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Apr 29, 2:03 AM
#101
| The reason i am watching anime is not to study female anatomy. I am not served with skin or bunching physics. About other media : Vietnamese massage videos - there are tens of thousands of them with dorillions of views. In most of those videos the girls who give the massages are in some very tight or revealing dresses ! yet the 2 most watched videos are dudes on dudes street massages and the rest of the popular ones are trying to avoid showing female anatomy as much as possible. In case you didn't get it : those are asmr videos where cute Asian girls in tight dresses give massages to (mostly) men who lie down and the most popular videos are the least fanservicy ones. Why can't anime take a hint ? |
Apr 29, 2:12 AM
#102
Reply to WaterMage
@BilboBaggins365 true that religious people hate porn more. But be real in western society the number of religious society is decreasing at very fast rate. Maybe it's changing slowly but they aren't on internet or not vocal enough. And the only way I can see what western people think is through internet. Where all I see people mainly woke moralist go mad schizo everytime some women skins are shown.
Also I don't really care what those two clown political institution does with their laws. They try to show how different they are but when comes to discriminating against people's individual right to consume they are same.
Also I don't really care what those two clown political institution does with their laws. They try to show how different they are but when comes to discriminating against people's individual right to consume they are same.
| @WaterMage That's lack of research and information. There's a difference between a feminist woman with blue hair ranting about how sexist GTA is. At best, it'll annoy people. Though as we see, she's not stopping GTA VI from being made. Right wing politicians are drafting bills to ban problematic content. It's Republicans in Texas that are drafting up the loli ban, for example. Republicans in Texas are trying to ban certain manga. 🌽hub ban is in mostly right-wing states. |
Apr 29, 2:21 AM
#103
Reply to giantpudding
People don't like forced sexualization and anime has a habit of shoving it down your throat constantly.
Mod Edit: Removed baiting.
Mod Edit: Removed baiting.
| @giantpudding Oooh that's why they keep the lolicon posts up lol |
Apr 29, 2:21 AM
#104
Reply to zoomerReviewer
@WaterMage don't fall for the grifter rhetoric. simply see what feminists have tried to do to anime in the UN. anti anime bills are alsp bipartisan. the "satanic panic" had a large component of "we need to protect women" lol.
kvetching about fanservice in anime is worse than people who cried about gta or mk. nonetheless "sex positive feminism" has never applied to male hobbies or tastes.
sex negative feminism is no different than evangengelical puritanism when it comes to fanservice.
and no "just watch porn" isn't a good talking point because these sex positive fags don't think porn addiction is real.
fanservice men like = literally rape o algo
just see how much female goonerbait goes under the radar because no one gives a shit about female media the way women have male orientated shit rent free in their head.
a good example is how nobara took a break from the story and no one cared because the female fanbase for jjk were simply gooners for gojo or shipping underage boys with older men.
kvetching about fanservice in anime is worse than people who cried about gta or mk. nonetheless "sex positive feminism" has never applied to male hobbies or tastes.
sex negative feminism is no different than evangengelical puritanism when it comes to fanservice.
and no "just watch porn" isn't a good talking point because these sex positive fags don't think porn addiction is real.
fanservice men like = literally rape o algo
just see how much female goonerbait goes under the radar because no one gives a shit about female media the way women have male orientated shit rent free in their head.
a good example is how nobara took a break from the story and no one cared because the female fanbase for jjk were simply gooners for gojo or shipping underage boys with older men.
| @zoomerReviewer Except, feminists aren't banning anime. Yet right wing politicians are drafting bills to ban certain things. Funny how y'all ignore that. GTA and other western raunchy comedies were being protested by right wingers. Funny how y'all ignore this. People constantly trash Fujoshi. BKDK fans are the most hated in the MHA fandom. 💀 There's just a large number of them and they have their own community, but female gooners aren't usually liked. |
Apr 29, 2:23 AM
#105
LuxuriousHeart said: @WaterMage That's lack of research and information. There's a difference between a feminist woman with blue hair ranting about how sexist GTA is. At best, it'll annoy people. Though as we see, she's not stopping GTA VI from being made. Right wing politicians are drafting bills to ban problematic content. It's Republicans in Texas that are drafting up the loli ban, for example. Republicans in Texas are trying to ban certain manga. 🌽hub ban is in mostly right-wing states. I was about to say I never seen or heard of any feminist policies ever being put into any type of actual practice completely criminalizing something like gaming. lol The Porn banning and criminalization across almost every right-wing state is laughable because it didn't do anything but generally restrict only selective porn sites that operate in the USA. Where just the other day my neighbor caught her 15 year old kid masturbating to online porn. lol If the true goal was to restrict porn from children, that should be the responsibility of the parents and not have the government criminalize it. lol |
ColourWheelApr 29, 2:30 AM
Apr 29, 2:34 AM
#106
Deathko said: City Hunter is, in fact, 100% tits/pantyshot free Did you watch a censored version or something? From the first episode: The protagonist of City Hunter is a panty thief for crying out loud: |
Apr 29, 2:46 AM
#107
Reply to WaterMage
@zoomerReviewer that's why I am taking about. The hypocrisy with them is unreal. Shipping underage boy and adult girl fine but not the opposite. Literally worst kind of people out there. Anything controversial "muh pEdOphiLiA" "muh women rights".
| @WaterMage I'd argue that most people don't care. They just say that they do to appear morally superior. If they truly hated adult x minor, then why is a popular plot point: high schooler x person in their 20s? Or student x teacher? And it's a thing globally: - Blood and Water is a South African show where a girl sleeps with her swim coach - Glee was made by liberals, and it shows Puck sleeping with Rachel's mom, among other women. A part of Puck's character is him sleeping with older women - The Inkwell is a movie my dad loved. A classic movie, and the protagonist is a weird and awkward teenager who ends up sleeping with a married woman, and the movie celebrated that and portrayed it as a tragic romance. An "if only you were older... you would've loved me and treated me better than my cheating husband!" type thing - Queen Charlotte likely has Charlotte at 17 and George at 22. These are very popular shows... And there's even more examples. And ironically... Adult woman x teen boy is morely to be aimed at guys, and adult male x teen girl is more likely to be aimed at girls. |
Apr 29, 3:02 AM
#108
Reply to ColourWheel
LuxuriousHeart said:
@WaterMage That's lack of research and information. There's a difference between a feminist woman with blue hair ranting about how sexist GTA is. At best, it'll annoy people. Though as we see, she's not stopping GTA VI from being made.
Right wing politicians are drafting bills to ban problematic content. It's Republicans in Texas that are drafting up the loli ban, for example. Republicans in Texas are trying to ban certain manga. 🌽hub ban is in mostly right-wing states.
@WaterMage That's lack of research and information. There's a difference between a feminist woman with blue hair ranting about how sexist GTA is. At best, it'll annoy people. Though as we see, she's not stopping GTA VI from being made.
Right wing politicians are drafting bills to ban problematic content. It's Republicans in Texas that are drafting up the loli ban, for example. Republicans in Texas are trying to ban certain manga. 🌽hub ban is in mostly right-wing states.
