hououin Kyouma



May 2, 1:46 PM

Offline
Mar 2010
56244
Not surprised of this outcome, but i'm interested what kinda training he will go through this time and how it has a connection with the so called will of the beast.

Behold of my awesomeness~
controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted.
But my feels.
May 2, 4:15 PM

Offline
Apr 2021
3361
Reply to k4zeman
@ejleon you’re missing the point, criticizing bad anime is essential for the health of the medium. It’s not about tearing things down, it’s about holding creators accountable, raising standards, and pushing anime forward.

Without honest feedback, the same mistakes keep happening like poor writing, lazy animation, shallow characters, etc.

Ignoring or suppressing criticism doesn’t protect the anime industry, it weakens it.

Finally, a bad anime isn’t a blessing, it’s a curse that prevents a good story from ever being properly adapted, stripping it of the hype and recognition it could have had.
@k4zeman

— Hold on, am I getting this right, you actually think studios care about the comments written in these forums?

I honestly don't think any studio actually looks at these comments.

I genuinely think they mostly care about the people of Japan's comments.

I'd be surprised if a studio saw any of my comments, or cared what I had to say, or actually listened to any of my own criticism or praise.

— There is a difference between constructive criticism / praise and overly attacking an anime because it is not up to your personal standard.

Anime is not always going to look as we want it to.

Before anything gets drawn, there are TV stations / media distributors, businesses, contracts, studios, executives, producers, directors, animators, voice actors, sound engineers, musicians, etc etc etc, and all of this takes time and money, so unless there is money to hire the best people for the kind of animation that they want for their anime, they will have less than perfect animation.

If they knew that they were going to get bad animation from the start, then they should have not hired them, but if they knew and still hired them, then that means that they were fine with the product.

I never tried to stop or hinder people from presenting constructive criticism.

I have said in multiple forums like this, to be fair and realistic, don't just attack an anime, provide valid reasons and evidence.

Only a couple people could explain to me with valid arguments and evidence, as to why a portion of the anime is animated badly, but calling this anime a "bad anime" is way over the top and unfair.

The anime's story is still very enjoyable, even without having the best action animation, the rest of the anime is not animated awfully.

— Lastly, I don't read the written material, so all the anime that I like, made from written material, is actually a blessing in my opinion, I would not have known about these stories otherwise.
ejleonMay 3, 7:24 PM
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

May 2, 4:40 PM

Offline
Mar 2012
78
XArceusX said:
@ssjjfar I'm sure it wasn’t like that—after all, Tessia was going on about how Arthur was a good human, unlike others, with the guards, the maids, and even her family, not to mention the times she boldly stood up and made her father bend to her demands.

I wasn't saying that she wanted it to go that way, just that she hesitated because of her position, as opposed to the narrative that the look she gave meant something troubling.
May 2, 6:31 PM

Offline
Apr 2021
3361
ssjjfar said:
XArceusX said:
@ejleon I'm not sure why Tessia didn't come earlier to help Arthur. It’s unlikely she knew he had defeated the bandits, since Arthur had kept that fact from her. They also didn’t encounter any beasts on their way to her kingdom, so Arthur didn’t get a chance to show what he's capable of. There will probably be an explanation later, as Arthur himself questioned her behavior.


Then they could’ve just imprisoned him—even the guard mentioned Arthur brainwashing her, as if he’s just a kid himself and even younger than Tessia.

I think she hesitated only as not wanting to seem like she was "siding with humans" and all that especially in her position as princess. She might have been fine letting guards take him prisoner until she could explain it to her parents, but when they said kill him she was forced to step in.