I was about to say I never seen or heard of any feminist policies ever being put into any type of actual practice completely criminalizing something like gaming. lol
The Porn banning and criminalization across almost every right-wing state is laughable because it didn't do anything but generally restrict only selective porn sites that operate in the USA. Where just the other day my neighbor caught her 15 year old kid masturbating to online porn. lol
If the true goal was to restrict porn from children, that should be the responsibility of the parents and not have the government criminalize it. lol
| @ColourWheel Yeah. I think what they're talking about is hypocrisy, which is a thing. But that exists on both sides or even the "mix". - For as much as guys hate when feminists trash the fanservice they watch, those same guys shame and trash Fujoshi. - On that note, the same women who hate fanservice in Shounen series get their life to smut series - my family are what I call "economically liberal and socially conservative (except with race, since they're black)". It's astounding their hypocrisy and pearl clutching... They liked The Inkwell and even justified a married adult woman sleeping with a teenage boy because "well her husband treats her wrong", "he's not able to pull girls his age because they don't appreciate how romantic he is", etc. Yet they clutched their pearls when How to Get Away with Murder showed a scene with two men. My great aunt said, "now they really shouldn't show stuff like this on TV". Even down to their hypocrisy in how they treat me. I'm an acceptable queer woman (bi) because I "keep it in the home" (basically, I'm not making out with other women in public or in front of them). |
Apr 29, 3:08 AM
#109
Reply to LuxuriousHeart
@WaterMage That's lack of research and information. There's a difference between a feminist woman with blue hair ranting about how sexist GTA is. At best, it'll annoy people. Though as we see, she's not stopping GTA VI from being made.
Right wing politicians are drafting bills to ban problematic content. It's Republicans in Texas that are drafting up the loli ban, for example. Republicans in Texas are trying to ban certain manga. 🌽hub ban is in mostly right-wing states.
Right wing politicians are drafting bills to ban problematic content. It's Republicans in Texas that are drafting up the loli ban, for example. Republicans in Texas are trying to ban certain manga. 🌽hub ban is in mostly right-wing states.
| @LuxuriousHeart what made you think I support those clown politicians. I am not American. And my perception is both parties are shit. All I see those Emily from homeless centre in LA complaining why in Mushoku Tensie a 15 year old 13 year old are having seegs with concetion go brgh on twitter. And I may be wrong but that bill was also proposed by Dems aswell. Anyway I am glad I don't live here. |
Apr 29, 3:10 AM
#110
Reply to LuxuriousHeart
@WaterMage I'd argue that most people don't care. They just say that they do to appear morally superior. If they truly hated adult x minor, then why is a popular plot point: high schooler x person in their 20s? Or student x teacher? And it's a thing globally:
- Blood and Water is a South African show where a girl sleeps with her swim coach
- Glee was made by liberals, and it shows Puck sleeping with Rachel's mom, among other women. A part of Puck's character is him sleeping with older women
- The Inkwell is a movie my dad loved. A classic movie, and the protagonist is a weird and awkward teenager who ends up sleeping with a married woman, and the movie celebrated that and portrayed it as a tragic romance. An "if only you were older... you would've loved me and treated me better than my cheating husband!" type thing
- Queen Charlotte likely has Charlotte at 17 and George at 22.
These are very popular shows... And there's even more examples.
And ironically... Adult woman x teen boy is morely to be aimed at guys, and adult male x teen girl is more likely to be aimed at girls.
- Blood and Water is a South African show where a girl sleeps with her swim coach
- Glee was made by liberals, and it shows Puck sleeping with Rachel's mom, among other women. A part of Puck's character is him sleeping with older women
- The Inkwell is a movie my dad loved. A classic movie, and the protagonist is a weird and awkward teenager who ends up sleeping with a married woman, and the movie celebrated that and portrayed it as a tragic romance. An "if only you were older... you would've loved me and treated me better than my cheating husband!" type thing
- Queen Charlotte likely has Charlotte at 17 and George at 22.
These are very popular shows... And there's even more examples.
And ironically... Adult woman x teen boy is morely to be aimed at guys, and adult male x teen girl is more likely to be aimed at girls.
| @LuxuriousHeart I mean that's what I am against and they are certainly vocal majority. |
Apr 29, 3:12 AM
#111
Reply to WaterMage
@LuxuriousHeart what made you think I support those clown politicians. I am not American. And my perception is both parties are shit. All I see those Emily from homeless centre in LA complaining why in Mushoku Tensie a 15 year old 13 year old are having seegs with concetion go brgh on twitter.
And I may be wrong but that bill was also proposed by Dems aswell. Anyway I am glad I don't live here.
And I may be wrong but that bill was also proposed by Dems aswell. Anyway I am glad I don't live here.
| @WaterMage No, it was drafted by a Republican. I'd respect that "both parties are bad" thing, if y'all actually criticized both. I only see people trash liberals. Even left leaning moderates are too much... |
Apr 29, 3:14 AM
#112
Reply to WaterMage
@LuxuriousHeart I mean that's what I am against and they are certainly vocal majority.
| @WaterMage If the majority of people hated those stories, they wouldn't be in prevalent in many forms of entertainment. At the very least, most people aren't bothered by it enough to stop supporting the shows. |
Apr 29, 3:52 AM
#113
Reply to LuxuriousHeart
@WaterMage No, it was drafted by a Republican.
I'd respect that "both parties are bad" thing, if y'all actually criticized both. I only see people trash liberals. Even left leaning moderates are too much...
I'd respect that "both parties are bad" thing, if y'all actually criticized both. I only see people trash liberals. Even left leaning moderates are too much...
| @LuxuriousHeart from outside Dems are better actually they aren't trying to crash world economy in the name of protectionism ffs also not abandoning the world. But the extreme left of Dems have completely ruined them. Woke politics have became their priority if they shift to centre I hope they come back soon. |
Apr 29, 4:16 AM
#114
Reply to ColourWheel
Gnza said:
@ColourWheel The example is terrible. It's from a hentai, and if they're making fun of their own clichés and stereotypes, exaggeration is obviously part of it.
@ColourWheel The example is terrible. It's from a hentai, and if they're making fun of their own clichés and stereotypes, exaggeration is obviously part of it.
Though this kind of stuff doesn't just happen in Hentai. I found the image you are criticizing when doing a random image search not even knowing it was even from some "Hentai" title. lol
The fact that the original image I posted is making fun of a pretty common cliché dealing with camera angles in Japanese Anime only proves it happens enough in this medium to even poke fun of it. lol
So even if you are criticizing the use of my original example, claiming it's because it's from some "Hentai" so you likely think it doesn't count, it still serves as an exemplary example in my opinion. lol
I was simply using a tame example to post previously where I could have literally posted any number of random images more graphic and explicit that I found doing a quick image search. Where it would seem like there are almost countless examples in Japanese Anime where the camera is practically shoved directly straight up against an animated fictional girls perineum. lol
| @ColourWheel What I meant is that the example you gave was intentionally exaggerated. It's not like there are tons of casual shots from a camera that, for no reason, tries to do an upskirt of the heroines, unless it's an obscene comedy and that's exactly the point. The genuine examples tend to be more like quick glimpses in scenes where something like that could reasonably happen (girls flying through the air, skirts lifted by the wind, jumping while wearing a skirt) not because there's some shameless formal habit of showing it. |
Apr 29, 4:27 AM
#115
Reply to WaterMage
@LuxuriousHeart from outside Dems are better actually they aren't trying to crash world economy in the name of protectionism ffs also not abandoning the world. But the extreme left of Dems have completely ruined them. Woke politics have became their priority if they shift to centre I hope they come back soon.
| @WaterMage Establishment Dems are some of the least "woke" people on the planet where do people even get this nonsense narrative that the party is woke. I hate censorship as much as anyone else on MAL, but the only people trying to censor everything right now are literally conservatives as they try to ban porn, arrest people for criticizing Israel, kick people out of town halls for disagreeing etc etc... Like I wouldn't even disagree with you on the substance of free expression here, but nearly every argument I see from anti woke mfers comes down to shit like "people said something I didn't like online" "trolls on twitter called me misogynist" "woke people want to take tits and ass out of media" like these aren't things you should be using to establish your views of society and culture, it is meme tier garbage on the internet |
| getting jummed |
Apr 29, 4:44 AM
#116
| Fanservice this, fanservice that... But when it's about Chainsaw Man, Tengoku Daimakyou or Dandadan or some another modern edgy crap then everybody get absolutely blind instantly and the anime goes viral and popular not in spite of, but because of fanservice and tasteless vulgarity. |
Apr 29, 4:54 AM
#117
Reply to Sports_Friday
@WaterMage Establishment Dems are some of the least "woke" people on the planet where do people even get this nonsense narrative that the party is woke. I hate censorship as much as anyone else on MAL, but the only people trying to censor everything right now are literally conservatives as they try to ban porn, arrest people for criticizing Israel, kick people out of town halls for disagreeing etc etc...
Like I wouldn't even disagree with you on the substance of free expression here, but nearly every argument I see from anti woke mfers comes down to shit like "people said something I didn't like online" "trolls on twitter called me misogynist" "woke people want to take tits and ass out of media" like these aren't things you should be using to establish your views of society and culture, it is meme tier garbage on the internet
Like I wouldn't even disagree with you on the substance of free expression here, but nearly every argument I see from anti woke mfers comes down to shit like "people said something I didn't like online" "trolls on twitter called me misogynist" "woke people want to take tits and ass out of media" like these aren't things you should be using to establish your views of society and culture, it is meme tier garbage on the internet
| @Sports_Friday establishment Dems are not the problem same with Republicans too at an lesser extent. The extremism on the both side have ruined everything in between. But this thread was about people not political establishment. I completely agree with everyone said about conservative law makers being more pro censorship. Sure people from right also specially deluded ones will do whatever their politicians support. But it's an undeniable fact on internet and social media the majority of them preaching moral are having woke mindset. Trolls and idiots exist in both side. But I see genuinely horrible opinions ideas are being revered. Every slight controversy is lached on mainly by them. Yes it matters far less than anti loli garbage laws but meaningless hate on bs things ruins the perception of a animes/other mediums. |
Apr 29, 5:45 AM
#118
Reply to WaterMage
@Sports_Friday establishment Dems are not the problem same with Republicans too at an lesser extent. The extremism on the both side have ruined everything in between.
But this thread was about people not political establishment. I completely agree with everyone said about conservative law makers being more pro censorship. Sure people from right also specially deluded ones will do whatever their politicians support. But it's an undeniable fact on internet and social media the majority of them preaching moral are having woke mindset. Trolls and idiots exist in both side. But I see genuinely horrible opinions ideas are being revered. Every slight controversy is lached on mainly by them. Yes it matters far less than anti loli garbage laws but meaningless hate on bs things ruins the perception of a animes/other mediums.
But this thread was about people not political establishment. I completely agree with everyone said about conservative law makers being more pro censorship. Sure people from right also specially deluded ones will do whatever their politicians support. But it's an undeniable fact on internet and social media the majority of them preaching moral are having woke mindset. Trolls and idiots exist in both side. But I see genuinely horrible opinions ideas are being revered. Every slight controversy is lached on mainly by them. Yes it matters far less than anti loli garbage laws but meaningless hate on bs things ruins the perception of a animes/other mediums.
WaterMage said: But I see genuinely horrible opinions ideas are being revered. Every slight controversy is lached on mainly by them. Yes it matters far less than anti loli garbage laws but meaningless hate on bs things ruins the perception of a animes/other mediums. I think this is the part I just don't find that convincing, like yes people revere bad takes on the internet and it can affect perception of certain anime but this just feels so marginal, isn't this what kids call being "terminally online" now? Like for all the talk about this kind of things I barely ever see it affect perception negatively irl as much, in fact anime is more popular and beloved than ever, it is so normalized in mainstream culture at this point. Maybe I am also just misunderstanding but what is even wrong about preaching "moral" things or having a "woke" mindset? as long as your criticisms are rooted in fact and are legitimate, if you like a piece of media you should be able to defend it on the merits. Establishment dems also totally are the problem I'm not sure I understand you on that one either at all |
| getting jummed |
Apr 29, 5:52 AM
#119
| Imagine grown adults biggest fear being seeing animated titties and ass while ironically living in a hypersexualized society surrounded by sex. This is the reason of your hyper fixation on sex when consuming fiction btw, you are consumed by the internet and culture blasting it from all sides while at the same time not having any yourself so it becomes a big deal in your mind. |
Apr 29, 6:17 AM
#120
Reply to Gnza
@ColourWheel What I meant is that the example you gave was intentionally exaggerated. It's not like there are tons of casual shots from a camera that, for no reason, tries to do an upskirt of the heroines, unless it's an obscene comedy and that's exactly the point. The genuine examples tend to be more like quick glimpses in scenes where something like that could reasonably happen (girls flying through the air, skirts lifted by the wind, jumping while wearing a skirt) not because there's some shameless formal habit of showing it.
Gnza said: @ColourWheel What I meant is that the example you gave was intentionally exaggerated. It's not like there are tons of casual shots from a camera that, for no reason, tries to do an upskirt of the heroines, unless it's an obscene comedy and that's exactly the point. The genuine examples tend to be more like quick glimpses in scenes where something like that could reasonably happen (girls flying through the air, skirts lifted by the wind, jumping while wearing a skirt) not because there's some shameless formal habit of showing it. It's not like all that Japanese Anime is, is just flooded with fanservice either. And not like any fanservice in any general Japanese Anime last very long to begin with. Which is why any fanservice in Japanese Anime is a pretty petty complaint most of the time for those who bitch and whine about it. Either way I could continue to just shitpost dozens and dozens of more examples for you just as exaggerated from not either some "Hentai" or "Ecchi" but not going to waste any more of my time on this. lol |
ColourWheelApr 29, 6:47 AM
Apr 29, 6:42 AM
#121
| I don't like Western fanservices either, not in movies, not in music videos, I think it's trash. |
| Honobono Log - best slice of life short -------------------------------------------- most kawaii loli overlord ---------------------------- Donquixote Doflamingo AMV - Control |
Apr 29, 7:36 AM
#122
Reply to ColourWheel
thewiru said:
I mean, the other image you posted was from Mouse, an ecchi series.
Like, of course an ecchi series would have scenes like that, it's an ecchi series.
I mean, the other image you posted was from Mouse, an ecchi series.
Like, of course an ecchi series would have scenes like that, it's an ecchi series.
That should be irrelevant since "Ecchi" is not genre label or theme even used in Japan. It's almost completely made up by western fandom. But I edited my post anyways and posted a few more examples from titles that are obviously not "Ecchi" or "Hentai". lol
1st it doesn't count because it's "hentai" then it doesn't count because it's "Ecchi"? Hope this gives you people more perspective...
All above images, NOT "Hentai", NOT "Ecchi". lol
There was also that boob job controversy |
Apr 29, 7:57 AM
#123
Reply to Gnza
@Wisecatmax07 ‘Involves minors’, such heavy words for what are just drawings lol.
| @Gnza That doesn’t magically erase the issue. Those drawings represent minors—they’re written, voiced, and portrayed as underage characters. The problem isn’t whether they’re ‘real’ or not—it’s about the intent and the normalization of sexualizing children, even in fictional form. |
Apr 29, 8:02 AM
#124
| Depends what you mean by "fanservice". You see, this term an as much encompass sexual gratification as other aspects like detailed mechanical-design or a key scene animated in impeccable sakuga-style... But for the sake of the whole argument, let's surmise you imply "sexual gratification" and for anime that are not dominantly Ecchi themed couple relationship. Let me explain you why I am anti ecchi relief it in several clear points: 1) It's screenplay time wasted that could be used to further define a character by action or foreshadow something, for example. 2) It creates tonal whiplash. If you make a raunchy joke out of a female character, I won't be able to take her seriously. Besides, it kills any dramatic tension that was built previously. 3) It contributes to perpetuate the notion that anime spectators have low attention span as long as you don't take time to rub their nuts the right way. This is the reason why I never openly tell outsiders that I am into this medium as a hobby. 4) If I want titillation, full blown adult content already exists. Anything: JAV, magazines... Ecchi relief isn't even good because it blueballs you without even giving you an actual sex scene. 5) I think mainstream entertainment must be an entirely separate league, without hentai minded stuff spilling over it. 6) It's just vulgar when it's gratuitous, overall. |
sorceryApr 29, 8:06 AM
Apr 29, 8:08 AM
#125
Reply to ToumaTachibana
-Moral panic: they think showing an unrealistic "underage" character in NSFW situations can made people to sexually assault minors in real life or some shit about "objectifying" women.