I would agree with this as well.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

May 2, 6:58 PM
Offline
Jun 2017
4
slideshow continues... slideshow continues... slideshow continues... slideshow continues... slideshow continues...
May 3, 1:47 AM
Offline
Mar 2022
119
This episode was a good one imo. Overall I let this pass because the beginning of the story does not need legendary tier animation. In the future, arcs need to be bangers.
May 3, 1:58 AM

Offline
Jul 2008
11400
So Slyphia gave him a death sentence?
May 3, 7:29 AM
Offline
Oct 2018
7
XArceusX said:
@ejleon I'm not sure why Tessia didn't come earlier to help Arthur. It’s unlikely she knew he had defeated the bandits, since Arthur had kept that fact from her. They also didn’t encounter any beasts on their way to her kingdom, so Arthur didn’t get a chance to show what he's capable of. There will probably be an explanation later, as Arthur himself questioned her behavior.

ejleon said:
reporting back to the other humans

Then they could’ve just imprisoned him—even the guard mentioned Arthur brainwashing her, as if he’s just a kid himself and even younger than Tessia.

I think it wasn’t that tessia DIDNT do anything and more like arthurs past clouded how he saw what happened. She hesitated for maybe a second and he saw that as a nefarious thing, but she’s a child who just had her guards bum rash them and apprehend her friend so it would make sense that she was shocked.

It could also be that it is a sort of unreliable narrator situation where Arthur perceived the lack of action as being much longer than it truly was and from his pov it was a potential betrayal to have not immediately acted in his defense. I think later in the episode when they are looking at the lights and arthur has a flashback and after he says “sorry, tessia” that was him sort of acknowledging that the betrayal in his last life had him questioning her integrity more than was appropriate for the situation. At any rate i suspect the show will further explore what happened there.


This might be a little out there but the look she gave might also have been resentment directed towards her own people for their blind hatred of humans, regardless of the situation at hand. If ever there was a time to give a human the benefit of hearing them out before executing them it would be when they show up with the missing princess claiming he saved her.
May 3, 4:12 PM

Offline
Nov 2024
1135
@NinjaZix I do agree with your third point, as it's a real possibility.

If it was just used as a scene to show that Arthur is starting to grow out of his old shell and transforming into someone new, with the ability to trust strangers and express many emotions unlike his past self, and what happened with Tessia was just a misunderstanding on his part, then there wouldn’t be any further explanation or events connecting the two. However, if it’s true that Tessia didn’t come to help Arthur, then we’ll learn why she did that.
May 6, 4:08 AM
Lilium Gardener

Offline
Jul 2011
4056
One of the ugliest modern anime I have watched in a while. The colour palette is super bland, the backgrounds are generic as hell, when there actually is animation it is bottom-tier, and the faux motion effects are atrocious. Some of these characters should be interesting, but the flaws in the show are so distracting that it overshadows the good qualities.

What should be a cool ass setting with housing built into trees, connected by rope bridges turns out to be one of the saddest looking versions of this kind of village/city I have ever saw. I had to check out the source chapter and can confirm it looks infinitely better in the source. Such a shame.

I have to just stop commenting on this show. It is bringing out too much negativity. I'm going to stick with it and hope it improves for all of the TBATE faithful out there. If not, at least it will be a good score balancer to offset some of the gems airing this season. :P

I am starting to really like the OP, at least. The more I hear it, the better it gets.
May 6, 4:53 AM
Offline
Jan 2023
3
I don’t know how people still watching this slideshow garbage.
May 6, 1:19 PM
Offline
Mar 2025
2
I've been trying to give this one a chance and i feel like this episode has given me a little more hope for the story.
May 6, 7:45 PM

Offline
Dec 2021
3368
It's like they didn't even try here... both story and animation wise. Just copy pasted generic elf PNGs of their CDs along with just the SAME house for every one of them as well...

Oh and again, THIS IS LEGIT JUST THE BEAST PLACE FROM MUSHOKU TENSEI... Except 10x less interesting.
May 7, 3:25 AM
Offline
Apr 2025
2
they didn't even try
May 11, 12:32 AM

Offline
Jul 2017
16188
Arthur being saved by Tessia, and being proven as the princess as per former King Virilon Eralith of the Elenoir Kingdom, he almost risked his life unscathed.