-Anti-sex: anything sexual or perceived as sexual is seen as something bad.
-Anti-Japanese sentiment/Xenophobia: somehow it's always Anime's fault but like you said plenty of live action movies involving college or high school girls has very similar scenes but which it makes even less sense no one complains considering they are adult actors representing a minor (hs girls) in NSFW situations in the most realistic way possible but somehow its only bad with the unrealistic Anime girl in a NSFW situation. Also, this is also not limited to live action-Anime, plenty of Western animation has similar scenes which its innapropiate, its worse since several are aimed at children, like for example Turning Red has obvious NSFW implied scenes.
-Tourists aka fake Anime fans: plenty of such people have several series who have similar themes yet its only an issue with some. For example, this TV tropes mod falsely accused KissxSis of being of "pedopandering" when he has as favourite show Mob Psycho 100 (several episodes implies something more than just a just a mentor-student relationship between Reigen and Mob), Code Geass (ignores the obvious incest among the Britannian Family, Lelouch being siscon and obvious fanservice of hs characters), Death Note (all female characters fanservice scenes with Misa looking like a high school girl rather than an adult women), One Punch Man (lolicon character: Tatsumaki), Jujutsu Kaisen (sexualization of high school boys), Eminence in Shadow (main character is sexualized despite he's a high school boy, the sauna scene is the most obvious), Demon Slayer (Nezuko demon transformation and the obvious incest implication between her and Tanjiro), Chainsaw Man (several female characters grooming Denji, a minor), Tokyo Ghoul (Eto being sexualized despite she looks much younger than her age), High School of the Dead (no need to explain), 86 (child soldiers, the novel has a scene of Shin being naked). Also the fact TV tropes allows Cuties but not kissxsis, it says everything about them.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/Kory
If you have favourite shows with "problematic" content, why you complain about other shows with "problematic" content?
-Anti-sex: anything sexual or perceived as sexual is seen as something bad.
-Anti-Japanese sentiment/Xenophobia: somehow it's always Anime's fault but like you said plenty of live action movies involving college or high school girls has very similar scenes but which it makes even less sense no one complains considering they are adult actors representing a minor (hs girls) in NSFW situations in the most realistic way possible but somehow its only bad with the unrealistic Anime girl in a NSFW situation. Also, this is also not limited to live action-Anime, plenty of Western animation has similar scenes which its innapropiate, its worse since several are aimed at children, like for example Turning Red has obvious NSFW implied scenes.
-Tourists aka fake Anime fans: plenty of such people have several series who have similar themes yet its only an issue with some. For example, this TV tropes mod falsely accused KissxSis of being of "pedopandering" when he has as favourite show Mob Psycho 100 (several episodes implies something more than just a just a mentor-student relationship between Reigen and Mob), Code Geass (ignores the obvious incest among the Britannian Family, Lelouch being siscon and obvious fanservice of hs characters), Death Note (all female characters fanservice scenes with Misa looking like a high school girl rather than an adult women), One Punch Man (lolicon character: Tatsumaki), Jujutsu Kaisen (sexualization of high school boys), Eminence in Shadow (main character is sexualized despite he's a high school boy, the sauna scene is the most obvious), Demon Slayer (Nezuko demon transformation and the obvious incest implication between her and Tanjiro), Chainsaw Man (several female characters grooming Denji, a minor), Tokyo Ghoul (Eto being sexualized despite she looks much younger than her age), High School of the Dead (no need to explain), 86 (child soldiers, the novel has a scene of Shin being naked). Also the fact TV tropes allows Cuties but not kissxsis, it says everything about them.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/Kory
If you have favourite shows with "problematic" content, why you complain about other shows with "problematic" content?
| @Nurguburu Nurguburu said: what?! Obvious? Where?obvious incest implication between her and Tanjiro This has to be just obvious wishful thinking on your part, sorry |
SaindaMay 1, 8:15 AM
Apr 29, 8:12 AM
#126
Reply to Sports_Friday
WaterMage said:
But I see genuinely horrible opinions ideas are being revered. Every slight controversy is lached on mainly by them. Yes it matters far less than anti loli garbage laws but meaningless hate on bs things ruins the perception of a animes/other mediums.
But I see genuinely horrible opinions ideas are being revered. Every slight controversy is lached on mainly by them. Yes it matters far less than anti loli garbage laws but meaningless hate on bs things ruins the perception of a animes/other mediums.
I think this is the part I just don't find that convincing, like yes people revere bad takes on the internet and it can affect perception of certain anime but this just feels so marginal, isn't this what kids call being "terminally online" now? Like for all the talk about this kind of things I barely ever see it affect perception negatively irl as much, in fact anime is more popular and beloved than ever, it is so normalized in mainstream culture at this point.
Maybe I am also just misunderstanding but what is even wrong about preaching "moral" things or having a "woke" mindset? as long as your criticisms are rooted in fact and are legitimate, if you like a piece of media you should be able to defend it on the merits. Establishment dems also totally are the problem I'm not sure I understand you on that one either at all
| @Sports_Friday well I am not in for political extremism specially on the left. If thats your fair enough but I just don't agree with you and I am not in for moral virtue signalling nor woke policies. Also there's a thing called religionsim and different culture for different lands so same values doesn't hold everywhere. So trying to shame them for liking things is alright. And I don't really care for what people on twitter think it's just that for common people introducing something new with negetive wrong perception is not good nah. Like a random people who have no idea sees Mushoku Tensie is being called Diddy Tensie which is wrong and false makes me uncomfortable as fan. Not like it diminishies my liking anyway. But it's that that. |
Apr 29, 8:23 AM
#127
Reply to Deathko
@Gnza Haven't seen it. But the show is called... Sex Education. That doesn't sound like fanservice, that sounds like the whole premise and subject of the show.
Do people who look down on "fanservice" in anime complain about Highschool DxD's giant tiddies? Or do they complain about Fairy Tail's giant tiddies? I don't think anyone would be so out of touch that they'd complain about an ecchi show's sexual content being pointless and distracting them from an otherwise interesting show.
Do people who look down on "fanservice" in anime complain about Highschool DxD's giant tiddies? Or do they complain about Fairy Tail's giant tiddies? I don't think anyone would be so out of touch that they'd complain about an ecchi show's sexual content being pointless and distracting them from an otherwise interesting show.
| @Deathko "I don't think anyone would be so out of touch that they'd complain about an ecchi show's sexual content being pointless and distracting them from an otherwise interesting show." You'd be surprised. I have irl tourist acquaintances that think DxD sucks precisely because of that. |
Apr 29, 8:28 AM
#128
Moral panic: they think showing an unrealistic "underage" character in NSFW situations can made people to sexually assault minors in real life or some shit about "objectifying" women See, this relativistic argument by excuse is exactly why I am ashamed to openly tell that I am an anime fan. I am at constant risk of being lumped together with self indulgent otageeks who have unhealthy erotic fascination for characters that are designed to look like 8 years old kids. They're the reason why I mostly watch Mina or modern exceptions like "Megumi no Daigo: Rescuer in Orange" which take their subject matter so much at heart they forget about peepee flattering. I don't like so much high school as a setting, but at least most schoolgirls in anime are designed to look like they're adults. I then take time to ask you the question: why do you need that type of creepy fanservice in your life, if you don't indeed have closet pedo tendencies? |
sorceryApr 29, 8:35 AM
Apr 29, 8:30 AM
#129
| Most who are complaining aren't the target audience and as a result are just a very loud vocal minority and people's tendency to want to have some form of media, particularly in entertainment to adjust to their own ideals and morals just because they also indulge in it despite many others enjoying the hobby or entertainment for what it is,is much more prevalent now, normalized even specially online.Last but not least there are always some puritans no matter where you go lol.As for why people don't hate as much for movies and tv shows, it's likely because they are used to it while anime is still in one of it's huge popularity bursts.Also people who are upset(in this case the tourists/untargeted audience)are usually loud while those who are getting what they want generally remain quiet, another reason why so much hate is seen online. Complaining about fanservice in anime has always been a thing but it increased a lot after COVID as people who weren't interested before joined in due to boredom.Now we have a huge number of "tourists" or "casuals" who watch only a few mainstream anime and are not ready to accept anime for what it is so they are in a love-hate relationship where the end up watching anime that has obvious fanservice but can't help but complain about it and want it to change by voicing their complaints and feel better by insulting people who enjoy anime for what it is The word fanservice is a positive word to me so I generally almost always enjoy it since I am the target audience,the fan being serviced.Fanservice itself is never a negative to me and while others may think it's a cheap thing,imo it is one of the main characteristics of anime in general since most anime have at least some of it if not a lot,no other form of entertainment media does sexualization or creates sexy fictional characters the way animanga authors do which is nothing but beautiful art,so the thing that matters is execution.Fanservice can be done well but also bad when it actively hurts the narrative but atp I'm just used to it and don't mind,also most author's generally don't mess up their works with fanservice,they make it obvious how the tone will be from the start.Also sometimes author's are just unapologetically horny for the sake of it not because of engagement bait or anything like that,which is something that's kinda funny but also enjoyable to me.The haters just need to develop the ability to watch what they like and ignore what they dislike, something surprisingly a lot of full grown adults don't have for God knows what reason. Also the argument about the ages of characters and objectification/sexualization which these haters spout is extremely retarded since these are fictional characters who may as well be considered objects created to entertain us.No one gives a shit when literal war crimes or extreme violence are done for fun in video games or shown in anime but when it's something sexual these people act like some religious extremist would.People all over the world have become weirdly desensitized to violence while becoming hypersensitive to anything sexual for some reason.All these accusations of being pedos for liking/creating lolis or 16y old waifus but somehow Japan is still one of safest countries in the world with a very low sexual crime rate. The anime community needs to gatekeep harder(and it seems it has already started to increase recently) because people who genuinely like anime for what it is will become one with the community fairly easily and tourists/haters who aren't the target audience will simply get filtered/gatekept or become quite as they will feel unwelcome,as they should. |
RandomWeeb420Apr 29, 8:55 AM
Apr 29, 8:44 AM
#130
Reply to Piromysl
@Deathko Of course people do not have problem with "raunchy comedies" because those are not Japanese. You may have entire movie series all about teenagers banging eachothers, but anime is too much. Bish, please.
There is absolutely no denying that xenophobia is the factor here. All you need as a proof is to look at random anime announcement and see tourists saying xenophobic shit like "Japan is capitol or pedophilia" and other dumb stuff like this. (No, it is not true.)
It kinda reminds me of how people who defended "Cuties" still had a problem with anime/manga fanservice.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/cuties-netflix-review-controversial-marketing/
https://sybillapatrizia.com/VICE-The-Dark-Side-of-Manga
And why are we supposed to give leniency to South Park and other western shows, which also sexualizes little kids?
I also forgot to mention that cheerypicking one scene from 30 years ago is also disingenuous.
There is absolutely no denying that xenophobia is the factor here. All you need as a proof is to look at random anime announcement and see tourists saying xenophobic shit like "Japan is capitol or pedophilia" and other dumb stuff like this. (No, it is not true.)
It kinda reminds me of how people who defended "Cuties" still had a problem with anime/manga fanservice.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/cuties-netflix-review-controversial-marketing/
https://sybillapatrizia.com/VICE-The-Dark-Side-of-Manga
And why are we supposed to give leniency to South Park and other western shows, which also sexualizes little kids?
Deathko said:
*coughs* It's not like Pokemon has that banned beach episode where James (yes, James) grows giant tits and tries to beat Misty in a bikini competition. Really fun episode, tho.
*coughs* It's not like Pokemon has that banned beach episode where James (yes, James) grows giant tits and tries to beat Misty in a bikini competition. Really fun episode, tho.
I also forgot to mention that cheerypicking one scene from 30 years ago is also disingenuous.
Piromysl said: Of course people do not have problem with "raunchy comedies" because those are not Japanese. This is either pure bad faith, or straight up delusional. Western raunchy comedies are absolutely garbage, japanese 80s/90s raunchy comedies are peak. And it's not like they're niche or obscure either, so you can't even try to deflect by claimikng you didn't know they exist. There's no point discussing this further if your only intent is to "prove your point", even if it's at the cost of truth. |
DeathkoApr 29, 8:47 AM
Prophetess of the Golden Era |
Apr 29, 8:47 AM
#131
Reply to MedK001
@Deathko "I don't think anyone would be so out of touch that they'd complain about an ecchi show's sexual content being pointless and distracting them from an otherwise interesting show."
You'd be surprised. I have irl tourist acquaintances that think DxD sucks precisely because of that.
You'd be surprised. I have irl tourist acquaintances that think DxD sucks precisely because of that.
| @MedK001 Thanks to remind me that I forgot my 7th point as to why I am anti ecchi relief: it derails premises which can potentially have interesting ramifications if more focused in consistency than pandering. That is the reason why I consider this as a perversion of artistic creativity. When mass industrial model becomes the norm of Art, you get things like otaku pandering. I know that Art is a dead horse at this stage, yet is it to much to ask to get more productions going past basic instincts? |
sorceryApr 29, 8:59 AM
Apr 29, 8:55 AM
#132
Reply to TransferUser
Deathko said:
City Hunter is, in fact, 100% tits/pantyshot free
City Hunter is, in fact, 100% tits/pantyshot free
Did you watch a censored version or something?
From the first episode:
The protagonist of City Hunter is a panty thief for crying out loud:
| @TransferUser Duh, I rarely rewatch that first episode. That's like... Probably the closest to naked tits in the whole show lmao (notice the patsies). In 150 episodes, in a raunchy comedy. I suspect you know it, so why are you trying to bend the truth here? There's more naked tits in any random chapter of Ranma 1/2 than in the 30+ vols of City Hunter. The show is obviously not panty free, but it's free of awkward camera angle to focus on those. You could have mentionned (closer to what people have in mind when they think about panty shots) this too: Besides, your screenshot just reinforces my point - that you conveniently omitted to quote - regarding how the show treats that creepy male gaze/panty obsession of the character. And once again, and I kinda I feel like I need to type it multiple times because people are putting some crazy bad faith in this rather than because they're not reading: Almost nobody complains about sexual content in comedies that are sexual by nature, or in ecchi shows. At least I certainly don't, so not sure what you're trying to prove. |
DeathkoApr 29, 9:04 AM
Prophetess of the Golden Era |
Apr 29, 9:03 AM
#133
Reply to sorcery
@MedK001
Thanks to remind me that I forgot my 7th point as to why I am anti ecchi relief: it derails premises which can potentially have interesting ramifications if more focused in consistency than pandering. That is the reason why I consider this as a perversion of artistic creativity. When mass industrial model becomes the norm of Art, you get things like otaku pandering. I know that Art is a dead horse at this stage, yet is it to much to ask to get more productions going past basic instincts?