Still, for a place that is filled with elves having grudges against humans, Arthur is the first human in a while to accept Tessia's parents of Alduin and Merial's good graces, though they remain wary of his presence and what he will do to ally or betray against them. Still, at least being given the chance to return home, though not being able to return for 5 years being far too long without seeing her again, Arthur is being put on the spot and contemplating on whether to leave or stay. A momentary friendly clash with Virion proves more than just the power Arthur had to deal with the bandits, and being called to be his apprentice...is quite the tall order.

At least up till this point, the story is holding everything together. Arthur's exploits with the elves is just beginning...
May 11, 12:37 PM
Anime Archivist

Offline
Aug 2019
1144
When Art starts doubting her because of past life hardwiring ๐Ÿ˜” it's still there huh

Enough still frames in this show that I feel the need to dock a point. There's the basic movement frames, and then there's the still frame of Tessia running to her parents ๐Ÿ’€

They could have asked for a demonstration of his power if they were that sus of it. The way that the princess commands authority in her place XD parents can't lift a finger.

Woo elf training time. And plopping the princess off to the side XD at least this old guy knows what's up with Art's heart attack situation
May 12, 1:53 PM

Offline
Dec 2018
4122
I know this show's ratings aren't great but I actually like it despite it being ridiculously formulaic.
so far it's been quite endearing, although the Isekai tropes have clearly been cookie cutter from the beginning.
May 12, 9:56 PM

Offline
Feb 2019
1907
i guess the grandfather was the one watching them & following them. but the king is a pushover when it comes to his daughter.
May 12, 11:52 PM
Offline
Nov 2020
50
The anime was decent tbh the rating is criminal, another one who got FMA treatment from haters.
May 17, 2:57 AM
Offline
Oct 2024
563
Great episode especially Tessia's speech on family to Arthur.
May 17, 6:41 PM
Offline
May 2010
3
like always, bad animation
May 18, 8:34 PM
Offline
Sep 2020
4
nice project power point
May 21, 10:12 PM
Offline
Apr 2016
8
bury it down please this is embarrassing
Jun 7, 12:02 PM
Offline
May 2025
65
We definitely see and feel the past animosity of the elves and humans and Arthur is subject to that discrimination and bias. Excited to see how he grows and matures here as long as grow closer to Tess
Jun 8, 11:01 AM
Offline
May 2020
1
The premise of the plot could be worse, with an excellent manhwa template. We certainly wouldn't have gotten a second Solo Leveling here, but we also shouldn't have gotten such substandard content.

They cut corners left, right and centre here. Instead of showing us the plot, they rely on character exposition while we're really just watching a PowerPoint presentation with moving mouths.

The graphic style isn't bad, but the animation is even worse. It looks like they released the raw version of the anime that still needs to be animated.

In addition, the story seems to have suffered from the budget.
Things are changed and told differently, in my opinion with the sole aim of not having to animate the whole thing.

Whoever did the ‘quality control’ here at the publisher should perhaps try their hand at another job. What a shame.
Jun 8, 7:11 PM
Offline
Aug 2024
1
Power point animation
Jun 10, 11:22 PM

Offline
Jun 2022
6253
well , mc rejected his offer and died


works for me , adios tbate
Pages (2) « 1 [2]

More topics from this board

Poll: » Are you still going to watch the second season?

ReMightyRon - Jun 11

34 by Atomsk17 »»
56 minutes ago

Poll: » Saikyou no Ousama, Nidome no Jinsei wa Nani wo Suru? Episode 10 Discussion ( 1 2 )

Stark700 - Jun 4

82 by Kappachinoo »»
10 hours ago

Poll: » Saikyou no Ousama, Nidome no Jinsei wa Nani wo Suru? Episode 11 Discussion

Stark700 - Jun 11

41 by ineser »»
Today, 6:35 AM

» What up with the producer crew

2mkpyro - Jun 12

15 by Ryun91 »»
Today, 3:00 AM

Poll: » Saikyou no Ousama, Nidome no Jinsei wa Nani wo Suru? Episode 8 Discussion ( 1 2 )

Stark700 - May 21

65 by akiraly »»
Yesterday, 4:37 PM
Itโ€™s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
Sign Up Login