Thanks to remind me that I forgot my 7th point as to why I am anti ecchi relief: it derails premises which can potentially have interesting ramifications if more focused in consistency than pandering. That is the reason why I consider this as a perversion of artistic creativity. When mass industrial model becomes the norm of Art, you get things like otaku pandering. I know that Art is a dead horse at this stage, yet is it to much to ask to get more productions going past basic instincts?
sorcery said: Thanks to remind me that I forgot my 7th point as to why I am anti ecchi relief: it derails premises which can potentially have interesting ramifications if more focused in consistency than pandering. This is a reason why I consider this as a perversion of artistic creativity. When mass industrial model becomes the norm of Art, this becomes a cheap trade for easy sales rather than Art. lol Japanese Anime is an industry. Not like artist in this industry are trying to create fine art to display in museums to begin with. lol Call it what you will, fanservice in Anime is practically just part of it's rooted culture, likely dating back even before most Users were even alive who even bitch and whine about it to begin with. Where broadly, a very generous estimate would likely be between 50–60%+ of all Anime in general, even completely excluding "Hentai", has always offered sexual fanservice. Where just panty fanservice alone is likely featured broadly in about over 15% of this medium not even including titles labeled as "Hentai" or even "Ecchi". lol If Users are so irked about fanservice in this medium, they likely should have gotten into something else instead because it's just another part of Japanese Anime much like Beach and Hot Spring Episodes, School Settings, Mecha, Nosebleeds, etc... and westerners bitching and whining about fanservice won't change anything anyways. It only shows how self centered westerners are about this medium wanting or expecting another cultures medium to change likely thinking if they bitch and whine about it enough that it might or will just because it's something they don't like. lol |
ColourWheelApr 29, 9:49 AM
Apr 29, 9:10 AM
#134
Reply to MedK001
@Deathko "I don't think anyone would be so out of touch that they'd complain about an ecchi show's sexual content being pointless and distracting them from an otherwise interesting show."
You'd be surprised. I have irl tourist acquaintances that think DxD sucks precisely because of that.
You'd be surprised. I have irl tourist acquaintances that think DxD sucks precisely because of that.
| @MedK001 I feel like Highschool DxD sucks too, but for the opposite reason: it's way too tame and prudish (also author clearly never played chess). You wanna be soft porn? Cool, but don't half-ass it. Valkyrie Drive: Mermaid is where it's at o7 |
Prophetess of the Golden Era |
Apr 29, 9:21 AM
#135
Reply to Deathko
@TransferUser Duh, I rarely rewatch that first episode. That's like... Probably the closest to naked tits in the whole show lmao (notice the patsies). In 150 episodes, in a raunchy comedy. I suspect you know it, so why are you trying to bend the truth here? There's more naked tits in any random chapter of Ranma 1/2 than in the 30+ vols of City Hunter.
The show is obviously not panty free, but it's free of awkward camera angle to focus on those. You could have mentionned (closer to what people have in mind when they think about panty shots) this too:

Besides, your screenshot just reinforces my point - that you conveniently omitted to quote - regarding how the show treats that creepy male gaze/panty obsession of the character. And once again, and I kinda I feel like I need to type it multiple times because people are putting some crazy bad faith in this rather than because they're not reading:
Almost nobody complains about sexual content in comedies that are sexual by nature, or in ecchi shows. At least I certainly don't, so not sure what you're trying to prove.
The show is obviously not panty free, but it's free of awkward camera angle to focus on those. You could have mentionned (closer to what people have in mind when they think about panty shots) this too:
Besides, your screenshot just reinforces my point - that you conveniently omitted to quote - regarding how the show treats that creepy male gaze/panty obsession of the character. And once again, and I kinda I feel like I need to type it multiple times because people are putting some crazy bad faith in this rather than because they're not reading:
Almost nobody complains about sexual content in comedies that are sexual by nature, or in ecchi shows. At least I certainly don't, so not sure what you're trying to prove.
| @Deathko This is my least favorite aspect of the show, along with the slapstick comedy. If City Hunter was more like Cowboy Bebop, it would have been considered a legit classic by its side, rather than an obsolete franchise with mostly juvenile humor. And it's too bad, because the serious scenes in CH hits really hard, when Ryo Saeba gets serious about his clients or his rivalry with Umibozu. Well, at the very least, these fanservices scenes are relevant in the grand scheme of the MC's characterization, as Ryo Saeba takes shelter in his kinks to cope with the harsh reality that his entire life is basically an uninterrupted gun fight against evils of this world. @ColourWheel It was not always true. You seem to forget that studios like Gainax used to work on pure passion projects like Wings of Honneamise, once upon a time. I am willing to compromise that you need alimentary jobs. Yet, what I complain mostly about in this era of anime is the glaring absence of these passion projects. Pure focus on profitability has made the subculture mostly soulless. It's more about what the producers and editors think the public wants than what authors want. broadly, a very generous estimate would likely be between 50–60% of Anime in general, even completely excluding "Hentai", offers fanservice. Where just panty fanservice alone is likely featured broadly in about 15% of this medium not even including titles labeled as "Hentai" or even "Ecchi". lol So, let's just accept this as a fatality and indulge, while never supporting the 40% trying to genuinely move the bar higher than the belt, gotcha. |
sorceryApr 29, 9:27 AM
Apr 29, 10:14 AM
#136
Reply to sorcery
@Deathko
This is my least favorite aspect of the show, along with the slapstick comedy. If City Hunter was more like Cowboy Bebop, it would have been considered a legit classic by its side, rather than an obsolete franchise with mostly juvenile humor. And it's too bad, because the serious scenes in CH hits really hard, when Ryo Saeba gets serious about his clients or his rivalry with Umibozu.
Well, at the very least, these fanservices scenes are relevant in the grand scheme of the MC's characterization, as Ryo Saeba takes shelter in his kinks to cope with the harsh reality that his entire life is basically an uninterrupted gun fight against evils of this world.
@ColourWheel
It was not always true. You seem to forget that studios like Gainax used to work on pure passion projects like Wings of Honneamise, once upon a time. I am willing to compromise that you need alimentary jobs. Yet, what I complain mostly about in this era of anime is the glaring absence of these passion projects. Pure focus on profitability has made the subculture mostly soulless. It's more about what the producers and editors think the public wants than what authors want.
So, let's just accept this as a fatality and indulge, while never supporting the 40% trying to genuinely move the bar higher than the belt, gotcha.
This is my least favorite aspect of the show, along with the slapstick comedy. If City Hunter was more like Cowboy Bebop, it would have been considered a legit classic by its side, rather than an obsolete franchise with mostly juvenile humor. And it's too bad, because the serious scenes in CH hits really hard, when Ryo Saeba gets serious about his clients or his rivalry with Umibozu.
Well, at the very least, these fanservices scenes are relevant in the grand scheme of the MC's characterization, as Ryo Saeba takes shelter in his kinks to cope with the harsh reality that his entire life is basically an uninterrupted gun fight against evils of this world.
@ColourWheel
It was not always true. You seem to forget that studios like Gainax used to work on pure passion projects like Wings of Honneamise, once upon a time. I am willing to compromise that you need alimentary jobs. Yet, what I complain mostly about in this era of anime is the glaring absence of these passion projects. Pure focus on profitability has made the subculture mostly soulless. It's more about what the producers and editors think the public wants than what authors want.
broadly, a very generous estimate would likely be between 50–60% of Anime in general, even completely excluding "Hentai", offers fanservice. Where just panty fanservice alone is likely featured broadly in about 15% of this medium not even including titles labeled as "Hentai" or even "Ecchi". lol
So, let's just accept this as a fatality and indulge, while never supporting the 40% trying to genuinely move the bar higher than the belt, gotcha.
sorcery said: If City Hunter was more like Cowboy Bebop, it would have been considered a legit classic by its side, rather than an obsolete franchise with mostly juvenile humor Except, Cowboy Bebop is not really considered a classic in Japan and actually City Hunter is a much more popular franchise and nowhere an "obsolete franchise" as some edgy western otaku would think. As a further proof of this, the most recent City Hunter anime was released in 2023 whereas Cowboy Bebop franchise is pretty much dead in Japan for a long time now. Some more fun facts about City Hunter's popularity: "By 2016, the City Hunter manga series had sold over 50 million tankōbon volumes worldwide." "In a 2005 poll held by TV Asahi, City Hunter was voted 66th out of the 100 most popular animated TV series, as voted by TV viewers." "A replica of Kaori's "100-ton hammer" raised ¥1.832 million ($17,150) on Yahoo Auctions in 2007. It was the biggest selling charity item of the year for the service" "In 2011, the series was adapted into a Korean television series of the same name by SBS, starring Lee Min-ho and Park Min-young.[71] The series is available to watch with English subtitles on the streaming service Hulu.[" "In 2014, there was a Chinese television series based on City Hunter, with the title Cheng Shi Lie Ren In 2015, the spin-off manga Angel Heart received its own live-action Japanese TV drama adaptation." "In December 2022, Netflix announced a live-action film adaptation in the works with lead actor Ryohei Suzuki as Ryo Saeba and Misato Morita as Kaori Makimura.Directed by Yūichi Satō, the film premiered on the streaming service on April 25, 2024" |
JoeChipApr 29, 10:21 AM
Apr 29, 10:20 AM
#137
Reply to sorcery
Depends what you mean by "fanservice". You see, this term an as much encompass sexual gratification as other aspects like detailed mechanical-design or a key scene animated in impeccable sakuga-style...
But for the sake of the whole argument, let's surmise you imply "sexual gratification" and for anime that are not dominantly Ecchi themed couple relationship. Let me explain you why I am anti ecchi relief it in several clear points:
1) It's screenplay time wasted that could be used to further define a character by action or foreshadow something, for example.
2) It creates tonal whiplash. If you make a raunchy joke out of a female character, I won't be able to take her seriously. Besides, it kills any dramatic tension that was built previously.
3) It contributes to perpetuate the notion that anime spectators have low attention span as long as you don't take time to rub their nuts the right way. This is the reason why I never openly tell outsiders that I am into this medium as a hobby.
4) If I want titillation, full blown adult content already exists. Anything: JAV, magazines... Ecchi relief isn't even good because it blueballs you without even giving you an actual sex scene.
5) I think mainstream entertainment must be an entirely separate league, without hentai minded stuff spilling over it.
6) It's just vulgar when it's gratuitous, overall.
But for the sake of the whole argument, let's surmise you imply "sexual gratification" and for anime that are not dominantly Ecchi themed couple relationship. Let me explain you why I am anti ecchi relief it in several clear points:
1) It's screenplay time wasted that could be used to further define a character by action or foreshadow something, for example.
2) It creates tonal whiplash. If you make a raunchy joke out of a female character, I won't be able to take her seriously. Besides, it kills any dramatic tension that was built previously.
3) It contributes to perpetuate the notion that anime spectators have low attention span as long as you don't take time to rub their nuts the right way. This is the reason why I never openly tell outsiders that I am into this medium as a hobby.
4) If I want titillation, full blown adult content already exists. Anything: JAV, magazines... Ecchi relief isn't even good because it blueballs you without even giving you an actual sex scene.
5) I think mainstream entertainment must be an entirely separate league, without hentai minded stuff spilling over it.
6) It's just vulgar when it's gratuitous, overall.
| @sorcery We get it edgelord, you are so cool and superior to people who enjoy fanservice and for actually thinking erotic content and porn are the same thing and ecchi only exists to sexually arouse people just like porn, in your head that is . Last but not least https://www.grammarly.com/blog/commonly-confused-words/its-vs-its/ |
JoeChipApr 29, 11:25 AM
Apr 29, 10:22 AM
#138
Reply to zoomerReviewer
wow this thread is full of american grifters who think FLCL was good because of it's realism and not because it's animation to the extreme ie absolved of the confines of realism.
Mod Edit: Removed baiting.
Mod Edit: Removed baiting.
| @zoomerReviewer https://www.grammarly.com/blog/commonly-confused-words/its-vs-its/ |
Apr 29, 10:59 AM
#139
Reply to JoeChip
@sorcery
We get it edgelord, you are so cool and superior to people who enjoy fanservice and for actually thinking erotic content and porn are the same thing and ecchi only exists to sexually arouse people just like porn, in your head that is .
Last but not least https://www.grammarly.com/blog/commonly-confused-words/its-vs-its/
We get it edgelord, you are so cool and superior to people who enjoy fanservice and for actually thinking erotic content and porn are the same thing and ecchi only exists to sexually arouse people just like porn, in your head that is .
Last but not least https://www.grammarly.com/blog/commonly-confused-words/its-vs-its/
| @JoeChip Damn, you're so salty you go for desperate talk points about grammar, even though I try to correct every mistake I do through editing in good faith. Even so, it seems like I am doing a good job at exposing all the body pillow humpers who ruined this medium by endorsing the same gooner crap on and on! It's not my fault if you can get better but don't want to. At least, Vaseline sales keeps afloat thanks to losers like you ;) Start the hostilities and I'll leave you in shambles, bub. |
sorceryApr 29, 11:15 AM
Apr 29, 11:02 AM
#140
Reply to sorcery
@JoeChip
Damn, you're so salty you go for desperate talk points about grammar, even though I try to correct every mistake I do through editing in good faith.
Even so, it seems like I am doing a good job at exposing all the body pillow humpers who ruined this medium by endorsing the same gooner crap on and on! It's not my fault if you can get better but don't want to. At least, Vaseline sales keeps afloat thanks to losers like you ;)
Start the hostilities and I'll leave you in shambles, bub.
Damn, you're so salty you go for desperate talk points about grammar, even though I try to correct every mistake I do through editing in good faith.
Even so, it seems like I am doing a good job at exposing all the body pillow humpers who ruined this medium by endorsing the same gooner crap on and on! It's not my fault if you can get better but don't want to. At least, Vaseline sales keeps afloat thanks to losers like you ;)
Start the hostilities and I'll leave you in shambles, bub.
| @sorcery @Mako995 @anime-prime's Yeah, thread is out is control again at this point. Too many anti-fanservice people insulting and making threats to ecchi fans. I ping you since its urgent and to prevent escalation. |
ToumaTachibanaApr 29, 11:16 AM
| BANZAI NIPPON. Nippon is the Land of freedom. Nippon is the Land of Peace. Nippon is the Land of Justice and Prosperity. In Nippon, we trust. We love Nippon, we love Anime. Anime love us, Nippon love us. 日本 |
Apr 29, 11:20 AM
#141
Reply to zoomerReviewer
@MysteriousSquash women can never pearl clutch about minors when they glaze series about shipping minors together or with older men like hxh, jjk, haikyuu, black butler, jojo, aot, mha, and so on.
| @zoomerReviewer Minors being shipped with other minors is fine imo because they're age-appropriate. When it comes to minors being with older men, I also am not a fan of that but it's much worse to show minors in compromising positions. At the end of the day, fan service won't stop me from watching a good anime but a lot of anime would be much better without unnecessary fan service. Just say you like gooner content and keep it moving. |
Apr 29, 11:24 AM
#142
Reply to sorcery
@JoeChip
Damn, you're so salty you go for desperate talk points about grammar, even though I try to correct every mistake I do through editing in good faith.
Even so, it seems like I am doing a good job at exposing all the body pillow humpers who ruined this medium by endorsing the same gooner crap on and on! It's not my fault if you can get better but don't want to. At least, Vaseline sales keeps afloat thanks to losers like you ;)
Start the hostilities and I'll leave you in shambles, bub.
Damn, you're so salty you go for desperate talk points about grammar, even though I try to correct every mistake I do through editing in good faith.
Even so, it seems like I am doing a good job at exposing all the body pillow humpers who ruined this medium by endorsing the same gooner crap on and on! It's not my fault if you can get better but don't want to. At least, Vaseline sales keeps afloat thanks to losers like you ;)
Start the hostilities and I'll leave you in shambles, bub.
| @sorcery Oh look, a coping comeback as expected from a bitching edgelord with nothing smart to say, what a shock! Truth hurts, huh, my boy? Well, good for you being a smooth-brained edgelord whose IQ matches his shoe size, and therefore uses crappy grammar, is not a crime. |
Apr 29, 11:24 AM
#143
Reply to ToumaTachibana
@sorcery
@Mako995 @anime-prime's
Yeah, thread is out is control again at this point. Too many anti-fanservice people insulting and making threats to ecchi fans. I ping you since its urgent and to prevent escalation.
@Mako995 @anime-prime's
Yeah, thread is out is control again at this point. Too many anti-fanservice people insulting and making threats to ecchi fans. I ping you since its urgent and to prevent escalation.
| @Nurguburu OP wanted opinions, including ones from anti, so I provided my honest outlook. My post so far has been polite, as I swallow my frustration of getting rare bones to gnaw on thanks to the active lobbying of the likes of Joechip. Fans in the 2000s (I included) should have gatekept harder. Nothing will ever change my mind about it. |
sorceryApr 29, 11:46 AM
Apr 29, 11:32 AM
#144
Apr 29, 11:41 AM
#145
Reply to Lawgun
Fanservice this, fanservice that... But when it's about Chainsaw Man, Tengoku Daimakyou or Dandadan or some another modern edgy crap then everybody get absolutely blind instantly and the anime goes viral and popular not in spite of, but because of fanservice and tasteless vulgarity.
| @Lawgun Heavenly delusion flopped sorry |
Apr 29, 11:44 AM
#146
Reply to JoeChip
@sorcery
Oh look, a coping comeback as expected from a bitching edgelord with nothing smart to say, what a shock!
Truth hurts, huh, my boy?
Well, good for you being a smooth-brained edgelord whose IQ matches his shoe size, and therefore uses crappy grammar, is not a crime.
Oh look, a coping comeback as expected from a bitching edgelord with nothing smart to say, what a shock!
Truth hurts, huh, my boy?
Well, good for you being a smooth-brained edgelord whose IQ matches his shoe size, and therefore uses crappy grammar, is not a crime.
| @JoeChip Given your fav list, you are either a low rent troll or a poser pretending to have good taste, to feel better about yourself. Either way, you make a poor job at being any of these. Kudos, champion. You're a winner. Have fun gooning at lolis and hiding your insecurities. |
Apr 29, 11:48 AM
#147
Reply to sorcery
@Nurguburu
OP wanted opinions, including ones from anti, so I provided my honest outlook. My post so far has been polite, as I swallow my frustration of getting rare bones to gnaw on thanks to the active lobbying of the likes of Joechip.
Fans in the 2000s (I included) should have gatekept harder. Nothing will ever change my mind about it.
OP wanted opinions, including ones from anti, so I provided my honest outlook. My post so far has been polite, as I swallow my frustration of getting rare bones to gnaw on thanks to the active lobbying of the likes of Joechip.
Fans in the 2000s (I included) should have gatekept harder. Nothing will ever change my mind about it.
| @sorcery you falsely accused people who like fanservice of being pedophiles in your response to me, you call people who like fanservice of being "gooners" and "have low attention span as long as you don't take time to rub their nuts". Your posts were far from being polite. The fact they already told you fanservice (which YOU should know at this point) existed from decades mades me wonder if you even watched enough Anime to not known such things despite you are longer in the Anime community than me. You can be started being a "fan" in 2000s but your knowledge about Anime is limited by old stereotypes and low Anime watched which prevents you from having knowledge about other genres. It makes even less sense the ecchi genre was trending in the late 2000s/early 2010s and even more raunchy than now which you should know if you are a "fan" of Anime from the 2000s and your account was created in the early 2010s. |
ToumaTachibanaApr 29, 11:59 AM
| BANZAI NIPPON. Nippon is the Land of freedom. Nippon is the Land of Peace. Nippon is the Land of Justice and Prosperity. In Nippon, we trust. We love Nippon, we love Anime. Anime love us, Nippon love us. 日本 |
Apr 29, 12:04 PM
#148
Reply to ToumaTachibana
@sorcery you falsely accused people who like fanservice of being pedophiles in your response to me, you call people who like fanservice of being "gooners" and "have low attention span as long as you don't take time to rub their nuts". Your posts were far from being polite.
The fact they already told you fanservice (which YOU should know at this point) existed from decades mades me wonder if you even watched enough Anime to not known such things despite you are longer in the Anime community than me. You can be started being a "fan" in 2000s but your knowledge about Anime is limited by old stereotypes and low Anime watched which prevents you from having knowledge about other genres. It makes even less sense the ecchi genre was trending in the late 2000s/early 2010s and even more raunchy than now which you should know if you are a "fan" of Anime from the 2000s and your account was created in the early 2010s.
The fact they already told you fanservice (which YOU should know at this point) existed from decades mades me wonder if you even watched enough Anime to not known such things despite you are longer in the Anime community than me. You can be started being a "fan" in 2000s but your knowledge about Anime is limited by old stereotypes and low Anime watched which prevents you from having knowledge about other genres. It makes even less sense the ecchi genre was trending in the late 2000s/early 2010s and even more raunchy than now which you should know if you are a "fan" of Anime from the 2000s and your account was created in the early 2010s.
| @Nurguburu It is not false. I state a matter of fact. You all, have weird fascination for infant looking cartoon characters being staged in a more or less sexual way. Chara-designers draw them this way on purpose for YOU. I am not saying it makes you a pedo, I am saying it makes you a CLOSET pedo. That's the nuance. You're too much of a coward to be full fledged pedophile, so you live the dream by proxy. The truth remains and hurts, you can cope as much as you want and hide behind your relativist excuses. Given the reaction I am getting in this forum topic, it seems like I am hitting right in the bulls eyes. The fact they already told you fanservice (which YOU should know at this point) existed from decades mades me wonder if you even watched enough Anime to not known such things despite you are longer in the Anime community than me. Seems like somebody got my point flying waaaay above their head. Or you are strawmaning hard to defend your fondness for it. My point is that I have always considered ecchi relief as a plague, retro anime or not. It gets in the way of good storytelling and subtract earnest execution. It is detrimental in any way. Unless it is not disruptive, like fanservice embedded in the action scene or the outfit a female character happens to wear, for example. |
sorceryApr 29, 12:07 PM
Apr 29, 12:13 PM
#149
Hol shit I just took a nap in my bath, wasn't expecting to come back and find a fucking warzone >.> |
Prophetess of the Golden Era |
Apr 29, 12:14 PM
#150
Reply to Deathko
@TheBlockernator If that's a jab at my love for 80s anime comedies, this is actually wrong. Women don't exist purely to get naked in City Hunter, Golden Boy, or GTO. City Hunter is, in fact, 100% tits/pantyshot free. Women are powerful in these shows, and aren't objectified by the author. When the character tries to objectify them it's portrayed as the behavior of a creep and loser.
And those comedies are supposed to be raunchy. Nobody ever complained about Prison School being naughty, people complain about this shit:

happening every 3 minutes in your random non-naughty shonen.
And those comedies are supposed to be raunchy. Nobody ever complained about Prison School being naughty, people complain about this shit:
happening every 3 minutes in your random non-naughty shonen.
| @Deathko Does sexual content in non-explicit genred works really draw consumers in.. Or rather, draw them away.. The last show he worked on was a ratings disaster.. The one before it did so poorly that Netflix dropped it after one season.. I don't know about @Mako995 specifically, but the MAL moderator team tends to have a pro (pedo)sexual bias in general.. Some users have accused the moderators of censoring their posts and even suspending them for having a critical view on lolicon/shotacon content.. |
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